Palm’s new next generation operating system, Palm webOS, takes the power of Windows Mobile and combines it with the simplicity of a web browser. Palm has just privately prereleased the Mojo SDK, which is based on the HTML5 and JavaScript standards that most web developers are already familiar with.
Mojo allows users to build applications complete with gesture-based navigation, transitions and scrolling as well as use the notification system to alert users without interrupting what they are dong. Users can also leverage local storage capabilities of HTML5 so that data is available even when users are in offline mode. Developers can also use JSON-based messages to tap into a wide range of device services including location, contacts and calendars.
An Eclipse-based IDE is included in the SDK that gives users a choice of tools used to build webOS applications. Currently the Mojo SDK is in a private release and will be made available later this year for free from the Palm Developer network.
http://rapidshare.com/files/249290461/PalmSDK_Win_0.3.4.exe
This was part of a discussion I had with a friend lately. I argued that windows 8/RT desktop environment looked fug-ugly compared to WP8/ModernUI and that it needed a MAJOR overhaul. Because TBH windows still looks generally the same now, as it did 10-15 years ago & is only really optimised for displays that are 13-24". But the thing is I see windows going to larger displays (HTPC's and Living Room PC's) and smaller ones (Handsize tablets) and windows on these displays just doesn't function nice.
However, my friend argues that they couldn't change the entire UI/UX of the desktop environment because too much legacy stuff will look out of place and be confusing. I understand this may be the case in a business environment where loads of a wide range of diverse and unique tailored software is used BUT I don't think it's a problem for the average home PC user.
The way I see it is that most people only use a couple of different applications on their home PC/laptop and I'm pretty sure it's only a handful of applications would need updating to the new UI for consumers to not have headaches.
So I was wondering, what do you actually run on a day-to-day basis?
Here's mine.
DAILY:
Chrome
VLC
Office
Adobe Reader
Dropbox* (Doesn't have a UI :laugh: )
That's mine! If MS came up with a much more unified ModernUI inspired desktop, I would only need 5 developers to update their app to the same style and I'd be happy.
All the major web browsers (everything from IE to Opera), not that web browser developers have been respecting their platforms' UI conventions for the last few years anyhow.
Office (mostly Word, OneNote, and Outlook).
Pidgin.
Steam (not that its terribly respectful of UI conventions either).
Windows Explorer (obviously built-in, but the TIFKAM "replacements" are crap unless you have reallllly fat fingers and no mouse).
Various terminal apps (cmd, powershell, bash, etc.).
Visual Studio.
A bunch of others that aren't "every day" but are needed for my job and such, although they rarely get run on my home system.
A bunch of full-screen games, but I suppose those don't count.
On my Acer W510, I've installed:
Chrome - works better than IE with AirDroid for connecting w/my Android phone
iTunes - still use my 7 y/o iPod in my car
Zune - can download 10 drm-free songs monthly on the grandfathered Zune pass subscription
Dropbox
Google Drive
Skydrive - can't upload folders w/the Win store app
Office
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I use dropbox,quake 3,vlc,microsoft office,evernote,pidgin,winamp and WinRAR
Here's what I use normally:
WinSCP
PuTTY
Hyper-V
A few Hyper-V terminals
Pandora One Desktop App
NetBalancer
Mumble
Opera
Firefox
Chrome
Steam
Deluge Manager
Task Manager
Visual Studio 2012 (and various related tools, such as windbg or remote debuggers)
Skype (Desktop Skype, Metro Skype has issues)
X-Chat (Hexchat)
WinRAR
VLC
Xming
Netbeans
Of all of these, the only ones I could see realistically being reproduced in Metro are:
Opera
Firefox
Chrome
Steam
Skype (Well, it is, but I can't get the Metro Skype to stay connected for any length of time)
Mumble
Pandora
X-Chat (Any decent IRC client would do, but there weren't any last I looked)
PuTTY (It could be ported, though I think it would work far better as a window)
VLC
Xming
netham45 said:
Of all of these, the only ones I could see realistically being reproduced in Metro are:
Opera
Firefox
Chrome
Steam
Skype (Well, it is, but I can't get the Metro Skype to stay connected for any length of time)
Mumble
Pandora
X-Chat (Any decent IRC client would do, but there weren't any last I looked)
PuTTY (It could be ported, though I think it would work far better as a window)
VLC
Xming
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Chrome already has (a really poor, is just the desktop browser without any options) Metro browser, Firefox has a beta version that looks and acts like an Android app. Gabe Newell is ****ting his pants over Windows 8 because it cuts him out of game sales completely: the Windows Store is already Steam. I don't know what Mumble is. There is already a third-party Pandora client that is excellent. There are already multiple IRC clients for Windows Metro. A TTY app needs to be Windowed? You really believe that? I run PuTTY on my eMate, let's be real here. VLC is begging for money so that they can decide how and when they want to make a VLC for Metro. I have already moved to MPC-HC and CCCP. I think you will see something like XBMC for Metro before any of the others because it is more portable in terms of being self-contained and not needing to hose down the system with files and registry entries to operate correctly.
dragon_76 said:
Chrome already has (a really poor, is just the desktop browser without any options) Metro browser, Firefox has a beta version that looks and acts like an Android app. Gabe Newell is ****ting his pants over Windows 8 because it cuts him out of game sales completely: the Windows Store is already Steam. I don't know what Mumble is. There is already a third-party Pandora client that is excellent. There are already multiple IRC clients for Windows Metro. A TTY app needs to be Windowed? You really believe that? I run PuTTY on my eMate, let's be real here. VLC is begging for money so that they can decide how and when they want to make a VLC for Metro. I have already moved to MPC-HC and CCCP. I think you will see something like XBMC for Metro before any of the others because it is more portable in terms of being self-contained and not needing to hose down the system with files and registry entries to operate correctly.
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Gabe Newell is going crazy because of competition. The Store is not replacing Steam, the games in it are at a different level (mobile casual games) than the desktop games from Steam.
scaryshark said:
The way I see it is that most people only use a couple of different applications on their home PC/laptop and I'm pretty sure it's only a handful of applications would need updating to the new UI for consumers to not have headaches.
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While I'm sure there are a lot of people who don't use their PC's for much beyond e-mail and the web, I think you're vastly underestimating the number of people who DO use more than just a handful of basic applications.
On a typical day, I use:
At least 3 to 4 programs from the Adobe Master Collection, and I need frequent access to all but maybe 3.
Several 3D programs including LightWave 3D and Luxology Modo.
SmartFTP
Virtualbox
Tight VNC client
All the major web browsers
Several small utilities like notepad++, Media Player Classic, etc.
That's my biggest criticism of the new UI - it pretty much assumes no one does anything productive with their computers. If Microsoft truly thought it was the future, why isn't Office fully Metro complaint? Because a touch UI is simply not an efficient way to control applications with ANY degree of complexity.
I appreciate this thread, as I am considering what I really do with my legacy apps that I can't do on rt. I use office, and adobe, but really on a day to day basis that is really it. Office 2013 works with metro ui, so I wonder just how beneficial legacy apps, other than games that are desktop, are going to be in the future. I have the Sammy Ativ smartpc 500t btw. I love it, but really dig the look and design of the surface. RT made me go with the intel run tablet, and I know the surface pro is coming out, but a bit pricey. Anyway, as I say, the two main legacy apps I use are office and adobe.
dragon_76 said:
Chrome already has (a really poor, is just the desktop browser without any options) Metro browser, Firefox has a beta version that looks and acts like an Android app. Gabe Newell is ****ting his pants over Windows 8 because it cuts him out of game sales completely: the Windows Store is already Steam. I don't know what Mumble is. There is already a third-party Pandora client that is excellent. There are already multiple IRC clients for Windows Metro. A TTY app needs to be Windowed? You really believe that? I run PuTTY on my eMate, let's be real here. VLC is begging for money so that they can decide how and when they want to make a VLC for Metro. I have already moved to MPC-HC and CCCP. I think you will see something like XBMC for Metro before any of the others because it is more portable in terms of being self-contained and not needing to hose down the system with files and registry entries to operate correctly.
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I posted those on that list regardless if they were ported or not to Metro.
Steam is better than Windows 8's games purely because of the already-established userbase/games
Mumble is a VoIP solution geared towards gaming
The third-party Pandora client, while decent, still has some standby issues on Windows RT. I'm hoping the official client (if/when it comes out) will have these solved.
Yes, I believe an SSH client is better off windowed. It's nice to be able to have a web browser and multiple SSH clients open on one screen. Also, there's no need to be condescending over a matter of preference.
VLC is looking for aid to help pay off the development costs for a totally-free app they produce, I don't think it's unreasonable for them to ask. MPC-HC requires codec packs (such as CCCP), whereas VLC has their codec packs bundled in, making an easier all-in-one install. I do agree that XBMC is a likely candidate for being ported first.
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Office 2013 works with metro ui
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Anyway, as I say, the two main legacy apps I use are office and adobe.
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Unless I'm mistaken (which I could be), Office 2013 does not work in metro - it's run from the RT desktop ui, so it's not really a "metro" application.
And when you say you use Adobe, what do you mean by that? It could refer to anything from Adobe Acrobat reader to Photoshop, After Effects and the rest of their graphic applications.
If you just use Acrobat Reader, there probably is, or will shortly be, a fully metro compliant reader, so that wouldn't be a problem. But if you use one of Adobe's graphics programs, there isn't, and I can't see there ever being, Metro and/or RT versions. First, the ARM architecture just doesn't offer the performance needed for the type of work Adobe's applications were designed to do. And second, the Metro/touch ui just doesn't facilitate the on-screen information density needed for the amount and intracasy of the tools.
Adobe may make "Touch" apps for Metro/RT similar to Photoshop Touch on iOS, but that's extremely limited in features and capabilities.
So if you need to use any of Adobe's main graphics programs, there's your decision right there - RT is out. If you just need to view PDFs, aside from the previously mentioned Office, then RT is a viable option.
looking for admob like stuff.
admob simply too slow to show ads before user see the ads. instead they close the window.
you can try to use UnityAds service
its quite simple and easy to setup, but their support is so very slow
Maybe Mobvista does
dhsoft23 said:
looking for admob like stuff.
admob simply too slow to show ads before user see the ads. instead they close the window.
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they use CPA model, but ads is quick, also, support is always there anytime you have some question.
MobClix, 2nd in popularity after AdMob, easy to integrate, multiple ad networks, pays more than AdMob but has high payment threshold before it will pay out, reportedly pays with 3 months delay.
MobFox, targets high revenue ads in US and Europe, allows you to control the minimum ad-click price.
MoPub, new kid on the block, multiple ad networks, different ad types (banner, full screen, video ads). Currently working on support for in-app payments, not really turnkey integration.
LeadBolt, multiple ad types like interstituals and video ads, high fill rate.
Airpush, pushes ads to the notification pane, some apps that use Airpush have been temporarily banned from Android Marketbecause users regarded this as malicious app behaviour. Has opt-out system either by entering your IMEI or installing an opt-out app.
Sure, there are quite a few networks out there to test, but results will depend heavily on your genre/user geos and also the active advertisers they have on the roster.
We have a full list here, with all their data: Thalamus.co
It's used more on the UA side, and we have average CPI + install rates by genre/platform/country, but it should be able to give you a good sense of potential eCPMs and other networks you might want to add into the mix.
Addvertize.com is a brand-new mediation network and app protection service in one click. Mostly it is focused on smart trigger-based ad serving, which generates legit additional advertising revenue stream for Google Play or non-Google Play users, depending on your settings.
This is complex solution targeted mainly for Google Play app developers and publishers, but also for 3rd party appstore publishers, traffic brokerage professionals and other specialists from various mobile niches and verticals. The solution is quite unique in many ways and doesn't have any alternatives on the market, and here is why:
One-click SDK integration:
Since the solution utilizes a trigger-based ad serving, it doesn't need a time-consuming painful integration. Couple of clicks, few minutes of waiting-and you are good to go.
100% APK protection:
80% of free apps and almost 100% of paid apps get hacked or injected with adware, malware, miners e.t.c., that's why Addvertize developed some proprietary protection tools in their SDK. You can be sure that your app will be protected from major adware networks and projects. Meaning that only you will be getting the traffic,not them. The more hard-earned money from ads you will get - the better for everybody.
Protection from SDK removal:
The other feature that guarantees you an increased ad income. No matter where your app ends up in the world wide web - you will be getting ad revenue from that. Just publish it, let it go and enjoy the profit. If your app is worth anything, it will be eventually distributed on various 3rd party channels and Google Play aggregators. This is especially important for paid apps, which tend to have up to 90% illegal traffic from hacked and cracked APKs.
Trigger-based ad serving system:
Addvertize utilizes a bunch of triggers that can cause an ad impression - an app launch, a returning user from "recent apps" tab, a hardware "back" button press, screen unlock or simply an impression on timer. All of those are highly customizable and can be combined and limited in any way, giving a perfect blend of non-irritating, yet profitable ad experience.
Additional monetization:
Hence the name, Addvertize is focused on additional monetization, without breaking your existing ad model. That means that the integration and the set-up process should be as easier as possible for you. Just upload your APK, set up few things and that's it!
Main monetization:
Addvertize' system is flexible enough to be your main advertising solution. They work with major and trusted ad networks like Startapp, Mobfox, inMobi and others, which means that those ads will be totally legit and Google Play compliant.
Different ads behavior for 3rd party users:
This is a part of the smart ad serving mechanism - you can set the system to show ads for non-Google Play users only. Too many of ads for Google Play installs can affect your app rating and promotion strategy. But why not to monetize those additional non-GP installs safely? All you need is just one APK for all of those traffic sources.
Remote control over ads:
One more part of the Addvertize' smart system - no need to re-upload your APK in order to change ad serving pattern. All is controlled remotely. For example, investing thousands of dollars in live installs and skyrocketing your app in top of charts is a very important - and expensive - venture. You wouldn't like those users to get bombarded with ads, right? But, having reached the top, why not to loose in the grip and turn on more ads, to compensate the expenses? With Addvertize this is manageable in one click.
Full Google Play compliance:
Addvertize show only Google Play policy compliant ads from legit ad suppliers. You can be sure that you won't have any issues with your Google Play account.
Referral system 5% and more:
The solution might be very useful for lots of publishers and other mobile specialists. And since that community is small enough, it makes sense getting advertised by word-of-mouth. Addvertize offer a flexible referral system in return for that favor.
NET30, convenient payout systems:
The project is offering NET30 payments, which is a standard for most of legit ad serving platforms. Also, a number of payout systems is available: Wire, PayPal, ePayments, Webmoney, other systems are negotiable. The minimum payout is $50.