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I have heard report that the Evo 4G Lte doesnt have the same display like the HTC One X. Instead of the SLCD 2,The Evo 4G Lte is using the IPS display with a 1280 x 720p HD resolution. So is The IPS display better or not?
Can you link your source?
SLCD2 is an IPS display and heres where hes pulling it from..
http://androidcommunity.com/htc-evo-4g-lte-hands-on-20120508/
There are some differences between IPS and SLCD2 if you want to get really technical but the fact here is the One X and the Evo 4G LTE have the same screens.
Don't be alarmed, as he ^ said, they are practically the same thing. In any case, here is a comparison of the two pulled from http://techlogg.com/2010/12/ips-vs-amoled-vs-slcd-smartphone-displays-explained/1877 that should dampen any doubt on the quality of an IPS screen:
SLCD – Super liquid-crystal display
LCD has been the mainstay for display panels from PDAs to notebooks to TVs over the last 15 years or so. What makes Super LCD so super is said to be improved light bleeding so that blacks actually look a bit more like black than they typically used to, giving better overall contrast. In comparisions with AMOLED, some reviews suggest that SLCD gives warmer colours than AMOLED. However, battery life appears to be worse with SLCD displays.
SLCD shouldn’t be confused with S-LCD, which is the name for the Samsung/Sony joint venture for manufacturing LCD panels.
Smartphone maker HTC began using SLCD panels in its Desire smartphones in August 2010 due to shortages in AMOLED panels from Samsung. If you have an early Desire, it’ll more likely have an AMOLED panel whereas those manufactured after August 2010 will have an SLCD panel instead.
IPS – In-plane switching
Apart from poor contrast ratios, the other issue with LCD panels is poor viewing angles. The further you move of the centre axis of an LCD panel, the worse the image becomes until you begin to see the reflected negative of that display. In-plane switching is a more expensive solution to the viewing angle problem by changing the direction in which the liquid crystal molecules move. So instead of the normal right-angle or perpendicular switching, IPS panels switch molecules in the same plane as the panel. It means light transmitted through the molecules can be seen at (almost) any angle.
IPS technology is most often used in LCD monitors – and usually at prices three times the going rate. It’s the technology behind Apple’s Retina display in the iPhone 4.
Sounds to me like IPS is a major upgrade from SLCD.
Not real thrilled about the battery life comment though...
Even before Sony name the new honami phone as Z1, I once thought that XZ can be a great predecessor for its future generations if Sony wishes.
I believe that many of you would also hope for the successor of XZ with its weaknesses fixed or improved. So, now the Z1 has come out
and let's list out which things Sony improved and which things that left out but still can be improved.
I also would like you to participate as fun with possible improvements that you've thought before. [Note: possible means not features like
Xenon flash, fingerprint scanner, 10x optical zoom etc.. ok? ]
First, let's see what weaknesses of XZ that is fixed or improved in Z1. I cannot definitely tell that some of the things are fixed but I will
update once I got Z1 and compared with XZ.
Xperia Z's weaknesses
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1. poor viewing angle (Hope triluminos fix it. Acceptable so far according to the hands on videos)
2. poor wifi receivement (If Sony make use of Z1's aluminium panel as antenna?)
3. wear and tear flaps (I am interested to find out how they managed to build the Z1's open earphone jack with water resistance)
4. battery life (Improved. XZ's battery life is acceptable for me but 2330 mAh is really not enough for heavy users)
5. Speaker (Improved........)
6. loose back panel near camera (Not sure and most important factor)
7. Shatter proof and scratch-resistant glass (Not improved)
8. No dedicated shutter button (fixed)
Z1's successor possible improvements
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1. Shatter proof and scratch-resistant glass to Corning Gorilla Glass 1/2/3 with oleophobic coating ?
Many of us might have been disappointed with such a fingerprint and dust magnet of XZ's screen. Very obvious and noticeable if you come from an iPhone.
Also I am also one of the people who don't prefer Shatter proof film at all because of the reason above.
2. magnetic power connector ? (optional)
Most of XZ owners afraid of their phone's flaps will become loose and eventually let water damage the phone one day because of the commonly used
2 main ports, micro usb port and earphone jack. Now Sony already managed to left the headphone jack open and if they managed to come up even
more with magnetic power connector and let it connect to 2 pogo pins(which was designed only for dock), it will definitely become an invincible beast.
You can argue that we can already charge the phone with dock however, some people don't prefer it because of high ampere and faster discharge of battery.
3. Increase internal memory to 32GB ?
Although we can add 16 up to 64 micro SDs, most people still want to make internal memory as their favourite. For me, its not a must factor as I usually
flash my phones alot and only store my data in microSD card.
4. Increase RAM to 3Gb? ( nah, no need)
5. OIS missing?
As far as I read up in pages, I cannot find anything about OIS in Z1. I guess Sony missed out an important feature.
6. S-Master MX digital amplifier ??
Many Walkman fans hoped desperately for that dedicated audio chip and Sony missed out again. However, I think it is because of constraints in so
many aspects such as design and customers' affordable price range.
Nanohearted said:
Even before Sony name the new honami phone as Z1, I once thought that XZ can be a great predecessor for its future generations if Sony wishes.
I believe that many of you would also hope for the successor of XZ with its weaknesses fixed or improved. So, now the Z1 has come out
and let's list out which things Sony improved and which things that left out but still can be improved.
I also would like you to participate as fun with possible improvements that you've thought before. [Note: possible means not features like
Xenon flash, fingerprint scanner, 10x optical zoom etc.. ok? ]
First, let's see what weaknesses of XZ that is fixed or improved in Z1. I cannot definitely tell that some of the things are fixed but I will
update once I got Z1 and compared with XZ.
Xperia Z's weaknesses
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1. poor viewing angle (Hope triluminos fix it. Acceptable so far according to the hands on videos)
2. poor wifi receivement (If Sony make use of Z1's aluminium panel as antenna?)
3. wear and tear flaps (I am interested to find out how they managed to build the Z1's open earphone jack with water resistance)
4. battery life (Improved. XZ's battery life is acceptable for me but 2330 mAh is really not enough for heavy users)
5. Speaker (Improved........)
6. loose back panel near camera (Not sure and most important factor)
7. Shatter proof and scratch-resistant glass (Not improved)
8. No dedicated shutter button (fixed)
Z1's successor possible improvements
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1. Shatter proof and scratch-resistant glass to Corning Gorilla Glass 1/2/3 with oleophobic coating ?
Many of us might have been disappointed with such a fingerprint and dust magnet of XZ's screen. Very obvious and noticeable if you come from an iPhone.
Also I am also one of the people who don't prefer Shatter proof film at all because of the reason above.
2. magnetic power connector ? (optional)
Most of XZ owners afraid of their phone's flaps will become loose and eventually let water damage the phone one day because of the commonly used
2 main ports, micro usb port and earphone jack. Now Sony already managed to left the headphone jack open and if they managed to come up even
more with magnetic power connector and let it connect to 2 pogo pins(which was designed only for dock), it will definitely become an invincible beast.
You can argue that we can already charge the phone with dock however, some people don't prefer it because of high ampere and faster discharge of battery.
3. Increase internal memory to 32GB ?
Although we can add 16 up to 64 micro SDs, most people still want to make internal memory as their favourite. For me, its not a must factor as I usually
flash my phones alot and only store my data in microSD card.
4. Increase RAM to 3Gb? ( nah, no need)
5. OIS missing?
As far as I read up in pages, I cannot find anything about OIS in Z1. I guess Sony missed out an important feature.
6. S-Master MX digital amplifier ??
Many Walkman fans hoped desperately for that dedicated audio chip and Sony missed out again. However, I think it is because of constraints in so
many aspects such as design and customers' affordable price range.
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this is not a troll question, i genuinely want to know why you regard xenon flash as a not possible improvement? Is xenon flash too hard to implement in mobiles? The nokia people did it right?
Anyway, without the phone in my hands my vote goes to a decent OIS system and to move away from flaps to wireless data transfer and charging. That way, we dont have to worry about those seals letting water in. Oh and for micro sd and the sim card flap, possibly making a tighter seal that can be secured shut with a small and discrete screw. I think the trade off of having a complete seal that you don't have to always check for dust and if its closed all the way is worth having to work a little harder to get to the sd and sim card.
Edit* just saw your #2 suggestion, i like that better than what i said. yeah just do away with the microsd if they can't waterproof it without a flap and hook everything up through that dock connector instead.
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this is not a troll question, i genuinely want to know why you regard xenon flash as a not possible improvement? Is xenon flash too hard to implement in mobiles? The nokia people did it right?
Anyway, without the phone in my hands my vote goes to a decent OIS system and to move away from flaps to wireless data transfer and charging. That way, we dont have to worry about those seals letting water in. Oh and for micro sd and the sim card flap, possibly making a tighter seal that can be secured shut with a small and discrete screw. I think the trade off of having a complete seal that you don't have to always check for dust and if its closed all the way is worth having to work a little harder to get to the sd and sim card.
Edit* just saw your #2 suggestion, i like that better than what i said. yeah just do away with the microsd if they can't waterproof it without a flap and hook everything up through that dock connector instead.
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I think I would prefer LED if I can't have both LED and Xenon flash on the front. I prefer having an LED flash that could be used as flashlight than using the phone screen for torch.
gwuhua1984 said:
I think I would prefer LED if I can't have both LED and Xenon flash on the front. I prefer having an LED flash that could be used as flashlight than using the phone screen for torch.
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that's a really good point, i agree 100%.
Things for me that are missing from the Z1 are
*32gb internal
*IR Blaster
*Glove mode like xperia SP
*OIS in the camera
*720p/1080p recording at 60fps ( not fussed about 4k thats just exccessive)
*S Max Walkman AMP
I wouldn't mind better speakers and an IR blaster. Otherwise it looks pretty damn good. Maybe a Xenon flash as well to take better pics at night.
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I wouldn't mind better speakers and an IR blaster. Otherwise it looks pretty damn good. Maybe a Xenon flash as well to take better pics at night.
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Not a big one for me but less bezel, more screen. Also I'd like wireless charging but the biggest change would be a removable battery.
These are my wish list,
1. S-Master - Audio is very important to me
2. Better Battery life. (at least 10 hours of viewing videos)
3. Better Screen Material. Screen that is a finger print magnet is really annoying. I literally bring an extra cloth on my bag to wipe the screen of my Xperia S.
4. Magnetic Charging Cable out of the box. this would really be awesome.
**OIS seems to have a lot of mixed reviews on the camera, so still waiting if it really needs an OIS or Sony Steadyshot will do.
Is This too Much
Dedicated audio chip(with 120db SNR. Frequency Response (-3dB, 24bit/192KHz input) : 10 Hz to 48 KHz)
600ohm headphone amplifier
stereo speakers with better drives (RMS Power: 500 Watt, Program power: 1000 Watt, Frequency range: 20 Hz - 100 kHz, Nominal Impedence: 4 Ohm, Efficience 2,83V / 1m: 92 dB, Maximum SPL: 118 dB)
superior auto with ability to manually control ISO
OIS
always on mic with dedicated speech recognition processor
dedicated X-reality processor with video upsampling
High contrast display
shatterproof film on inside of the phone exposing the glass
making the screen Oleophobic
Ir blaster
178 degree viewing angle
48-bit deep color panel
Stylus sensitivity as in Z-ultra
32GB internal memory
4GB RAM
3Ghz quad core processor that will be launched as per Qualcomm by the time next model comes out or 8 core model which is more upto date then,even maybe a 64 bit processor
Glove mode
Wireless Charging
LED and Xenon flash combo
Manual mode for X-reality engine
sapphire crystal instead of glass
LTE- Advance
multiple users with multiple privileges
Motion sensing using front Camera
running any app in multitask on single screen. even multiple instances of same app
RCJ89 said:
Things for me that are missing from the Z1 are
*32gb internal
*IR Blaster
*Glove mode like xperia SP
*OIS in the camera
*720p/1080p recording at 60fps ( not fussed about 4k thats just exccessive)
*S Max Walkman AMP
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Personally, I can agree with the Glove mode and the recording although I want 4K... They should enable it in the future with a software update but who knows... Anyways, IR blaster is not that necessary.. There's a good reason why there are TV remotes.. Sony's digital stabilisation is bloody good and they never use manual OIS so don't expect it... Don't know about the walkman amp but hell when I tested it yesterday, headphone audio was good...
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Personally, I can agree with the Glove mode and the recording although I want 4K... They should enable it in the future with a software update but who knows... Anyways, IR blaster is not that necessary.. There's a good reason why there are TV remotes.. Sony's digital stabilisation is bloody good and they never use manual OIS so don't expect it... Don't know about the walkman amp but hell when I tested it yesterday, headphone audio was good...
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Well don't leave us hanging man! tell us why there's a good reason there are TV remotes!
oled screen like psvita (z1 screen is good, but not that good viewing angles, and black levels not comparable to super amoled) (galaxy note 3 have super amoled
OIS - steadyshot in z1 is software implemented, a good OIS help a lot in video recording (galaxy note have OIS)
720p 120fps, 1080p 60fps, 4k and 2k video with good bitrates (adain, galaxy note 3 already have these features)
(i think its possible to add this in a firmware update, but i really doubt they will)
sony z1 loose to galaxy note 3 in all major features, only in camera pictures it wins (and a little bit disapoint for its 1/2.3 sensor)
this is disapoint. knowing that sony could have implemented all of this in z1 makes me sad. z1 has perfect design, is IP 55/58 wich is amazing, and has perfect hardware (snapdragon 800). but sony ****ed up in screen and video capabilities. if they had implemented all of this z1 would be a clear winner
if they release a z1 mini with the same specs as z1 but with 4'-4.3' screen i will buy it anyway, since it will be the only mini smartphone with flagship specs
z1 successor will have the same problems again, but just attenuated like z1 and z
Just heard about Z2 on the horizon but would treat this with a grain of salt:
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Specs-leak-for-the-Sony-Xperia-Z2-code-named-Avatar_id47423
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oled screen like psvita (z1 screen is good, but not that good viewing angles, and black levels not comparable to super amoled) (galaxy note 3 have super amoled
OIS - steadyshot in z1 is software implemented, a good OIS help a lot in video recording (galaxy note have OIS)
720p 120fps, 1080p 60fps, 4k and 2k video with good bitrates (adain, galaxy note 3 already have these features)
(i think its possible to add this in a firmware update, but i really doubt they will)
sony z1 loose to galaxy note 3 in all major features, only in camera pictures it wins (and a little bit disapoint for its 1/2.3 sensor)
this is disapoint. knowing that sony could have implemented all of this in z1 makes me sad. z1 has perfect design, is IP 55/58 wich is amazing, and has perfect hardware (snapdragon 800). but sony ****ed up in screen and video capabilities. if they had implemented all of this z1 would be a clear winner
if they release a z1 mini with the same specs as z1 but with 4'-4.3' screen i will buy it anyway, since it will be the only mini smartphone with flagship specs
z1 successor will have the same problems again, but just attenuated like z1 and z
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Just wanted to point out that note does not have OIS either. Also the note 3 uses the pentile display which is inferior to normal 1080p which z1 got.
Idk the waterproofing and camera was enough to win me over from the note 3... Quite a few tradeoffs to consider. You're suggestions were good nontheless.
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Just wanted to point out that note does not have OIS either. Also the note 3 uses the pentile display which is inferior to normal 1080p which z1 got.
Idk the waterproofing and camera was enough to win me over from the note 3... Quite a few tradeoffs to consider. You're suggestions were good nontheless.
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sorry, my mistake, i got confused about the OIS in the LG G2.
and about the oled display, i was reffering to the oled that sony uses in its PSvita. it doesnt use pentile matrix
an sony phone with oled display, 4k video, 1080p 60 fps, and OIS would be an instant buy. an mini version with similar specs would be a dream
waterproof and camera was enough for me too, even if the video recording is a little bit disapointing. and the triluminos display in z1 is good enought, but not flagship. oled would be perfect
pepeo123 said:
sorry, my mistake, i got confused about the OIS in the LG G2.
and about the oled display, i was reffering to the oled that sony uses in its PSvita. it doesnt use pentile matrix
an sony phone with oled display, 4k video, 1080p 60 fps, and OIS would be an instant buy. an mini version with similar specs would be a dream
waterproof and camera was enough for me too, even if the video recording is a little bit disapointing. and the triluminos display in z1 is good enought, but not flagship. oled would be perfect
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sony uses LCD on new PS Vita
http://www.techdigest.tv/2013/09/sony_explain_wh.html
Another dis advantage of OLED is it is not water proof, it can easily damage on water. it is the reason why Samsung Galaxy S4 Active is using LCD, instead of SAMOLED....
And also life span, OLED does not have a good life span, you immediately see effects after 1 year use.
OLED also suck at Outdoors, can barely use it while your outdoors on a bright sun, I live in a tropical country and I love going to the beach so this is important to me.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OLED
Morlock O said:
sony uses LCD on new PS Vita
http://www.techdigest.tv/2013/09/sony_explain_wh.html
Another dis advantage of OLED is it is not water proof, it can easily damage on water. it is the reason why Samsung Galaxy S4 Active is using LCD, instead of SAMOLED....
And also life span, OLED does not have a good life span, you immediately see effects after 1 year use.
OLED also suck at Outdoors, can barely use it while your outdoors on a bright sun, I live in a tropical country and I love going to the beach so this is important to me.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OLED
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Yeah I had an S3 and outdoors in the sun, nightmare to see anything.. I don't expect that much trouble with LCD!
Waterproof was enough to win me over, I how it's water proof, I love to swim so it will be amazing to use it in the pool
My pre-order is already in and my S3's days are numbered (I may give it to my Dad if he wants it )
I'm also really looking forward to cooking up some roms I really was in my sweet spot with Xperia when I had my Xperia Play.
here are some of the highest priority improvements for the next xperia flagship i hope to see:
SCREEN:
1. make the front glass and back glass THEMSELVES shatter proof, scratch resistant and with oleophobic coating to make the front film ONLY optional (the Z1 front glass itself is ONLY "scratch resistant", and if there's no way to make the glass itself shatter resistant with out having to put a film on then ditch the glass material for other material (sapphire ?)/all aluminum. just not plastic. by either way:
a. you treat many people that HATE screen films, like me. people who wants to put a film can always do that.
b. the screen quality will not be affected at all by a mandatory external film (a really minor effect, small as it may be, but it's still an effect, right? right).
2. do not print your "sony" logo on the front film - it's a really cheap and dumb decision. either engrave it on the front glass itself or don't engrave it at all on the front. and just don't tell me that the back "sony" and "xperia" logos are not printed on the back film as well, otherwise it will be too stupid.
just don't make the film a mandatory thing and don't ship the units with it on. of course one can remove the film but it would be a silly thing to do since the glass will be more fragile and without oleophobic coating - so it's not a wise thing to do.
i have my iphone 3gs for 4 years now and i have only 2 tiny scratches on the screen, why? cause i put it in ultra thine leather folder case which is a MUCH better compromise then using a phone with a film on which i can't stand, plus it gives real protection against drops, etc. much better protection then what the film brings.
3. improve the screen quality even more, especially the viewing angles to AT LEAST match the htc one/iphone 5 viewing angles.
4. gloves mode.
SOUND:
1. louder speaker or 2 speakers for a fuller and louder sound if possible.
2. higher quality audio - dedicated chip.
STORAGE:
1. at least 32gb internal.
i've owned the xperia z1 for a few weeks now and i absolutely adore it but theres things i don't like with it so i will list my wishes
first off the plastic all around inside the frame i hate it it kills the phone i don't see why it's even there it's pointing out why can't the frame reach over there instead or my wish is replace this plastic with a glass rgb light all around the entire phone when it's off you won't notice it's there but when it's on you do it would be able to light up certain parts pulse and other effects like moving allong the lines or mix colors like red at the top blue at the bottom etc (the rgb light it already has it muffled under something which makes it look bad but from a certain angle it's clear and amazing)
much better screen the best possible screen or amoled with sonys picture engine to make colors more life like best possible black level if a amoled couldn't be used
64 gb internal storage
xenon flash
completely black frame instead of titanium grey
no sony logo at the front and a olephobic coating (no anti shatter proof film)
4 speakers 2 at each side (not bottom but side) to create a surround effect
4.7 inch
as thin bezels as the xperia z or the zl
zzcool said:
i've owned the xperia z1 for a few weeks now and i absolutely adore it but theres things i don't like with it so i will list my wishes
first off the plastic all around inside the frame i hate it it kills the phone i don't see why it's even there it's pointing out why can't the frame reach over there instead or my wish is replace this plastic with a glass rgb light all around the entire phone when it's off you won't notice it's there but when it's on you do it would be able to light up certain parts pulse and other effects like moving allong the lines or mix colors like red at the top blue at the bottom etc (the rgb light it already has it muffled under something which makes it look bad but from a certain angle it's clear and amazing)
much better screen the best possible screen or amoled with sonys picture engine to make colors more life like best possible black level if a amoled couldn't be used
64 gb internal storage
xenon flash
completely black frame instead of titanium grey
no sony logo at the front and a olephobic coating (no anti shatter proof film)
4 speakers 2 at each side (not bottom but side) to create a surround effect
4.7 inch
as thin bezels as the xperia z or the zl
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THe freaking useless Panoramic.
Pressing the shutter will make the camera try to focus, but if you wait for it to fix on a focus point, it's too late.
You have to pag right when you press shutter, while it's trying to focus, so it doesnt focus on **** when youre panning because youll have to do it fast, but not too fast.
I think that you're asking too much I would be pleased that there was an S-Master Audio Chip. I would also like to have xenon flash but it's just impossible with such tiny phone, the capacitor wouldn't fit. But there are people working on capacitors like a piece of paper, too bad that it's not in use yet.
Smaller bezels and a edge-to-edge screen like on G2 would be great but hey, the phone is waterproof! And it houses a large camera sensor, so I think that we can forgive Sony for the bezels.
The thing I would definitely change is most of the software. The fact that Z1 holds on battery almost as same as Z which has a 2300 mAh while Z1 has 3000 mAh, and the fact that LG G2 lasts almost double longer when web surfing is making no sense. Z1 should last at least 8-10 hours of web surfing. And the second thing; camera! Those large bezeles, al those rumours about cameraphone, large senzor, bionz, g lens and all other fancy words and for what? LG G2 and SGS4 can take the same or even better photos in some cases. I think that this is a big issue.
Other than that, everything is perfect Maybe a louder speaker would be great but again, it's a waterproof phone. That speaker is maybe louder than all other speakers on Samsung and LG phones, but it can't reach it's maximum loudness because of water protection on the speaker itself. It's a problem that Sony has been dealing with from the start. And more powerful speaker requires more space and stronger amplifier, which drains more battery.
My damn screen and back are all scratched for no reason..... what happened to anti scratch????
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My damn screen and back are all scratched for no reason..... what happened to anti scratch????
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There is a screen-guard both on front and back glass. It's not scratch-resistant. You can take it off but you'll lose SONY logo. And what happened? You didn't take care for your phone enough. I never put my phone together with anything in my pocket and I'm using a case on my phones so they can't get scratched that easy.
1)I would change the place of usb slot to top so that it could be charged while its in the flip cover.
2)I would add 13MP mode in camera.
3)I would change the flash to xenon flash.
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My damn screen and back are all scratched for no reason..... what happened to anti scratch????
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I never mixed it with keys or anything. And some of these scratches are DEEP, like someone took a screw driver to them or something. Very disappointed. I don't think taking off the film you're talking about would take those deep ones away
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I never mixed it with keys or anything. And some of these scratches are DEEP, like someone took a screw driver to them or something. Very disappointed. I don't think taking off the film you're talking about would take those deep ones away
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How did you manage to do this? Are you sure that these are scratches? Maybe these are cracks; maybe your glass is broken? It wouldn't be the first time that this phone's glass got broken. If you keep it in your pants pocket it's very likely for the screen to get cracked when you sit down.
I have a 3 years old Xperia X10, without any scratch-protection and I don't have a single scratch. I dropped it hundreds of times but no scratch. So I don't get how you managed to scratch it. Maybe you're dealing with cracked glass.
z1
nothing to change, z1 have perfect design and most beautifull phone in the market. great cam for who to know how to use ..
Things to improve:
SCREEN:
1. make the front glass and back glass themselves shatter proof, scratch resistant and with oleophobic coating to make the front film ONLY optional.
2. don't make the film a mandatory thing, don't ship the units with it on.
3. do not print "sony" logo and any other logo on the front film - it's a cheap decision. either engrave it on the front glass itself or don't engrave it at all on the front.
4. 5.2 inch FHD highest quality IPS LCD available - dramatically improve the screen quality, especially the viewing angles to AT LEAST match the htc one/iphone 5s viewing angles. g2, iphone 5s and htc one screens are more impressive overall imo - all are higher quality IPS. i think that viewing angles are necessary for some and for others not. it's surely not good for a company to neglect those who care for viewing angles. i don't mean that the z1 screen is bad. i mean that higher quality IPS is the most balanced display and by that all users AND reviewers will be pleased because it's good in natural colors and it's good in viewing angles as opposed to the z1 screen - good in natural colors but bad in viewing angles.
5. gloves mode.
DESIGN:
1. consider all aluminum back and sides. less fragile then glass. i would say all sapphire design but the material still too expensive.
SOUND:
1. louder speaker or 2 speakers for a fuller and louder sound if possible.
2. higher quality audio - dedicated chip.
STORAGE:
1. 32gb as standard.
CAMERA:
1. better image processing to reduce noise.
2. OIS.
3. 4K ready.
4. dual LED.
OTHER:
1. IR blaster.
Things to improve:
SCREEN:
1. make the front glass and back glass themselves shatter proof, scratch resistant and with oleophobic coating to make the front film ONLY optional.
2. don't make the film a mandatory thing, don't ship the units with it on. if possible, make it also with "self healing" like in the LG g flex.
3. do not print "sony" logo and any other logo on the front film - it's a cheap decision. either engrave it on the front glass itself or don't engrave it at all on the front.
4. 5.2 inch FHD highest quality IPS LCD available - dramatically improve the screen quality, especially the viewing angles to AT LEAST match the htc one/iphone 5s viewing angles. g2, iphone 5s and htc one screens are more impressive overall imo - all are higher quality IPS. i think that viewing angles are necessary for some and for others not. it's surely not good for a company to neglect those who care for viewing angles. i don't mean that the z1 screen is bad. i mean that higher quality IPS is the most balanced display and by that all users AND reviewers will be pleased because it's good in natural colors and it's good in viewing angles as opposed to the z1 screen - good in natural colors but bad in viewing angles.
5. gloves mode.
DESIGN:
1. consider all aluminum back and sides. less fragile then glass. i would say all sapphire design but the material still too expensive.
SOUND:
1. louder speaker or 2 speakers for a fuller and louder sound if possible.
2. higher quality audio - dedicated chip.
STORAGE:
1. internal 32gb as standard.
CAMERA:
1. better image processing to reduce noise.
2. OIS.
3. 4K ready.
4. dual LED.
OTHER:
1. IR blaster.
More on board memory 16Gb of which 11.72Gb is user memory is not enough especially as you cannot run apps from the SD card
Camera should have a more resolutions in manual mode ie something above 8Mp in Widescreen mode would have been nice.
I would like to think that Sony can add camera resolution options with software, along with improving on the noise reduction.
Better codec support out the box, I know that we can install MX Player, but still with only 16Gb onboard every Meg counts!!
Improve the screen, as thanks to the tariff I am on with Vodafone, I get SkySports and watching football included on my 4G plan...
charging solar panel, ir blaster, removable battery, teamaker, time transpoter, oh yeah and walk the dog, okay sony lol. love my z1 as is anyways.
joecool666 said:
charging solar panel, ir blaster, removable battery, teamaker, time transpoter, oh yeah and walk the dog, okay sony lol. love my z1 as is anyways.
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Lol, the last one with the dog made me laugh But there's no need for sarcasm. Some wishes are exaggerated, but there actually is a lot room for improvements. While there's no special need for hardware improvements, there are a lot software improvements which should be done in 4.3 or 4.4 KitKat updates.
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Lol, the last one with the dog made me laugh But there's no need for sarcasm. Some wishes are exaggerated, but there actually is a lot room for improvements. While there's no special need for hardware improvements, there are a lot software improvements which should be done in 4.3 or 4.4 KitKat updates.
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i do agree with you no sarcasm was intended just in a good mood. z1 does need more mods and performance improvements as with all flagship devices.but still a cool phone,:good:
I'm really happy with the Z1. If I could change some things, it would only be two features:
- make the housing smaller (similar to the Xperia ZL)
- use WindowsPhone instead of Android (Android is okay, but WP is clearly the better system)
Future lottery numbers!
Wp better? That must be a joke, in my eyes wp is dead.
Anyways all I would love to change is: slightly bigger screen, 32/64gb built in space & z ultra alike screen. Other than that this phone is amazing.
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I'm really happy with the Z1. If I could change some things, it would only be two features:
- make the housing smaller (similar to the Xperia ZL)
- use WindowsPhone instead of Android (Android is okay, but WP is clearly the better system)
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The only advantage of WP over Android is it's smoothness. And with Snapdragon 800 the Android is fast and smooth like iOS and WP on Xperia Z1 so there's not a single reason to put WP while Android is way better in every aspect. I do really like some Lumias but I would never buy any of them while WP is on it.
Maybe Google has taken cuts with the phone?
I hear the moto x 2014 compared to galaxy S5, the screen difference is pretty big.
One uses amoled and one uses super amoled. Hopefully the 2k resolution will help the brightness and vibrancy.
What do you guys think? I haven't held a moto x and S5 together but I absolutely love the S5 screen.
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If anything, the 2k screen will be less bright...
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Resolution has nothing to do with brightness or vibrancy
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It's harder to push light through more pixels, so sure you can get a stronger backlight, but then you get more power consumption and heat.
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It's harder to push light through more pixels, so sure you can get a stronger backlight, but then you get more power consumption and heat.
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Huh? You don't push light through pixels with amoled screens. Per pixel brightness is certainly not affected by resolution, perhaps only with LCD screens.
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It's harder to push light through more pixels, so sure you can get a stronger backlight, but then you get more power consumption and heat.
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Amoled displays don't have backlights, the display itself is the source of light.
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My mistake, completely forgot that part about AMOLED. Been using IPS screens since I had a Galaxy Nexus, and that screen was junk.. so I've been wanting to stick to IPS. My G3 is gorgeous, so I'm kinda scared to see the N6 with AMOLED.
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Black ink spots kill AMOLED screens for me.
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Black ink spots kill AMOLED screens for me.
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Mura affects aren't really part of amoled. Oled screens it is like on my ps Vita
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Maybe Google has taken cuts with the phone?
I hear the moto x 2014 compared to galaxy S5, the screen difference is pretty big.
One uses amoled and one uses super amoled. Hopefully the 2k resolution will help the brightness and vibrancy.
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AMOLED is the screen technology. "Super AMOLED" is just Samsung's brand name for their own screens using AMOLED technology, not a separate technology. It remains to be seen what the Nexus 6 screen looks like when compared to Note 4.
Are you sure cause the S2 with Super AMOLED was significantly better than their regular AMOLED models like the GNEX.
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I've not used AMOLED since my Galaxy Nexus, but it was horrendous. Banding visible all over the screen on grey or beige (light colored) screens.
Plus, it had burn in on the status bar that I could always see on full screen youtube videos etc. Was terrible.
I'm wondering have they improved the hardware technology since then or can I expect that again on the Nexus 6,
Look forward to the reviews on here after launch. :laugh:
The OCD fanboys who buy the first wave will be busy detailing the issues. I used to be one of them. I'll wait till the second wave this time. haha :good::laugh:
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AMOLED is the screen technology. "Super AMOLED" is just Samsung's brand name for their own screens using AMOLED technology, not a separate technology. It remains to be seen what the Nexus 6 screen looks like when compared to Note 4.
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Super AMOLED is based on AMOLED a technology, but has an integrated digitizer instead of it laid on top, making it brighter and more vibrant. It also reflects less sunlight than a standard AMOLED screen.
It is their marketing term, but does have some modifications
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AMOLED is the screen technology. "Super AMOLED" is just Samsung's brand name for their own screens using AMOLED technology, not a separate technology. It remains to be seen what the Nexus 6 screen looks like when compared to Note 4.
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Super AMOLED is based on AMOLED a technology, but has an integrated digitizer instead of it laid on top, making it brighter and more vibrant. It also reflects less sunlight than a standard AMOLED screen.
It is their marketing term, but does have some modifications
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Imagine if they used non pentile
This is a quick pull from wiki explaining the difference between all amoled screens
Super AMOLED[edit]
Super AMOLED is Samsung's term for an AMOLED display with an integrated digitizer, meaning that the layer that detects touch is integrated into the screen, rather than overlaid on top of it. According to Samsung, Super AMOLED reflects one-fifth as much sunlight compared to the first generation AMOLED.[21][22] The display technology itself is not changed. Super AMOLED is part of the Pentile matrix family. It is sometimes abbreviated SAMOLED.
For the Samsung Galaxy S III, which reverted to Super AMOLED instead of the pixelation-free conventional RGB (non-PenTile) Super AMOLED Plus of its predecessor Samsung Galaxy S II, the S III's larger screen size encourages users to hold the phone further from their face to obscure the PenTile effect.[23]
Super AMOLED Advanced[edit]
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Super AMOLED Advanced is a term marketed by Motorola to describe a brighter display than Super AMOLED screens, but also a higher resolution – qHD or 960 × 540 for Super AMOLED Advanced compared to WVGA or 800 × 480 for Super AMOLED. It also is 25% more energy efficient. Super AMOLED Advanced features PenTile, which sharpens subpixels in between pixels to make a higher resolution display, but by doing this, some picture quality is lost.[24] This display equips the Motorola Droid RAZR.[25]
Super AMOLED Plus[edit]
The Samsung Galaxy S II, with a Super AMOLED Plus screen
Super AMOLED Plus, first introduced with the Samsung Galaxy S II and Samsung Droid Charge smartphones, is a branding from Samsung where the PenTile RGBG pixel matrix (2 subpixels) used in Super AMOLED displays has been replaced with a traditional RGB RGB (3 subpixels) arrangement typically used in LCD displays. This variant of AMOLED is brighter and therefore more energy efficient than Super AMOLED displays[26] and produces a sharper, less grainy image because of the increased number of subpixels. In comparison to AMOLED and Super AMOLED displays, the Super AMOLED Plus displays are even more energy efficient and brighter. However, Samsung cited screen life and costs by not using Plus on the Galaxy S II's successor, the Samsung Galaxy S III.[18]
HD Super AMOLED[edit]
Galaxy Note II subpixels representation, based on 400X image of the Note II display[27]
The Galaxy Nexus, with an HD Super AMOLED screen[28]
HD Super AMOLED is a branding from Samsung for an HD-resolution (>1280×720) Super AMOLED display. The first device to use it was the Samsung Galaxy Note. The Galaxy Nexus and the Galaxy S III both implement the HD Super AMOLED with a PenTile RGBG-matrix (2 subpixels/pixel), while the Galaxy Note II uses an RBG matrix (3 subpixels/pixel) but not in the standard 3 stripe arrangement.[27]
HD Super AMOLED Plus[edit]
A variant of the Samsung Galaxy S3 using Tizen OS 1 was benchmarked using a non-pentile HD Super AMOLED Plus screen in 2012.[29]
Full HD Super AMOLED[edit]
As featured on the Samsung Galaxy S4[30] and Samsung Galaxy Note 3. It has the broadest color gamut of any mobile display of up to 97% of the Adobe RGB color space, hence making it a wide-gamut display.[31][32]
Future[edit]
Future displays exhibited from 2011 to 2013 by Samsung have shown flexible, 3D, unbreakable, transparent Super AMOLED Plus displays using very high resolutions and in varying sizes for phones. These unreleased prototypes use a polymer as a substrate removing the need for glass cover, a metal backing, and touch matrix, combining them into one integrated layer.[33]
So far, Samsung plans on branding the newer displays as Youm.[34]
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OMFG are people here really this clueless? Samsung calls ALL their AMOLED panels Super AMOLED. That includes the ones they sell to Motorola and Nokia. They are ALL made by Samsung. The reason why the Moto X 2014 doesn't look as good as the Galaxy S5 is because Samsung ALWAYS sells the last generation to their competitors and saves the latest generation for themselves. In other words what you see on the Moto X is the same tech as the Galaxy S4, not the S5. And for those dumb people who keep on saying higher resolution means lower brightness, this is only true for LCD since they use a backlight and it has to shine through each pixel, with more pixels decreasing the brightness overall. AMOLED is completely different in that each pixel is its own light source and when you pack them together, they will be brighter not dimmer, just like how your vanity mirror in your restroom will be brighter with three small 600 lumen bulbs near each other versus just one 900 lumen bulb.
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Ah yes, now I remember those black spots too.. what exactly caused those and can we expect this on the N6?
Hopefully screen burn is a thing of the past, especially with the nav and status bars going transparent on the home screen.
If the display is PenTile, that will probably kill it for me right away. I can't stand the fuzziness that comes with that junky setup. I bought a Yoga 2 Pro and noticed it right away which is part of why I returned it. I also hate how AMOLED has a very blue/green hue to it.. guess we'll see how the N6 turns out.
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For me both suck... cause of degradation of the organic led.. colors become toned... and burn in issue.. they are simply inadequate.. expecially at that price...
From what I recall Samsung makes all AMOLED displays so you should expect it to be great. Google wouldn't put a bad display on a flagship phone.
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Ah yes, now I remember those black spots too.. what exactly caused those and can we expect this on the N6?
Hopefully screen burn is a thing of the past, especially with the nav and status bars going transparent on the home screen.
If the display is PenTile, that will probably kill it for me right away. I can't stand the fuzziness that comes with that junky setup. I bought a Yoga 2 Pro and noticed it right away which is part of why I returned it. I also hate how AMOLED has a very blue/green hue to it.. guess we'll see how the N6 turns out.
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screen burn isn't a thing of the past.. beacause the technology il still the same.. organic led degradate with use.. losing brightness and uncalibrating all screen colors (this with homogeneous wear) but some elements like status bar icons and navbar buttons are always in the same position!! And they will burn in inevitably
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From what I recall Samsung makes all AMOLED displays so you should expect it to be great. Google wouldn't put a bad display on a flagship phone.
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In other words what you see on the Moto X is the same tech as the Galaxy S4
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Super AMOLED is a version of AMOLED display technology that integrates a capacitive touchscreen layer directly into the display instead of overlaying it on top of the display, as has traditionally been done. This results in a thinner design that uses less power and reflects less light, and as a result works better outdoors.
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Hi everyone...
my operator just offered a limited-time rebate, that lowers G6 cost to just 310 EUR, so i decided to seriously consider it as my Note 4 is on its last legs with its snail-speed EMMC memory which is also a time bomb as it can fail at any moment.
LG G6 is one of the few phones (apart from the Sharp Aquos or Xiaomi Mi Mix) that i actually like...
so i went to a huge department store to test it in real life... and was very disappointed, as the screen looks dull, and text clarity is mediocre. Websites like Android Authority (with gray text) look mediocre too.. Also the store (mediamarkt) was very well lit with lamps, and raising the brightness to max level only made the brightness good enough... well, comparing the LG G6 screen with my note 4 side by side was upsetting, it looked somewhat grayish, and would be clearly a downgrade. The key thing is that it is not crisp.
In the same store were also samsung and huawei demo zones. I understand that LG G6 and Huawei phones have IPS screens... The phone (screen) that I liked very much turned out to be Huawei Mate 9. Huawei P10 was also nice, but Mate 9 screen was the best imho. Unfortunately i recommended a huawei phone to muy friend (it was Huawei Note 8) and now he has tremendous communication delays, whatsapps get delivered sometimes hours later (here users complain about the same problem), so Huawei unfortunately is not an option for me. I was really hoping LG G6 would do, especially at a very decent price of 310 EUR.
I thought maybe it was a defective unit... so i went to another department store nearby that was less lit and also had LG G6 demo zone. It actually had several G6s and they all had that mediocre screens...
Finally i'm afraid i will have to skip that 310 EUR offer which is a pity, i'd love to have a more snappy phone... And in general G6 is very compact and nice...
Wondering what are your impressions from LG G6 screen? I've looked though these forums and see that most people rave about it, which is astonishing. Am i too critical?
I have the (Korean?) H870DS 64GB, Quad DAC version and I am extremely happy with the screen. AMOLED screens may have vibrant colours and black-black, but the colours just don't look natural.
LG G6 has one of the best screens out there, it's got HDR10 display certified too that it almost matches the very best displays like the Galaxy S8, where as IPS Quantum Display in the LG is better than AMOLED is the oranges you see on the AMOLED appear very red , AMOLED are being notorious for over-saturation and longer image retention (screen burn in might be permanent in AMOLED where as IPS the burn in is temporary) LG IPS Quantum Display has excellent whites and more natural colours.
If you are used to seeing life through an over-saturated screen then accurate RGB will seem subdued.
However go into settings on your Note 4 and turn display mode to BASIC and you will see RGB mode on Samsung panels looks very different. Now compare to the G6 ...
Remember Display Mate rate Samsung panels highly based on the 'basic' mode due to colour accuracy and not on Adaptive Display mode they ship with as default.
However if you are fan of the boosted colours then likely only another over saturated AMOLED panel will appease and therefore the G6 isn't for you.
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I am happy with the change i have come from an s8 with the screen i have had all the s range all the note range bar the 5 as was not out in the uk and there is not really that much difference part from blacks look really black on samsung phones my whites look white on my g6 unlike my s8 they looked pink/ red if you are not picking you will find faults and the lg ui is more fluid and faster than my s8 not had one bit of stutter or lag on my g6 but had fair bot on s8
No complaints about the G6 screen. This was my first LCD phone is many years (previously S6, S4, S3, and Note 2; plus Galaxy Tab S), so was worried about switching to the G6's LCD. I see the differences when I compare side-by-side, but I don't notice the difference when I use the G6 by itself.
The Huawei you saw at the store might be set to demo/display mode (like TVs) that maximizes brightness and color to levels you probably wouldn't use.
Yes it does have the hdr 10 thing but there is other phones having it but what the lg g6 is the only phone certifed for , is the dolby vision nd it s the only phone till now it does take the hdr thing to another level :laugh:
No complaints with the screen here, seems just as crisp as my Galaxy S6, with the added benefit of no screen burn. Very happy.
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It's more of a personal choice. I find benefits in both superAmoled, and IPS panels. For me, Amoled is better for long time reading, mostly because of true blacks and less backlight emitition (as I use with my tab s3) while for more realistic colors and specially true white, I prefer my G6. It has probably the best IPS panel I've seen by far.
Unrelated, but somehow related to screen experience, my s7 was a fingerprint magnet. G6 oleophobic coating seems to be much better! (At least after a few weeks)
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Yes it does have the hdr 10 thing but there is other phones having it but what the lg g6 is the only phone certifed for , is the dolby vision nd it s the only phone till now it does take the hdr thing to another level :laugh:
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As with most tv content HDR is useless and really really useless during the daytime. This coming from a guy who invested $5k last year on 4k tv and playable equipment. From xbox 1 S. Amazing OLED LG 65" and samsung hdr 4k player
Does anyone use this? It's kinda cool I use it to get a better contrast ratio. Since we don't get screen modes like Samsung does. Been doing it since my g3
Sad ? First of all you should know the difference between amoled and LCD .
An amoled while delivers punchy vibrant colors is actually unreal or artificial colors.
LCD is not punchy but produce Real life colors almost.
Red is red and blue is blue .
Gotta doubt ? Try taking pics of some fruits mixed together and compare them in 2k amoled and 2k LCD.
And for original clarity of display the display brightness should be around 50%.
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Sad ? First of all you should know the difference between amoled and LCD .
An amoled while delivers punchy vibrant colors is actually unreal or artificial colors.
LCD is not punchy but produce Real life colors almost.
Red is red and blue is blue .
Gotta doubt ? Try taking pics of some fruits mixed together and compare them in 2k amoled and 2k LCD.
And for original clarity of display the display brightness should be around 50%.
I have the oneplus 3t and purchased a G6 from eglobal. Excellent service and price. I must say I was also disappointed with the G6 screen the whites are so cool they look blue. I tried changing the colour temperature in the visual settings but couldn't find any srgb mode like I have on the 3t. Brightness is also not great. I sold it on as for me the lcd was just not very nice to look at which is a shame tbh. Hoping the v30 will use a better screen.
Coming from S7 Edge, I must say the LG G6 screen is quite poor ( I still have the S7E). People here bragging about it being an LCD display, true color renditions, and HDR, doesn't know enough to judge the displays. Well, I have a Mi 5 and also compared the iPhone 7 display to the LG 6 ( Both Mi 5 and iPhone 7 has LCD displays) and unfortunately, g6's display was not impressive at all. Not deep enough blacks ( Again comparing only to other LCD's and not to an AMOLED screen), not bright enough(Even indoors, I keep it around 60 plus percent for a satisfactory brightness), not sharp enough ( The text looks pale and not so sharp) and the viewing angles are terrible. I am of course not in any way expecting the G6 to compete with the Samsung AMOLED displays, but G6 being 2017 flagship from LG, should be good enough to compete with at least the Xiaomi Mi 5 if not an iPhone 7.
I bought it for a few reasons,
1) Design and look ( Looks pretty sleek and neat)
2) Got it for a really cheap deal
3) Love the wide angle camera
I had a really tough time maintaining my S7E. It does not have a proper tempered glass due to its edge display and that's the main reason I wanted to switch to another phone so that I can avoid the head ache of changing the tempered glass every month and also my S7E display cracked even with a tempered glass on ( Though it's pretty usable and used it in that same condition for about 6 months). So thought it's not worth getting the display replaced as it seems too fragile and I did not find any other phone to switch to(Not a fan of iPhones), so have temporarily switched to the G6. I think I will switch to Pixel 2 as soon as its launched ( Hate the present pixel for those ugly big chins)
So yeah the G6 display is a very mediocre and definitely not something you should buy the phone for.
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Coming from S7 Edge, I must say the LG G6 screen is quite poor ( I still have the S7E). People here bragging about it being an LCD display, true color renditions, and HDR, doesn't know enough to judge the displays.
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Well this is a stupid assumption because me for example, reviews Monitors for Companies like Yamakasi, Catleap, Samsung, Dell. I had around 15 different Monitors in the last four years (21:9,4K,WQHD,IPS,TN,244 Hz,3D,PLS,G-Sync,Freesync, pretty much everything). And i can tell you from a standpoint where facts matter, the Amoled Smartphone displays are total crap. Amoled has nicer blacks because it doesn't require to power black pixels, in other words, black means off. But the over saturation is completely unrealistic and extremely annoying when taking pictures on your Smartphone and then transfering them to your PC suddenly noticing the Image is way less colorfull and saturated on a Eizo calibrated Eizo Foris. This is nuts. And if you find IPS Panels White color too cool, then you must know that Witebalance is increased with brightness. Whites may look whiter, but if you over expose greys become white too, thats why IPS displays look a bit cooler, because otherwise you would have a solid block of white instead of a nice dynamic range.
Im coming from a Galaxy Note 4 and, guys. This Display is so much better for people who actually want realistic colors and know how to use the camera properly. (eg. Tech Guys). I know many people want extreme Bass on their Headphones or over saturated displays, but it doesn't change the fact that you are loosing details or faking the output. Its simply unpleasant to the eye to have such a big amount of saturation where in reality everything looks much more natural. This stuff was cool when i was 14. Nowadays i want to reproduce everything 1:1, no matter if its Sound Quality or Display color. Professionals are much better off with the G6.
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Well this is a stupid assumption because me for example, reviews Monitors for Companies like Yamakasi, Catleap, Samsung, Dell. I had around 15 different Monitors in the last four years (21:9,4K,WQHD,IPS,TN,244 Hz,3D,PLS,G-Sync,Freesync, pretty much everything). And i can tell you from a standpoint where facts matter, the Amoled Smartphone displays are total crap. Amoled has nicer blacks because it doesn't require to power black pixels, in other words, black means off. But the over saturation is completely unrealistic and extremely annoying when taking pictures on your Smartphone and then transfering them to your PC suddenly noticing the Image is way less colorfull and saturated on a Eizo calibrated Eizo Foris. This is nuts. And if you find IPS Panels White color too cool, then you must know that Witebalance is increased with brightness. Whites may look whiter, but if you over expose greys become white too, thats why IPS displays look a bit cooler, because otherwise you would have a solid block of white instead of a nice dynamic range.
Im coming from a Galaxy Note 4 and, guys. This Display is so much better for people who actually want realistic colors and know how to use the camera properly. (eg. Tech Guys). I know many people want extreme Bass on their Headphones or over saturated displays, but it doesn't change the fact that you are loosing details or faking the output. Its simply unpleasant to the eye to have such a big amount of saturation where in reality everything looks much more natural. This stuff was cool when i was 14. Nowadays i want to reproduce everything 1:1, no matter if its Sound Quality or Display color. Professionals are much better off with the G6.
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Serious the display is not good. The whites are so blue. Lets not turn this into amoled vs lcd because we all know LG, Apple/Sharp will be using Amoled in the future not lcd.
Just pick up an iPhone and compare the G6 screen and that will show how poor it is. Just hope v30 will be better.
I'm disappointed in Samsung crappy Amoled panels. My first S8+ had severly brighter upper half than bottom when viewing dark content. My second unit has white balance shift on the bottom part. Red left side green right side. I can never ever get a good Samsung panel. With the S7+ I switched phones 4 times and never got a good screen. Also Amoled whites suck it's not white like LCD. I ****ing give up on Sammy phones forever now I enjoy my G6 LCD so much more it has punch to its white and not these quality issues Samsung always has had.
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Well this is a stupid assumption because me for example, reviews Monitors for Companies like Yamakasi, Catleap, Samsung, Dell. I had around 15 different Monitors in the last four years (21:9,4K,WQHD,IPS,TN,244 Hz,3D,PLS,G-Sync,Freesync, pretty much everything). And i can tell you from a standpoint where facts matter, the Amoled Smartphone displays are total crap. Amoled has nicer blacks because it doesn't require to power black pixels, in other words, black means off. But the over saturation is completely unrealistic and extremely annoying when taking pictures on your Smartphone and then transfering them to your PC suddenly noticing the Image is way less colorfull and saturated on a Eizo calibrated Eizo Foris. This is nuts. And if you find IPS Panels White color too cool, then you must know that Witebalance is increased with brightness. Whites may look whiter, but if you over expose greys become white too, thats why IPS displays look a bit cooler, because otherwise you would have a solid block of white instead of a nice dynamic range.
Im coming from a Galaxy Note 4 and, guys. This Display is so much better for people who actually want realistic colors and know how to use the camera properly. (eg. Tech Guys). I know many people want extreme Bass on their Headphones or over saturated displays, but it doesn't change the fact that you are loosing details or faking the output. Its simply unpleasant to the eye to have such a big amount of saturation where in reality everything looks much more natural. This stuff was cool when i was 14. Nowadays i want to reproduce everything 1:1, no matter if its Sound Quality or Display color. Professionals are much better off with the G6.
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Did you even read my complete post? My god, how you just want to jump all over and prove me wrong. Please read my complete post if you haven't already. I clearly said i am not comparing the G6's display to the AMOLED ones and i am a professional photographer myself and i know what it means to have a display that can render true colors. But i clearly mentioned that, when i compared this display with the Mi 5, iPhone7 and I even compared it to the Mi 6 today which all have LCD displays and not AMOLED, and unfortunately, they all render better colors ( Of course true colors), they look sharper ( In fact all those phones i mentioned doesnt even have a QHD display, they are all full HD) and over all more impressive. I am not here to win an argument, i am simply stating the facts. being a G6 owner my self, i have no reasons to prove anything against it, unless it is really true.
It really strikes me how display quality perception differs among individuals.
I'm in the process of choosing my next smartphone and, being picky on display quality, I read a lot of posts and reviews putting attention to the display topic.
Well, someone says LG G6 is an excellent display, with good luminosity, well calibrated colors and deep blacks (second only to HTC U Ultra, which looks to have one of the best LCD displays to date).
Someone else, the minority in my reading actually, are not happy and say that blacks quickly turn to grays even at little angles.
Obviously I'm puzzled, and now my only hope is that a store near me will receive a G6 soon, so I'll be able to check it out first hand.
Oneplus 3t in maximum brightness and lg g6 in maximum brightness which is brighter and better to read in the sun? I miss my oneplus two because it was mich better to read
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