So I decided to try the upgrade to Lollipop OA8. Immediately batter life went from over a day per charge to barely 10 hours. Disabled S Health and bloat, even completely wiped device & SD card memory without any success. I even flashed non-rooted OA8 doing a full factory reset without any success in regards to battery life.
So I downgraded back to NK2, which I was phenomenal battery life. Not this time. I'm still receiving the same horrific battery life I was receiving with OA8. Android System is the culprit in both OA8 and NK2. I just recently reflashed NK2 with a full wipe and did not reinstall any apps or updates and I'm still seeing the poor battery life. I'm currently just over 4 hours on battery (from full charge) and already at 49% with Android System using nearly 60%. I'm completely stock with no root or apps!
Has anyone else have this issue? I can't see the OA8 update physically screwing up the device, but I suppose anything's possible when VZW gets their hands on things. I thought about wiping and contacting VZW to send me a replacement but I can only assume it would be shipped with OA8, which I do not want!
Suggestions?
Nobody else having this problem?
I just don't get it. My wife's S5, which was never upgraded to Lollipop has phenomenal battery life, much like mine prior to trying OA8. She's currently at 31% at nearly 20 hours and 2.5 hours screen time. I'm at 29% with just under 7 hours and 1.5 hours screen time. I'm refusing to let her upgrade her S5 for this very reason! What could cause this? I'm really tired of being tethered to a charger. I have a second battery and it's doing it on that one as well. Nothing really stands out other than "Android System" using more battery than "Screen", which was always the case, although my wife's phone shows the same.
Verizon won't even swap the phone because they call it a software issue and a new phone will do the same thing (what?), plus their new phones, according to the CSR the new phones already have OA8 installed.
I'll tell you what, I'm done with Samsung. I wish I could say I would be done with VZW also, but they're really the only one in the area with decent coverage. AT&T is close and actually has more tower saturation, but signals stink. TMO has barely any service and no LTE, and Sprint just sucks even on a full signal.
EDIT: I tried a last-ditch effort and so far it's paying off. I decided to ODIN all the way back to NCG and let the phone update to NK2. Then rooted and installed my apps. So far so good. Overnight, even with nearly 2 hours of screen time battery is at 55% and just over 10 hours of battery life. I call that a success!
So, if you're having the same issue, be sure to ODIN all the way back to the original NCG and let the phone update to NK2 (or NK7 if you wish). The NCG ODIN .tar.md5 file contains files that are not included with the later ODIN files which also completely wipes the phone. Customize, root & install files once you reach NK2 or NK7.
I have a buddy who took OA8 OTA on a stock phone. Apparently OA8 cannot be rooted. Can we just Odin downgrade his stock, non-rooted phone?
If you read what I posted you'd see that I have successfully used Odin to perform the downgrade.
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knowcontrol said:
I have a buddy who took OA8 OTA on a stock phone. Apparently OA8 cannot be rooted. Can we just Odin downgrade his stock, non-rooted phone?
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OA8 is rootable. You just have to downgrade to NCG. Root your phone, then upgrade back to OA8 using this method.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/ver...l/how-to-update-to-g900vvru1boa8-5-0-t3020546
RyanThaDude said:
If you read what I posted you'd see that I have successfully used Odin to perform the downgrade.
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Thank you. Yes, I saw that but it wasn't clear if you were stock prior and if you were rooted prior. This is good news.
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Tulsadiver said:
OA8 is rootable. You just have to downgrade to NCG. Root your phone, then upgrade back to OA8 using this method.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/ver...l/how-to-update-to-g900vvru1boa8-5-0-t3020546
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Thank you very much for the reply and link, it's difficult to find a needle in this sea of information.
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Thank you. Yes, I saw that but it wasn't clear if you were stock prior and if you were rooted prior. This is good news.
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Thank you very much for the reply and link, it's difficult to find a needle in this sea of information.
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No problem. In the original post in the above link, skip down to "notes #5". This will tell you how to start from an unrooted phone.
A few quick questions.
After flashing NCG in Odin, should we flash the NCG Kernel? What about the NCG modem?
After flashing NCG, do we need to have the phone fully boot before we go back to Odin to flash NK2 or can we just stay in Odin after flashing NCG and immediately flash NK2? Same questions - what about the NCG/NK2 Kernel and modems?
Oh. Assuming I get him onto NCG and rooted, at what point do you lose root? Is that during the Odin flash or when doing a full wipe in Safestrap? Sorry, dumb question - it has just been awhile since I've done these similar steps for my own S4.
knowcontrol said:
A few quick questions.
After flashing NCG in Odin, should we flash the NCG Kernel? What about the NCG modem?
After flashing NCG, do we need to have the phone fully boot before we go back to Odin to flash NK2 or can we just stay in Odin after flashing NCG and immediately flash NK2? Same questions - what about the NCG/NK2 Kernel and modems?
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What firmware do you want to end up on? If you do not yet have root, then In Odin you flash the NCG file located in the notes #5 as indicated above. Your phone will reboot and you will be on NCG. You should have towelroot already downloaded onto your ext SD card ( safestrap 3.75 as well). Root your phone with towelroot " make it rain". Install busy box and SuperSU from the play store if you don't already have them on your ext SD card as well. Safestrap comes last. You are now rooted on NCG. Keep in mind that all the files mentioned in the beginning of the post should already be on your computer. Go into download mode and follow the rest of the post. There are no modems to flash. Not sure if this answers your questions.
Oh. Assuming I get him onto NCG and rooted, at what point do you lose root? Is that during the Odin flash or when doing a full wipe in Safestrap? Sorry, dumb question - it has just been awhile since I've done these similar steps for my own S4.
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Tulsadiver said:
What firmware do you want to end up on? If you do not yet have root, then In Odin you flash the NCG file located in the notes #5 as indicated above. Your phone will reboot and you will be on NCG. You should have towelroot already downloaded onto your ext SD card ( safestrap 3.75 as well). Root your phone with towelroot " make it rain". Install busy box and SuperSU from the play store if you don't already have them on your ext SD card as well. Safestrap comes last. You are now rooted on NCG. Keep in mind that all the files mentioned in the beginning of the post should already be on your computer. Go into download mode and follow the rest of the post. There are no modems to flash. Not sure if this answers your questions.
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I'd like to get him on the last KitKat update (which I understand to be NK2?) and get him on a good debloated custom ROM. He does not like Lollipop at all! And yes, thank you for the breakdown - those are the very steps that I'm putting into a document for him to follow. These are all very similar steps to my own S4 so it's not too unfamiliar.
knowcontrol said:
Oh. Assuming I get him onto NCG and rooted, at what point do you lose root? Is that during the Odin flash or when doing a full wipe in Safestrap? Sorry, dumb question - it has just been awhile since I've done these similar steps for my own S4.
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I'd like to get him on the last KitKat update (which I understand to be NK2?) and get him on a good debloated custom ROM. He does not like Lollipop at all! And yes, thank you for the breakdown - those are the very steps that I'm putting into a document for him to follow. These are all very similar steps to my own S4 so it's not too unfamiliar.
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I'm on NI2 and it is my favorite. You don't lose root. That is what SuperSU is for. After getting root on NGC, follow these instructions.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-galaxy-s5/general/how-to-update-to-g900vnk7-4-4-4-t3037902
Update: I got my buddy downgraded, rooted and then upgraded to Optimal ROM successfully! He's loving it so far. Thanks to the both of you, I really appreciate it!
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First off let me say I am a noob I have rooted several phones but just stay stock and do simple mods.... that said....
I got my s4 a week ago, didn't know there was the mf9 update available, so I rooted my phone (on mdl), with CF-Auto Root.
Did the hotspot mod, did a camera tweak, got xposed installer, prl write enable...that's all I've done.
I want to upgrade to MF9 (since I keep getting "message unresponsive" on MDL which it's supposed to fix) ...
I've read the the threads and it seems a lot of people are getting stuck and things occurring when they go from rooted MDL to MF9
so I need help please =DDD
Right now I am
Kernel
Linux version 3.4.0-529760
I tried to be as descriptive as I could since I don't want to run in to any problems..
I want to be able to add all the stuff I currently have on my phone but I don't care if the memory is lost since I can just add it again..
I would REALLY appreciate some help!! since I just got the phone and I don't want to brick it
P.S I got the "system update" notification on my phone telling me to install regarding MF9, would I be able to do it that way and then root (since it would unroot my phone)???
I did that with the s3 and I was unable access root again, it just said I was rooted but I really wasn't....
Or should I unroot, update mf9, then root again?? Is that easier??
helpp!!! Again I read the threads but it dooesn't seem anyone is my situation
Glitterloveglamour said:
First off let me say I am a noob I have rooted several phones but just stay stock and do simple mods.... that said....
I got my s4 a week ago, didn't know there was the mf9 update available, so I rooted my phone (on mdl), with CF-Auto Root.
Did the hotspot mod, did a camera tweak, got xposed installer, prl write enable...that's all I've done.
I want to upgrade to MF9 (since I keep getting "message unresponsive" on MDL which it's supposed to fix) ...
I've read the the threads and it seems a lot of people are getting stuck and things occurring when they go from rooted MDL to MF9
so I need help please =DDD
Right now I am
Kernel
Linux version 3.4.0-529760
I tried to be as descriptive as I could since I don't want to run in to any problems..
I want to be able to add all the stuff I currently have on my phone but I don't care if the memory is lost since I can just add it again..
I would REALLY appreciate some help!! since I just got the phone and I don't want to brick it
P.S I got the "system update" notification on my phone telling me to install regarding MF9, would I be able to do it that way and then root (since it would unroot my phone)???
I did that with the s3 and I was unable access root again, it just said I was rooted but I really wasn't....
Or should I unroot, update mf9, then root again?? Is that easier??
helpp!!! Again I read the threads but it dooesn't seem anyone is my situation
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Wrong section....please use the "Sprint Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting" section of the Sprint Galaxy S4 Forums
Oooh you are in big trouble. Lol, I kid, I kid... A Moderator will move this. It is in the wrong section... But while I'm here, use superSU to unroot (there is a setting in it to unroot) reverse any mods, you have got to be 100% stock. Stock kernel, stock recovery, and everything has to match....In download mode if it says you have anything but a zero count, and, or if it says custom, use triangle away to clear the flash count, and if you have custom in about phone.
Once you are unrooted, and everything is stock, do a factory reset, I read you should do it 2 our 3 times. Only when it is like it was when you got it, accept the MF9 update, then root, and you will be all good
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cerj said:
Oooh you are in big trouble. Lol, I kid, I kid... A Moderator will move this. It is in the wrong section... But while I'm here, use superSU to unroot (there is a setting in it to unroot) reverse any mods, you have got to be 100% stock. Stock kernel, stock recovery, and everything has to match....In download mode if it says you have anything but a zero count, and, or if it says custom, use triangle away to clear the flash count, and if you have custom in about phone.
Once you are unrooted, and everything is stock, do a factory reset, I read you should do it 2 our 3 times. Only when it is like it was when you got it, accept the MF9 update, then root, and you will be all good
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is that one of the easiest ways to just go back to stock then upgrade then root again?
I found the following way to be simple and it worked:
1. Flash your phone with the Samsung MDL tar using Odin. Reboot.
2. Perform a factory reset from Settings. Reboot.
3. Go into stock recovery and flash the official MDL to MF9 zip file from a microSD card. Reboot.
4. To get root back, flash a custom recovery of your choice with Odin.
5. Within custom recovery, flash the latest SuperSU zip. Reboot.
You should now be rooted and you can start modding.
If you are staying stock rooted this is by far the easiest way: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2357471
No reason to even mess with flashing the OTA push.
I ended up doing an unroot flash stock, factory reset. Add mf9. Cf root
and now im on mf9 rooted
it seems like the hard method mostly that stock took like 2 hours to download
cerj said:
Oooh you are in big trouble. Lol, I kid, I kid... A Moderator will move this. It is in the wrong section... But while I'm here, use superSU to unroot (there is a setting in it to unroot) reverse any mods, you have got to be 100% stock. Stock kernel, stock recovery, and everything has to match....In download mode if it says you have anything but a zero count, and, or if it says custom, use triangle away to clear the flash count, and if you have custom in about phone.
Once you are unrooted, and everything is stock, do a factory reset, I read you should do it 2 our 3 times. Only when it is like it was when you got it, accept the MF9 update, then root, and you will be all good
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Xparent Skyblue Tapatalk 2
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Is this the order these steps should be done in?
ok so ive been searching all day on what to do i have a note 3 verizon that i rooted via root de la vega and now am just getting around to messing with my phone again and cant seem to unroot so i can recieve ota i have download a stock mi9 tar file but everytime i try to put it into odin it stops responding and odin closes im on odin 3.09 and i download the mi9 file from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2528707 any help would be great beings as i cant seem to figure it out
petec920 said:
ok so ive been searching all day on what to do i have a note 3 verizon that i rooted via root de la vega and now am just getting around to messing with my phone again and cant seem to unroot so i can recieve ota i have download a stock mi9 tar file but everytime i try to put it into odin it stops responding and odin closes im on odin 3.09 and i download the mi9 file from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2528707 any help would be great beings as i cant seem to figure it out
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Just flash the stock MJE file in odin and call it a day...no need to OTA.
droidstyle said:
Just flash the stock MJE file in odin and call it a day...no need to OTA.
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got it thanks idk if it was a bad downalod or what but when it finally loaded the file doing all updates now thanks much sorry for pointless post so to speak
The way posted above is what I would also call the best way. Or if you aren't lacking anything I would just stay on MI9. You have the most freedom and options to move to any firmware in the off chance some type of unlock occurs. I haven't found any new features or improvements on the new firmwares other than Verizon's gift of more bloatware, but as always YMMV.
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petec920 said:
got it thanks idk if it was a bad downalod or what but when it finally loaded the file doing all updates now thanks much sorry for pointless post so to speak
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Not pointless...we are here to help
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changt34x said:
The way posted above is what I would also call the best way. Or if you aren't lacking anything I would just stay on MI9. You have the most freedom and options to move to any firmware in the off chance some type of unlock occurs. I haven't found any new features or improvements on the new firmwares other than Verizon's gift of more bloatware, but as always YMMV.
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MI9 had signal and wifi issues...I strongly suggest upgrading to MJE.
I'm in the same boat -- on MI9 and rooted via root de la vega -- but I unfortunately deleted some bloatware apps that I don't have backups for. Would flashing the stock MJE file in odin work in my case as well? Any guidance appreciated.
Deleting that bloatware sure felt satisfying at the time.
droidstyle said:
Not pointless...we are here to help
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MI9 had signal and wifi issues...I strongly suggest upgrading to MJE.
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MJE has those same WiFi issues for me and a whole lot of other people.
★NOTE 3★ ☛RETAIL☚ {HYPER?DRIVE} ??VZW?
Billyjack555 said:
I'm in the same boat -- on MI9 and rooted via root de la vega -- but I unfortunately deleted some bloatware apps that I don't have backups for. Would flashing the stock MJE file in odin work in my case as well? Any guidance appreciated.
Deleting that bloatware sure felt satisfying at the time.
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Never delete...buy the app titanium backup pro and freeze apps, that way if you accidently freeze something that you wish you had not, you can always defrost it.
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mwebb34 said:
MJE has those same WiFi issues for me and a whole lot of other people.
★NOTE 3★ ☛RETAIL☚ {HYPER?DRIVE} ??VZW?
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Did you go into service mode and turn off wifi power save?
droidstyle said:
Never delete...buy the app titanium backup pro and freeze apps, that way if you accidently freeze something that you wish you had not, you can always defrost it.
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Did you go into service mode and turn off wifi power save?
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yep! that didnt help me at all! Although some people says turning off the WiFi power saving mode works. It may work for them but not me. I also tried unchecking the Auto Network Switch with no luck. I want a different phone.
petec920 said:
ok so ive been searching all day on what to do i have a note 3 verizon that i rooted via root de la vega and now am just getting around to messing with my phone again and cant seem to unroot so i can recieve ota i have download a stock mi9 tar file but everytime i try to put it into odin it stops responding and odin closes im on odin 3.09 and i download the mi9 file from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2528707 any help would be great beings as i cant seem to figure it out
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changt34x said:
The way posted above is what I would also call the best way. Or if you aren't lacking anything I would just stay on MI9. You have the most freedom and options to move to any firmware in the off chance some type of unlock occurs. I haven't found any new features or improvements on the new firmwares other than Verizon's gift of more bloatware, but as always YMMV.
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droidstyle said:
Not pointless...we are here to help
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MI9 had signal and wifi issues...I strongly suggest upgrading to MJE.
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Billyjack555 said:
I'm in the same boat -- on MI9 and rooted via root de la vega -- but I unfortunately deleted some bloatware apps that I don't have backups for. Would flashing the stock MJE file in odin work in my case as well? Any guidance appreciated.
Deleting that bloatware sure felt satisfying at the time.
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I'm also on MI9, because I was not getting the wifi issues, LTE network issues, call and sound quality isssues. I've decided to stay on MI9 because if at anytime I can just ODIN to MJ7 or MJE. But not the other way around. I guess it really depends on your area that you live and so far Chicago with Band 4 LTE- AWS is doing ok on stock MI9
droidstyle said:
Never delete...buy the app titanium backup pro and freeze apps, that way if you accidently freeze something that you wish you had not, you can always defrost it.
I actually had a backup on my sd card but inadvertently lost it when I used it in another device and reformatted it. For folks with deleted system apps for which backups aren't an option, is there a path forward to update? Or am I just destined to stay on MI9? I'm actually happy with MI9 and haven't had the call quality/wifi issues, but am looking ahead to the kitkat update.
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Billyjack555 said:
droidstyle said:
Never delete...buy the app titanium backup pro and freeze apps, that way if you accidently freeze something that you wish you had not, you can always defrost it.
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I actually had a backup on my sd card but inadvertently lost it when I used it in another device and reformatted it. For folks with deleted system apps for which backups aren't an option, is there a path forward to update? Or am I just destined to stay on MI9? I'm actually happy with MI9 and haven't had the call quality/wifi issues, but am looking ahead to the kitkat update.
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You can dig the missing system app .apk, .odex files out of the Odin MI9 tarball and put them back in place. They will be in the system.img.ext4 image file... which needs to be uncompressed using the Android SDK tool "simg2img", and then loopback mounted.
There is a way to do this using Windows (I think I saw a thread over in the 2012 Nexus 7 forum documenting that procedure), but frankly that's just lame for an Android rooter to behave that way
Or you can make a TiBu Market App/Data backup, use Odin or Kies to install the latest release, re-root and TiBu restore.
BTW (for the future) you can debloat without removing any files by simply 'chmod 000' the targeted .apk & .odex files and reboot. Or you can use Android's built in app disable feature (for foreground apps). This has the same effect as removal, except that you can re enable them anytime you want. The only downside to doing this is if you are tight on space in /system and want to install stuff as system apps so they will survive a factory reset procedure.
good luck
bftb0 said:
You can dig the missing system app .apk, .odex files out of the Odin MI9 tarball and put them back in place. They will be in the system.img.ext4 image file... which needs to be uncompressed using the Android SDK tool "simg2img", and then loopback mounted.
There is a way to do this using Windows (I think I saw a thread over in the 2012 Nexus 7 forum documenting that procedure), but frankly that's just lame for an Android rooter to behave that way
Or you can make a TiBu Market App/Data backup, use Odin or Kies to install the latest release, re-root and TiBu restore.
BTW (for the future) you can debloat without removing any files by simply 'chmod 000' the targeted .apk & .odex files and reboot. Or you can use Android's built in app disable feature (for foreground apps). This has the same effect as removal, except that you can re enable them anytime you want. The only downside to doing this is if you are tight on space in /system and want to install stuff as system apps so they will survive a factory reset procedure.
good luck
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Thanks so much for the response. Just wondering -- would simply returning to stock using this method, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2483380, do the trick?
Billyjack555 said:
Thanks so much for the response. Just wondering -- would simply returning to stock using this method, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2483380, do the trick?
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The thread you refer to above recommends Root de La Vega following return to Stock via Odin. I thought I saw comments to the effect that on newer VSGN3 releases (e.g. MJE) that rooting method trips the Knox warranty "fuse".
(Somebody correct me if I am wrong about that).
The other thread you are (cross-) posting in, namely az_biker's thread
***Note 3 Root - Recovery - Roms*** step by step
also uses Odin to perform the return-to-stock step, but suggests rooting with Kingo. It will certainly work. (I'm frankly not sure about the security risks of using Kingo).
If you are currently on MJE, you probably have to use the MJE Odin tarball for return-to-stock.
good luck
bftb0 said:
The thread you refer to above recommends Root de La Vega following return to Stock via Odin. I thought I saw comments to the effect that on newer VSGN3 releases (e.g. MJE) that rooting method trips the Knox warranty "fuse".
(Somebody correct me if I am wrong about that).
The other thread you are (cross-) posting in, namely az_biker's thread
***Note 3 Root - Recovery - Roms*** step by step
also uses Odin to perform the return-to-stock step, but suggests rooting with Kingo. It will certainly work. (I'm frankly not sure about the security risks of using Kingo).
If you are currently on MJE, you probably have to use the MJE Odin tarball for return-to-stock.
good luck
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Thanks. I guess I was looking for an easier solution since digging out the system apps from the MI9 tar file increases the margin of error on my end. I'm not expecting to keep root after flashing the tar files, so that's not a concern for me. In reading through the threads it seems that Odin'ing the tar files is the closest thing to a "cure all" if you've messed up your phone somehow. In going through the various threads, your first statement is consistent with what I've deduced -- that for MJ7 and MJE, Root de La Vega isn't an option, only Kingo.
Billyjack555 said:
Thanks. I guess I was looking for an easier solution since digging out the system apps from the MI9 tar file increases the margin of error on my end. I'm not expecting to keep root after flashing the tar files, so that's not a concern for me. In reading through the threads it seems that Odin'ing the tar files is the closest thing to a "cure all" if you've messed up your phone somehow. In going through the various threads, your first statement is consistent with what I've deduced -- that for MJ7 and MJE, Root de La Vega isn't an option, only Kingo.
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It is possible that you could point Odin at a tar file containing only the MI9 system.img.ext4 file to perform a "dirty flash" on top of your existing setup. I've never tried that, so I'm hesitant to recommend it 100%.
But if it worked it would mean that you wouldn't lose all your apps, data, and configurations. And then you could just use the OTA process to upgrade from MI9. You wouldn't be rooted any longer, but you could certainly re-root if you changed your mind.
as thread states. I used kingoroot to root my phone. now I need to unroot my phone. I have went into safestrap and deleted the custom rom. I kept my stock firmware in the number 1 spot and have went back to it. So phone looks standard stock and essentially is. (bloatware etc) however the phone is still rooted. What steps do I take considering I used kingoroot to get unroot and be able to update THROUGH vzw to latest firmware?
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as thread states. I used kingoroot to root my phone. now I need to unroot my phone. I have went into safestrap and deleted the custom rom. I kept my stock firmware in the number 1 spot and have went back to it. So phone looks standard stock and essentially is. (bloatware etc) however the phone is still rooted. What steps do I take considering I used kingoroot to get unroot and be able to update THROUGH vzw to latest firmware?
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Odin back to stock with these files.
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Open the supersu app and go to settings and scroll down to the cleanup section and hit Full unroot. I would just use Odin because OTA might recognize you were rooted and softbrick the phone.
Thanks for your help!
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hi guys. I am in desperate need of help. I wanted to try using a custom rom for my phone and tried using safestrap 3.72. It didnt work, but then i found 3.75 on apotoide. I installed the recovery, rebooted, the continue/recovery menu did not pop up and i went into my regular rom (4.4.2 kitkat) and all my uis and touchwiz stopped. i tried to go into recovery mode and now im stuck in the menu with a screen saying "System software not authorized by Verizon Wireless has been found on your phone. Please turn off your phone and go to the nearest Verizon Wireless store for help. Ive looked around and people have said to try odin. im very new to this so i dont really know where to start. Im willing to do anything, even if it means just simply factory resetting my phone.
I've only used odin once. It reinstalls firmware (like a factory reset). It worked like a charm. I followed the steps here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2576104
There may be an easier solution and this won't even work if you cannot get to download mode in your phone so you may want to wait for a more experienced user for more specific help.
recDNA said:
I've only used odin once. It reinstalls firmware (like a factory reset). It worked like a charm. I followed the steps here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2576104
There may be an easier solution and this won't even work if you cannot get to download mode in your phone so you may want to wait for a more experienced user for more specific help.
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thanks. i did get into download mode. im going to try the link you sent
Of course you need to follow all the steps which will include installing odin into your computer and downloading the right firmware. The newest is nc4.
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I assume you cannot boot up phone normally. If you could you just had to open safestrap app (not the recovery). Choose uninstall recovery. Then phone is back to normal. Reboot. Should boot normally with no custom recovery Then open safestrap app install recovery and choose the 3.75 instead of 3.72.
recDNA said:
Of course you need to follow all the steps which will include installing odin into your computer and downloading the right firmware. The newest is nc4.
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I assume you cannot boot up phone normally. If you could you just had to open safestrap app (not the recovery). Choose uninstall recovery. Then phone is back to normal. Reboot. Should boot normally with no custom recovery Then open safestrap app install recovery and choose the 3.75 instead of 3.72.
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i have installed odin and nc4. i just gotta wait for the dl to finish
i was able to normal boot my phone but all the processes keep crashing so i cant even reach my lock screen. this seems to be my option at the moment
Ok, that should do the trick. I haven't tried towelroot yet. Of course you'll need to root again so let me know how you make out.
I originally rooted with kingo but I have a new phone now in nc4 so I do not think kingo works and not sure if towelroot does.
recDNA said:
Ok, that should Do the trick. I haven't tried towelroot yet. Of course you'll need to root again so let me know how you make out.
I originally rooted with kingo but I have a new phone now in nc4 so I do not think kingo works and not sure if towelroot does.
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Sorry I completely forgot to respond here again. So I did the Odin thing. I still had all my uis crashing but I was able to go into recovery mode without the software thing popping up anymore so I decided to factory reset now. Didn't lose much at all really. All my important stuff was on the SD card. I then downloaded towelroot so my phone is rooted again.
So everything's fine now. Thanks again for your help
Excellent. I wasn't sure towelroot would work after installing NC4. Now I know I can root again if I want to but all my backups are useless because I was in jellybean then.
Hi. Couple years back, I used Towelroot to mindlessly root my SM-G900V on version 4.4.2 (no CWM, stock bootloader, locked, thanks Verizon!). Google Now crashes the minute I open it and I figure it's time to update from 4.4.2 to 5 or whatever is stable these days. I'm paranoid to do this without running it by you gurus here, because I don't want to lose root, brick my phone, or turn it into a flaming fireball of doom. Can someone point me to a thread I overlooked or just type a few easy-to-follow steps with link to ROM so I can upgrade my Galaxy S5?
Is a downgrade back to 4.4.2 possible if I don't like the upgrade?
Thanks in advance!
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Can someone point me to a thread I overlooked
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/ve.../testers-required-easier-root-method-t3561529
Thanks. I've spent a couple of hours and am on post 171 of the thread. I'm a CID 11 that needs to follow those steps on post 3. Regardless, this seems to be designed to take me from Kitkat to Marshmallow, skipping me right past the land of Lollipop. I haven't tried it yet, but 2 questions:
1) once in Marshmallow, can I get back to Lollipop or Kitkat?
2) the intro to the steps say that CID=11 needs SafeStrap or Flashfire, but the actual steps never mention Flashfire (only safestrap). Is it truly either/or, or is there an advantage to SS?
Thanks!
bbsc said:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ve.../testers-required-easier-root-method-t3561529
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1. Lollipop - yes, Kitkat - no.
2. You still can use SS on MM. It's a little tricky but still possible.
Flashfire requires root so it will not work on MM for CID 11.
This thread may also be useful for understanding the things: https://forum.xda-developers.com/ve...al/guide-painiacs-essential-guide-to-t3319848
I'll check out that thread (thank you for that), but I'm confused by something you wrote: "Flashfire requires root so it will not work on MM for CID 11." My Kitkat currently has root. Are you suggesting that when I throw Marshmallow on it I'll lose it?
And if you all will allow me to hijack my own thread, is Marshmallow really worth the upgrade from Lollipop? Heck, is Lollipop that much better than Kitkat? I've got a (mostly) working rooted system now, and it sounds like I can go up to 6 and back down to 5, but never again back to 4, hopefully keeping root the whole journey.
Thanks for reading and helping a new guy out. I figure others will find this information helpful down the road, as 4.4.2 was easy to root.... but where (if anywhere) from here?
bbsc said:
1. Lollipop - yes, Kitkat - no.
2. You still can use SS on MM. It's a little tricky but still possible.
Flashfire requires root so it will not work on MM for CID 11.
This thread may also be useful for understanding the things: https://forum.xda-developers.com/ve...al/guide-painiacs-essential-guide-to-t3319848
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androidman807 said:
My Kitkat currently has root. Are you suggesting that when I throw Marshmallow on it I'll lose it?
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Yes.
You say your phone has CID11. For SM-G900V it means it has a locked bootloader that cannot be unlocked (currently, but most likely - never).
Locked bootloader is called so because it's locked to boot only certain digitally signed kernel (aka boot.img)
Root on MM requires a modified kernel which cannot be booted by a locked bootloader.
That's why you cannot have root on MM and will lose it when upgrading.
androidman807 said:
is Marshmallow really worth the upgrade from Lollipop?
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Only you can answer for yourself.
What are you using root for?
I have 4 or 5 S5s (G900V) here running MM and only one (mine) is rooted. No claims so far They just work.
BTW, all of them are running Devbase-4.2 from Alexndr.
If you're on Verizon you may like one of stock debloated ROMs which can be found in this section.
Thanks for all your help.
Reading the first few posts here really helped a lot to get a background. Then I attempted the steps here you provided on post 3 for my 11.
I thought I could pick my build after reading painiac's post, and was shy about going all the way up to PB1, but all the ones I chose wouldn't TowelRoot. I really did have to follow the instructions as written and use the COMBINATION EMMC ROM provided there. It freaked me out at first that it ended me up in Kitkat, but the final step brought up Lollipop and completed the process well.
The one scary point is after I ran Titanium getting ready to put some apps back on and used the "restore previous ID" it gave a panic, took me back to recovery and froze... required removing the battery, where normally that just causes a reboot. I did read the part in Painiac's post where he says don't restore system app (I had to export and import my contacts using the phone app to SD card and not Titanium - that worked). I hope my "restore previous ID" didn't go against his advice.
Other than that, things seem to be working smoothly now. I'm on Lollipop PB1 and not sure I even need Marshmallow. Thanks for all your help.
bbsc said:
Yes.
You say your phone has CID11. For SM-G900V it means it has a locked bootloader that cannot be unlocked (currently, but most likely - never).
Locked bootloader is called so because it's locked to boot only certain digitally signed kernel (aka boot.img)
Root on MM requires a modified kernel which cannot be booted by a locked bootloader.
That's why you cannot have root on MM and will lose it when upgrading.
Only you can answer for yourself.
What are you using root for?
I have 4 or 5 S5s (G900V) here running MM and only one (mine) is rooted. No claims so far They just work.
BTW, all of them are running Devbase-4.2 from Alexndr.
If you're on Verizon you may like one of stock debloated ROMs which can be found in this section.
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A couple of months back, I updated from Kitkat to Lollipop using the instructions below, and ever since, I've had two persistent problems, and I'm wondering if anyone else has:
1) Wi-fi cuts out every few days requiring a reboot fix. This seems to be related to DNS.
2) Receiving picture texts (MMS) show up as "Message size: 2KB Expires: (date)" with no way to download or view. I see no workaround other to tell friends to email me pictures instead of texting them.
I've tried a factory reset, but haven't gone back to Odin yet to try to put PB1 on again (or a different ROM?). The good news is SafeStrap recovery is on the phone now. What can I try next to resolve these two problems? I can live with them with the reboot and avoiding MMS, but they are not trivial.
Thanks for any guidance or advice. Please help.
androidman807 said:
Thanks for all your help.
Reading the first few posts here really helped a lot to get a background. Then I attempted the steps here you provided on post 3 for my 11.
I thought I could pick my build after reading painiac's post, and was shy about going all the way up to PB1, but all the ones I chose wouldn't TowelRoot. I really did have to follow the instructions as written and use the COMBINATION EMMC ROM provided there. It freaked me out at first that it ended me up in Kitkat, but the final step brought up Lollipop and completed the process well.
The one scary point is after I ran Titanium getting ready to put some apps back on and used the "restore previous ID" it gave a panic, took me back to recovery and froze... required removing the battery, where normally that just causes a reboot. I did read the part in Painiac's post where he says don't restore system app (I had to export and import my contacts using the phone app to SD card and not Titanium - that worked). I hope my "restore previous ID" didn't go against his advice.
Other than that, things seem to be working smoothly now. I'm on Lollipop PB1 and not sure I even need Marshmallow. Thanks for all your help.
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