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Just jumped ship from iPhone4 (sorta)

Hello! I am a Nexus S owner (for the second time now, had it back in the states then sold it before coming to Korea) Picked up an iPhone which I loved but after using Android on my Hp Touchpad, it made me realize how much I missed Android. I was going to pick up a Galaxy Nexus then realized they wanted 850 US dollars so I settled on a used Nexus S for 300,000 won (roughly 250 dollars) Its just like I remembered it, it feels cheap haha but I miss all the widgets and using the GO Keyboard on it is making the transition a lot easier. Also, the apps seemed a lot more polished up, I cant wait for Ice Cream, hopefully they roll the update soon over here. I'll still be bouncing back and forth to the iphone though.
What I really miss is my Droid Pro, anything with a portrait style keyboard is a-okay with me!

You don't have to wait for ics. Either update it manually or flash any ics rom. This is android, you can tinker with the phone whenever you like.

Emhalwis said:
You don't have to wait for ics. Either update it manually or flash any ics rom. This is android, you can tinker with the phone whenever you like.
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Yup, that's the best thing about the Nexus S, there's such a wealth of modifications for it. There's a very large amount of developers that support the phone.
Enjoy Korea, I lived there for about a year, fantastic place, I miss it a lot.

good choice!
I came from an iphone to the Nexus S and I'm never lookin back

BCasey said:
good choice!
I came from an iphone to the Nexus S and I'm never lookin back
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thats what im saying to my friends but they are stubborn xD. they only love apple because of their retina displays but that is totally bs

welcome aboard u want to check here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1063664 if u want to flash ur rom into ics

thegtfusion said:
thats what im saying to my friends but they are stubborn xD. they only love apple because of their retina displays but that is totally bs
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How is it BS?
I compared my nexus to a 4s and the colors were much more viberant on my phone but they arnt real.
For instance I edited a pic on mine, it was really hard because I was really adjectings the lightinds like a pretty bicth #based, but then I transferred it to my computer. And wow it was off. Didn't even look like what I was working with on my phone.
So yes we have nicer colors. But they are fake. Over saturated.
Im not even going to call it retnia because its LCD and we have olee. But I need higher Res for my line of work.
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While waiting for ICS to be released on a google phone my frustration has led me to an iPhone 4S. The screen is much clearer (retina is not bs), the phone is faster, and the battery life is better. I hope ICS is released soon for the Nexus S 9020A or I will end up selling the nexus s. I didn't buy a google phone to wait for updates. I may be impatient, but it's still really annoying.

Skillz1318 said:
While waiting for ICS to be released on a google phone my frustration has led me to an iPhone 4S. The screen is much clearer (retina is not bs), the phone is faster, and the battery life is better. I hope ICS is released soon for the Nexus S 9020A or I will end up selling the nexus s. I didn't buy a google phone to wait for updates. I may be impatient, but it's still really annoying.
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Where have you been? The official update was already updated a while ago. You are probably going to have to flash a zip manually though cause I've heard there have been issues directly from your phone. If you're going to flash a zip you might as well flash a custom one. They're faster, better, more settings and tweaks, did I say BETTER?!? . Go and check some out you won't regret it

I am not rooted and was against flashing a custom rom as I have to wipe my phone and lose everything. Anyway around formatting device but still unlocking and rooting?

Skillz1318 said:
I am not rooted and was against flashing a custom rom as I have to wipe my phone and lose everything. Anyway around formatting device but still unlocking and rooting?
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What's wrong with wiping? Just back up on your harddruve. I doubt your texts are that important. If so just screenshot using the Android sdk.
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Have a look here, should be able to do a non destructive root on GB. After you do that you can backup all your apps and app data with titanium backup and restore it after unlocking the bootloader. Just remember to copy over any files you need on your sdcard before unlocking the bootloader (particularly the newly created titanium backup folder).
Texts and call logs can be backed up with smsbackup + or the likes. Orr just copy the relevant files with a file explorer on the phone, can't remember exactly where they are though.

I didn't realize you could backup without root. Was trying to wait it out for the OTA as I was scared to flash ics and AT&T radio as I have never before but may give it a shot this weekend. Thanks guys.

Possible AT&T N3 Safestrap?

I thought that this video would give some hope to the AT&T N3 community. Looks like the Verizon N3 is going to get (or got) a program called Safestrap which is allowing them to install custom ROMs and other things on their version of the N3. This should be made applicable to the AT&T version soon. It may not be as flexible as a unlocked bootloader but does give some hope of being able to have the phone the way you like it.
http://galaxynote3root.com/galaxy-n...-custom-rom-using-safestrap-on-galaxy-note-3/

Yea it's been a while homie... The creator of it is working on trying to achieve it in our device as well
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Jayster0966 said:
I thought that this video would give some hope to the AT&T N3 community. Looks like the Verizon N3 is going to get (or got) a program called Safestrap which is allowing them to install custom ROMs and other things on their version of the N3. This should be made applicable to the AT&T version soon. It may not be as flexible as a unlocked bootloader but does give some hope of being able to have the phone the way you like it.
http://galaxynote3root.com/galaxy-n...-custom-rom-using-safestrap-on-galaxy-note-3/
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Oh man let's hope for the best. This is all kind of new to me having these issues. Even my One X was a pain in the ass, but not THIS bad with unlocking.

Will safe strap include being able to flash a kernel? That's honestly the #1 reason for an unlocked bootloader for me. I love playing around with cpu and gpu parameters trying to achieve best battery to performance. Plus faux123 has his kernel and coming from it with a nexus 4 I wish I had it on this device.

Safe strap will not allow kernel flashing. Only ROMs. It high-jacks boot up and redirects the device to boot from a secondary partition you create on the internal memory. You will lose space on internal memory to use safestrap. Although the Verizon folks (me included) have been able to overwrite the factory partition to avoid space lose. If you want to flash kernels you need to drop the 700 dollars on development edition of the phone. I can't believe how dead the development thread is for this device I was just looking for some options for a friend of mine who just got his AT&T N3.
I got more jelly beans than jelly belly, on my S3, S4, and both my Notes

Guess I should have stuck with nexus. Oh well ill trade the ability to flash kernels and roms for a removable battery and an sd card and large screen.

I'm pretty sure the DEVS within these forums will eventually find a way to crack the system. It's just a matter of time and patience.
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Jayster0966 said:
I'm pretty sure the DEVS within these forums will eventually find a way to crack the system. It's just a matter of time and patience.
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I don't think that's ever going to happen. This is sad but it looks like the Note 3 (At&t Version) will never have an unlocked bootloader. There is no way around it.
I will never buy another At&t phone again in my life. I will never buy a Samsung device again in my life.
I'm done with them both. I hope their happy. This is what they want.

LuckyColdJohnson said:
I don't think that's ever going to happen. This is sad but it looks like the Note 3 (At&t Version) will never have an unlocked bootloader. There is no way around it.
I will never buy another At&t phone again in my life. I will never buy a Samsung device again in my life.
I'm done with them both. I hope their happy. This is what they want.
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Got to have patience man. It's only been 2 months since the phone launched. I understand it is taking a long time...but it will get done.

tropazr said:
Got to have patience man. It's only been 2 months since the phone launched. I understand it is taking a long time...but it will get done.
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I would be shocked, but thanks. I hope your right because this sucks. I want to run Jedi bad.

tropazr said:
Got to have patience man. It's only been 2 months since the phone launched. I understand it is taking a long time...but it will get done.
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I have a locked S4 and have been waiting since I got it the wait will be long.
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LuckyColdJohnson said:
I don't think that's ever going to happen. This is sad but it looks like the Note 3 (At&t Version) will never have an unlocked bootloader. There is no way around it.
I will never buy another At&t phone again in my life. I will never buy a Samsung device again in my life.
I'm done with them both. I hope their happy. This is what they want.
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Agreed +1
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Will be a nice xmas gift to have an unlocked bootloader. 3 month mark should be a good gauge as to whether it will ever happen
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C'on where's the faith in our community of developers? :good:

Jayster0966 said:
C'on where's the faith in our community of developers? :good:
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They're still trying to unlock the dx. I had one. I did get used to just flashing roms, it's not that bad.

9wire said:
They're still trying to unlock the dx. I had one. I did get used to just flashing roms, it's not that bad.
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good news...
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/105617-safestrap-for-the-n3-vzw-and-att-testing-started/?p=1567258

Dissappointment - locked bootloader?

My previous phone (Galaxy SkyRocket) was a fantastic phone, but decided to upgrade since I could get the S4 for $99 and the SR was having trouble charging.
I come to find out there will be no rooting/Recovery/ROM because of the --- Mod Edit, masked profanity is senseless ---locked bootloader/MF3 Firmware from AT&T. And it doesn't sound like there is a good shot any of this will be cracked.
Very tempted to return the phone and get something else. Should I just hang in there and wait for a reliable root/recovery method or return the phone?

0rius said:
My previous phone (Galaxy SkyRocket) was a fantastic phone, but decided to upgrade since I could get the S4 for $99 and the SR was having trouble charging.
I come to find out there will be no rooting/Recovery/ROM because of the F****ing locked bootloader/MF3 Firmware from AT&T. And it doesn't sound like there is a good shot any of this will be cracked.
Very tempted to return the phone and get something else. Should I just hang in there and wait for a reliable root/recovery method or return the phone?
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Its been 9 months since the s4 was released and no exploit has been found yet besides on MDL and safestrap on mf3 but then again 4.3 just came out very recently and you can root your phone. I'd say turn your phone back in and get a nexus 5. Or you can cough up the extra cash if you want a gs4 and get the Google play edition. But overall I love my s4.
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Return it while you have the chance.
I was lucky to get an MDL S4, but if it was an MF3, I would have returned it in a heartbeat.
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I'm really looking into getting a new phone, too. MF3 blows.
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HORiZUN said:
I'm really looking into getting a new phone, too. MF3 blows.
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Same here.
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Huge let down. I hate bloat ware. This may be my last Samsung phone. I might go back to HTC or check other offerings when the time comes. I miss all the things you could do with a rooted phone running a custom ROM.

I would return it before it's too late.

0rius said:
My previous phone (Galaxy SkyRocket) was a fantastic phone, but decided to upgrade since I could get the S4 for $99 and the SR was having trouble charging.
I come to find out there will be no rooting/Recovery/ROM because of the F****ing locked bootloader/MF3 Firmware from AT&T. And it doesn't sound like there is a good shot any of this will be cracked.
Very tempted to return the phone and get something else. Should I just hang in there and wait for a reliable root/recovery method or return the phone?
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I got the LG G2 after coming back from a SGS4 and i gotta say, its a huge upgrade. Everything about it is better and there isn't any of this stupid KNOX and dumb Bootloaders

I'd say return it, I'm currently selling my S4, hopefully someone buys it. Never again Samsung.

crzykiller said:
I got the LG G2 after coming back from a SGS4 and i gotta say, its a huge upgrade. Everything about it is better and there isn't any of this stupid KNOX and dumb Bootloaders
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I will probably sell my S4 this week because of Knox. Is the LG G2 better than the Nexus 5 ?

Relayers said:
I will probably sell my S4 this week because of Knox. Is the LG G2 better than the Nexus 5 ?
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LG G2 = Nexus 5. Same specs, same processor and everything more or less. Just Nexus 5 is unlocked and will have more support than any other phones usually.

safestrap makes the MF3 tolerable but yeah, not being able to dabble with kitkat really sucks. Since this is my work phone I'll probably just use safestrap with a stripped down stock. At the moment I have graviton which is acceptable but IMHO still has too much bloatware on it.

Anyone have any thoughts about selling it on Ebay?

humblehyper said:
I'd say return it, I'm currently selling my S4, hopefully someone buys it. Never again Samsung.
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Yea

davebegue said:
Still love the hardware. The display is awesome. Removable battery, sd card. It is a dream phone. So aggravating that it has been hobbled like it is. Thought I was getting a great deal when I got it on eBay. Coming from s3 I just figured it would be easy to mod. Didn't do my research before buying. Still a great phone but really limited. So I am kind of stuck with it now. Maybe I could resell it and try to get one of those unlocked ones but crap they are expensive. I hope somehow it will get liberated.
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This is what I am leaning towards. Just deal with the crap/bloatware and hope some breakthrough occurs with these boot loaders.
I think Ebay is gonna be too much of a hassle and the handset is really nice, although not being able to tether is SEVERELY annoying.
Thanks to all for the advice.

This thread is depressing to me lol (phone comes in tomorrow....)
G2 has whack design with its buttons and and no sdcard..
Anyway I will probably keep the s4 (hopeful root) till something good comes out (was hoping xperia z1 would come to att) and then give the phone to my mom....
Everybody should call Samsung 1800# tomorrow around same time and complain to unlock BL (or AT&T which ever it is)
Surge and a few other Devs are working their brains out past few weeks (hopefully picking up traction) and get unlock)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2500826
Maybe somebody can help them

Traded my s4 for a HTC one. Don't regret my choice at all.
Down with locked bootloaders!
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Official OT lounge - (aka waiting for root room)

Hello All!!!
I know you all are bonding as a community going nuts waiting on root. Here is a place where you can discuss issues not necessarily Note 4 related. All we ask is that you still abide by the forum rules, keep it clean and keep it civil. We hope you all see root soon to kick off development!
Enjoy
FNSM

take me back to the old days where unlocking a boot-loader was done on release day haha

sfld said:
take me back to the old days where unlocking a boot-loader was done on release day haha
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Yes your right… on day one lol but its coming I believe real soon we will have root before christmas ? im almost certain of it what a gift it will be !!

Oh geez, I just remember the anxiety I had when I bought the HTC Evo when it first came out and rooted it day 1 lol. It literally took me hours before I got it right. I'm surprised I didn't brick the thing

l know it will do no good but I sent a Iong message to Verizon last night detailing the profit available to gain by offering an option to get an unlocked phone and other ideas.
It will never go beyond the first reader, but it made me feel better to get it out

sprintuser1977 said:
l know it will do no good but I sent a Iong message to Verizon last night detailing the profit available to gain by offering an option to get an unlocked phone and other ideas.
It will never go beyond the first reader, but it made me feel better to get it out
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There is also this petition in the S5 thread..and there was a poll somewhere that proposed a price for an unlock from Verizon but cannot find it now...will see if I stumble on it this morning.

Appreciate this thread. Yea I'm one of many desperately wanting root.
I guess we just need to relax a bit and appreciate what this phone is capable of "out of box".
It would still provide so much more if/when we were able to get it rooted.
Meanwhile, my hope is for other posters to come to this thread rather than to go off-topic in both the main "Bounty" thread & ".... Root" threads.

ha, best thing about this thread taking off is the idea the Root thread will update less filling me with false hope. This has really made me think about what Android is like without root, period. It's not as bad as back in the day using a non-jailbroken Apple device, but it definitely feels constrained. It's a constant disappointment reading about indie developed apps or other crazy creative ideas on XDA that are totally non-accessible on this phone. It just seems like a waste of...possibility. My highest praise to the Note 4 is that I don't think there's a better option available, even if root is an impossibility. But at the same time, it's the last totally locked down phone I'll buy.

So far not a fan of bootloader lock and no root think this is my last samsung phone I will buy.

Duck it. I like my N4 but it would be. great to have root someday

I really like my Note 4 even though it's the first Android device that I haven't rooted. The only thing I really miss is TB.

ChadH42 said:
I really like my Note 4 even though it's the first Android device that I haven't rooted. The only thing I really miss is TB.
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me too, i really do love the N4 even after i swore i'd never buy another samsung phone, i'm just being hateful that i cannot have full ownership of this device and do as i please.
Desperately looking for a dev edition -

The Note 4 is the first android phone I don't feel the need to root.
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Just got first nexus phone

Like the title says I just got my Nexus 6p, my first ever nexus device. Is the method to unlock the bootloader really as simple as I've found online. A couple fast boot commands and voilà? I have Verizon, shouldn't matter right? Just throwing that out there cause Verizon always finds a way to take away my fun.
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mikelikesbikes said:
Like the title says I just got my Nexus 6p, my first ever nexus device. Is the method to unlock the bootloader really as simple as I've found online. A couple fast boot commands and voilà? I have Verizon, shouldn't matter right? Just throwing that out there cause Verizon always finds a way to take away my fun.
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With other phones Verizon love to lock them down but they can't with the Nexus. Unlocking the bootloader really is that simple. Check out my guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/general/guides-how-to-guides-beginners-t3206928
It should have everything you need.

Don't forget that unlocking will erase your personal data from the phone so it will be just like starting over, but if you just got it that shouldn't matter
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Thanks for the responses. Bootloader unlocked, about to download SuperSU and flash. As long as I've been an Android fanboy I don't know why I waited this long to get a Nexus phone. Oh yeah, Verizon.
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mikelikesbikes said:
Thanks for the responses. Bootloader unlocked, about to download SuperSU and flash. As long as I've been an Android fanboy I don't know why I waited this long to get a Nexus phone. Oh yeah, Verizon.
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It's amazing how easy it all is with a Nexus after coming from locked down phones huh. These things are dev phones first and foremost though, they're meant to be tinkered with. Luckily here in Australia our carriers don't screw with the phones like some of the American carriers do, but then you have Samsung who are so anti-root/unlock it isn't even funny.

Heisenberg said:
It's amazing how easy it all is with a Nexus after coming from locked down phones huh. These things are dev phones first and foremost though, they're meant to be tinkered with. Luckily here in Australia our carriers don't screw with the phones like some of the American carriers do, but then you have Samsung who are so anti-root/unlock it isn't even funny.
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I had a note 4 before going to a Opo, then MXPE and then the 6p. Between all of them the note 4 was the worst by far. So much bloat and lag, and Samsung made rooting literally impossible so there was no fixing it.
I got rid of that phone quickly and will never go back to samsung.

Heisenberg said:
It's amazing how easy it all is with a Nexus after coming from locked down phones huh. These things are dev phones first and foremost though, they're meant to be tinkered with. Luckily here in Australia our carriers don't screw with the phones like some of the American carriers do, but then you have Samsung who are so anti-root/unlock it isn't even funny.
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Brookspeffer said:
I had a note 4 before going to a Opo, then MXPE and then the 6p. Between all of them the note 4 was the worst by far. So much bloat and lag, and Samsung made rooting literally impossible so there was no fixing it.
I got rid of that phone quickly and will never go back to samsung.
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Yeah Samsung used to be fun, back in the Note 2 days. That thing was unbrickable, if you did manage to bootloop, Odin factory firmware, unlock the bootloader again and you were golden. Samsung is now just the iPhone of the Android world.
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