Here is a download for the 5.0.2 soak test from Motorola for XT1053 devices. I have not tried this yet, I received this from a friend who reported it successfully working on his device.
I do not take responsibility if this file bricks, destroys, or sets fire to your phone. Use this at your own risk. I have not tested this file, therefore I cannot confirm that it works.
If you do venture to try this, please report back.
[Someone has already posted this on the other thread, removed]
[MOD EDIT:]SHAME SHAME SHAME. Signing an NDA means you're agreeing to not share details of the special program you are in.
This has been removed at the request of Motorola due to your negligence in violating the terms of your agreement.
[DARKTERMIT EDIT:]I'm not signed NDA
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i smell this
habusho said:
i smell this
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It's likely coming. But at least I'm not breaking the NDA, my friend is. Probably won't matter. I'm getting it out while I can.
Bigluc said:
It's likely coming. But at least I'm not breaking the NDA, my friend is. Probably won't matter. I'm getting it out while I can.
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Nothing good will come out of this, please remove it. The ones installing this will likely have issues further updating.
Just wait a few more days (after 4 months a few days seem like nothing).
alexferdean said:
Nothing good will come out of this, please remove it. The ones installing this will likely have issues further updating.
Just wait a few more days (after 4 months a few days seem like nothing).
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how exactly is patching a factory zip update complicating future updates?
DrDecoy said:
how exactly is patching a factory zip update complicating future updates?
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The OTA updates, including soak/beta or whatever you want to call pre-release received via the Moto Feedback Network, and those pushed by the carriers, have pre-flash validation checks in them.
They check for certain things in build.prop, particular files (and checks their hash/check sum), etc. IF your phone doesn't match, the OTA wont install. In addition, with the OTA's and these leaked ZIPs including updates to GPT.BIN and the bootloader, and history showing how easy it is to brick trying to downgrade when those are involved, that could complicate trying to get back on track should Moto or the Carriers push something else out.
A while back, I think it was the Droid X, there were leaked updates, people were flashing them, they were not meant to be released and the people who installed them got STUCK unable to update for a while. It was a while ago, so my memory is fuzzy, but a process was finally found, but it took a while, and a few updates, to bring those people back in line. And it was a little more difficult due to locked bootloaders.
So practicing a little caution is a good thing.
Bigluc said:
It's likely coming. But at least I'm not breaking the NDA, my friend is. Probably won't matter. I'm getting it out while I can.
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Nice way to justify leaking stolen software. Always amusing to see wanna-be devs pirating someone else's work and somehow justifying it to themselves.
KidJoe,
One person can update his bootloader, others supplied with system partition backups don't have to. Deployed Android doesn't require updated motoboot, or secure things. You know what I mean...
But hey, it's illegal, firstly. And secondly, let's not spoil Motorola good intentions to bring us the latest Android, and quickly. Sooon )
Can you post a link to the new post with the file?
s5610 said:
KidJoe,
One person can update his bootloader, others supplied with system partition backups don't have to. Deployed Android doesn't require updated motoboot, or secure things. You know what I mean...
But hey, it's illegal, firstly. And secondly, let's not spoil Motorola good intentions to bring us the latest Android, and quickly. Sooon )
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Quickly is not the right word when it has being months of LP being out.
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Quickly is not the right word when it has being months of LP being out.
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I'm with Motorola on this one.
You should see s4 after lollipop update.
The battery gives Hardly 1 hour of screen time.
It has rendered the phone unusable.
At least we are getting a reasonably stable update.
Also getting features from new flagship.
Who does that
DrDecoy said:
how exactly is patching a factory zip update complicating future updates?
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Besides other things the bootloader gets updated. It's not so easy to go back to 4.4.4.
s5610 said:
KidJoe,
One person can update his bootloader, others supplied with system partition backups don't have to. Deployed Android doesn't require updated motoboot, or secure things. You know what I mean...
But hey, it's illegal, firstly. And secondly, let's not spoil Motorola good intentions to bring us the latest Android, and quickly. Sooon )
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Actaully, based on history with the 2013 X...
That doesn't always work right. i.e. When it was found that 4.4.2 broke MotoWpNoMo and SlapMyMoto, some tried upgrading by flashing only PARTS of the 4.4.2 rom (so they could roll back).. They ran into features not working, like App Drawer -> Settings -> Security.
We've seen other issues arise when partially flashing too, but they were a while back so my memory is a little fuzzy on the specific details.
I flashed it days ago.... My phone is fine
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I flashed it days ago.... My phone is fine
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Quick question are you on T-Mobile. Do you have the 4g LTE or just 4g on the status bar?
sorullo_xgrx said:
Quick question are you on T-Mobile. Do you have the 4g LTE or just 4g on the status bar?
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I'm on T-Mobile with the xt1053 and no I do not have the LTE signal BUT I do have LTE when looking in phone settings... I've heard everyone saying the same thing
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I'm on T-Mobile with the xt1053 and no I do not have the LTE signal BUT I do have LTE when looking in phone settings... I've heard everyone saying the same thing
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Yeah same here, I wonder if moto remove the LTE on lollipop but since is just a soak test it not yet implemented , thanks
So are you thinking that after the soak test we will get another update?
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My nexus 5 has it don't know why they wouldn't have it in the moto..I guess it really doesn't bother me as much as not having 5.0
sorullo_xgrx said:
Quick question are you on T-Mobile. Do you have the 4g LTE or just 4g on the status bar?
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I have TMo and the XT1053 and I'm only showing 4G but with LTE speeds. I saw a screenshot on here of someone with what appears to be a special T-Mobile build of the Lollipop soak test with LTE in the signal bars though.
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I have TMo and the XT1053 and I'm only showing 4G but with LTE speeds. I saw a screenshot on here of someone with what appears to be a special T-Mobile build of the Lollipop soak test with LTE in the signal bars though.
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Probably the actual update and not the first soak test that went live a week ago...
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Man I hate the day lenovo bought motorola, it just felt updates were not gonna be the same.
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If the build date of the leaks wasn't enough proof that Motorola is very busy working on Kit Kat, let this be further proof:
http://www.androidcentral.com/moto-x-get-android-44-kitkat-matter-weeks
Needless to say, I am impressed.
I hope so, im in pain seeing users here from AT&T enjoying their 4.4.
And then Verizon "tests" it for next 9 months.
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I hope so, im in pain seeing users here from AT&T enjoying their 4.4.
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I'm talking more on Motorola's end. This is quite admirable what they're doing.
Obviously, the carriers will **** around like they always do. But that's not Motorola's fault really.
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I'm talking more on Motorola's end. This is quite admirable what they're doing.
Obviously, the carriers will **** around like they always do. But that's not Motorola's fault really.
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I never understood why the carriers didn't have an opt-in program to get updates ASAP that essentially cut off your customer service if you opted in. Here, you can do it, but no, we won't help you. Its a flag on your account, so anywhere you go they'll see it and know not to help you. Their point is that they don't want to help people on 'untested' updates... fine then, don't help them. But this would be a HUGE PR boon for whatever carrier does it.
This is good news! Hopefully Verizon won't be too far behind. Maybe a couple weeks like the camera update.
Verizon soak test emails are being sent out
Yup I can confirm i just got an email for the vzw soak test
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seanrobot said:
Yup I can confirm i just got an email for the vzw soak test
Sent from my XT1060 using Tapatalk
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Accidental thanks Dumb question ahead, but whats a soak test?
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Accidental thanks Dumb question ahead, but whats a soak test?
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It's basically an opt-in staged roll out. If you register, you have the ability to be the first to receive an update... so there's a sizeable pool for motorola to determine if there are any major bugs before giving it to the masses. Typically, these things happen and everyone else gets the update about a week later.
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Accidental thanks Dumb question ahead, but whats a soak test?
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A soak test is where a group of people are chosen to do a sort of private beta test on the firmware, to make sure things don't assplode or catch fire before the software is rolled out to everyone.
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It's basically an opt-in staged roll out. If you register, you have the ability to be the first to receive an update... so there's a sizeable pool for motorola to determine if there are any major bugs before giving it to the masses. Typically, these things happen and everyone else gets the update about a week later.
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A soak test is where a group of people are chosen to do a sort of private beta test on the firmware, to make sure things don't assplode or catch fire before the software is rolled out to everyone.
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I see! Funny name though
xpc21 said:
A soak test is where a group of people are chosen to do a sort of private beta test on the firmware, to make sure things don't assplode or catch fire before the software is rolled out to everyone.
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such original wording!
http://www.androidcentral.com/verizon-moto-x-soak-test-invites-going-out-again
Hadn't registered my X for MFN since i just got it Friday. I went in now and registered. We'll see if I get an invite
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Hadn't registered my X for MFN since i just got it Friday. I went in now and registered. We'll see if I get an invite
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What's MFN?
br0nx finest said:
What's MFN?
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It is mototora forum page.
br0nx finest said:
What's MFN?
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Motorola feedback network.
https://forums.motorola.com/posts/77d4221775
You need to do it if you want to have a chance at being invited for soak.
Verizon guys are already getting soak tests and us Dev Edition owners have nothing. Weird.
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I never understood why the carriers didn't have an opt-in program to get updates ASAP that essentially cut off your customer service if you opted in. Here, you can do it, but no, we won't help you. Its a flag on your account, so anywhere you go they'll see it and know not to help you. Their point is that they don't want to help people on 'untested' updates... fine then, don't help them. But this would be a HUGE PR boon for whatever carrier does it.
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It's probably because to most people updates are not something they think about. The people that unsupported updates would appeal to are probably very small and at least to the carriers probably seems more complicated to have more programs rather than less.
The other concern of theirs isn't support. It's about their network. Verizon is really strict about how their network can be used and that's a big part of the reason that ATT got the iPhone for years before verizon. They want absolute control over how the network is used probably due to a fear of a small number of devices clogging up bandwidth.
The funny thing is in spite of the rules bootloaders get unlocked. Phones get rooted. ROMs get flashed and it doesn't seem to cause many apparent problems.
Edit: and I'll just add that most carrier support is clueless anyway - most answers are
-reset your phone
-delete all of your apps.
-do something you already tried.
I hope 4.4 kit kat won't affect Moto X's good battery life.
I was talking to live chat with Motorola support and managed to get connected to an employee who seemed to not care that the chat session was monitored.
I was asking about general stuff related to my battery and the Turbo. Towards the end of the chat I figured this guy might have some kind of idea whats going on in the company that he works for. So I asked about the release date for 5.0.
He answered very enthusiastically and hinted that Motorola is ready to release the update and that the only thing next on their list is to select an official Advert with Verizon. From the sound of it - we will not be experiencing the usual delay that Verizon has created for updates. Expect Lollipop on your Droid Turbo by December 1st.
Me personally. I'm waiting for root and boot unlock. But for all of you happy with Lollipop the wait is not too long.
Lets see if this all plays true come December 1st.
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I was talking to live chat with Motorola support and managed to get connected to an employee who seemed to not care that the chat session was monitored.
I was asking about general stuff related to my battery and the Turbo. Towards the end of the chat I figured this guy might have some kind of idea whats going on in the company that he works for. So I asked about the release date for 5.0.
He answered very enthusiastically and hinted that Motorola is ready to release the update and that the only thing next on their list is to select an official Advert with Verizon. From the sound of it - we will not be experiencing the usual delay that Verizon has created for updates. Expect Lollipop on your Droid Turbo by December 1st.
Me personally. I'm waiting for root and boot unlock. But for all of you happy with Lollipop the wait is not too long.
Lets see if this all plays true come December 1st.
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Thanks for the heads up. I thought it would be fast but not that fast. I figured they pretty much wanted it to run 5.0 very soon after launch.
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Thanks for the heads up. I thought it would be fast but not that fast. I figured they pretty much wanted it to run 5.0 very soon after launch.
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It looks like Motorola wont be putting too much effort into rolling out updates for kitkat, instead it appears all the fixes and issues will be done through lollipop. Its all just perspective. Ive been told things like this before...
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It looks like Motorola wont be putting too much effort into rolling out updates for kitkat, instead it appears all the fixes and issues will be done through lollipop. Its all just perspective. Ive been told things like this before...
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I was hoping the very few minimal complaints I have with this phone will be fixed in lollipop. Camera for example. That lag!
Lollipop schmollipop...
First things first:
Where's Advanced Calling with VoLTE?
I need my mobile data while talking!
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Lollipop schmollipop...
First things first:
Where's Advanced Calling with VoLTE?
I need my mobile data while talking!
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That's on Verizon lol it is so irritating though. I'm trying to remain optimistic because I really like the phone. People keep bashing it comparing it to rooted phones that have been debloated, greenified and tweaked.
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Lollipop schmollipop...
First things first:
Where's Advanced Calling with VoLTE?
I need my mobile data while talking!
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Could not agree more
Actually, I wouldnt update to lollipop for a while anyhow in hopes of holding out for roooooot
How many phones have not been rooted? In my personal experience every phone I've ever owned has eventually gotten root.
G1 (HTC dream)
HTC mytouch slide
Thunderbolt
Galaxy s4
I know there's probably a bunch of phones that haven't been rooted but are there any phones with high demand for root that have not been rooted?
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OTA's are rolled out by carriers not OEM's so I take this news as a grain of salt. If it was a Verizon Rep then I would be souped.
Maybe going to Lollipop can help with root? http://www.androidauthority.com/nexus-9-root-chainfire-564138/
I know it has different specs, but just maybe...
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OTA's are rolled out by carriers not OEM's so I take this news as a grain of salt. If it was a Verizon Rep then I would be souped.
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I feel the same way. Verizon is the ultimate decision maker which is why it makes sense that the Motorola rep said "waiting on Verizon to pick an advertisement" advertisements announce dates... So on so forth. Even if I have to wait it's okay because
I've got all. the. time. in. the. woorlddd. Don't you want some of ittt?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5I1tEfPbC9c
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It would make sense for volte to be part of L. Why send two turbo otas when you can send one. But no one asks my opinion.
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Maybe going to Lollipop can help with root? http://www.androidauthority.com/nexus-9-root-chainfire-564138/
I know it has different specs, but just maybe...
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Oh hey @my2cents…look at us both over here from the spyder threads haha.
From what I've heard, root will be nearly impossible without unlocked bootloader on lollipop. Sadly, I'm not getting my hopes up for Turbo root on 5.0 unless we get bootloaders unlocked...again, seems unlikely
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Just read this so maybe we won't get lollipop by dec 1.
http://www.androidheadlines.com/2014/11/android-lollipop-rollout-may-delayed-due-battery-bug.html
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Just read this so maybe we won't get lollipop by dec 1.
http://www.androidheadlines.com/2014/11/android-lollipop-rollout-may-delayed-due-battery-bug.html
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they fixed it already
http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/1...ght-be-on-hold-because-of-a-serious-wifi-bug/
Restola said:
It would make sense for volte to be part of L. Why send two turbo otas when you can send one. But no one asks my opinion.
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That's what they're supposed to do.
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Oh hey @my2cents…look at us both over here from the spyder threads haha.
From what I've heard, root will be nearly impossible without unlocked bootloader on lollipop. Sadly, I'm not getting my hopes up for Turbo root on 5.0 unless we get bootloaders unlocked...again, seems unlikely
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Yeah, with JCase saying that Sunshine V3.0 can't support Motorola on 4.4.4, and the secure kernel crap that will block root on Lollipop, I think this phone will stay stock unless a Chinese middleman pops up again or something.
Guys just realize you can kiss any hope of an unlock and root exploit goodbye if you update. It's going to suck; either choose unlock or 5.0
I pretty much left root behind when I got the Turbo. Moved to the share plan so I don't need the hotspot hack. I used TiBu a lot moving from phone to phone and ROM to ROM but I really didn't have much data that I had to have. Mostly when I was listening to back catalogs of Podcasts I would want to restore the app I was using so it kept my place. Now I have moved on to something different. And I did lose some game data but it was stupid stuff like Temple Run and Monsters Ate My Condo, nothing like an RPG or something. And really thats what root did for me. I am ready for 5.0.
I also think that the 5.0 update will have VoLTE. Maybe they got Google to roll it into 5.0 so instead of hitting each device individually with a VoLTE update, if they get 5.0 they will also get VoLTE (and it brings the Nexus 6 on VoLTE faster as well).
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Guys just realize you can kiss any hope of an unlock and root exploit goodbye if you update. It's going to suck; either choose unlock or 5.0
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What are you basing this on?
rlb81 said:
What are you basing this on?
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Chainfires detailed post on how root will more than likely (read; definitely) going to need a custom kernel to work. Kernel flashes need an unlocked bootloader. 5.0 comes with even more selinux restrictions which make any kind of exploitation harder. All in all, 5.0 is way more locked down and harder to unlock. Simply getting a root exploit without unlock is not likely
See here:
https://plus.google.com/107679240815941684447/posts/SRbzCoSW9JX
More:
https://twitter.com/RDR0b11/status/605828513220816896
For the ones who are lazy in reading comments, this is the reason that this guy gives for the delay:
"Verizon delays on latest smartphones are due to Nationwide HD Voice. We want to make sure Software updates for HD Voice service is acceptable and does not impact voice quality. Verizon is the only company that has nationwide HD Voice in the USA. AT&T just has most metro cities here and there. T-Mobile and Sprint are way behind"
:good:
P.D. Maybe now is the time for the Maxx's users to complain about not getting 5.1 as well as the Turbo.
Doesn't the iPhone 6 have HD Voice already? I wonder why they didn't need to delay its release by months so they can test it.
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Doesn't the iPhone 6 have HD Voice already? I wonder why they didn't need to delay its release by months so they can test it.
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From the same guy:
AC 1.0 is not just network related. The unique situation Verizon finds itself is having its original CDMA voice network.. Hard for us to dance around between LTE and CDMA to support VoLTE due to best signal strength in different environments. So with each device update, there is usually a few Qualcomm patches to improve that transition and try to cover all possible calling scenarios our customers may face in our network. And also supporting XLTE new bands. Some device updates turn on a new LTE band on a phone that might have been dormant in an earlier software build.
And Qualcomm is not perfect, so some times when they improve on thing, they break another. So my job and many others in Verizon is to double check all software changes our devices take in... Hence the delay
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Mid Jun is 25 days away! Start your counters
Saw this, and was just about to post it, but you beat me to the punch!
I'm glad that its coming soon and that Verizon is finally communicating with us.
Sent from my soon-to-have-5.1 XT1254
Edit: I attached a an imgur link of the photo that Jose Arturo posted of the XT1254 running 5.1
http://i.imgur.com/TvVGuiY.jpg
jake7405 said:
Saw this, and was just about to post it, but you beat me to the punch!
I'm glad that its coming soon and that Verizon is finally communicating with us.
Sent from my soon-to-have-5.1 XT1254
Edit: I attached a an imgur link of the photo that Jose Arturo posted of the XT1254 running 5.1
http://i.imgur.com/TvVGuiY.jpg
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Huh looks like Kit Kat in the status bar. If that's the case, I'll stay on 4.4.4
i like that guy, its better explaining this than staying in the dark:
J.A. Post on Google+ said:
is not just network related. The unique situation Verizon finds itself is having its original CDMA voice network.. Hard for us to dance around between LTE and CDMA to support VoLTE due to best signal strength in different environments. So with each device update, there is usually a few Qualcomm patches to improve that transition and try to cover all possible calling scenarios our customers may face in our network. And also supporting XLTE new bands. Some device updates turn on a new LTE band on a phone that might have been dormant in an earlier software build.
And Qualcomm is not perfect, so some times when they improve on thing, they break another. So my job and many others in Verizon is to double check all software changes our devices take in... Hence the delay
Motorola is small potatoes on budget compared to Samsung and Apple. Delays are usually due to funding for test verifications on new device software.
Jeeze, I should just shut up... Bye everyone
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hmmmm. choices.............. Stay on root, or take the update........................
OR wait for rooted update!!!!
Patience........... patience...............
Or take the OTA, then root again.
Yeah he is right take update and then root. King root can root up to 5.1.1
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Yeah he is right take update and then root. King root can root up to 5.1.1
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Can Kingroot root the Droid Turbo? And if so, does it disable write protection?
Yes to the first and no to the second, there is a thread on it on the first page with lots of info.
Cases
Thank you very much, I could not find quality phone cases for our
JulesJam said:
Can Kingroot root the Droid Turbo? And if so, does it disable write protection?
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Guess I need to check out kingroot thread again - it didn't seem to be as baked as the current system / images root method.
Jaocagomez said:
Mid Jun is 25 days away! Start your counters
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Take "mid-June" with a grain of salt.
All that means is it probably won't come BEFORE then.
Note the Google + post has been deleted which was referenced in the op. So, actually there is no date promise anymore...
Yeah, there's a lot of built up anger towards Motorola and Verizon (should be directed towards Verizon), so any engineers/spokespeople who publicly post even good news at this point will get lots of backlash for broken promises, lack of past communication -- and rightly so. They need to learn from this instead of running away from it.
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Yes to the first and no to the second, there is a thread on it on the first page with lots of info.
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Got a link to the thread? Can't seem to find it.
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Got a link to the thread? Can't seem to find it.
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"Sorry followers... I got in trouble for Turbo announcement... Need to keep my mouth shut from now on... Enjoy Verizon services and our great devices. "
Nexus 6 is near identical internals.
VoLTE works fine sans camera and I'm certain that is software related.
So I'd take the VoLTE cause for the hold up with a grain of salt too. Especially since Verizon was so willing to ship it last year when it was clearly broken and would have shown in testing.
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I was asking about the Kingroot for Droid Turbo.
Android central say there is an update of 174 MB. Did any user got it ?
bikrame said:
Android central say there is an update of 174 MB. Did any user got it ?
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Android Central hmzzz don't believe everything they are saying.
They also said you loose image quality /features in the camera if you unlock the bootloader which isn't true.
Notice any differences in how it operates? No notice of any available update on my device as of yet...
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Android Central hmzzz don't believe everything they are saying.
They also said you loose image quality /features in the camera if you unlock the bootloader which isn't true.
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The update is happening...MicroMod777 on the "Disable OTA" thread got it this morning...
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Android Central hmzzz don't believe everything they are saying.
They also said you loose image quality /features in the camera if you unlock the bootloader which isn't true.
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Some users on their forum also says that. ATT got it 2 days before and we are getting it to.
I hope they move dual window back to back button. Thats all i need.
I have a H815. So i don't think I will receive an update then
https://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-22421
Pretty sure its true, but ATT's was only like 25mb
What I don't understand as an EU G4 user.
Why does T-mobile provide an update? Is it an update on their software? Or is LG involved?
Are there specific T-mobile apps on it?
I got the update this morning. To answer a couple of questions: No, no new apps. Dual window is still in the same place.
I dont notice anything right offhand different, but I havent done much with my phone yet this morning. Heres a capture of my info:
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Android Central hmzzz don't believe everything they are saying.
They also said you loose image quality /features in the camera if you unlock the bootloader which isn't true.
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You're kidding - I always thought they knew what they were talking about. Where did they say that?
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What I don't understand as an EU G4 user.
Why does T-mobile provide an update? Is it an update on their software? Or is LG involved?
Are there specific T-mobile apps on it?
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T-Mobile (as well as most carriers) ship out the updates after they've approved the changes. I would imagine this is to ensure that nothing being updated will affected their carrier's included Spam (I mean added software) or network connectivity. Last thing they want is their stores or customer service lines inundated with "help! The update broke my cellular connection!" claims.
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blackangst said:
I got the update this morning. To answer a couple of questions: No, no new apps. Dual window is still in the same place.
I dont notice anything right offhand different, but I havent done much with my phone yet this morning. Heres a capture of my info:
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If you do notice anything of real substance, please post it so that we can know. For now, I think I will avoid connecting to WiFi until I know what this update actually does. I've never been a fan of generic changelogs...
But then it's a little bit strange that the international version. Hasn't got the update.
So you could assume it has to do with their spam apps.
Maybe it fixes the touchscreen issue. I haven't gotten an update yet, and I've switched back to my S5 for now.
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But then it's a little bit strange that the international version. Hasn't got the update.
So you could assume it has to do with their spam apps.
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Could have to do with any number of kernel/lib/framework related items specific to carrier. Could be cellular radio related, WiFi related (wifi calling has been weird on my phone...doesn't want to seem to connect but I have awesome reception where I live, so I don't need it), etc...
Has your version had any updates in last week or two? If so, it might just be that the carriers are just now approving that update and pushing out to the devices.
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You're kidding - I always thought they knew what they were talking about. Where did they say that?
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That is true for certain phones. Like the Sony phones.
Sweet. Pretty quick imo. Look forward to seeing if it fixes some small issues I've been having (touch/tap misses and knock settings). I know knock settings are a longshot, but it would be nice to be able to configure them to each persons liking. I'd love to be able to turn off the "drag one finger down to quick view the clock/status"
I got my update overnight.
Phone updated without any warning or notice when I woke up this morning. CHecked the software version and it was the new one.
I havent noticed any differences as of yet.
Actually I just looked at my phone and already running version h I wonder if from the factory there were two different images
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Th3Bill said:
Could have to do with any number of kernel/lib/framework related items specific to carrier. Could be cellular radio related, WiFi related (wifi calling has been weird on my phone...doesn't want to seem to connect but I have awesome reception where I live, so I don't need it), etc...
Has your version had any updates in last week or two? If so, it might just be that the carriers are just now approving that update and pushing out to the devices.
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No I haven't got any updates on my version (H815).
Got the update and my phone starting shaking and jumping around on my desk. When the update was complete it turned into a Galaxy S6
Since they are already working on root and unlock I wouldn't take the ota just yet. Ive got a replacement on the way so once I get the update I'll take it on the one I'm returning and see if any changes. Ill also do a system dump on the new version too if necessary.
Can someone please confirm that you received this Nougat update from Motorola, for this model ( XT1607 )
kurdacrunch said:
Can someone please confirm that you received this update from Motorola, for this model ( XT1607 )
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Err...what update?
Davey126 said:
Err...what update?
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Sorry I didn't specify, thought it was obvious that I am taking about the update to nougat. My bad...
kurdacrunch said:
Sorry I didn't specify, thought it was obvious that I am taking about the update to nougat. My bad...
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I never received an OTA update notification on two XT1607s (US). Not that it would have done any good as both are bootloader unlocked with a custom recovery (stock recovery and an untouched system partition are two of many prerequisites required to process OTAs). Eventually updated both via TWRP flashable build from this thread. Worked a treat. Encourage reading posts from March 1st forward before deciding your path. Good luck.
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Can someone please confirm that you received this Nougat update from Motorola, for this model ( XT1607 )
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Spouse's US retail xt1607 is factory stock, boot loader still locked, etc. I hasn't received Nougat yet.
n76 said:
Spouse's US retail xt1607 is factory stock, boot loader still locked, etc. I hasn't received Nougat yet.
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Me neither and the bootloader is locked, stock firmware, and never rooted, damn...
Thank you.
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Me neither and the bootloader is locked, stock firmware, and never rooted, damn...
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Speculation: Moto isn't pushing updates to XT1607s (why would they) leaving the decision to carriers who could care less about unbranded G4P variants. At some point you will probably have to unlock the bootloader and apply updates manually.
Note this does NOT require replacing stock recovery as booting TWRP will get the job done. Or install directly from fastboot (harder with no benefit IMHO).
Davey126 said:
Speculation: Moto isn't pushing updates to XT1607s (why would they) leaving the decision to carriers who could care less about unbranded G4P variants. At some point you will probably have to unlock the bootloader and apply updates manually.
Note this does NOT require replacing stock recovery as booting TWRP will get the job done. Or install directly from fastboot (harder with no benefit IMHO).
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My main concern is to use a rom that may be potentially dangerous. Still I guess I'll have to do it in the future. Also, I think Moto should have a desktop app so the people can update it painless, but anyway, I agree with you.
Thank you to all of you, you were great.
Thumbs up for the community!
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My main concern is to use a rom that may be potentially dangerous. Still I guess I'll have to do it in the future. Also, I think Moto should have a desktop app so the people can update it painless, but anyway, I agree with you.
Thank you to all of you, you were great.
Thumbs up for the community!
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Thanks for the kind words.
I wouldn't be too concerned with stock Marshmallow. Overall security profile will be slightly diminished but can be effectively offset through good hygiene: avoid extensive use of public WiFi, surf responsibly, careful with clicks, don't download 'crapware', only use trusted stores, etc. Google Play Services also offers a layer of protection that remains current regardless of ROM status.
Still, should you be worried given all the media drama about the latest exploit impacting tens of millions of devices? Depends on behaviors that are entirely within your control. I sleep well at night regardless of patch status on my varied devices. Update when it is convenient and for refinements in Nougat that may improve your overall productivity and enjoyment.
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Thanks for the kind words.
I wouldn't be too concerned with stock Marshmallow. Overall security profile will be slightly diminished but can be effectively offset through good hygiene: avoid extensive use of public WiFi, surf responsibly, careful with clicks, don't download 'crapware', only use trusted stores, etc. Google Play Services also offers a layer of protection that remains current regardless of ROM status.
Still, should you be worried given all the media drama about the latest exploit impacting tens of millions of devices? Depends on behaviors that are entirely within your control. I sleep well at night regardless of patch status on my varied devices. Update when it is convenient and for refinements in Nougat that may improve your overall productivity and enjoyment.
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Agree, but what I am afraid is how this rom is really untouched. Is there a safe download somewhere?
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Agree, but what I am afraid is how this rom is really untouched. Is there a safe download somewhere?
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Provided link in a previous post (few days back).
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Provided link in a previous post (few days back).
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Thank you!
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Provided link in a previous post (few days back).
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Sorry to bother you again, but I have some doubts, I did check out the link, the date of this have more than a year, are you sure this is not the soak test?
Also I would like to keep my phone as pristine as possible, and I have a while since I am not messing with roms, my question is what do I need to make this work?
PD: Using the console is not an issue
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Sorry to bother you again, but I have some doubts, I did check out the link, the date of this have more than a year, are you sure this is not the soak test?
Also I would like to keep my phone as pristine as possible, and I have a while since I am not messing with roms, my question is what do I need to make this work?
PD: Using the console is not an issue
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Lastest upload is from a few months back (NPI26.48.36) and yields the Nov 1st 2017 patch level. Unfortunately, OP does not exercise any form of formal change control; you'd have to read through the thread to know there were updates. On that note you can read through this thread again and the linked thread (especially from March 1st forward) to gain confidence the upload is legit.
Bigger issue is getting over the pristine hurdle. You will need to unlock the bootloader which immediately voids the warranty and yields an ugly boot screen (which can be remedied). You'll then need to learn TWRP which isn't difficult but not geared toward the average Facebook user. You probably will NOT have to root either the old or new ROM. If any of that feels significantly uncomfortable then the wiser path may status-quo. There are tens of millions of mobiles running Lollipop, KitKat and older ROMs that date back three or more years. The version of Android on you two G4Ps isn't nearly as outdated as you might think.
Davey126 said:
Lastest upload is from a few months back (NPI26.48.36) and yields the Nov 1st 2017 patch level. Unfortunately, OP does not exercise any form of formal change control; you'd have to read through the thread to know there were updates. On that note you can read through this thread again and the linked thread (especially from March 1st forward) to gain confidence the upload is legit.
Bigger issue is getting over the pristine hurdle. You will need to unlock the bootloader which immediately voids the warranty and yields an ugly boot screen (which can be remedied). You'll then need to learn TWRP which isn't difficult but not geared toward the average Facebook user. You probably will NOT have to root either the old or new ROM. If any of that feels significantly uncomfortable then the wiser path may status-quo. There are tens of millions of mobiles running Lollipop, KitKat and older ROMs that date back three or more years. The version of Android on you two G4Ps isn't nearly as outdated as you might think.
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Thanks again, can't see any reason to rush myself into nougat, anyway is a matter of development and marketing; that we'll see more candies in the near future (not for this smartphone) it's kinda sad we are obliged to buy a new smartphone if you want the security patches, even if it's a very expensive one, but even worse is the incompetence of Lenovo sharing an update through OTA.