I upgraded my unrooted Galaxy S5 to lollipop and it was bad, slow, freezing a lot. I disabled many Verizon-bloatware apps and lollipop is now a buttery smooth beautiful thing!
What pros & cons would rooting a phone generally give me for an average user's experience?
Most importantly, I'm looking to take & convert this S5 phone (and my daughter's Galaxy S3) to T-Mobile this weekend and want to make it all T-Mobile ready. Any insight, thoughts, suggestions, especially if I wanted to root or factory reset my phone but keep app data (such as Kung Fu Pets )?
I've been told by friends and cell providers these phones are already unlocked and can easily switch networks, no worries of voice or data settings on my part, TMo's WiFi calling will work as if I bought the phone from TMo, etc.
Thanks all!
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I upgraded my unrooted Galaxy S5 to lollipop and it was bad, slow, freezing a lot. I disabled many Verizon-bloatware apps and lollipop is now a buttery smooth beautiful thing!
What pros & cons would rooting a phone generally give me for an average user's experience?
Most importantly, I'm looking to take & convert this S5 phone (and my daughter's Galaxy S3) to T-Mobile this weekend and want to make it all T-Mobile ready. Any insight, thoughts, suggestions, especially if I wanted to root or factory reset my phone but keep app data (such as Kung Fu Pets )?
I've been told by friends and cell providers these phones are already unlocked and can easily switch networks, no worries of voice or data settings on my part, TMo's WiFi calling will work as if I bought the phone from TMo, etc.
Thanks all!
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This is my opinion only, with that being said for the average user there is no advantage to being rooted. The average user is not interested in flashing new roms or freezing apps beyond what Verizon allows. The average user wants to turn on their phone and go on their merry way. If something goes wrong they want to call Verizon and have they fix it for them. They would never touch Odin.
With that being said, because your in this forum your more than the average user. If you wan to freeze or uninstall more Verizon/Samsung bloat you need to be rooted.
As for moving to a different carrier I'll let some one who has done that chime in.
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This is my opinion only, with that being said for the average user there is no advantage to being rooted. The average user is not interested in flashing new roms or freezing apps beyond what Verizon allows. The average user wants to turn on their phone and go on their merry way. If something goes wrong they want to call Verizon and have they fix it for them. They would never touch Odin.
With that being said, because your in this forum your more than the average user. If you wan to freeze or uninstall more Verizon/Samsung bloat you need to be rooted.
As for moving to a different carrier I'll let some one who has done that chime in.
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Thanks! It won't be a Verizon phone for long, so I guess with rooting it and installing a known stable release be a good idea to get rid of Verizon's bloatware (and maybe some of Samsung's) while keeping a good, hard-working phone? I noticed a big difference disabling what I'm allowed to with Verizon's apps and maybe that's enough, I don't know - any place to research which Verizon and/or Samsung apps are safe to disable (if rooting it & installing a stable release doesn't already remove them)?
Oh, also, is there where I'll go to get future updates since I'll no longer be part of Verizon, and T-Mobile will probably not update my phone since I didn't buy it from them?
Thanks again!
Through a couple phone calls, T-Mobile reassured me both my S3 and S5 would work just fine, everything just the same except I'll have to make sure the phone is unlocked. They also said on both calls that their WiFi calling would most definitely work. Verizon, though a half dozen calls, gave me a different "unlock" story each time. So much for trying to be prepared...
Neither the S3 or the S5 work as expected. The S3 uses the far inferior network speeds and takes about 3 minutes just to send a pic text, and that's only if we're using Hangouts - stock Messages or Verizon's Messages+ don't work on the S3. The S5, I get a lot of "Data (Network) connection lost", setting the time errors, I can't access my voicemail or change my voicemail phone number (not sure if that is a new issue).
So with all this in mind:
1) is the S3 using an inferior data speed network due to hardware limitations or settings I can change?
2) would rooting my S3 and S5 alleviate a lot or all of these issues?
3) any way to get TMo WiFi calling to work on a Verizon phone? Would rooting it allow me to install a TMo version Android?
4) how do I go about updating Android on these phones now that they're off Verizon and not officially TMo phones?
5) any suggestions to fix any or all of these other issues?
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Through a couple phone calls, T-Mobile reassured me both my S3 and S5 would work just fine, everything just the same except I'll have to make sure the phone is unlocked. They also said on both calls that their WiFi calling would most definitely work. Verizon, though a half dozen calls, gave me a different "unlock" story each time. So much for trying to be prepared...
Neither the S3 or the S5 work as expected. The S3 uses the far inferior network speeds and takes about 3 minutes just to send a pic text, and that's only if we're using Hangouts - stock Messages or Verizon's Messages+ don't work on the S3. The S5, I get a lot of "Data (Network) connection lost", setting the time errors, I can't access my voicemail or change my voicemail phone number (not sure if that is a new issue).
So with all this in mind:
1) is the S3 using an inferior data speed network due to hardware limitations or settings I can change?
2) would rooting my S3 and S5 alleviate a lot or all of these issues?
3) any way to get TMo WiFi calling to work on a Verizon phone? Would rooting it allow me to install a TMo version Android?
4) how do I go about updating Android on these phones now that they're off Verizon and not officially TMo phones?
5) any suggestions to fix any or all of these other issues?
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1) probably, but I haven't checked the specs.
2) probably not. The APN in your phone needs to be changed to the right settings for your mobile carrier. It's under Settings/More Networks/Mobile Networks. You should be able to google the settings for TMo.
3) The APN may resolve the issue, if the phone allows for it.
4) If you root, you can do it. You may be able to get OTAs with the new sim, but I can't for Consumer Cellular.
5)Again, the APN will solve a lot of issues. The voicemail number needs to be changed to your carrier's voicemail number under Phone Settings.
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1) probably, but I haven't checked the specs.
2) probably not. The APN in your phone needs to be changed to the right settings for your mobile carrier. It's under Settings/More Networks/Mobile Networks. You should be able to google the settings for TMo.
3) The APN may resolve the issue, if the phone allows for it.
4) If you root, you can do it. You may be able to get OTAs with the new sim, but I can't for Consumer Cellular.
5)Again, the APN will solve a lot of issues. The voicemail number needs to be changed to your carrier's voicemail number under Phone Settings.
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1) probably hardware limitations or probably settings I can change?
2 & 3) the APN was already set by the TMo in-store rep, and google search confirms it's the correct setting.
5) voicemail number just won't change! Ug, I've google searched this issue too, no luck, and it seems many Android 5.0 users have this issue unless they factory reset - an option I'm hoping to avoid for a last resort.
I have noticed by disabling Verizon apps, much is working better, but I'm wondering if Verizon made these apps imperative for the system to run properly...?
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1) probably hardware limitations or probably settings I can change?
2 & 3) the APN was already set by the TMo in-store rep, and google search confirms it's the correct setting.
5) voicemail number just won't change! Ug, I've google searched this issue too, no luck, and it seems many Android 5.0 users have this issue unless they factory reset - an option I'm hoping to avoid for a last resort.
I have noticed by disabling Verizon apps, much is working better, but I'm wondering if Verizon made these apps imperative for the system to run properly...?
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How did you disable the apps? If you used TiBU, there have been discussion of issues in some threads.
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How did you disable the apps? If you used TiBU, there have been discussion of issues in some threads.
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I used the Android's built-in disable feature (since it won't let me uninstall it).
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I used the Android's built-in disable feature (since it won't let me uninstall it).
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The only thing I can think of then, is that one or more of the disabled features are required to make things work properly. I would unfreeze the apps and then freeze them, one-by-one to find out which are causing the issues. Other than that, Kies may be able to repair the install if you don't have luck with unfreezing the apps.
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The only thing I can think of then, is that one or more of the disabled features are required to make things work properly. I would unfreeze the apps and then freeze them, one-by-one to find out which are causing the issues. Other than that, Kies may be able to repair the install if you don't have luck with unfreezing the apps.
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Easiest step is to try the enable/disable apps as you suggested. Have you, or anyone out there, tried loading another's stock software onto a phone before doing a factory reset?
See this page: http://www.andromods.com/download-files/tmobile-galaxy-s5-stock-firmware-sm-g900t.html
It gives me the impression all S5's are the same hardware. If that's true, then why can't I install TMo's stock software in the recovery partition, then do a factory reset? (Another worse case scenario, but possibly more of a thorough cure)
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Easiest step is to try the enable/disable apps as you suggested. Have you, or anyone out there, tried loading another's stock software onto a phone before doing a factory reset?
See this page: http://www.andromods.com/download-files/tmobile-galaxy-s5-stock-firmware-sm-g900t.html
It gives me the impression all S5's are the same hardware. If that's true, then why can't I install TMo's stock software in the recovery partition, then do a factory reset? (Another worse case scenario, but possibly more of a thorough cure)
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If you read toward the end of that post, it says:
Before download check your model number and software version, head to Settings -> About. Confirm that you get the correct firmware that match with the model number of your device, and never use a firmware that isn’t built for your S5, downgrade is also not recommended.
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I've also seen a thread talking about doing this for a TMo user on the Verizon S5, but I'm on Consumer Cellular, so I'm not sure if it would really work. Even if it does, I'm not sure if that would solve your issues, and I hear you're risking bricking your phone attempting it.
Not sure if I already mentioned, but sadly a couple T-Mobile reps assured me everything would work great. Not. A factory reset did help a lot, but I keep getting these oddities that TMo is now saying I just have to live with, now that my trial period is over. So any ideas and help would be great!
"Data network unavailable" often appears after a phone call and lasts for a few seconds or longer. In that time, I can't get Maps to find anything, among other issues. This error appears at random times otherwise, but most consistently after a phone call.
"SIM error" happens periodically. I'm not sure the pattern yet, but maybe after a couple phone calls in a row, or call swapping. The only way to fix this is to reboot the phone.
The top status bar bounces between "H+" and "3G". I haven't found a pattern as to when or why, but often can't do much with the phone until it settles down, if it settles down.
Everything I've read and originally heard lead me to believe this S5 should work much better than it is, as if some APN or data setting is wrong. I've triple checked and they seem to be set properly, but I don't know anymore...
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I didnt see a thread for welcomes..
Hi! i just picked up a sprint lg g2 on a free upgrade but i do not plan on activating it yet since 4g is not currently in my area, so for now i want to use this and just a fun phone for around the house. so i have a few questions after checking out some of the stickys and i dont want to start multiple threads for single questions. if this gets moved to a different area then i understand why as well. also if my typing seems sporadic its because i am coming from a htc tp2 and this is my devirgin process on using androids and rooting. so welcome to my party of self discovery!
1)since i am not activating it can i still pull all the necessary updates for the phone itself off the wifi?
2)in this sticky http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2479892 i saw no mention of a sprint code. i dont know if i should root it yet because i am currently using a htc touchpro2 im sure the stock speed is going to blow my mind but should i still do that ^^^^ mentioned above?
3)when i got the phone the lady really tried to push the S4 on me saying that the g2 will be stuck on jellybean for 2years? does rooting fix that?
4)when i do decide to activate it, is hotspot easily achieved by an app or is their some kind of rooting that needs to be done? (i already have unlimited data plan)
5)the BB csr also mentioned titanium backup app. and i checked it out and i dont understand how it works. thts for the bloatware stuff right?
6)is it possible to get that flappybird game still? i want to play it see what the fuss is about like on youtube.
i would rather not root my phone if it will stay fast but i dont want all that clutter apps either if its like a new desktop computer that comes with free aol 3.0 and etc.
dubmang said:
I didnt see a thread for welcomes..
Hi! i just picked up a sprint lg g2 on a free upgrade but i do not plan on activating it yet since 4g is not currently in my area, so for now i want to use this and just a fun phone for around the house. so i have a few questions after checking out some of the stickys and i dont want to start multiple threads for single questions. if this gets moved to a different area then i understand why as well. also if my typing seems sporadic its because i am coming from a htc tp2 and this is my devirgin process on using androids and rooting. so welcome to my party of self discovery!
1)since i am not activating it can i still pull all the necessary updates for the phone itself off the wifi?
2)in this sticky http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2479892 i saw no mention of a sprint code. i dont know if i should root it yet because i am currently using a htc touchpro2 im sure the stock speed is going to blow my mind but should i still do that ^^^^ mentioned above?
3)when i got the phone the lady really tried to push the S4 on me saying that the g2 will be stuck on jellybean for 2years? does rooting fix that?
4)when i do decide to activate it, is hotspot easily achieved by an app or is their some kind of rooting that needs to be done? (i already have unlimited data plan)
5)the BB csr also mentioned titanium backup app. and i checked it out and i dont understand how it works. thts for the bloatware stuff right?
i would rather not root my phone if it will stay fast but i dont want all that clutter apps either if its like a new desktop computer that comes with free aol 3.0 and etc.
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1) yup
2) I personally dont adjust that simply cause the phone then feels to hot for my liking even though its safe. You can do it and if you dont notice a difference or its to hot for you, just change it back. I think the code for sprint and verizon version is 980? so... 3845#*980#
3)You can root and flash aosp (android open source project) to your phone but you may find that you like the stock software. Also kitkat will be out for our phone shortly
4) You can use a program called foxfi that you can use that will turn your phone into a hotspot and sprint wont be the wiser so you dont have to pay for tethering. Also you dont need root for foxfi.
Just play around with the stock setup and see if you like it, you may not even find the need to root. Also if you enable developer options by going to settings<about phone<software information, and click the "build number" like 6 times (the developer options menu will then be in settings<developer options), you can adjust the window animation/transition animation/animator duration to 0.5 or off to speed up the phones interface.
thanks for the fast replies!
i am trying to update prl/profile/firmware/software etc and it gives me an error. my wifi is connected and i turned off airplane mode for the updates. (i should keep airplane mode on correct so that it doesnt try to activate?)
The dialer code for sprint is 5689#*980#
The prl/profile will only update on an active phone. You have to do it manually if the phone isn't active. That said, you don't need to do it if the phone isn't active, because they are settings sent by Sprint to your phone to let it know about active cell towers and things like that.
Check the Sprint part of these forums. Most of the stuff you asked is in there in one place for another.
Side note, so you don't wonder what is going on. In the title of threads, you will see things like [kernel][rom] etc etc.. things between brackets.. The things that say [INT] stand for International. They are ports made to make the Sprint LG G2 work on GSM networks. If you install one of those rom's the phone will NOT work on Sprint. Right now, that would be no big deal for you, since the phone isn't active. But if/when you activate the phone, you can not use one of those roms and still use the phone as a phone.
should i still update my phone via the LG drivrs at least? also that dialer code does nothing with my phone. it doesnt activate the special menu. so far i havent found it but is their a list of must have apps or a list of minimal steps to get rid of the bloat without rooting? when i am in the settings>>apps menu their is a list of different google' labeled items, are all of those necessary? also someone mentioned foxfi, its only a paid app correct?
I have an ntelos S5 (G900R7). There is no development for this phone anywhere on the internet. Perhaps I can find support here?
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I have managed to successfully install Spirit Rom with full functionality, by copying my old build.prop into the system directory, and restoring my previous apn settings using the apnsbu. I forget why I left this rom, but I did. Everything I try has some problem! I then proceeded to try just CM11, by itself, and had 3g difficulties. Then, using Kushman's sprint MIUI, (Ntelos shares sprint towers) things seemed to work right, but it remapped my recent app key to menu... (perhaps I can map it back?) and the volume was not controlled by my physical volume buttons.
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Now my favorite rom so far: Mokee Rom It's fast and visually pleasing, but I have wi-fi and phone difficulties.
After imposing my APN settings, I can reproduce these effects:
(1) Before replacing build.prop, the wi-fi works and can be enabled or disabled as I need. Also, 3g works very well at nice speeds, but it says "Verizon Wireless" underneath the 3g indicator bars. However, I cannot make calls. If I attempt to do so, the 3g data stops working, turns orange, and no longer says "3g". If I do this, then no data can be transmitted or received.
(2) After Replacing build.prop with the "good original" copy (which sometimes fixes similar problems in other custom roms) the wi-fi becomes stuck in a constant state of "turning wi-fi on..." but never turns on. 3g still works, but, as in part (1), it will break if I try to make a call.'' Also, in this case it says "Sprint" instead of "Verizon Wireless"
Does any one have advice, or perhaps some build.prop settings to modify? Or maybe there's a different file that would help. Again, my phone is the SM G900R7. Has someone else with this phone had luck customizing it?
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Likewise have a nTelos S5, have not found any custom roms that can successfully be installed without data or phone issues.
Also trying to install any ASOP roms resulted with all phone efs data getting cleared.
Upon searched relentlessly the only rom I found that functions is located at
http://teamcspire.com/index.php?/topic/112-gs5-g900r7-r2-teamcspire-nd8stock-deodexed-101814/
its very stock but functions flawlessly for me.
Advise if you have any luck, I will reciprocate.
doby-nut said:
Likewise have a nTelos S5, have not found any custom roms that can successfully be installed without data or phone issues.
Also trying to install any ASOP roms resulted with all phone efs data getting cleared.
Upon searched relentlessly the only rom I found that functions is located at
http://teamcspire.com/index.php?/topic/112-gs5-g900r7-r2-teamcspire-nd8stock-deodexed-101814/
its very stock but functions flawlessly for me.
Advise if you have any luck, I will reciprocate.
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My advice is to you, is that if you install Mokee rom, do not update it with OTA update. This is what I think broke the network for me. Even after restoring my phone to factory conditions and using Kies, I still had no network. I ended up going to the nTelos store, where they had to reset the network service for my phone on their end... strange.
Anyway, I have made a few roms work, and I suspect I could make more. If you maintain your apn settings, and build.prop, you should be able to make Spirit rom work. The same thing is true for Miui. However, if I remember from my experience correctly, if you do install Miui, then I THINK you should not restore your original build.prop; it may work without it... just restore the apn settings. When you do this, you may have to change the preferred network mode... I am a little freaked out, after my previous experience with Mokee rom, to mess with this any longer, though. I do have a problem with Spirit rom: if I use the Timely alarm clock, the time panel is miscolored, but I believe that could possibly? be fixed by flashing a different kernel. I plan on flashing Spirit tonight.... stock uses up my battery too fast, and Spirit just feels more responsive.
EDIT: I just re-flashed Spirit Rom, and they fixed the discoloration in the most recent version! Also, as before, my 3g and WiFi work fine.
Took me days...
The CSpire shares the model number and ROM. The US Cellular CM11 is the closest. Somewhere in that I lost my ability to send texts (not sure if it's the SMSC or...) and didn't get it back when I ODIN'd to stock. I would LOVE to have CM support for this model.
I also am in the same boat as you guys. I would love to get another reliable ROM on this phone. I just have bad memories of purchasing my last one (Sprint GS3) from ebay, and having one hell of a time making the MMS work after flashing it for nTelos. However, I never did have to mess with any of the APNs or build.prop settings on that one. I would think the Sprint ROMs should be the closest compatible ROM, being that nTelos and Sprint do share towers in WVa and Va (Sprint actually has zero towers in these states, and leases nTelos towers instead).
Is using EFS Backup by Wanam a good method to insure the EFS does not get screwed up?
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(1) Before replacing build.prop, the wi-fi works and can be enabled or disabled as I need. Also, 3g works very well at nice speeds, but it says "Verizon Wireless" underneath the 3g indicator bars. However, I cannot make calls. If I attempt to do so, the 3g data stops working, turns orange, and no longer says "3g". If I do this, then no data can be transmitted or received.
(2) After Replacing build.prop with the "good original" copy (which sometimes fixes similar problems in other custom roms) the wi-fi becomes stuck in a constant state of "turning wi-fi on..." but never turns on. 3g still works, but, as in part (1), it will break if I try to make a call.'' Also, in this case it says "Sprint" instead of "Verizon Wireless"
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You might try saving out your wpa_supplicant file from the stock ROM and replacing it on the flashed ROM. This has worked for me before on my GS3. That might take care of the wifi anyway.
I'm also on ntelos with the s5 now. But it is a us cellular unlocked by them phone. Stuck in a ntelos sim card that I bought from store and everything works. Except 4g. I can live w/o it but it's kinda like a puzzle now. How could I enable this to work on ntelos?
Depending on where you are, ntelos does not have 4G in many places yet. It's still very spotty in West Virginia.
Has anyone taken the OTA Lollipop update? If so, how is it working and does it lock or put in a new bootloader?
I have. It's a little laggy at times, gets really hot when using it while charging and battery drains a little faster. Not sure about the bootloader
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I have. It's a little laggy at times, gets really hot when using it while charging and battery drains a little faster. Not sure about the bootloader
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I think I will hold off for a while. My stock NK1 is laggy enough as is. Damn, I wish there was a compatible ASOP ROM available for this phone.
Honestly, this Samsung G5 is the absolute worst phone I have ever owned! I would like to get a S6, but my experience has been so bad with this S5, I am almost afraid to stick with Samsung. However, my S3 was awesome!
Just found out that the heart rate sensor is active when the phone is on no matter if S Health is open or not.
I am in the Richmond area on Ntelos. They have stated they have sold their bandwidth to T-Mobile and we are to find another carrier. My phone is not even a year old and no other carrier will activate it. Being I own mine outright and paid close to $600, I am about to lose my mind knowing that I will have a shiny expensive very small tablet in a few months. Has anyone a clue how to change this phone over to GSM or something useful. Verizon refused to even try, though I know when I tried Straight Talk's Verizon Sim it did dial to Verizon's customer service. But Straight Talk nor Verizon would activate it.
Ideas and suggestions welcome.
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I am in the Richmond area on Ntelos. They have stated they have sold their bandwidth to T-Mobile and we are to find another carrier. My phone is not even a year old and no other carrier will activate it. Being I own mine outright and paid close to $600, I am about to lose my mind knowing that I will have a shiny expensive very small tablet in a few months. Has anyone a clue how to change this phone over to GSM or something useful. Verizon refused to even try, though I know when I tried Straight Talk's Verizon Sim it did dial to Verizon's customer service. But Straight Talk nor Verizon would activate it.
Ideas and suggestions welcome.
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page plus,i am an ntelos dealer and pageplus dealer i flash phones to and from both companies everyday i am in ruckersville va 12 mile north of charlottesville lemme know if you need help you right its the enitre eastern side of the companyh is gone now to tmobile but you can still activate on frawg..ive done many for customers
Thanks for the info. I am on the frawg side of things now. Their plans were too much when mine ended and I didn't need a phone at the time. Then a few years later, yeah I made my S1 last almost 4 years, I bought the S5 late last year outright. Loved the S1. Made that do everything it just did everything slow at the end.
Anyway, am glad there are options of some sort. Have been reading the reviews of pageplus. What kind of speeds are you getting on it with 4G? Their map shows coverage everywhere which makes me a bit uneasy, as in too good to be true. Is it a simple flash or require editing?
If I can't do something else with the phone, I may try the band opening options. According to the phone specs, it should already have all the Verizon bands but they refuse to activate it due to the meid it seems. I have a feeling this topic may get more viewers as the Ntelos off switch day comes closer.
Google Fit was the culprit for the heart rate sensor staying on. Un-installed it and fixed it
After all this time, has anybody found a ROM that works well on this phone?
can't get data so Internet not working on galaxy s5 unlocked already switched ntelos
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page plus,i am an ntelos dealer and pageplus dealer i flash phones to and from both companies everyday i am in ruckersville va 12 mile north of charlottesville lemme know if you need help you right its the enitre eastern side of the companyh is gone now to tmobile but you can still activate on frawg..ive done many for customers
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My internet is not working but I can get talk and text
In case nobody has seen this, there is a now a CyanogenMod 5.1.1 ROM available now for nTelos. I have been running it for 3 days now and I really like it. Good battery life too. Very stable and very speedy. There are some occasional bluetooth audio stuttering issues, but nothing terrible.
See this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...ent/unofficial-cm-12-1-g900r7-inland-t3255191
FYI, Cyanogenmod 13.0 (Android 6.0.1) is available for nTelos and C-Spire (and other) devices here. http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...ent/unofficial-cm-12-1-g900r7-inland-t3255191
Sucks for ntelos customers bring forced into sprint at least the CDMA phones and iphones are unlocked
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page plus,i am an ntelos dealer and pageplus dealer i flash phones to and from both companies everyday i am in ruckersville va 12 mile north of charlottesville lemme know if you need help you right its the enitre eastern side of the companyh is gone now to tmobile but you can still activate on frawg..ive done many for customers
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Sorry it's been a year only thing needed was a sim card and set apns it'll be 3g but beats a paper weight it'll get evdo and ehrpd speeds some cases you can get lte but very limited areas
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So I was rooting my Google store bought pixel 4 and missed a step. Needless to say I had to sideload a full ota to recover it. But I'm pretty sure I accidentally loaded the verzion version. I got all the verizon apps that showed up when I rebooted the phone. I went back and wiped everything in recovery mode and tried sideloading QD1A.190821.007.A3 and it keeps erroring out. This is the firmware that Im 90% sure what was on my phone. Is there a way to get back to factory google store firmware or am I screwed now? I am on a verizon sim but phone was bought on launch day from the google store. Its also noted that I am currently on QD1A.190821.014 firmware. This doesn't appear to be the verizon firmware.
The Verizon apps appear not based on which ROM version you load, but instead based on whether you have a Verizon SIM in the phone during setup.
If you loaded the wrong ROM onto the phone, you may not be able to recover by sideloading an OTA. You should be able to recover by doing a complete reflash of the image you want (the image version, not the OTA version).
What error is it giving you?
I cant remember the exact error but it would error out about 45% through the flashing. I am currently running QD1A.190821.014 which appears to the google FI, T'Mobile firmware. I still have the ability to turn OEM Unlock on in my settings, so it appears I am ok. I just wish they had better wording on which firmwares for the unlocked ones form the google store and others.
BubbaGumprc said:
I cant remember the exact error but it would error out about 45% through the flashing. I am currently running QD1A.190821.014 which appears to the google FI, T'Mobile firmware. I still have the ability to turn OEM Unlock on in my settings, so it appears I am ok. I just wish they had better wording on which firmwares for the unlocked ones form the google store and others.
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Regarding loading the wrong one, I did the same thing because the December update had a discrepancy between the announcement and the download page about which rom applies to which phones. I switched back and forth between QQ1B.191205.011 and QQ1B.191205.012.A1 before they finally corrected it, but everything worked fine on both versions as far as I could tell.
About the Verizon apps, if you're on Verizon or one of its MVNOs, if it installs other stuff, you'll want to leave it. Don't confuse My Verizon and My Verizon Services. My Verizon can be uninstalled, but if you mess with My Verizon Services, you'll end up losing things like wifi calling.
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Regarding loading the wrong one, I did the same thing because the December update had a discrepancy between the announcement and the download page about which rom applies to which phones. I switched back and forth between QQ1B.191205.011 and QQ1B.191205.012.A1 before they finally corrected it, but everything worked fine on both versions as far as I could tell.
About the Verizon apps, if you're on Verizon or one of its MVNOs, if it installs other stuff, you'll want to leave it. Don't confuse My Verizon and My Verizon Services. My Verizon can be uninstalled, but if you mess with My Verizon Services, you'll end up losing things like wifi calling.
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That's not true. You can go to all apps and show system. MVS can't be deleted without root but you can disable it with no adverse effects. They can't get into your device to see what you have installed and when you installed it, but who wants to give them that info anyway?
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That's not true. You can go to all apps and show system. MVS can't be deleted without root but you can disable it with no adverse effects. They can't get into your device to see what you have installed and when you installed it, but who wants to give them that info anyway?
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As of Android 8, disabling My Verizon Services doesn't permit wifi calling because it depended on that application for that functionality. It's hard to remember what else was troublesome, but I thought there was something else which didn't function once it was disabled.
I don't have wifi calling anymore on Visible, and I never used Android 9 because of the wifi scan throttling mess anyway.
Would you mind checking that your wifi calling works on your pixel 4, disabling My Verizon Services, rebooting, switching on airplane mode, then enabling wifi only, and then try making a phone call? I'm interested to know if that behavior has changed. Thanks!
Here's some more information. It certainly seems true for others as well:
https://community.verizonwireless.c...ng-since-Android-8-update/td-p/1042025/page/2
And many other XDA threads correlating the two:
https://www.google.com/search?q=sit...69i57j69i58.6651j1j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
Maybe things have changed in Android 9 or 10, but please test it out if you haven't already!
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It looks like you tested it out in another XDA thread already where others lost wifi calling when it was disabled, but you said you were still able to make wifi calls. It's strange that you're the only one who can disable My Verizon Services and make wifi calls, but others can't. Very strange.
Jon8RFC said:
As of Android 8, disabling My Verizon Services doesn't permit wifi calling because it depended on that application for that functionality. It's hard to remember what else was troublesome, but I thought there was something else which didn't function once it was disabled.
I don't have wifi calling anymore on Visible, and I never used Android 9 because of the wifi scan throttling mess anyway.
Would you mind checking that your wifi calling works on your pixel 4, disabling My Verizon Services, rebooting, switching on airplane mode, then enabling wifi only, and then try making a phone call? I'm interested to know if that behavior has changed. Thanks!
Here's some more information. It certainly seems true for others as well:
https://community.verizonwireless.c...ng-since-Android-8-update/td-p/1042025/page/2
And many other XDA threads correlating the two:
https://www.google.com/search?q=sit...69i57j69i58.6651j1j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
Maybe things have changed in Android 9 or 10, but please test it out if you haven't already!
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It looks like you tested it out in another XDA thread already where others lost wifi calling when it was disabled, but you said you were still able to make wifi calls. It's strange that you're the only one who can disable My Verizon Services and make wifi calls, but others can't. Very strange.
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My wife has a Verizon device Pixel 3 locked bl and I have a Pixel 4 and they both have MVS disabled and both can call on wifi. I just tested again to make sure. Really, I'm the only one? Gotta love that. I hate that they can get into my device without my knowing and see what and when I installed stuff.
Hello, please give a little advise.
I bought an UNLOCKED used Samsung AT&T S5e (SM-T727A), and another UNLOCKED used Samsung Sprint TAB A (2019) (SM-T517P) from eBay for my grandparents abroad in Argentina; mainly for the SIM capability to use with Whatsapp with me, and their grandkids all over the world.
I have no experience with LTE tablets, but have rooted phones here and there since 2012 thanks to you guys.
I feel very hesitant to root, or install roms on these tablets, since I won't be able to be there for them if anything happens, other than remote assistant pre-programmed for them to hit one button, but even then... the struggle a lot with basic things, and only know Whatsapp.
I have put my SIM card from T-mobile on my Note 8 here in the US on both devices, but although the T-mobile LTE text appears on top, none of the tablets changed Startup intro, or installed T-mobile apps/Removed AT&T or Sprint apps. The Sprint tablet shows an annoying Sprint OMADM notification, and the AT&T tablet won't let me use the dialer.
Both tablets can use LTE from T-mobile fine with great speeds, but need to use alternate dialer to make calls.
Should I install custom ROMS on these to remove their carrier's bloatware? Am I definitely tripping KNOX on them? Will installing these rooms, or unlocking bootloaders mess up with future updates, and leave my grandparents stranded?
Please help; what should I do?
unlocked AT&T Galaxy 727a tablet
I am wondering if you ever got a response to your questions? I too have the same tablet and I want to root it to remove the AT&T software because I also use T-Mobile. I am going to keep searching here in the forums. I don't think I want to flash a rom though as I kind of like the Samsung feel right now. Plus I only had it 2 days so far.
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Hello, please give a little advise.
I bought an UNLOCKED used Samsung AT&T S5e (SM-T727A), and another UNLOCKED used Samsung Sprint TAB A (2019) (SM-T517P) from eBay for my grandparents abroad in Argentina; mainly for the SIM capability to use with Whatsapp with me, and their grandkids all over the world.
I have no experience with LTE tablets, but have rooted phones here and there since 2012 thanks to you guys.
I feel very hesitant to root, or install roms on these tablets, since I won't be able to be there for them if anything happens, other than remote assistant pre-programmed for them to hit one button, but even then... the struggle a lot with basic things, and only know Whatsapp.
I have put my SIM card from T-mobile on my Note 8 here in the US on both devices, but although the T-mobile LTE text appears on top, none of the tablets changed Startup intro, or installed T-mobile apps/Removed AT&T or Sprint apps. The Sprint tablet shows an annoying Sprint OMADM notification, and the AT&T tablet won't let me use the dialer.
Both tablets can use LTE from T-mobile fine with great speeds, but need to use alternate dialer to make calls.
Should I install custom ROMS on these to remove their carrier's bloatware? Am I definitely tripping KNOX on them? Will installing these rooms, or unlocking bootloaders mess up with future updates, and leave my grandparents stranded?
Please help; what should I do?
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I am wondering if you ever got a response to your questions? I too have the same tablet and I want to root it to remove the AT&T software because I also use T-Mobile. I am going to keep searching here in the forums. I don't think I want to flash a rom though as I kind of like the Samsung feel right now. Plus I only had it 2 days so far.
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I am still searching, this is my first LTE tablet, and I believe we ARE NOT meant to use ROMs for the WiFi variant on it (maybe wrong), so that leaves flashing lots of ROMS out... there maybe a few out there, but I doubt many DEVs have these devices available to work on.
Anyway, I decided against flashing roms for now; my only problem with the AT&T Tablet now is that the default Google dialer will not work unless it's with AT&T, so I have to use third party dialers now... no good.
I read somewhere that you can change something called the CSC of the tablet without rooting or flashing, to maybe get rid of the AT&T bloatware, and maybe T-mobile bloatware will let me use Google dialer??? I will try putting my T-mobile SIM today, and do a factory reset of the tablet with the T-mobile SIM in it. This has worked for me in the past with phones by the way, but never tried tablets before.
I may also try using Titanium Backup, and freeze some of these apps, but that will require rooting I believe, and I don't want to do that yet because I worry that unlocking the bootloader will leave that ugly "bootloader unlocked" message on every boot.
luck?
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I am still searching, this is my first LTE tablet, and I believe we ARE NOT meant to use ROMs for the WiFi variant on it (maybe wrong), so that leaves flashing lots of ROMS out... there maybe a few out there, but I doubt many DEVs have these devices available to work on.
Anyway, I decided against flashing roms for now; my only problem with the AT&T Tablet now is that the default Google dialer will not work unless it's with AT&T, so I have to use third party dialers now... no good.
I read somewhere that you can change something called the CSC of the tablet without rooting or flashing, to maybe get rid of the AT&T bloatware, and maybe T-mobile bloatware will let me use Google dialer??? I will try putting my T-mobile SIM today, and do a factory reset of the tablet with the T-mobile SIM in it. This has worked for me in the past with phones by the way, but never tried tablets before.
I may also try using Titanium Backup, and freeze some of these apps, but that will require rooting I believe, and I don't want to do that yet because I worry that unlocking the bootloader will leave that ugly "bootloader unlocked" message on every boot.
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Have you had any luck, I also have this tablet.
I am with the same problem, I have a Galaxy Tab S5e LTE tablet (SM727A), which is unlocked, but it does not allow me to make normal calls (like a cell phone) due to the AT&T call launcher. does anyone know any way to make calls? I have the tablet outside the USA
This thread is a year and a half old without an answer, doesn't seem right, I have similar issue why no answer?
I am in the US, and I can't get calls to work with Samsung s5e SM-T727UZKAXAA Unlocked Tablet.
Ordered this tablet for my elderly mother with the idea it could basically becone a 10 inch phone for her since she has serious difficulty seeing even the largest phone displays.
I took out her Motorola One sim and inserted it into the new tablet. After all the software updates were complete, I have network connectivity, data (seems slow tbh), and can eveb send/receive texts, but it will not receive calls? This tablet has that functionality, so I'm trying to figure out what exactly I'm missing?
I am using T-Mobile, and am on the Magenta MAX plan for all 3 of my lines including this one that I tried. Any help at all appreciated, thank you.
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This thread is a year and a half old without an answer, doesn't seem right, I have similar issue why no answer?
I am in the US, and I can't get calls to work with Samsung s5e SM-T727UZKAXAA Unlocked Tablet.
Ordered this tablet for my elderly mother with the idea it could basically becone a 10 inch phone for her since she has serious difficulty seeing even the largest phone displays.
I took out her Motorola One sim and inserted it into the new tablet. After all the software updates were complete, I have network connectivity, data (seems slow tbh), and can eveb send/receive texts, but it will not receive calls? This tablet has that functionality, so I'm trying to figure out what exactly I'm missing?
I am using T-Mobile, and am on the Magenta MAX plan for all 3 of my lines including this one that I tried. Any help at all appreciated, thank you.
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Buy a global version like SM-T725 to use full feartures.
Unlock version give you Data connection, sms, but you need connect to Samsung phone to call.
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Buy a global version like SM-T725 to use full feartures.
Unlock version give you Data connection, sms, but you need connect to Samsung phone to call.
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so i had ordered one i had to cancel when i saw this post.
and wanted to ask. if there is any way to install android auto as a system app on this model?
I'm so very hesitant to even try to root my phone or do anything with it because I just don't understand Android and I don't honestly have the time to learn it right now. And I mean that literally I have so much going on with trying to teach myself auto repair and keep myself from getting towed so my dog and I will not lose our home. But it seems to me that when I took it to T-Mobile and they switched out my sim there was an improvement but whether it's not being able to make a receive calls or not being able to access mobile data and now it just being so unbelievably slow but technically functioning correctly, I still can't believe that it won't benefit from a root or flashing a universal ROM. But I just don't understand Android and my illness doesn't make it any easier to understand or handle. I can't get rid of the Sprint apps and I cannot use T-Mobile's app and I assume that's because it didn't actually flash the firmware. When my a13 screen broke, I swapped it Sim into this S7 which I was fortunate to have access to and it sort of worked but I didn't have mobile data at that time so I have to take it to T-Mobile and have them help me figure it out we changed access points and long story short I simply cannot load a T-Mobile app even now. This is obviously the results of some sort of conflict within the firmware software whatever I don't know I don't have the ability to comprehend it. But it is unlocked I see the OEM unlock option it even says it's unlocked I see T-Mobile network... You know a picture is worth a thousand words can anybody help me make this phone fully functional? It's just a few more days I'll get a benefit check and I'm getting a new phone but I guess I've become slightly spoiled because I can't handle 2 minutes to load an app in my chaotic life. But I can figure it out I believe if somebody just points me in the right direction. But I always get that one detail wrong when I try to figure it out myself.
I apologize for any rules that I might have broken because I can't seem to not break a rule when I post on forums even after reading and watching videos on forum etiquette guidelines.
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I apologize for any rules that I might have broken because I can't seem to not break a rule when I post on forums even after reading and watching videos on forum etiquette guidelines.
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Take it easy on yourself. As long as you follow the Forum Rules and Forum Etiquette linked in my signature, you should be OK. If you make a mistake, we will let you know, and if it's a genuine mistake that you don't repeat, you'll be fine.
I would like to point out that your posts are pretty hard to understand. While we can certainly empathize with what you're going through, not everything needs to be shared online, and it's hard to understand your question when there's a lot of other information to sift through. This is why we have Rule 3:
3. Post using a clear and descriptive subject and message.
You're most likely to receive a helpful answer to your question, if you use a short subject title that describes your problem and a message that explains in detail, what your problem is and what you've done to try solving it.
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So to make sure I understand what you're asking...You're trying to use your phone on the T-Mobile network, but it shows Disconnected under Mobile Network and you're unable to make calls or use data, correct?
Unlocking the bootloader shouldn't affect this, nor should the ROM if you're using the factory Galaxy S7 firmware.
When exactly did this stop working, and did you do anything to the phone that may have been related to this problem?
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Take it easy on yourself. As long as you follow the Forum Rules and Forum Etiquette linked in my signature, you should be OK. If you make a mistake, we will let you know, and if it's a genuine mistake that you don't repeat, you'll be fine.
I would like to point out that your posts are pretty hard to understand. While we can certainly empathize with what you're going through, not everything needs to be shared online, and it's hard to understand your question when there's a lot of other information to sift through. This is why we have Rule 3:
So to make sure I understand what you're asking...You're trying to use your phone on the T-Mobile network, but it shows Disconnected under Mobile Network and you're unable to make calls or use data, correct?
Unlocking the bootloader shouldn't affect this, nor should the ROM if you're using the factory Galaxy S7 firmware.
When exactly did this stop working, and did you do anything to the phone that may have been related to this problem?
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Okay, thank you. I realized I had not done a factory reset, and so I did. As expected, I now cannot use mobile data, make or receive calls. Ive only ever entered recovery mode. Never had stock firmware. And when I factory reset, as I'm entering recovery aqa plop l mb drew it looked like it was updating firmware only to be followed by the little android guy looking like he's dead with "no command" or something to thateffect. .I'm on public. The S7 is a Sprint phone, I'm on the Magenta Max plan at T-Mobile. I still have the new SIM that the rep put in at a T-Mobile store, and while I can't use data or calls, it is performing as I would expect of a phone this old. And I still have sprint apps, of course, T-Mobiles app won't stop crashing. And I just need to know a few things. It's the CSC codes I don't quite understand. If I found y exact phones model firmware on Updato where it says to make certain you download the correct firmware... will this not just reinstall Sprint Firmware. The way I interpret all the warnings is if you download g930u or g930t and flash it, you will brick the phone.
So I want to be certain, is XAA, universal?
And I'm continuing writing this reply after getting back home, I did T-Mobile's access point again and now I have the ability to text and receive texts I can go online without Wi-Fi but I cannot make calls. Modem issue correct? I just don't understand how that works with cellular. And I have this funny feeling that nobody at any T-Mobile store will know anything as much as you people do. So once again thank you so freaking much.
One more thing this means by the phrasing of it that it's not unlocked but I can unlock it right? Or is it such an old phone that its somehow is just a flick of a switch and it's unlocked?
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Okay, thank you. I realized I had not done a factory reset, and so I did.
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Why did you think you needed to? When did you do this?
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As expected, I now cannot use mobile data, make or receive calls. Ive only ever entered recovery mode.
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Meaning the device won't boot into Android anymore?
Darylzane said:
Never had stock firmware.
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What do you mean by this?
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And when I factory reset, as I'm entering recovery it looked like it was updating firmware only to be followed by the little android guy looking like he's dead with "no command" or something to thateffect.
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I'm not familiar enough with Samsung devices to know whether it should bring up the menu automatically or
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aqa plop l mb drew
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....What?
Darylzane said:
.I'm on public. The S7 is a Sprint phone, I'm on the Magenta Max plan at T-Mobile. I still have the new SIM that the rep put in at a T-Mobile store, and while I can't use data or calls, it is performing as I would expect of a phone this old.
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Okay, so you used this phone on Sprint and brought it over to T-Mobile? Sprint and TMobile are totally different networks, Sprint is (was) CDMA and TMobile is GSM. The two are not compatible. If your S7 is a Sprint specific variant (G930P) I don't think you can use it on TMobile and will have to get a new phone.
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And I still have sprint apps, of course, T-Mobiles app won't stop crashing. And I just need to know a few things. It's the CSC codes I don't quite understand. If I found y exact phones model firmware on Updato where it says to make certain you download the correct firmware... will this not just reinstall Sprint Firmware. The way I interpret all the warnings is if you download g930u or g930t and flash it, you will brick the phone.
So I want to be certain, is XAA, universal?
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There are a few CSCs, but they honestly don't matter. Just use any North American one. The CSC isn't the same as your device model. You shouldn't use G930U on anything but a G930U.
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And I'm continuing writing this reply after getting back home, I did T-Mobile's access point again and now I have the ability to text and receive texts I can go online without Wi-Fi but I cannot make calls. Modem issue correct? I just don't understand how that works with cellular. And I have this funny feeling that nobody at any T-Mobile store will know anything as much as you people do. So once again thank you so freaking much.
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Cell phones use digital radios. The modem is the chipset that handles all the wireless communication. Like I said before, it's possible that your G930P isn't compatible with the TMobile network.
My suggestion: Call T-Mobile. If they gave you the SIM knowing what phone you were going to use, they should help you get it working. It sounds to me like a network provisioning issue, and that's not something anyone here will be able to help with.
i reformatted because it was my fathers, i had **** on there i didnt need to access, see or have cluttering. and a fresh start never hurts any tech in 99% of cases in my experience. it boot just fine. but it was once again a purely sprint phone. i knew it would be, but i think i was only able to make calls because the new T-Mobile SIM was affected by the reset to Sprint variation of the stock firmware. stock is fresh from Samsung with no bloatware. no alterations, there is factory reset, and factory reset from an originally unlocked no carrier ever assigned firmware. correct me if anything is wrong there. but i do think i just need to go to tmobile again to get my phone call function back. but does this mean i can never remove the the sprint startup logo, bloatware (with is any sprint app in my mind thus not stock) And never will be able to use a t-mobile app? if my phone is version 8 oreo, the baseband or pda is the same, as is everything except the fact that my model is a 930P and not 930T then the 930T will potentially break it?
additional questions, in recovery with no bootloader what is apply update from SD or ADB, is that anything firmware related if i do another factory reset and can ODIN or the firmware itself be loaded on my sd and flash itself?
im on a laptop and thats something im more familiar with by comparison. but custom desktops are my forte. a desktop you modify all you want and you can generally very easily fix a mistake. laptops, a tiny mistake and its taken me 6 months to just today think i can save it and save myself a 1000s buck likely. im learning the true definition of proprietary gree.... ahem software and hardware. I cant install and NVIDIA 1660ti graphics driver from NVIDIA directly and unless Lenovo modifies it i lose my display and cannot see what i need to fix. this concept is my question in regards to g930p to g930 u or XAA versions. of 8.0 oreo with everything matching except nowhere on my phone is the CSC code of SPR for sprint.
lastly, my theory is that i thought tmobile bought sprint, if they did, it makes sense T-Mobile wants to slap somthing on a product or software as a big HAHA because of how customer service quality has plummeted worldwide to appalling levels. its disgusting. but ill stop there or ill write a novel on that.
regardless i thank you all for your help. i will live till i get my social security check, but i need to bring an extra two battery banks. my NOCO CAR JUMPSTARTER died trying to keep it alive for a 2 hour long appointment. todays apps just demand too much and too many apps are secretly recording, tracking, advertising and hell in all likelyhood nefariously intended functions. just think of McAfee virus, damn near impossible to get rid of and used to be harder, costs a fortune, slows your rig and a hacker still sent a power surge into my pc killing that 3K PC desktop. smart but careless cause he somehow left screenshots of the DDOS program he used when accessing my OneDrive.
i like information, sorry to blather on, most is useless probably but hopefully you find a diamond in all that rambling.