Note 4 and Android Wear device - battery drain, experience? - Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

So I've recently bought a Android Wear device - LG G Watch R.
Quite expectedly I've encountered a problem which seems to bother me a lot - battery drain.
In order for Android Wear device to work properly it needs Google App to be enabled on the phone. Unfortunately it needs Google Now as well ;/
I've disable everything which can be disabled or stopped - location, history, some-automatic-bs. Judging by PC Wakelock Detector the most usage is for com.android.google.gsf and com.android.google.quicksearchbox
Now I see a lot faster battery drain and a lot of wakes in the battery usage.
Someone else using Android Wear to share some knowledge?

I also have LG G Watch R.
Battery drain is noticeable but it is expected. Watch and phone are permanently connected by bluetooth and some services running.
But, battery stay one day without any problems and I always charge the phone every night so thats don't bother me at all.
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I have also noticed this as well, mine seems to have the Android OS as a source of wakelocks, not sure what though. Sometimes I have the Android OS with around 2hr+ of awake time.

Is it the same with all smart watches? I was thinking of getting one of the Samsung ones but not sure which one yet.

I think it's to do with bluetooth being on all the time rather than the type of watch.

I have a first generation Samsung Gear (a.k.a. Galaxy Gear) now with Tizen OS and theres no notice of any significant difference in battery use.
I like LG and Motorolla watches but they work with Google Now and in Portugal there is no use to the app and i remember on my Xperia S Google Now drain my battery in few hours! Since my Note 3 and now Note 4 i allways have that App desable.

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Battery Life Since 4.4.2

I only had mine a week or so before the upgrade, but I would say it's definitely taken a hit. Now, screen is not always the biggest power consumer like it used to be. Android OS and Android System are taking a much bigger portion of the power than they used to. I always reboot the phone if something other than screen is monopolizing the battery.
Also, I heard there's a Qualcomm-specific bug related to powering the cameras, and that it's been a particular issue with the latest Skype builds.
I worry that they'll fix these issues quickly in the Android project but it'll take months for me to see the fix from Verizon, by which point my battery will have been subjected a lot of unnecessary heat and wear.
Tonnes of android os talk in this thread. Or try Googling it.
Basically, the more services you have on and apps syncing, the higher it gets. For experimentation .....disable sync, location, Google now and Amy other service you can find, and usually android os goes way down. Decide what's important to you and enable things again....but do like one change a day. And when your android os skyrockets again....you'll know the last thing you enabled is the main culprit.
Anyway.....a pile of battery tips in here, and android os talk. Take some time and read through some. Maybe start at last page and go back as far as you can.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2418077
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Yes that battery life thread is very good. No change noticed here after the upgrade from 4.4
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Thanks, but I didn't really have to add anything except 4.4.2. The increased battery draw was pretty obvious after I applied the OTA. Since the upgrade, this phone doesn't have anywhere near the life that it once had. And even after the bugs that are draining it are addressed how long will it take to get the fix through Verizon?
cpurick said:
Thanks, but I didn't really have to add anything except 4.4.2. The increased battery draw was pretty obvious after I applied the OTA. Since the upgrade, this phone doesn't have anywhere near the life that it once had. And even after the bugs that are draining it are addressed how long will it take to get the fix through Verizon?
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Trust me, you can fix it now....if you try. Just gotta troubleshoot.
Many have no such bugs....or they've disabled whatever has wrecked their battery.
Just gotta put in some time and your issues can be fixed.
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Rooted with 4.4.2 and xposed/gravity box... Excellent battery life. Always 24+ hours use and 6+ hours of screen time. Granted I don't game but I always get some GPS and lots of music and browsing. I love this phone. I'm selling my n5 now.
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Jayrod1980 said:
Rooted with 4.4.2 and xposed/gravity box... Excellent battery life. Always 24+ hours use and 6+ hours of screen time. Granted I don't game but I always get some GPS and lots of music and browsing. I love this phone. I'm selling my n5 now.
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I seem to be one of the few that's matching my Moto x's battery life on my N5.
Not sure why some have such bad battery life on either phone sometimes, I can only assume its app related and very hard to pin down.
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I have noticed no appreciable change in battery life on any of the builds that the phone has had since I got it in December. Some days it is excellent, the next day, the wind blows the other direction (literally and figuratively) and the battery life is terrible with no change in usage or where my phone spends most of its time.
I had the Android OS bug after the OTA. I reflashed the stock firmware in fastboot and now it's gone back down to a more manageable level.
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I actually had slightly better battery life on my Nexus5. I still haven't passed 7+ hours screen time on the MotoX. I did it multiple times with the Nexus5. Although I think the Nexus5 has some tech to save battery while reading or screen is still. It still wasn't enough to make me choose it over the awesomeness that is the MotoX. Although I do miss that raw power every so often.
I too have had the random drain issue. It's definitely app related and since I reset and have stopped installing outdated apps I've been fine.
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You know, I thought it was just me, but the battery life definitely why down after 4.4.2! Yes they added a couple of features, but not that many for the drop in battery life experienced
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My battery life is better on 4.4.2
The issues are with apps that have not been updated since kit kat. I've since removed such apps and have been enjoying much better battery life.
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Installed ds battery saver. And let discharge overnight. Gsam reported a 2%/hr discharge. I had some apps not be shutoff
Install a xposed module appopsx or find a app on the play store if you don't have xposed. 4.4.2 requires root.
It's the built in permissions management. You can disable location for what app for example. It shows you what app is using that permission and how long ago it used it.
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I unlocked and finally upgraded to 4.4.2 on Tuesday the 18th. I had a four day weekend and was on my phone A LOT (because I wasn't at work), so I wouldn't consider it normal usage to compare with. I'm waiting patiently for my averages to level off now that I'm back at work and on normal patterns again.
Before I wiped I took a screenshot of my averages according to GSAM, and it was showing 15h7m (7h42m active) average battery life, with 5h3m (7h12m max) screen on time.
I am currently a little below that, 12h20m (7h33m active) average battery life, with 5h28m (5h17m max) SoT. I was on my phone basically all day Friday-Sunday and had it on and off the charger. I haven't really had a full cycle of waking up, using the phone all day, and going to bed yet.
The apps I am running now are almost all identical. I actually removed 2-3 of them after finding that Gravity Box could emulate the features of standalone apps that I was using.
I am not using Greenify (I didn't see any substantial gain from it), but I do have the Snapdragon Battery Guru.
Overall, I don't think it's worse.
This was my drain while I slept last night. That's even better than I thought it was. 4.4.2 BTW. I'm pretty sure I don't have any apps installed that haven't been updated since Kit Kat came out.
Having updated applications makes a huge difference.
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SymbioticGenius said:
This was my drain while I slept last night. That's even better than I thought it was. 4.4.2 BTW. I'm pretty sure I don't have any apps installed that haven't been updated since Kit Kat came out.
Having updated applications makes a huge difference.
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Some have got down to 0.5 per hour drain on standby, but I never could. Our x is about 1 also. Its strange, cause its set up about the same as my n5 and it can get to 0.4 usually, not in airplane mode either.
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The 5 is a beast on standby drain. I miss that. I'm not even going to try for less on the X. I just attribute it to the Touchless and Active Controls. Whether that's the case or not, who knows.
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SymbioticGenius said:
The 5 is a beast on standby drain. I miss that. I'm not even going to try for less on the X. I just attribute it to the Touchless and Active Controls. Whether that's the case or not, who knows.
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That's part of it I'm sure. Maybe the radio? Who knows what else. LOL
Still.....better battery at the end of the day than my n5....with my usage.
An extremely light user may get more mileage with lower standby for sure, but doesn't really affect my wife. She charges over night regardless.
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SymbioticGenius said:
The 5 is a beast on standby drain. I miss that. I'm not even going to try for less on the X. I just attribute it to the Touchless and Active Controls. Whether that's the case or not, who knows.
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I have always wondered if touchless and active notifications were the ones to be blamed for the average 1%/h drain on standby but never did a test to try it out, until today
I charged my phone to 100%, turned off touchless controls and active notifications and let it rest through the night, when I woke up 5h and a half later (yes, I usually don't get much time of sleep), I was still on 100%, just I did when I had my N4
I guess these stuff take so much battery because they have to keep the phone "awake" all the time to recognize your voice and to know if your phone is upside down or in your pocket or whatever and as much as motorola made them separate CPUs to handle it with less battery consuptiom, they still take that 1%/h... Probably we would get a higher %/h if it wasn't for the 8 chip processor motorola came up with
Actually I even think that it has something/all to do with the high android OS usage that we get, and to be honest, I really don't mind getting 1%/h drain on standby overnight if I can wake up any time in the morning and ask to my phone to do almost anything I want or check my notifications without having to light up the whole screen, so I'm quite pleased with it
hlaraujo said:
I have always wondered if touchless and active notifications were the ones to be blamed for the average 1%/h drain on standby but never did a test to try it out, until today
I charged my phone to 100%, turned off touchless controls and active notifications and let it rest through the night, when I woke up 5h and a half later (yes, I usually don't get much time of sleep), I was still on 100%, just I did when I had my N4
I guess these stuff take so much battery because they have to keep the phone "awake" all the time to recognize your voice and to know if your phone is upside down or in your pocket or whatever and as much as motorola made them separate CPUs to handle it with less battery consuptiom, they still take that 1%/h... Probably we would get a higher %/h if it wasn't for the 8 chip processor motorola came up with
Actually I even think that it has something/all to do with the high android OS usage that we get, and to be honest, I really don't mind getting 1%/h drain on standby overnight if I can wake up any time in the morning and ask to my phone to do almost anything I want or check my notifications without having to light up the whole screen, so I'm quite pleased with it
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Now we just need to test it througout the day with touchless control and active notifications off

LG G Watch i Nexus 4

Hi, I have a couple of questions, gentlemen, what do SmartWatch and the nexus 4 , because I wanted to buy pink equipment .
-whether the g compatible watch a joke?
Somehow I WILL -whether Up decently exercised the nexus 4 ?
-whether interface joke in Angielski ?
- AND HOW WILL to the battery will lose a lot on performance How will I use g Watcha now holds 2.5 DAY
Thanks for your help and best regards
sorry my english
Pretty hard to understand but android wear is compatible to any android device I believe 4.2 and higher. I have a samsung gear live and have no issues
I m using lg g watch with my nexus 4, it is working perfectly, yup battery life gets decreased due to bluetooth connectivity all the time sending and recievibg data to and from watch,but its only like a percent more for an hour
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I didn't understand a jack
What do you mean by Joke?
Anyway the LG G Watch will work with every phone that have Android 4.3+ and bluetooth 4.0.
Open this link in your phone browser http://g.co/WearCheck, it will check the compatibility.
The bluetooth 4.0 bring low energy connection so it will decrease phone battery life but just a little.
The LG G Watch don't have enough battery for 2 days, you must charge every night. (or day if you work at night).

Battery Questions

Just got my this phone yesterday (used). I traded my iPhone 6 for it and the guy had only had this phone for 3 days but wanted an iPhone. I have noticed that the battery life is ATROCIOUS on this particular unit. I can go from a full charge to 89 percent in under 15 minutes of screen on time. I am not sure if its because I have been on the phone alot downloading my apps, etc but I really hope this is not how the battery is going to be. I also run Android Wear so Bluetooth is always on but the battery just seems horrible compared to my iPhone 6. Anyone else experiencing problems like this? I have basic apps installed, no junk and I have the latest update from AT&T installed.
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Exleh said:
Just got my this phone yesterday (used). I traded my iPhone 6 for it and the guy had only had this phone for 3 days but wanted an iPhone. I have noticed that the battery life is ATROCIOUS on this particular unit. I can go from a full charge to 89 percent in under 15 minutes of screen on time. I am not sure if its because I have been on the phone alot downloading my apps, etc but I really hope this is not how the battery is going to be. I also run Android Wear so Bluetooth is always on but the battery just seems horrible compared to my iPhone 6. Anyone else experiencing problems like this? I have basic apps installed, no junk and I have the latest update from AT&T installed.
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Did you update "Blackberry" apps found in the Play Store? They may not show under "My apps" but if you search the play store for "blackberry" then you will see the list of apps that need to be updated.
They are updated and I'm still getting sad battery life.
Battery questions
No... you will get it there.. just go to blackberry world & search there. Just try to update your handset & remove all unwanted apps.
EdwardSmith36 said:
No... you will get it there.. just go to blackberry world & search there. Just try to update your handset & remove all unwanted apps.
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Blackberry World is on Blackberry 10 OS, but on Priv it is the PlayStore
I just downloaded the app "Two Dots" and played it for around 30 minutes. In this time, the Priv got REALLY hot and lost more than 20% of battery. This is really disappointing (the app doesn't even use complex graphics). According to GSam Battery Monitor the hourly discharge rate was 50% of the whole battery capacity.
In general the battery drain is very high when I switch between apps or browsing the web. Onscreen time then is between 4 and 5 hours.
I also tried out the game on my old Sony Xperia Z1 Compact which got warm only a bit.
I guess the snapdragon 808 is very inefficient in the Priv.... do you think this is something to be solved via future software updates? I don't really want to get used to this.
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I just downloaded the app "Two Dots" and played it for around 30 minutes. In this time, the Priv got REALLY hot and lost more than 20% of battery. This is really disappointing (the app doesn't even use complex graphics). According to GSam Battery Monitor the hourly discharge rate was 50% of the whole battery capacity.
In general the battery drain is very high when I switch between apps or browsing the web. Onscreen time then is between 4 and 5 hours.
I also tried out the game on my old Sony Xperia Z1 Compact which got warm only a bit.
I guess the snapdragon 808 is very inefficient in the Priv.... do you think this is something to be solved via future software updates? I don't really want to get used to this.
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I'm noticing horrid battery life too - as per another thread I've tried disabling the T-mobile app and will report back. Which carrier are you on?
Trevorq243 said:
I'm noticing horrid battery life too - as per another thread I've tried disabling the T-mobile app and will report back. Which carrier are you on?
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I bought it directly via Amazon Germany, therefore I didn't have any carrier apps.
What's your SOT? I noticed that mine is a bit better since the February update.
Hey all,
I have my Prive sine last monday. The model is STV100-4.
The problem with the battery occurs also on my BB. The SOT is max about 4-5 hours, the phone can also get really hot.
But it was a lot worse before I updated every app and OS after unboxing, so I believe it will be fixed, because it is a problem on software's side.
x-revo said:
I just downloaded the app "Two Dots" and played it for around 30 minutes. In this time, the Priv got REALLY hot and lost more than 20% of battery. This is really disappointing (the app doesn't even use complex graphics). According to GSam Battery Monitor the hourly discharge rate was 50% of the whole battery capacity.
In general the battery drain is very high when I switch between apps or browsing the web. Onscreen time then is between 4 and 5 hours.
I also tried out the game on my old Sony Xperia Z1 Compact which got warm only a bit.
I guess the snapdragon 808 is very inefficient in the Priv.... do you think this is something to be solved via future software updates? I don't really want to get used to this.
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I bought it directly via Amazon Germany, therefore I didn't have any carrier apps.
What's your SOT? I noticed that mine is a bit better since the February update.
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I can't recall off the top of my head - disabling T-mobile fixed it for me. It will make it through most of the day though, lots of use and bluetooth/wifi/gps always on. Plus Google Now, which is a battery killer. All sync etc is on, so I could easily make a full day if I shut that stuff off. As of right now, I'm on 1.5hrs SoT with 78% battery. Before, that'd have me down near 50.
I can't make any recommendations, I'm afraid. If you haven't got any carrier apps maybe check what apps are using the battery in the first place? I noticed when T-Mobile was acting up, it'd hide as "Android OS" and I'd have an even distribution between that and screen. Now, the screen takes up a much more significant percentage of my battery, so if you've got a similar distribution you'll know what's up.
See what your CPU is up to. I know that's what my rogue app was doing, cranking the CPU for no reason. Maybe you've got something similar going on with a different app. Some people have recommended updating/disabling the BB apps. Maybe give that a shot? I disabled some of mine since I don't use them but that didn't yield much (if any) battery changes. Your results may vary.

High Battery Drain since update 3.18.14-9519568

There are a number of battery draining threads but they all seem to be much older than this one which relates to an October software update.
The battery has already been pretty good and generally lasts a day but since this update it is virtually shot by about 2 in the afternoon even with little or no use.
Google searches seem to indicate an Oculus or Gear issue but as far as I am aware I have neither on my phone which is used for business not gaming.
I have now hibernated most of the apps and restarted a number of times but nothing makes any difference and means I now have to carry a large battery back with me.
Is this a problem relating to perhaps an app on my phone or are others having this issue.
It is an O2 phone using official Samsung software updates running 6.0.1
Thanks
brianleach said:
There are a number of battery draining threads but they all seem to be much older than this one which relates to an October software update.
The battery has already been pretty good and generally lasts a day but since this update it is virtually shot by about 2 in the afternoon even with little or no use.
Google searches seem to indicate an Oculus or Gear issue but as far as I am aware I have neither on my phone which is used for business not gaming.
I have now hibernated most of the apps and restarted a number of times but nothing makes any difference and means I now have to carry a large battery back with me.
Is this a problem relating to perhaps an app on my phone or are others having this issue.
It is an O2 phone using official Samsung software updates running 6.0.1
Thanks
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I've managed to reduce battery consumption & laggyness simply by flashing firmware via S Switch. hope you can do that too.
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Tab S5e horrible standby battery drain

Last week I have purchased a brand new S5e, and overall I am pretty happy with it, outside of one big problem: the damned thing loses like 30-40% of full battery charge per day while sitting in my desk drawer, doing absolutely nothing. This is, frankly, unacceptable. My two-year old Galaxy Tab A loses 2% per day when idle, so I would kinda expect similar idle drain from the new device as well, given they have similar-sized battery (7040 mAh in S5e vs 7300 in Tab A).
I have tried:
Uninstalling unused bloatware via ADB pm uninstall
Turning off data and wifi
Turning location off
Restarting the thing
"Sleeping" of all the apps via Samsung's battery save features
Factory resetting the tablet and repeating the above with no extra apps installed
Tried the "Extreme battery saving" feature, but frankly, that leaves the tablet in absolutely unusable state because it limits you to like 5 built-in apps and portrait mode. Who the f uses their 10" tablet in portrait mode?!
Currently trying Airplane mode, will see how that goes, but I'm not keeping my hopes up at this point. -- Update: Airplane mode seems to have satiated its hunger for battery, but that's not really an option to keep on at all times. Any other ideas?
I'm frankly running out of options here. I bought this for xmas and it's, tbh, unusable in this state. It does have the latest software update from Samsung (October 1st, 2019).
I've tried running BBS to shed more light on what's going on, and while it's showing the device is spending nearly 50% of the idle time in "Awake (screen off)" state (compared to 2-4% on my tablet and phone), but neither Kernel nor Partial wakelocks show anything egregious. And normal battery stats are about as useless as you'd expect, too.
Currently considering taking it back and asking for a return or RMA, but figured I'd ask here first, maybe one of y'all has encountered the issue and by chance knows what's the problem and how to fix it.
You need to take an idle log with BBS and post in the BBS thread asking for some analysis.
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You need to take an idle log with BBS and post in the BBS thread asking for some analysis.
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Remind me, how do I do that?
Naptime by Francisco Franco will turn off Wifi / Data / GPS when the screen is off, and turn it back on when the screen is turn back on. Works best on Rooted devices though.
I'm using Lineage 16 on my Tab S5e, I generally get somewhere between 7-8 hours of SOT, and go 5-7 days between charges. I use Naptime on all my tablets have for a long time. Found it doesn't work as well on cell phones. I haven't paid attention to what my idle drain is, but overall my battery performance has been excellent with Lineage.
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Remind me, how do I do that?
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The BBS thread has all you need. Read it there...
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I have figured it out.
Turns out, the tablet has some issues with the provider's sim card and plan. I got internet-only plan and it does not allow for neither outgoing nor incoming phone calls. And my other tablet has a normal calls+data plan. When I swapped cards between the two tablets the drain issues also swapped! Except the older one wasn't draining nearly as fast, but still noticeably enough. While new one only lost 1% overnight.
So looks like I will be staying with my old plan, maybe upgrade it a bit. Oh well, no big loss, but mystery solved.

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