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Sorry if this was posted up already but I got an email for the Samsung update but would like to know how big of a difference it makes
+ Most actions feel smoother
+ Browser is much more stable
+ Lag and wonky cursor fixed when typing in web forms
+ Numerous small fixes and improvements throughout
- 720p high profile playback is broken
- New color scheme takes awhile to get used to
The pros outweigh the cons for me, unless a clever developer manages to get 3.2 running on the tab I don't think I'll be going back to stock HC.
I was at my local mall yesterday and saw the touch screen buttons look uglier to me I didn't get to play with there was a long line but everything looks ok but if you say its more stable ill take it I'm getting tired of how it runs slow at certain points
My thoughts: This isn't your Granny's Android tablet any more!
- Printing (but only to Samsung printers )
- Screen Capture button.
- Tilt the tablet to zoom in and out in gallery and browser.
- New notification sound.
- New graphic aesthetics in major system apps, including Settings.
- Hardware shortcut ribbon in bottom-corner pop-up. Wi-Fi, Notifications, GPS, Sound, Auto-rotate, Bluetooth, and Flight Mode.
- Graphic current screen indicator on home pages. Tap on dots to go directly to any page.
- Bottom dock bar, pops up with Task manager, Calendar, World clock, Pen memo, Calculator, and Music Player shortcuts on any screen.
- Connect to Kies via WiFi. (Kies update available)
- Move icons to other pages by tilting the tablet to pan while holding an icon.
- Videos app, Movies in Market, Samsung Apps app, Photo editor, Alarm app, and probably a few more.
Liking it so far
+System video player properly recognizes orientation! This was such an annoyance when using Samsung book cover with tilt!
+Browser annoyances fixed
+Finally an easy to access calculator
-H264 720p high profile broken. Verified in system video player as well as mobo player
-Youtube still does not recognize orientation in full screen playback.
1. More video formats now play in the video player.
2. Good news abou the UI: The GUI is more "fat finger" friendly. Bad News: As a result it's not very pretty. However, I prefer function over form so that's OK.
3. There's a pop-up app button in the bottom ribbon. Unfortunately, the only app there that I find useful is Task Manager. Too bad we can't change the apps to make it more useful.
4. Screen shot is nice. But, really, how often does one need a screen shot?
5. They changed the appearance of the buttons on the bottom left corner of the screen. The back arrow is now an arrow. However, the home button still looks like an upward pointing arrow. Too bad they didn't make that better.
6. The browser does seem snappier.
7. The market now includes Movies. Although I haven't seen anything under $3.99. I'm not going to pay $3.99 to watch something on a 10.1" screen. I'm guessing they're aiming at those who have purchased the HDMI adapter.
8. The "busy" icon is no longer two circles spinning in opposite directions. It's more like an analog clock with a spinning hour hand.
9. There's a File Manager. It's called "My Files." Took me a while to figure that out. It has a polished look. Not sure of all its capabilities yet.
10. I really like the buttons at the top of the UI to get to any 5 screens quickly. However, 5 seems to still be the limit. With direct navigation it would have been nice to have the ability to create more screens ala GO Launcer EX.
11. Calender. They did some horrible things to the calendar. I'm a graphical person. I need to see appointments in a graphical way where a longer appointment takes up more space on a calendar. I detest the Agenda style. They took that away in the week view. Agenda style only there. Daily view shows appointments graphically, but not weekly.
Additionally, the color scheme is abysmal. Violet and white. Who in their right mind chooses such a hideous color scheme without giving us the ability to change it? This just solidifies my choice of using Touchdown instead. So long Calendar.
11. When looking at the Apps screen they've taken away the "ghosted" outline of apps on the right column. That was a cool visual cue that there were more apps on the right. I liked it and could see that it was useful when new users used the Tab.
12. Live wallpapers are still as useless as they were before. It grinds the home pages to a halt. No improvement there.
13. There are more "settings" including a Power Saving panel, a Motion Settings panel, and more details about the Tab.
Anyone know if you can change out the icons/apps on the pop-up dock? There is a better calculator available for example, and I'd prefer to use the Google Music beta app instead of the default one Samsung provided.
So far, in my 10 minutes of using this update, I'm not too happy. More apps I don't use were installed and cannot be removed without rooting (My Files, Pen memo, Memo, Amazon Kindle/MP3, Words, Video). The pop-up task bar has changed. The new buttons to run wifi/gps/etc on and off is neat, but it's ugly and some functionality has been lost from that pop up like clicking on wifi no longer brings you right into wifi settings, which I find extremely annoying. The new calendar app is not as good as the old one, which is important for me. I want the old color scheme back. So far, I'd actually like to roll back. None of these quirks were reported in any reviews of the new TW update I read.
Graphics performance has been improved quite a bit as evidenced in Quadrant and a few games I've tested. The annoying gyro drift I was experiencing in NOVA 2 has also been fixed. The game actually plays quite well now, not as good as ipad2 though
Hoping we'll see an OC Kernel soon, should boost performance a bit more.
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I gotta say that Swype is fantastic. I've tried to use Swype on my phone several times over the last year or so but never could get used to it. Somehow, on the Tab, it's a much better experience. Also, it's nice to be able to move the Swype keyboard to a different position making it easy for both leftys and rightys.
+ MTP protocol improved: you can use the tablet while is connected to the PC
- I'm really dissapointed by the 720p HP ommition
Gix said:
I'm really dissapointed by the 720p HP ommition
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Have you tried Dice Player? 720p MKVs work well with it.
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.inisoft.mediaplayer.trial&feature=search_result
Topic here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1181938
The rep at the mall told me that there's this new feature that if you have an HDTV connected to the same WiFi as the tab you can watch whatever is on Tue tv on the tab so in case you have to go to the bathrrom or kitchen you can continue watching the movie or tv. I don't know useful that is but if you can watch what's on Tue tab on the tv wirelessly that would he epic
ganiman said:
Have you tried Dice Player? 720p MKVs work well with it.
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.inisoft.mediaplayer.trial&feature=search_result
Topic here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1181938
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720p High Profile H264 is broken. There are many variations of H264:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H.264/MPEG-4_AVC#Profiles
MKV is a container that can contain numerous formats of video and audio.
Yes, depending on the 720p H264 file you get, it may work as long as was encoded less then High Profile.
Why would anyone want high profile? It gives the greatest quality per bit of data at the expense of crunching power, which the tegra2 has. Somehow this update disabled high profile recognition for hw decode, no 3rd party player can fix this.
ariel123 said:
The rep at the mall told me that there's this new feature that if you have an HDTV connected to the same WiFi as the tab you can watch whatever is on Tue tv on the tab so in case you have to go to the bathrrom or kitchen you can continue watching the movie or tv. I don't know useful that is but if you can watch what's on Tue tab on the tv wirelessly that would he epic
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whatttttttt
ariel123 said:
The rep at the mall told me that there's this new feature that if you have an HDTV connected to the same WiFi as the tab you can watch whatever is on Tue tv on the tab so in case you have to go to the bathrrom or kitchen you can continue watching the movie or tv. I don't know useful that is but if you can watch what's on Tue tab on the tv wirelessly that would he epic
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I've got a TV that is on my network. Curious how that would work. I could see it working if it was running Google TV, but mine is an LG "Smart" tv. It plays videos off my shared network drive, but watching content from the TV on another device isn't something I've ever seen done. Certainly going to mess with it. Will report If I have any success.
ariel123 said:
The rep at the mall told me that there's this new feature that if you have an HDTV connected to the same WiFi as the tab you can watch whatever is on Tue tv on the tab so in case you have to go to the bathrrom or kitchen you can continue watching the movie or tv. I don't know useful that is but if you can watch what's on Tue tab on the tv wirelessly that would he epic
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wut!!!
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Gix said:
+ MTP protocol improved: you can use the tablet while is connected to the PC
- I'm really dissapointed by the 720p HP ommition
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Should we have debugging check or not for connecting via USB to transfer files? I had a problem initially connecting, I had Kies open and it said that it is not supported or cant connect. I then closed Kies, unchecked debugging, then it connected and an expolorer window opened to view files.
I tried connecting again and my tab did not show up in my computer as a drive. Rebooted tab, checked and unchecked debugging and then it worked.
Very strange, so I am not sure what I did wrong or if Kies was the problem.
Lol 4th thoughts on the update thread....
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4dthinker said:
I've got a TV that is on my network. Curious how that would work. I could see it working if it was running Google TV, but mine is an LG "Smart" tv. It plays videos off my shared network drive, but watching content from the TV on another device isn't something I've ever seen done. Certainly going to mess with it. Will report If I have any success.
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Very easily done using DLNA. The Galaxy S 1/2 devices have an app called AllShare that enables this functionality. It allows you to watch content on DLNA devices. For example, I can watch video captures on my phone on my DLNA enabled TV and vice versa.
We are still waiting on Samsung to release an AllShare app for the Tab though.
So I got my microHDMI cable and it works really good except the annoying AR problem with black bars on the sides.
I have seen people saying that video from Googles Play store does go fullscreen, but haven't seen it in action anywhere and can't try it myself because I live in Sweden.
So if Google can do it 3rd party apps should also be able to do it right? Or are they using some unofficial/undocumented API or something? I haven't seen anyone talking about this so I wan't to get some discussions going.
the_slain_man said:
So I got my microHDMI cable and it works really good except the annoying AR problem with black bars on the sides.
I have seen people saying that video from Googles Play store does go fullscreen, but haven't seen it in action anywhere and can't try it myself because I live in Sweden.
So if Google can do it 3rd party apps should also be able to do it right? Or are they using some unofficial/undocumented API or something? I haven't seen anyone talking about this so I wan't to get some discussions going.
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I haven't had a problem with anything other than sound via HDMI. My n10 desktop, google movie rentals and apps that I have run are all at full screen. I don't recall any of them using a different aspect ratio. I just got a new 55inch plasma last week and I did notice the notification bar runs off the screen slightly.
Maybe it's a setting in your tv for that device? Set the tv's settings when using that particular hdmi channel in case they are not global. Try your remote's aspect button in case it is not in the display menu. See if it displays info so you will know what resolution is being displayed?
My son's Samsung Chromebox displays at a very low resolution using hdmi on his tv. Tried every possible setting and he has the black bars on the sides and all the icons and words are so large that the menus don't fit on the screen. Real annoying and looks like an older CGA screen on a pc-xt. (like a 480dpi setting under windows) Tried every cable he could find, every tv setting and it would not display higher 720p. Nothing he could do, we just gave him our old plasma tv and the display is beautiful... Really high resolution.
Same as my tablet, no sound on either of our panasonic tv's... Others work fine... Have you tried viewing it on other tv's.... Could be something is not compatible with your tv and it is down converting the resolution?
Well, those are a couple of things I might look at... Check with others and see if it is a problem for everyone else... Does the n10 main menu show smaller as well? I just double checked and mine runs to all the edges with no "black bars".
I hope something here might help.
metaled222 said:
I haven't had a problem with anything other than sound via HDMI. My n10 desktop, google movie rentals and apps that I have run are all at full screen. I don't recall any of them using a different aspect ratio. I just got a new 55inch plasma last week and I did notice the notification bar runs off the screen slightly.
Maybe it's a setting in your tv for that device? Set the tv's settings when using that particular hdmi channel in case they are not global. Try your remote's aspect button in case it is not in the display menu. See if it displays info so you will know what resolution is being displayed?
My son's Samsung Chromebox displays at a very low resolution using hdmi on his tv. Tried every possible setting and he has the black bars on the sides and all the icons and words are so large that the menus don't fit on the screen. Real annoying and looks like an older CGA screen on a pc-xt. (like a 480dpi setting under windows) Tried every cable he could find, every tv setting and it would not display higher 720p. Nothing he could do, we just gave him our old plasma tv and the display is beautiful... Really high resolution.
Same as my tablet, no sound on either of our panasonic tv's... Others work fine... Have you tried viewing it on other tv's.... Could be something is not compatible with your tv and it is down converting the resolution?
Well, those are a couple of things I might look at... Check with others and see if it is a problem for everyone else... Does the n10 main menu show smaller as well? I just double checked and mine runs to all the edges with no "black bars".
I hope something here might help.
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I run the TV without scaling/zoom so if you don't see the bars and buttons on your screen your TV is wrongly configured. The N10 sends the unaltered 16:10 picture right to the TV thus the black bars.
I know I can probably distort the picture so it fits with the zoom feature on the TV but that is not a solution, I want a full 1920x1080 output for video-playback without any scaling and distortion of the picture. On my Xoom it would lock the apps to 1280x720 resolution so they fit the TV when you plug in the HDMI cable so if feels so stupid that they removed that feature in the never Android version the N10 runs.
No sound on Panasonic is a know problem if you search around here.
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I run the TV without scaling/zoom so if you don't see the bars and buttons on your screen your TV is wrongly configured. The N10 sends the unaltered 16:10 picture right to the TV thus the black bars.
I know I can probably distort the picture so it fits with the zoom feature on the TV but that is not a solution, I want a full 1920x1080 output for video-playback without any scaling and distortion of the picture. On my Xoom it would lock the apps to 1280x720 resolution so they fit the TV when you plug in the HDMI cable so if feels so stupid that they removed that feature in the never Android version the N10 runs.
No sound on Panasonic is a know problem if you search around here.
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You are right about the apps and the main n10 menus. But if I. Play a movie (tried ice age that came with the tablet and one I purchased off google play) they fill the screen and the info from my tv shows it at 1080p FULL. Meaning that it is not using stretch, zoom or any other screen altering settings. I don't have black line when playing movies back in the play store movie app. I do get them if I try youtube or other apps. Movies play as they are designed to on mine, completely filling the screen (on their own).
I do know about panasonic, that was my point about different equipment!
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You are right about the apps and the main n10 menus. But if I. Play a movie (tried ice age that came with the tablet and one I purchased off google play) they fill the screen and the info from my tv shows it at 1080p FULL. Meaning that it is not using stretch, zoom or any other screen altering settings. I don't have black line when playing movies back in the play store movie app. I do get them if I try youtube or other apps. Movies play as they are designed to on mine, completely filling the screen (on their own).
I do know about panasonic, that was my point about different equipment!
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Good to hear that the play store can do it. So should we ask developers to implement the same thing then? I hope it's documented by Google.
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airplay is working on the fire tv including mirror mode using AirPlay/DLNA Receiver (PRO)
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.waxrain.airplaydmr
I PAID FOR IT and then sideloaded it using root uninstaller on my phone to make a backup
launched app and made no changes to the default settings
it works perfect
note
the bbc iplayer works on my ipad too but you must enable mirror mode before playing a video the video then shows fullscreen
some times you may get audio and a black screen found if I hit home on the fire remote and then select airplay/mirror device again on ipad it plays perfect again
this black screen bug only happens in mirror mode a minor problem(just hit home and start again)
android and apple tv rolled in to one for an extra $4.90
So this is for mirroring your iPhone on the screen through the fire TV or can this mirror an android phone through the fire TV also?
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this is for iPhone/ipad ios airplay to the fire tv
not android screen mirroring
but there are some airplay type apps for music like doubletwist on android that could use this setup to play music/photos etc
but the mirroring is only for ios devices
I like this app. The developer is very responsive if there are any problems. He has fixed 2 seperate issues for me, and usually responds quickly. I had installed this app when I first got my FTV. After a few days I started getting error messages because the app wasnt installed through the Google Play store. I emailed the developer and he fixed that for me within a day.
AirBuddy for Airplay - music
Airbuddy from amazon' android appstore works great for music. Upgraded via inapp purchase - I primarily use it for music only.
How are these apps different than AllCast? I know one can cast an iDevice to your FTV but AllCast can do movies, photos & music right?
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How are these apps different than AllCast? I know one can cast an iDevice to your FTV but AllCast can do movies, photos & music right?
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Well being able to use your iOS devices and mirror it on your TV can be very handy. (in example show Safari on the TV).
I downloaded (and paid!) the pro version from the app store, extracted the .apk and sidelined the app on the Fire TV. It works, that's really cool!!
Hi!
Wilhelmus81 said:
Well being able to use your iOS devices and mirror it on your TV can be very handy. (in example show Safari on the TV).
I downloaded (and paid!) the pro version from the app store, extracted the .apk and sidelined the app on the Fire TV. It works, that's really cool!!
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Dear,
Our app has been available on Fire TV app store now. In fact, you can directly purchase it there.
WaxRain said:
Dear,
Our app has been available on Fire TV app store now. In fact, you can directly purchase it there.
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I can attest that it works great and installs painlessly from the Amazon FireTV app store. WaxRain has provided great support on the application.
I can attest that this app is awesome. Works flawlessly 99% of time. BTW, jailbreak your ios device and install movie box. Airplay on fire tv is great. MovieBox blows away XBMC in quality and stability.
Do you know if they make a similar app for android phones. I've tried a bunch and none mirror the screen they just send certain things like music and video
bubble2 said:
airplay is working on the fire tv including mirror mode using AirPlay/DLNA Receiver (PRO)
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.waxrain.airplaydmr
I PAID FOR IT and then sideloaded it using root uninstaller on my phone to make a backup
launched app and made no changes to the default settings
it works perfect
note
the bbc iplayer works on my ipad too but you must enable mirror mode before playing a video the video then shows fullscreen
some times you may get audio and a black screen found if I hit home on the fire remote and then select airplay/mirror device again on ipad it plays perfect again
this black screen bug only happens in mirror mode a minor problem(just hit home and start again)
android and apple tv rolled in to one for an extra $4.90
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based on your experience - thought I would give it a try ...
installed the (lite) version (AirPlay/DLNA Receiver (LITE)) and get this error on the Fire TV screen when I turn on the "Mirroring" option on either my iPad or iPhone
Built-in Firmware Player in your device does not support this format, Error Code: 1-00000002
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I'm trying to get the XFiinity apps to work - via AirPlay - I've tried using the builtin service on XBMC but for XFinity it doesn't work either.
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toe-rag said:
based on your experience - thought I would give it a try ...
installed the (lite) version (AirPlay/DLNA Receiver (LITE)) and get this error on the Fire TV screen when I turn on the "Mirroring" option on either my iPad or iPhone
Hi, the Lite version does not support airplay mirroring.
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Hi,
I use thise http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...plugin-20&creativeASIN=B00L5HQRGS]AirReciever
*notice 180 coins back.
It does pretty much every thing you can mirror your ipad screen and the lag is low enough so you can easely play games such as the walking dead episode 1 & 2.and other action adventure games. (the audio latency is set well below 200ms with no problems using the iPad3) besides Airplay it also supports DMR/DNLB, and if you have a MAC you can use it as a extra screen natively. this can also be done on PC using the bit limited AirParrot. And it's developed for aFTV.
mirroring lag
Does any one know if mirroring is going to be improved? There seems to be a lot of lag for games my kids play. I tried both AirPlay/DLNA Receiver (PRO) and AirReceiver but both lag with sonic transformed, bubble guppies and more
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this can also be done on PC using the bit limited AirParrot. And it's developed for aFTV.
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If you go to the app's website, you can download the "AirPinPCSender" app and install it on your Windows box. I have it on my laptop and it works flawlessly to mirror my laptop to FTV
I just purchased both a
Lenovo Pro Yoga 2
and
Macbook Air 13
Trying to decide which I like better.. while the touch screen is cool and being able to use it as a tablet is fun on the Lenovo - I've had enough wireless connectivity issues that it's been frustrating (not sure if it's windows 8.1 or the card in the computer) - but my old HP stays connected flawlessly so I know it's not the wireless.
I rec'd the Air today - so I'll play with that and make my decision. I already bought and apple TV which works well enough, but the AirParrot app can only mirror the image of the PC and leaves a bar around the entire thing - there's some pretty evident lag as well just browsing.
I originally was going to go w/ the Fire TV and just found out about this app you guys are talking about.
So, essentially I can do a Fire TV (and download the app for airplay?) and download the app to make the apple stream to Fire? I can do both Mirror and 2nd screeN?
Thanks!!
Thank you
Thank you for the idea
Anyone know of a way to mirror an android phone on the fire tv without root? I know AllCast beta can, but iirc you need root and I'm trying to to root my work phone.
Hi folks. For those of you who have this app installed could you please let me know how it good it is at Airplaying video clips captured by the IPHONE / IPAD itself? So I'm not referring to online video (such as iplayer / youtube) being sent to the device, instead I'm asking about video's actually taken on the iphone?
I shelled out for AirReceiver app and although it's good for Airplaying photos and web video content, its crap for video clips cpatured from iphone (LOTS of buffering and really slow).
Also a question for WaxRain, if I pourchase the app, how many devices can I install it on? I myself have 3 FireTVs in my house.
Thanks.
I tried to access youtube vi VR browser but the result is terrible. Anybody know how to make it work? Please.
I'd love to know too! When I read about Samsung Internet, it sounded like it would be more for 360 stuff. So I went to YouTube and loaded the Blue Angels 360 (which is awesome even w/o VR btw), and I was just watching a 2D screen. And actually, when I full-screened it, it turned into a panoramic shot 2D which was pretty weird! Samsung or someone REALLY needs to get 360 videos working! It doesn't make much sense for it to not.
Not sure if I've understood your problem correctly but it you are watching a 360 video on YouTube, where you see the full screen switch at the bottom right of the frame, at the bottom left there are 3 options - 2D, 3D and 360. Select 360 and it works fine.
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I have general problems using other VR apps. When i put my S7 Edge in the Gear VR the Oculus app starts automatically and you can't switch to any other app until you disconnect the phone from the Gear VR...
I'm setting up a Shield TV for a friend, he wnats app like All4 and ITVHub which don't officially support Android TV, so they display in the POrtrait mode. I'd like to force them to display in landscape, I found the following thread :
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/25864385/changing-android-device-orientation-with-adb
Just wanted to confirm that there's no way of doing this via settings etc on the Shield itself. I confirmed that the apps work fine in Landscape via this app:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.googlecode.eyesfree.setorientation
But I don't trust it to draw over other apps.
Bump?