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I had my first hairline scratch for SGS2 within 4 days of usage. Probably the Oleophobic coating it had which is more prone than Gorilla Glass.
I hurried to get a Screen protector but what about the camera?
Nobody in the forum seemed to be concerned about giving the 8MP's a decent protection.
Anyone here use a old SP on the lens or leave it as it is?
For a scratch-phobia user like me, probably not leaving chances to luck.
mystril said:
I had my first hairline scratch for SGS2 within 4 days of usage. Probably the Oleophobic coating it had which is more prone than Gorilla Glass.
It is Gorilla Glass
I hurried to get a Screen protector but what about the camera?
make one out of a screen protector .
jje
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I stick a smiley sticker on the back under the camera so it doesn't touch the surface when I leave it on the table.
Or you may trying cutting a piece from a screnprotector...
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I had my first hairline scratch for SGS2 within 4 days of usage. Probably the Oleophobic coating it had which is more prone than Gorilla Glass.
I hurried to get a Screen protector but what about the camera?
Nobody in the forum seemed to be concerned about giving the 8MP's a decent protection.
Anyone here use a old SP on the lens or leave it as it is?
For a scratch-phobia user like me, probably not leaving chances to luck.
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Once I fixed a piece of a screen protector (which corresponded to area of the home button) on the camera's glass but it made my pictures terrible, specially because I covered the flash also. then I removed it. However it was one of the cheapest screen protector. A crystal clear one might be a different story.
mystril said:
I had my first hairline scratch for SGS2 within 4 days of usage. Probably the Oleophobic coating it had which is more prone than Gorilla Glass.
I hurried to get a Screen protector but what about the camera?
Nobody in the forum seemed to be concerned about giving the 8MP's a decent protection.
Anyone here use a old SP on the lens or leave it as it is?
For a scratch-phobia user like me, probably not leaving chances to luck.
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I'm using martin shields screen protector, it comes with the protector for camera lens as well.
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I use two magnets and a washer for protecting it.... here is a video showing it with my old Galaxy S battery cover....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-8P-xy32Tg&hd=1
Isn't compass showing towards your camera all the time?
I bought the SGP Ultra Capsule case for SGS2. It makes the phone about 1-2 mm thicker so when you put the phone on a flat surface the camera stays intact. Same goes for the screen. I've never used or even liked phone cases before but this case is awesome, my friends didn't even notice my phone had a case It also comes with a Crystal Clear screen protector so you can cut it to make a piece for your camera.
Oh and about the screen. The SGS2 screen is made of Gorilla Glass and has oleophobic coating. Oleophobic coating is not a glass type but coating, something that is added on top of the glass. And that coating doesn't scratch so you can't say that SGS2 is more prone to scratches due to the coating.
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Isn't compass showing towards your camera all the time?
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Yes, the compass is the only disadvantage... But I dont use it, I prefer protecting the camera...
Jiia said:
I bought the SGP Ultra Capsule case for SGS2. It makes the phone about 1-2 mm thicker so when you put the phone on a flat surface the camera stays intact. Same goes for the screen. I've never used or even liked phone cases before but this case is awesome, my friends didn't even notice my phone had a case It also comes with a Crystal Clear screen protector so you can cut it to make a piece for your camera.
Oh and about the screen. The SGS2 screen is made of Gorilla Glass and has oleophobic coating. Oleophobic coating is not a glass type but coating, something that is added on top of the glass. And that coating doesn't scratch so you can't say that SGS2 is more prone to scratches due to the coating.
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Yeap you're right. It should be the scratch-resistant (not proof) gorilla glass. I must make it clear that the scratch is a negligible hairline that only shows when screen's off.
I probably get a cheap crystal protector for the camera. Can't risk getting the goodness scratched =[
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I'm using martin shields screen protector, it comes with the protector for camera lens as well.
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How is the screen protector like? I purchased a Matte Screen Protector and hell it makes my Super Amoled screen like rainbow glitter all over my screen. Especially the whites.
Worst money spent on a SP.
enough with cheap screen protector.
Try brando ultraclear and you won't regret it (brando don't pay me).
jokes aside, i had a pleomax screen protector with anti fingerprint treatment that work but the colors were bad. With the brando now i have the fingerprint but the colors are perfect and it's like there is not protector on the screen.
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sar3vok said:
enough with cheap screen protector.
Try brando ultraclear and you won't regret it (brando don't pay me).
jokes aside, i had a pleomax screen protector with anti fingerprint treatment that work but the colors were bad. With the brando now i have the fingerprint but the colors are perfect and it's like there is not protector on the screen.
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thanks man!
right now there're a few major downsides to SP for SGS2
Anti Fingerprint SP
+No Smudges
- Rainbow speckled display can drive some people mad when the purpose of SGS2 is it's beautiful AMOLED display. I mean, whats the point? Lol.
Crystal Clear SP
+Almost Naked SP
- Smudges.
Note: I am not too sure the extent of smudges on SP affecting user experiences.
But in short, with respect to thread's subject, I find many people have really unique ways to Sealing their SGS2 from wear and tear and by far the Magnet cover is the most creative and unique.
Solutions to SP for Camera
1) Get Martin Field's SP. They come with Camera SP. But they're only ones to do so.
2) Get a cheap crystal SP
3) Use a expensive SP just for the Camera SP.
Afterthoughts
I can't seem to abandon the thought of leaving the camera's glass Naked. I feel so uneasy when I lay it on the table, not knowing when some loose staplers or sand strikes/scratches.
Meanwhile I leave it to my case' thickness to safeguard my camera's glass for the time being...
Hello. I have managed to scratch my precious S4 screen just after using the phone for a week. Yeah I do have a mild case of OCD (at least what I think is mild ) considering that I do use a pouch for it I wonder what is the point with all those videos showing off the impressive Gorilla glass x. Of course the second I noticed it I applied a screen protector. So much for Gorilla glass..
If you want a pouch....buy a kangaroo.
As everyone will tell you Gorilla is scratch RESISTANT NOT SCRATCH PROOF.
The ads that demo how tough Gorilla glass is show them using coins,keys and knives on the screen mainly. These are "softer" than the layer on the glass so it doesn't scratch.
Sand however is very "hard" so it can easily scratch Gorilla glass. If you got sand in the pouch and it rubbed on the screen it will definitely scratch it.
It's actually a very good product and is more resistant than other glass but it isn't indestructible and the manufacturers don't claim it to be.
Sand is a screens worst enemy.
P.S Why did you post this in Q+A?
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Had my S4 for over 6 months with just the case in the picture. I check my screen every now and then for scratches and marks. I literally can't see a THING on that screen and it's very impressive. I'm pretty careful with my phones but my last phone, HTC Mozart, had a much softer screen. Seriously, you might be used to it now but old displays were a LOT more sensitive than these new screens...
Dropped mine with no cover on concrete twice. Landed screen down both times, no scratches, no issues at all. What did you do to the screen? As said above it's scratch RESISTANT. Sand and other abrasive substances will scratch it. Sand has eroded land masses over time when you think about it.
I always have to ask this as there are a LOT of clones about, is your device a real s4?
Apparently this stuff is indestructible, however I've never dropped my phone, never put it in a pocket with any coins or keys etc, it's always by itself, yet I have two sizeable scratches on my screen.
Anybody else having this issue?
I've scratched every gorilla glass phone I've own. Most of the time it happens when I just have my phone in my pocket.
People underestimate the capabilities of dand particle. That is actually the real horror. This is why i have used a screen protector on everz device ive owned after my htc one x. Onthe n4, g2 and g3.. Not willing to risk scratches im rrally picky about that
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Better experience
My LG G3 the screen scratched within a week very awful, Gorilla Glass fail
My previous HTC Droid DNA is completely scratch free after 18 months of use. Gorilla glass win
My Galaxy Nexus (non-gorilla glass) was a joke, scratched and cracked in the first month.
My Motorola Droid X completely scratch for 2 years, until the day it hit concrete for the millionth time and the screen shattered. Gorilla glass win
My OG Motorola Droid No scratches no cracks. Gorilla Glass win
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My LG G3 the screen scratched within a week very awful, Gorilla Glass fail
My previous HTC Droid DNA is completely scratch free after 18 months of use. Gorilla glass win
My Galaxy Nexus (non-gorilla glass) was a joke, scratched and cracked in the first month.
My Motorola Droid X completely scratch for 2 years, until the day it hit concrete for the millionth time and the screen shattered. Gorilla glass win
My OG Motorola Droid No scratches no cracks. Gorilla Glass win
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I agree... Never had this issue with sammy phones. That's why i bought a tempered glass screen protector from orzly, very nice feeling and appearence!
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Apparently this stuff is indestructible, however I've never dropped my phone, never put it in a pocket with any coins or keys etc, it's always by itself, yet I have two sizeable scratches on my screen.
Anybody else having this issue?
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I totally disagree with your point. Whether its gorilla glass or not, the glass has to come to contact with something to get scratch on the surface of glass and in your case gorilla glass without you aware of it.
Yup, I always end up scratching it with normal usage, but I don't mind anymore, I don't like constantly trying to pamper my phone haha
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Never scratched a phone screen, never buy screen protectors.
I took a fork to the Droid X screen and tried to scratch the screen with all I had. There were very slight thin lines but the screen looked great for the most part after such abuse. This was the original strength gorilla glass. None of my other GG phones have had scratches. I've had a good experience with them.
I have never used screen protectors and my previous device was s2 which I had it for 3 years without even a single scratch
Needless to say I'm so careful and I don't even let my screen get dirty by touches and leave it for a while. Because I don't like the feeling of touching a dirty surface.
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I took a fork to the Droid X screen and tried to scratch the screen with all I had. There were very slight thin lines but the screen looked great for the most part after such abuse. This was the original strength gorilla glass. None of my other GG phones have had scratches. I've had a good experience with them.
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Why would you want to do that ? :/
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Why would you want to do that ? :/
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I was drunk and wanted to show off the gorilla glass
Gorilla glass is basically polycarbonate plastic. Polycarb scratches easily, as anyone with modern glasses will attest to.
But in my experience, the scratches are very faint.
I've got a deep scratch. Only had phone in pocket. Not great.
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Gorilla glass is basically polycarbonate plastic. Polycarb scratches easily, as anyone with modern glasses will attest to.
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Rubbish
I always use a screen protector. Considering their cost and what you risk if you don't use one (irreversible damage) I don't see any valid reason to not use one.
Mine has severe erosion from a simple smooth cloth protector that that a little fold in it. And that after the first week with light usage (just work and home where it just sat on my desk).
Never seen such a bad glass, the old S2 has survived much much worse and still has a flawless screen.
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Apparently this stuff is indestructible, however I've never dropped my phone, never put it in a pocket with any coins or keys etc, it's always by itself, yet I have two sizeable scratches on my screen.
Anybody else having this issue?
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No one ever said gorilla glass is indestructible. I'd say 50% of people, android or iPhone user, I see havw cracked screens or huge scratches
Why first thing I always get is a tempered glass screen protector, and I try to have one put on before I even leave the store.
I can attest to the tempered glass screen protector. . Had it on my Note 3, my little kid threw my phone against the wall, glass screen scattered but the phone screen was perfect. Replace the glass screen protector and you're good to go
Don't understand why more people aren't using tempered glass screen protectors
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I keep my phone in a pouch/sleeve - cause i hate cases, keeps it well protected.
Do you by chance wear a diamond earring? I ended up with a scratch on my S4 after my gf used it one night with hers in.
we just purchased galaxy s7 edge last 2 weeks and there is 2 hairline scratches already i mean our family don't have point nails and my mom don't bring it outside whenver she goes its just on the house
and the home button has 1 scratch already wtf pls help?
i think the scratch is from the inside of the coating hmmm i can see it only when u flash a light or through the sun
You must buy a cover for this device. Moving with it inside your home, not putting in your pocket, placing it around, it's a definitely risky situation: there could be something that scratch back surface or front surface. Fortunately edges allow cover producers included Samsung to place higher corner at the top and bottom, so it stays on the front without touching what's leaned on. Glass scratches! EVER, gorilla will never tell you
I have the same issue.
I got my device on Monday, Tuesday morning i noticed the first big scratch on top of the screen.
Wednesday morning i noticed another one, this time on the bottom.
They are rather huge, and the funny thing is that when i clean the device, the scratches are gone.
When i use the device and the screen is covered with fingerprints, then they reappear. So I must assume that the oleophobic coating is damaged.
And i think I found out where it happened. In the pocket of my jeans on the inside I have stitches . Seems that when i move around, these stitches will rub on the device and destroy the coating.
This is the first phone where this happened. Ever.
Now i ordered a oleophobic spray and hope that I can repair it.
which spray did you order i need as well and from were
Fusso. Amazon. Expensive. I use rain x though. Apply liberally and then wipe liberally with slight damp microfiber cloth. May need to wipe a couple days to get it to desirable level of smoothness and not leaving bad streaks. But I also do this in screen protectors. I never use the glass directly.
scratches on samsung devices are a known thing since long ago.. nothing new here
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scratches on samsung devices are a known thing since long ago.. nothing new here
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Silly. Samsung uses the same Gorilla glass everyone else uses, and they all use similar oleophobic coatings.. It's no more susceptible to scratches than any other phone.
Yup, i got i minor one how i dont know but now i have a case and screen protector.
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which spray did you order i need as well and from were
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I ordered it on Ebay. Somewhere else I read that they are very good, but they will arrive in two weeks time before i can give any impressions.
Dealername - store*japan
Product - F/S Proteger Oleophobic Coating Kit
meyerweb said:
Silly. Samsung uses the same Gorilla glass everyone else uses, and they all use similar oleophobic coatings.. It's no more susceptible to scratches than any other phone.
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you sure its the same glass?
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Just the front is gorilla glass, the back is normal glass.
And the back of the htc is metal, not glass. Stupid comment.
The front of every high-end Android phone sold in the US is Gorilla Glass 4. Yes, the same glass.
well thats me rip my s7 edge has back stratches already regret buying this ****
I've had my Note 4 for a year and a half, not a single scratch, hairline or other. Day 3 with my S7edge, I have several fine scratches. I don't know if it's the curved glass, but this screen is definitely not durable.
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I've had my Note 4 for a year and a half, not a single scratch, hairline or other. Day 3 with my S7edge, I have several fine scratches. I don't know if it's the curved glass, but this screen is definitely not durable.
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My previous S6 Edge+ got a hairline scratch on the display almost right away. It was only visible when the screen was clean.
That's the reason I put a protector on my S7 Edge the second I pulled it out of the box.
The SAMOLED displays definitely scratch easily, or at least the coating does.
Hi folks,
I'm looking for feedback on oleophobic coating.
No matter whether it's the native glass or screen protectors, I just need to look at my phone and within seconds it's a mass of disgusting fingerprints.
Has anyone here any experience/recommendations of oleophobic products that actually work at keeping fingerprints at bay?
Your feedback would be much appreciated, even if it's only to confirm my thoughts that they're all just 'snake oil'.
Thanks.
I tried some products, and not a single one worked, I just accepted the fact, only way to reduce finger print smudges is to keep hands reasonably clean, cleanning the screen repeatedly or compulsively will at some point make micro scratches due to very tiny silica particles in the dust, this, I learned the hard way...
2 second wipe of my display and it's pristine again. Also, this is a Note device so I'm constantly using my S-Pen which helps lower the amount of fingerprint smudge.
I haven't touched the bare factory glass, so can't comment there. But the factory installed screen protector was very oleophobic in my experience. And my Whitestone Dome is almost impossible to leave fingerprints on it. Maybe you just have naturally greasy fingers?
Now the back glass? Ha! If I look at it, it gets a fingerprint mark.
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I bought my phone in early February. Removed the protective film early March, and 3 weeks later I can't hardly use fingerprint without wiping the screen thoroughly first.
The area where I swipe with my thumb is completely missing oleophobic coating.
I even bought my first leather case ever the day I removed the protective film.
Anyone know If Samsung has any warranty for that kind of stuff?
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I bought my phone in early February. Removed the protective film early March, and 3 weeks later I can't hardly use fingerprint without wiping the screen thoroughly first.
The area where I swipe with my thumb is completely missing oleophobic coating.
I even bought my first leather case ever the day I removed the protective film.
Anyone know If Samsung has any warranty for that kind of stuff?
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Vicemania said:
I bought my phone in early February. Removed the protective film early March, and 3 weeks later I can't hardly use fingerprint without wiping the screen thoroughly first.
The area where I swipe with my thumb is completely missing oleophobic coating.
I even bought my first leather case ever the day I removed the protective film.
Anyone know If Samsung has any warranty for that kind of stuff?
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Doubtful IMHO because the screen works and detects your touch input. If your having to wipe it a lot before it will work then make sure your not smearing something onto the screen.
The oleophobic coating can wear off and from what I can interpret that's normal wear and tear (especially if your having to wipe the phone a lot) and not manufacturer defect. Granted it's always best to get a hold of Samsung yourself and ask them if it is covered under warranty... It may very well be, but only they will be able to tell you for sure with your phone.
Side note - If your trying to use the fingerprint sensor and can't without wiping the screen first then (based on your wording) your maybe doing it wrong. You don't swipe your finger on the sensor... You touch or tap your finger on the sensor. You can always also try deleting and re-registering your fingerprints using the instructions it provides, and also consider ensuring the phone firmware is up to date (in case any patches/fixes are included).
It's the oleophobic coating that has Weared out in that area.
If the screen is locked I unlock it with my fingerprint, and after that I swipe it open with my thumb.
And for some reason the oleophobic coating disappeared at that spot across the screen after a month's use.
So to be able to use my fingerprint, I have to clean the screen from the smear first.
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It's the oleophobic coating that has Weared out in that area.
If the screen is locked I unlock it with my fingerprint, and after that I swipe it open with my thumb.
And for some reason the oleophobic coating disappeared at that spot across the screen after a month's use.
So to be able to use my fingerprint, I have to clean the screen from the smear first.
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My phone screen gets dirty and full of fingerprints. Despite that I have zero issues with the ultrasonic fingerprint detection.
Now if the screen gets extremely dirty thats a different matter... but I'm talking more then just a finger print or smudge of a finger print. I'm talking things like if I handle foods or materials (especially ones that leave sticky residue on the screen) that leaves a residue on the screen. This could cause me some issues, but that is understandablly normal and why I clean my phone once a week using a soft microfiber cloth.
I just wanted to throw this in even though I'm mad late, but I had my note10 replaced on warranty. I specifically stated that the oleophobic coating had worn out too soon and I believed it to be a defect. It's only been a few months since then and it's already worn out again. I'm gonna try a Whitestone Dome.
I'm using IQ Sheild. I wipe it down every now and then with a dry microfiber cloth, dampen slightly if needed.
Looks great at the 3 month mark with no scratches or mars.
It still retains its original surface feel/qualities.
If I need to replace it tomorrow I got my money's worth out of it. Very pleased with its performance.
After 10 months, I have zero scratches and the oleophobic coating still works, not as day one, but reasonably well, at least it is still very easy to clean after smudging appears, I kept the preimstalled film for three months, at that point, it was somewhat scratched, and made the screen look ugly, I peeled it off, and to this very day, I enjoy the naked display in its full glory
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After 10 months, I have zero scratches and the oleophobic coating still works, not as day one, but reasonably well, at least it is still very easy to clean after smudging appears, I kept the preimstalled film for three months, at that point, it was somewhat scratched, and made the screen look ugly, I peeled it off, and to this very day, I enjoy the naked display in its full glory
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It will be fine until it faceplants on gravel etc or you get sand rubbing across it.
I live in the desert. It took only 6 months of no screen protector to get my S4 screen scratched even though I kepted it as clean as possible. Gorilla glass 6 is not more scratch than 4... the writings on the wall.
I did the S4 scratch test as an experiment as the LCD was already heat damaged.
The 10+ is always in a case with a screen protector and is spotless. I have zero issues with useablility or viewability and a high degree of necessary protection for a $1 G device.
Cleaning: best to a microfiber cloth to clean to glass or plastic. Ok to use dry, shake it out first even if just cleaned.
Use pure water for it's final rinse when washing.
I've used this method extensively on pro cam equipment including the plastic covered LCD displays without scratches. Always carefully clean off heavy debris like mud first though with running water.
Cloth, paper towels etc -will- scratch glass*, best not to use to clean optics with.
*only takes a grain or two of sand. Microfiber clothes help keep contaminants away from the item being cleaned very effectively.
I share with you the sand problem, as I live some 100 meters away the beach line, there is always wind blowing, and at some times, really strong gusts, not to mention when it is stormy, and yes, sand is a real nightmare
Yeah at least the 10 is well sealed... the older Notes weren't.
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I just wanted to throw this in even though I'm mad late, but I had my note10 replaced on warranty. I specifically stated that the oleophobic coating had worn out too soon and I believed it to be a defect. It's only been a few months since then and it's already worn out again. I'm gonna try a Whitestone Dome.
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Same issue. Ordered Oleophobic coating and we'll see
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Same issue. Ordered Oleophobic coating and we'll see
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This doesn't surprise me.
Your dry fingers/palms are actually abrasive.
They can and do polish glass.
On large concave telescope mirrors they use the palm of their hands in the last phases of shaping it.
I've polished out very fine scratches on L glass lens coatings* using just a clean dry finger. It takes about half an hour.
*these optic coatings are hard and very thin. Without them the optics are degraded.
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This doesn't surprise me.
Your dry fingers/palms are actually abrasive.
They can and do polish glass.
On large concave telescope mirrors they use the palm of their hands in the last phases of shaping it.
I've polished out very fine scratches on L glass lens coatings* using just a clean dry finger. It takes about half an hour.
*these optic coatings are hard and very thin. Without them the optics are degraded.
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It goes without saying that we all need screen protectors despite Gorilla Glass and oleophobic coating