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Hi, I'm very keen on buying the P3600 and am just wondering about a couple of things - firstly, not having used a touchscreen before, how easy it texting using the on-screen keypad. Secondly, an odd question, but one I've been wondering about - if you're viewing a web page, but are holding the P3600 in landscape (or sideways) when you use the scroll button which way does the page scroll - horizontally or vertically?
Thanks
Vertically.
Texting is fine on the Dopod D810 - I use the stylus and keyboard only now but if you prefer Phone Pad style, there is one installed too. I just don't like the way it requires you to select the word from the prompt list rather than just display the word in the msg straight away. If you're ambitious (& patience), you might also like to try the Transcriber with your hand-writing
TenGo text entry
Anybody tried TenGO Thumb and if so, does it integrate well with the Trinity and more importantly is it easy to use?
Thanks for all your help so far.
I've tried to install TenGO before but couldn't get it to work. Right after that, I found PhonePad and haven't looked back. For long texts/emails, I use Spb fullscreen keyboard...no stylus necessary...
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i have tried to install TenGo and this phone pad, oh and a couple of other alternate keyboards, and try as i may i cannot get them to show up. They exist in the list, both as an alternate input method and as an option on the keyboard choice pop-up. A soft reset after picking one still returns me to the original keyboard.
Am i missing something really obvious? If so where should i start looking?
Banafish, what is 'Spb fullscreen keyboard' - is it a stand-alone application?
Try using the iPhone-like keyboard. Love it for texting.
Of all I've used so far, thats the most comfortable, especially in landscape mode . Not only the keys are big, it also doesnt eat up all your screen space when writing like that of spb keyboard (which is good for writing essays, which I'll never do).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=296455
SPB fullscreen keyboard is an application:
http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/products/fsk/?en
You can install/uninstall it like you would any 3rd party app. Once installed, it will appear as an input option and you can access it that way. I have it mapped to one of the hard buttons so that I can just activate it when I need it.
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Banafish, what is 'Spb fullscreen keyboard' - is it a stand-alone application?
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Does anyone know if there's a sip out there that shows how many characters you've typed...because you really need to know when you've reached the 160 characters limit for a single text message?
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Does anyone know if there's a sip out there that shows how many characters you've typed...because you really need to know when you've reached the 160 characters limit for a single text message?
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I thought you can see this in the default message window, just that you need to close the text input panel first.. or scroll down the window.
ok, I just got tengo keyboard to work. Not for fast one handed operation, although you can try tengo thumb. There's a free 'lite' version of the regular tengo keyboard available.
Anyone ever tried using Fitaly? I managed to get upwards of 40 words per minute using that, even sometimes hitting 50 wpm. I installed 3.5 on it though, and it slowed down my phone so much, I had to take it off.
I'm using TouchPal at the moment, but it doesn't change when you switch to landscape. Can anyone recommend a decent keyboard which makes use of all that space in landscape?
Heh, I wish I could get TouchPal to work on my HD, but it refuses to install correctly.
I honestly thought TouchPal was the best keyboard out there. SPB Keyboard 4.0 has a landscape-fullscreen keyboard, which occupies the whole screen, with one line of text input. The HTC landscape keyboard isn't that bad either.
is there any KB out there as good as the iphone KB, including predictability?
HD KB isnt bad, but can drive me crazy sometimes as it isnt smart. T9 is prone to errors that place words in the middle of the sentance.
ekerbuddyeker said:
is there any KB out there as good as the iphone KB, including predictability?
HD KB isnt bad, but can drive me crazy sometimes as it isnt smart. T9 is prone to errors that place words in the middle of the sentance.
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This is a very personal choice so you should try out all of them. What I like most is Tengo, but not necessarily what you like. Iphone keyboard does not appeal to me at all.
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is there any KB out there as good as the iphone KB, including predictability?
HD KB isnt bad, but can drive me crazy sometimes as it isnt smart. T9 is prone to errors that place words in the middle of the sentance.
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Hmm, what's so great about the iPhone keyboard? Its predictability is rather average especially for a full QWERTY, and it is not nearly as thought-through as TouchPal (my favourite, if you can't tell ). TouchPal is so easy to use as it is a breeze to switch between all the possible modes, there is no soft keyboard for me that types faster than its SureType (2 characters per key) mode, in fact I don't have much difference in typing speed between this and my Blackberry's suretype board, which I loved, as I can type blindly and a lot faster on suretype than on qwerty. Best of all: activate word prediction, and it is a SureType, deactivate prediction and it is a QWERTY, without changing views. Nice feat if you want to throw in a URL or a custom word in between...
The ONLY drawback as far as I am concerned is the lack of a landscape mode, and it doesn't even feel like a drawback to me since I hate keyboards that completely change layout when the screen rotates. All fine and dandy that there is more space available for a KB in landscape mode but the fact that I need to change typing style along with the screen orientation every time gets old really fast.
Just my $0.02.
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Heh, I wish I could get TouchPal to work on my HD, but it refuses to install correctly.
I honestly thought TouchPal was the best keyboard out there. SPB Keyboard 4.0 has a landscape-fullscreen keyboard, which occupies the whole screen, with one line of text input. The HTC landscape keyboard isn't that bad either.
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TouchPal wouldn't install for me either.
Tried several times.
I use the Teksoft Fingertouch. After installing Gyrator2, it does both landscape and portrait, has 5 different keyboards, and the QWERTY full keyboard in landscape is what I use for SMS messages. The keys are just big enough to hit with your thumbs and I have Snailslug Touchresponse to give me haptic feedback whenever the screen is touched. I tried TouchPal, but the keys were just too small and it used the portrait keyboard even in landscape.
I really love the www.pocketcm.com keyboard, customizable and skinnable
@sebbes: Do you have a skin for pcm keyboard that fit in the HD in landscape mode (with a french layout ) ?
Anyone else got suggestions for good keyboard for "thumbboarding"? (ie with both thumbs). I think if done properly that's the best solution for text entry with the device, because you have a solid grip of the device with both hands, and the size of the screen makes the buttons big enough for thumb hits.
i just wish my old workinghorse TENGO THUMB would work
tryed it and it did end up realy weird on the sccreen.... i have used manny onscreen keyboards... but nothing beats tengo thumb when it comes to writing fast!
tengo.net
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TouchPal wouldn't install for me either.
Tried several times.
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Hm...that's strange. I installed Touchpal on my HD without any problems.
Are you sure you downloaded the Windows Mobile 6.1 version of Touchpal (not the 6.0 one)?
The only 2 issues I've had are:
- it doesn't stay as default after a soft-reset (though this is usually very quick to overcome as you can pop up the SIP menu and Touchpal is right there on the menu)
- as someone mentioned before, the landscape version isn't being displayed when the HD is on it's side...maybe a detection issue. The normal keyboard is displayed but it's still quite usable.
Ben
New version of TouchPal will support landscape mode. It should be out still ion this year.
In my opinion, the best keyboard on Touch HD is Tengo Thumb. Not the regular Tengo, but the Thumb version.
The QWERTY keys are zoned into 6 areas. As long as you press the correct area, it is unnecessary to accurate touch the precise location of the key. It is similar to the T9 version of the Compact QWERTY except you have fewer areas to worry about, therefore affording bigger hitting areas and requiring even less precision.
I had previously used the regular version, which gives a good regions size on my Athena, but that proves too small for HD. The aspect ratio of HD, being taller, also makes this keyboard a perfect input tool in portrait mode. On landscape it occupies just a little too much of the real estate though.
gnagis said:
i just wish my old workinghorse TENGO THUMB would work
tryed it and it did end up realy weird on the sccreen.... i have used manny onscreen keyboards... but nothing beats tengo thumb when it comes to writing fast!
tengo.net
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Tengo Thumb works perfectly for me. No wierd behaviours noted yet.
resco keyboard suits me quite well. the only thing that lacks is push and hold function for scandic letters.
tkalli said:
TouchPal wouldn't install for me either.
Tried several times.
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That is strange, I just download the latest V3.5 Touchpal install successful and it works very good in my HD
Some advice, please.
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Hmm, what's so great about the iPhone keyboard? ...........
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I'm not an iphone fan (see my signature) but i have to recognise that, as much as I hated errors while fingertyping (no stylus allowed, and I've BIG fingers) at least, when you push the keyboard, you see the intended hit character in a "bubble" that is slighly offset of the key, so you actually SEE the letter close to your finger, not the corners of a grey square UNDER your finger, where in fact you can not read what is inside.
Has any of the proposed keboards have this feature?
I've read all the posts in this thread without much info on specific features.
Thanks for help.
Touchpal 3.5
Ive tried them all but I always come back to touchpal. Works great on my HD. Just wont stay default, but not a big problem. Multiple dictionaries, I Speak English and Spanish and is great with both dictionaries. Resize on the fly if the keyboard is too big. Most programs resize automatically. Easy to use with thumb, perfect for me. All keyboards are personal preference though.
does touchpal have romanian dictionary ? where can i get it from ?
thanks.
Hi Guys,
Got myself a magic a few days ago, love it to bits but really struggling with the OSK.. the keys are just too small to type quickly/easily.
Is it just me and my big hands ? lol
Are there any alternatives for OSK out there ? (maybe like the phonepad style that comes in HTC EZInput for WinMo?)
Not sure how the keyboard could be much bigger than it already is. The screen is 3.2 inches across (diagonal) and that's all you have to work with. All that can be done is to make the buttons on the bottom row bigger (wider) by omitting the Shift and the Del button, but that would make the qwerty layout kinda funky.
Turn it on its side (landscape mode) -- the keyboard will be bigger that way than in portrait mode.
You can install the app "big keys" in the market and see how you like that. Or you can install the htc keyboard found in the Dream forums. HTC_Chime.apk is what you are looking for.
Thanks for the suggestions guys, I'll have a play with the HTC keyboard and see what it's like.
Does the Magic have the option of the T9 Dialpad keyboard? Or is it just a plain full QWERTY keyboard that auto-corrects?
I haven't seen a T9 option, but it's easy to turn the auto-correcting off, although it will still offer you suggestions, but won't mess with what you're writing.
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That reminds me, I must add "org" and "uk" to my dictionary so I don't keep entering my email address as [email protected]e
I do not know what video i was watching, but I saw that there was a dialer keyboard available on the HTC magic. Now, I do not know if it was a rooted phone (which it probably was) or if it was an application that was added to the phone. If I am correct, they were showing haykuro's work and it showed in the text input a dialer keyboard. If this is true, would one have to root their G2 phone for it to work? The thought of possibly bricking the phone, sort of...well...makes me feel uneasy lol.
Phone Keypad,
Compact QWERTY,
Full QWERTY, or
Swype?
Swype took me awhile to get used to, but it seems to be handy when i can't pay attention to the keyboard fully (driving and when watching something else)
Full keyboard is ok, but
I really prefer Phone Keypad.
I guess too many years spent with t9...
trying to switch to swype fully, though.
i love the full qwerty.
SWYPE! All the way.
Swype in landscape. Oh yes!
Swype
I'm slow at all of them! Used phone keypad forever, then swype on landscape,figured easier because bigger, not! Changed to small qwerty, fantastic! just get close to letter, poof, word appears!! love it!!
Full QWERTY since I mainly web browse. Swype isn't smart enough to know I don't want spaces in my website urls.. Also I don't want it to suggest correct spellings for urls..
As others have mentioned for web browsing, standard keyboard is great but othwerwise Swype is consistent and works well, Touchpal also very reliable and quite fast once you get the hang of it.
Tried Slideit, thought Swype better esp on our 4.3 in screens.
swype is great on portrait mode because our screens are so big, I actually never use swype in landscape
swype is impossible in landscape
Sogou, or full qwerty sometimes touchpal...
std qwerty suffice but I would love to have grafiti2 or block recognizer (if possible)
SlideIT all the way, as well in portrait as in landscape mode.
I only found out about swype last week and already my typing speed has quadrupled! not hard as I was pretty slow to begin with.. but its great to be able to type now at a normal speed on my phone ... just one thing... is there a fast way to get icons like exclamation mark or question mark without having to switch to the symbol keyboard...like holding down the key for a few seconds like on the standard HD2 keyboard?
hi
hi whats the swype kepboard? i have big probs typing im constantly doubling up the buttons or typing the wrong one.
Chivalryyyy said:
I only found out about swype last week and already my typing speed has quadrupled! not hard as I was pretty slow to begin with.. but its great to be able to type now at a normal speed on my phone ... just one thing... is there a fast way to get icons like exclamation mark or question mark without having to switch to the symbol keyboard...like holding down the key for a few seconds like on the standard HD2 keyboard?
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There are a few fast shortcuts, check out vid here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l64Twt1qlVg&feature=related
its meant for the omnia but on the HD2, same thing. For something like an exclamation mark, just press the Z key and drag down to the spacebar then release.
Also holding they key is supposed to work but i find this feature hit and miss, it doesnt always work but not sure why.
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std qwerty suffice but I would love to have grafiti2 or block recognizer (if possible)
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I liked the one where you could write anywhere. I prefer to not have the keyboard visuals taking up screen space
SWYPE! I love Swype. I've always been a hardware-qwerty guy. I tried the Swype beta on my Droid and loved it. I was on the fence about switching to the HD2, purely because of the lack of a keyboard...until I heard it had Swype. Then it was a done deal.
However, Swype is not great for web browsing and other things that require exact character combos that may not be words, without spaces and all that. I switch to full QWERTY for that.
Swype baby.
dadu said:
std qwerty suffice but I would love to have grafiti2 or block recognizer (if possible)
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5594168&postcount=1
Block Recognizer:
HKCR\CLSID\{42429691-ae04-11d0-a4f8-00aa00a749b9}\IsSIPInputMethod\Default = 1
HKLM\Software\HTC\ezsip\SIPMenuEnableMSSIP\Default = 1
Lately I have been using Touchpal.
Starting to get the hang of it and think it will be a keeper.
Hi,
I would love to know if there's a way to make the text that appears on the upper half of the screen as I write appear bigger? My phone is rooted and I'm using the SE default keyboard.
I would also like to know if there's any application that has spelling correction and suggestion similar to the one installed by default on all blackberry devices? When you type a wrong word it JUST has it underlined and in case you need suggestions you click on that word and it gives you all the suggestions available.
Thanks in advance.
This is not exactly what you are looking for, but I use SwiftKey, free in the Market. It has larger font and it has spell correction. Best of all, it has next word prediction. It learns how you write to suggest your next words. Many times I don't even have to type the next word, and most times I only have to type the first or second letter. It also has the most accurate voice to text, including punctuation. Last I checked the world speed typing record was set with SwiftKey. I can type emails and post to this forum faster than my pc keyboard. Only thing that takes a bit of getting used to is space bar always takes the suggested word.