Hi,
I would like to gain some information. Is there any (or is it even possible), custom rom without root?
Simply saying I would like to have a rom, doesn't matter if custom or stock, but I would like to keep TWRP recovery intact.
{NOT INTERESTED IN XPOSED MODULE CLOAKROOT etc. because it doesn't work for apps that restrict use of root access, that I'm using}
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Hi,
Ok guys so a friend of mine wanted root on his S4 Gt-i9500, which I got for him using towelroot, no problems there and for a while he was happy with the root access and getting his phone debloated and a few other bits and bobs. However now he wants to try a couple of AOSP roms, and has asked me to help, which Im happy to do.
If it was my phone I'd take my chances and see what happens but with someone elses device I feel like I should be a bit more responsible, although I have made the dangers clear.
So what I want to do Is add a custom recovery, I've done a bit of googling and I can find out how to do it easy enough when rooted the traditional way, but my concern would be will I run into any problems with the Bootloader still being locked if I just flash a twrp .img with Flashify?
Maybe I should do a full unroot, and root via CF-Root Method and then find a TWRP .tar and flash with Odin.
Not used to having the Bootloader Locked issues as I use a HTC so is an easy unlock.
Any advice people can give would be helpful, hopefully I can just use Flashify and keep it as simple as possible
Ok, just to make things crystal clear, there is a big difference between a locked (i.e. encrypted) bootloader as found on AT&T and Verizon phones, and a SEAndroid Enforcing (aka Knox) bootloader. With the former you cannot customize the firmware that came with the phone, but developers have found workarounds. With Knox, you're still able to root and install custom ROMs if desired. You simply lose the ability to use Knox, which most of the userbase doesn't care about. In HTC speak, all Galaxy S4 bootloaders except the AT&T and Verizon models are equivalent to S-Off.
For installing TWRP, downloading an image and installing through Odin will work. TWRP Manager from the Play Store can also do the job, and do it without you being connected to the PC. Once you have TWRP installed, installing a custom ROM is quick, easy, and painless. Custom ROMs are usually pre-rooted, i.e. including SuperSU or Clockworkmod Superuser. This means you won't have to root again.
Flashing the custom rom with rooting the device make the device less secure and we cannot use the internet banking applications so , can we flash the custom rom without rooting the device ! If, yes then what will be the procedure !?
altafalam540 said:
Flashing the custom rom with rooting the device make the device less secure and we cannot use the internet banking applications so , can we flash the custom rom without rooting the device ! If, yes then what will be the procedure !?
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Jajajajajaja sorry but your question is very funny????
But no, it's not possible install custom ROM without root
I would think one can flash when booted into TWRP. One needs to be unlocked though.
The custom ROM you flash does not need to be rooted either.
In fact one can boot into TWRP from fastboot. So one does not even need TWRP on the device itself.
You do not need to root your device to use a custom ROM. But if you wanna flash GApps, then you need to root your device or it may not work as intended.
Wrong, Gapps can be installed from TWRP which has unlimited access to the system partition. In that sense, TWRP is "rooted". But this has nothing to do with the installed firmware being rooted or not.
altafalam540 said:
Flashing the custom rom with rooting the device make the device less secure and we cannot use the internet banking applications so , can we flash the custom rom without rooting the device ! If, yes then what will be the procedure !?
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Wow this thread exploded with mis-information.
You can install custom ROM's unto your device via TWRP, as well as flash GAPPS and any custom kernels, mods etc you'd like WITHOUT having to gain superuser access within the ROM itself.
You WILL however require to unlock your bootloader that, at least as far as I know, WILL trigger safety net and thus render certain applications (like said banking apps) unusable. To avoid this you can flash magisk, an alternative root solution that also masks certain aspects of the device that allows the device to pass safetynet while retaining root.
There are plentiful amounts of tutorials out pretty much everywhere that will allow you to easily unlock your bootloader, install twrp and root w/ magisk if desired, etc.
DECHTECH said:
Wow this thread exploded with mis-information.
You can install custom ROM's unto your device via TWRP, as well as flash GAPPS and any custom kernels, mods etc you'd like WITHOUT having to gain superuser access within the ROM itself.
You WILL however require to unlock your bootloader that, at least as far as I know, WILL trigger safety net and thus render certain applications (like said banking apps) unusable. To avoid this you can either A. Relock your bootloader after flashing custom rom (should work) or B. Flash magisk, an alternative root solution that also masks certain aspects of the device that allows the device to pass safetynet while retaining root.
There are plentiful amounts of tutorials out pretty much everywhere that will allow you to easily unlock your bootloader, install twrp and root w/ magisk if desired, etc.
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I don't think you can relock the bootloader when on a custom rom. This will probably brick your device since it will fail the checks of the locked bootloader and then you will have a bricked device with a locked bootloader.
So yeah, you also spread some misinformation I suppose which is even more dangerous than what the other users suggested.
+1, no way you can relock your bootloader after installing a custom firmware. Bootloop guaranteed.
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I don't think you can relock the bootloader when on a custom rom. This will probably brick your device since it will fail the checks of the locked bootloader and then you will have a bricked device with a locked bootloader.
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Lannig said:
+1, no way you can relock your bootloader after installing a custom firmware. Bootloop guaranteed.
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Could have sworn you could do this but I guess I was wrong, sorry for that.
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I'm planning to use this phone as a dedicated gaming device but there are games that still won't work even with magisk hide. Thanks!
If your N4 doesn't pass "Safety Net Check" that might be the reason. Download an app from Google PS to find out if Magisk Hide works as intend. If you have Xposed framwork or a permissive custom kernel, chances are you will not pass saftey Net Checks.
I know for my n910p there are stock debloated roms. Another option is to install TWRP on a stock rom and flash a debload scrip .zip.
Hi,
I recently came up with the idea of installing the Stock Firmware on my S8, along with TWRP, but without root or anything like that.
Basically I just want Stock ROM + TWRP.
Will this limit the system in any way? Will banking apps still work, can I still get OTA updates, etc.?
Sleage said:
Hi,
I recently came up with the idea of installing the Stock Firmware on my S8, along with TWRP, but without root or anything like that.
Basically I just want Stock ROM + TWRP.
Will this limit the system in any way? Will banking apps still work, can I still get OTA updates, etc.?
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Will this limit the system in any way? - Generally no but Knox related apps won't work like secure folder, shealth, samsung pass etc. Tripping your knox is permanent and can not be fixed.
Will banking apps still work - I can't say to many banks apps out there but i would say generally yes.
can I still get OTA update - No not with TWRP installed. You will have to manually update the device.
The problem with TWRP is it can't read encrypted devices. This is why you need to format data in TWRP to unencrypt your device. So backup your phone before formatting data.
New to rooting and all that stuff, have some basic knowledge, and successfully rooted my A20e with a stock rom and Magisk.
Now I'm trying to boost the performance, as I can't play anything that's more resource consuming for more then 1h without many lagspikes, and wanted to try the Eureka kernel, but I can't use the recovery mode as that was changed by Magisk, and I'm not sure if it even works properly since whenever I start in recovery the touchscreen doesn't work, yet the root work in normal mode except that I can't modify anything in the system folders within apps like Root Browser, i. e. can't change the permissions.
So is it possible to install the kernel though Odin or something else external?
And do any custom ROMs improve performance?