Hey everyone,
I'm new here but have a decent knowledge base on what i'm looking for. I recently acquired a Galaxy S5 (ATT). Model is : G900A. It's on Android 4.4.4. I'm having a tough time tracking down specific information for this device. What i'm looking for:
1. A root option aside form Towelroot, as it doesn't support my device and I can't seem to find another that would support the ATT version.
2. Does this root option trip knox?
3. Which Recovery software would be best suited for this device if any at all?
Any help would be appreciated. I'm hoping the information i've found is outdated and i'm just missing something but any additional info would be helpful or at least give me better insight to the position S5 rooting is at. Thanks!
Is there anyone with this knowledge?
Check the att galaxy s5 general section there are threads about this. Quick summary for you though, the only option is towelroot but you need to downgrade, towelroot does not trip knox, the only recovery availanle is safestrap and you can only flash tw based roms so no aosp or aokp or CM.
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Thank you so much for the rundown. I've looked further into it and had a couple more questions that can hopefully be answered for my clarity.
1. I downloaded 4.4.2 from sammobile, i'm assuming it's stock and won't trip knox.
2. Is there a certain version of Odin I should use as to again, not trip knox.
3. Once I root on 4.4.2, is there a vanilla version of a ROM w/ TW that I can install to retain most functionality that i've gotten used to?
Anima The Aeon said:
Thank you so much for the rundown. I've looked further into it and had a couple more questions that can hopefully be answered for my clarity.
1. I downloaded 4.4.2 from sammobile, i'm assuming it's stock and won't trip knox.
2. Is there a certain version of Odin I should use as to again, not trip knox.
3. Once I root on 4.4.2, is there a vanilla version of a ROM w/ TW that I can install to retain most functionality that i've gotten used to?
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Use the downloads from the thread, not sammobile. You cannot trio knox as far as i know on the att model. Ya tbere are a few roms, theyre all touchwiz based due to the fact that its the only roms you can flash since the bootloader is locked, just check the att s5 android development section and pick your favorite.
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Use the downloads from the thread, not sammobile. You cannot trio knox as far as i know on the att model. Ya tbere are a few roms, theyre all touchwiz based due to the fact that its the only roms you can flash since the bootloader is locked, just check the att s5 android development section and pick your favorite.
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What I meant was finding a legit stock ROM. I can't seem to locate any here on this site unless i'm really making a fool of myself. I'm trying to downgrade my phone to 4.4.2 and towelroot it. Then find a good rom for 4.4.4. I have no problem installing a TW ROM. There's just so much information and so many ROM's it's difficult to narrow down a process for my specific resolution. I do appreciate the patience so far and thanks again for more info! Also, do you know which verison of Odin I should grab?
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You'd better ask in the AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5 forum for more support.
I found this by snooping around a little more.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/att...-g900aucu2aoa1-4-4-4-2-3-2015-t3021120/page19
That worked. For anyone else having trouble locating information, check the above link. Worked for me!
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Okay, so I've been lurking these threads and I'd like to see if someone could clarify a few things. I come from the S3 which was a lot more simpler than the s4.
I recently bought a Galaxy S4 AT&T 32GB with MK2 ota installed. My understanding is that you cannot go back. I am fine with that, touchwiz is actually just fine and dandy on 4.3 (at least for me it is.) I do however, have a few questions in regards to the rooting process.
Rooting:
1. From what I understand, MK2 has a few privacy-concerned root methods. Once I root, I can proceed to the next question, correct?
Installing Roms:
2. After you root, from what I understand, you install a side strap program that creates partitions on your internal SDcard to install roms (side by side?) However, there is no currently stable SS for MK2. When a stable version of SS does come out, I can use it to install roms (particularly Virgin GPE sounds enticing to me, i love pure stock without much extra features) even with the boot loader being locked?
3. SS also voids the warranty, is that correct?
4. I am hearing knox is sort of like the new flash counter for S4, except it doesn't really count, it just voids your warranty, is that correct?
Thanks in advance to the community, you guys are doing an awesome job.
Dont try to flash a rom or recovery with mk2
itszcharlie said:
Okay, so I've been lurking these threads and I'd like to see if someone could clarify a few things. I come from the S3 which was a lot more simpler than the s4.
I recently bought a Galaxy S4 AT&T 32GB with MK2 ota installed. My understanding is that you cannot go back. I am fine with that, touchwiz is actually just fine and dandy on 4.3 (at least for me it is.) I do however, have a few questions in regards to the rooting process.
Rooting:
1. From what I understand, MK2 has a few privacy-concerned root methods. Once I root, I can proceed to the next question, correct?
Installing Roms:
2. After you root, from what I understand, you install a side strap program that creates partitions on your internal SDcard to install roms (side by side?) However, there is no currently stable SS for MK2. When a stable version of SS does come out, I can use it to install roms (particularly Virgin GPE sounds enticing to me, i love pure stock without much extra features) even with the boot loader being locked?
3. SS also voids the warranty, is that correct?
4. I am hearing knox is sort of like the new flash counter for S4, except it doesn't really count, it just voids your warranty, is that correct?
Thanks in advance to the community, you guys are doing an awesome job.
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from mf3 to mk2 you cannont flash roms.................but with hashcodes fix you only can flash 4.2.2 roms with a thing called safestrap look around and check out his blog he hasnt posted anything about an mk2 fix but he's working on it......btw im on mf3 and using safestrap and running a 4.2.2 google edition rom
http://blog.hash-of-codes.com/ <- blog
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1391900 <- safestrap recovery (not compatible with MK2 yet)
sorry bro you cant flash roms yet he's working on a fix
hope i helped
DyslexicTurtle said:
from mf3 to mk2 you cannont flash roms.................but with hashcodes fix you only can flash 4.2.2 roms with a thing called safestrap look around and check out his blog he hasnt posted anything about an mk2 fix but he's working on it......btw im on mf3 and using safestrap and running a 4.2.2 google edition rom
http://blog.hash-of-codes.com/ <- blog
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1391900 <- safestrap recovery (not compatible with MK2 yet)
sorry bro you cant flash roms yet he's working on a fix
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okay so if I understand this correctly, once his 4.3 fix for mk2 is out, I am able to install GPE 4.3? Are there any downsides to this? I'm hearing you have to use the touchwiz kernel because of some kind of overwrite protection. is that the case here?
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No at this point when he updates it to mk2....what I understand is that only 4.2.2 Roms are compatible with safestrap as of now
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DyslexicTurtle said:
No at this point when he updates it to mk2....what I understand is that only 4.2.2 Roms are compatible with safestrap as of now
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No, it's only ROM's that work with the stock kernel. Since our stock kernel is now 4.3, we can only use 4.3 ROMs.
There is a safe rooting method and you can find the thread in the general section. Hashcode is working on Safestrap for MK2, and is close as he made it for the Verizon S4 already. When the stable version comes out you can use 4.3 Touchwiz roms and GPE since it runs on a stock S4 kernel. Technically rooting voids the warranty by itself, but people just flash their phones back to stock in order to circumvent this. KNOX is a set of security tools for businesses and such, and for us it does add a counter to the bootloader that voids warranty.
itszcharlie said:
Rooting:
1. From what I understand, MK2 has a few privacy-concerned root methods. Once I root, I can proceed to the next question, correct?
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No. There is a safe and easy method.
Here is the method: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2565758
It's for the Verizon version of our phone, but it works.
itszcharlie said:
Installing Roms:
2. After you root, from what I understand, you install a side strap program that creates partitions on your internal SDcard to install roms (side by side?) However, there is no currently stable SS for MK2. When a stable version of SS does come out, I can use it to install roms (particularly Virgin GPE sounds enticing to me, i love pure stock without much extra features) even with the boot loader being locked?
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There is no safestrap for MK2 (which is Android 4.3) yet. I'm not familiar with the Rom you're talking about. If you look around a bit, there's a post that details the roms available for MF3. I'd imagine that list will be similar for MK2
itszcharlie said:
3. SS also voids the warranty, is that correct?
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Don't know. Wouldn't worry about it. If you need your warranty, go back to stock.
itszcharlie said:
4. I am hearing knox is sort of like the new flash counter for S4, except it doesn't really count, it just voids your warranty, is that correct?
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Knox is actually part of Samsung's Enterprise security system. They developed Knox and all this other iPhoney lock-down crap as part of a push to win government & corporate contracts. My understanding is that the Knox counter voids the Knox warranty, not the warranty on the phone. You should locate the warranty and read it for yourself.
thanks for the thorough explanation. this clears a lot of things up.
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I just recently rooted my Samsung galaxy s4.i purchased it the other day and it's running MK2 I was able to use safe root to do so. I also have safe boot installed as a recovery. My question is, how can I install aosp roms? I couldn't find any information on this. The only roms safe boot supports is stock. Where do I go from here? I am new to s4 so please be nice. Thank you so much.
You can't
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Its to bad you didn't get the S4 back when it was released or earlier last summer when it was shipping with MDL firmware. This firmware allowed us to use loki and install any custom rom we want, including pure kitkat. Maybe you can trade your new one for an MDL one.
Well. ... Is there a way that I could downgrade my firmware and root from there?
PureLife90 said:
Well. ... Is there a way that I could downgrade my firmware and root from there?
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You can't
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PureLife90 said:
Well. ... Is there a way that I could downgrade my firmware and root from there?
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I wish you could. Devices running MF3 firmware or higher blew an eFuse when they upgraded from MDL firmware. There is no way back. AT&T and Samsung are doing everything possible to make it so we can't root or flash custom recoveries. It's beyond disgusting how much AT&T goes out of its way to stop us from getting into our own devices.
I'd recommend not purchasing the AT&T branded devices from here on out. Let's hope that the international version of the s5 supports AT&T's LTE bands.
Is there a stock debloated pre rooted 4.4 for i9505?
so i have been staying updated with the new kitkat roll out for the s4, i have a UK i9505 lte, i have seen the odin flashable file for a few country's so far, i was wondering if anyone can point me in the right direction to a clean deboated rom. i am currently running stock 4.2.2 UK rom rooted with a clockwork mod based recovery. unfortunately i have knox and its been tripped 0 x 1. if that makes a differance.
i have searched the development section but could not seem to find a debloated offcial kitkat rom, i would attempt making one. myself but i find the s4 much more confusing compared to the flashing process which came with my previous s2, and dont want to risk bricking my s4.
thanks in advance.
kind regards
kuljit55 said:
Is there a stock debloated pre rooted 4.4 for i9505?
so i have been staying updated with the new kitkat roll out for the s4, i have a UK i9505 lte, i have seen the odin flashable file for a few country's so far, i was wondering if anyone can point me in the right direction to a clean deboated rom. i am currently running stock 4.2.2 UK rom rooted with a clockwork mod based recovery. unfortunately i have knox and its been tripped 0 x 1. if that makes a differance.
i have searched the development section but could not seem to find a debloated offcial kitkat rom, i would attempt making one. myself but i find the s4 much more confusing compared to the flashing process which came with my previous s2, and dont want to risk bricking my s4.
thanks in advance.
kind regards
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There's a few out there, I recommend the below if you want stock, pre-rooted, debloated (customisable by you), without the Knox stuff (might not matter so much to you as you've already tripped it, but shouldn't matter).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2427629
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gsmyth said:
There's a few out there, I recommend the below if you want stock, pre-rooted, debloated (customisable by you), without the Knox stuff (might not matter so much to you as you've already tripped it, but shouldn't matter).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2427629
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thanks for your reply, i did see this, but i can read many users finding little bugs here and there, and i really was looking for a very reliable clean rom, with jjust minimum mods, il give this a try if there is no other clean stock kitkat released, or i may just flash the official with Odin and manually root and clean it up.
kuljit55 said:
thanks for your reply, i did see this, but i can read many users finding little bugs here and there, and i really was looking for a very reliable clean rom, with jjust minimum mods, il give this a try if there is no other clean stock kitkat released, or i may just flash the official with Odin and manually root and clean it up.
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Any issues are usually caused by not doing a clean install. There are the odd couple of things that seem to be caused by having the old (pre-knox) boot loader, but they will be fixed sooner or later. Again you should be fine if your already on the new boot loader anyway. Any problems just say, plenty of support and advice from the dev and users.
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I've been wanting to have Android 4.4.2 on my Note 3 N9005 for a long time and my Carrier still hasn't released official 4.4 update. I've had enough waiting and want to root and install a custom 4.4 rom on my Note 3 N9005(international). Would anyone be so kind to give me detailed information on how to do so, or at least point me in the right direction. I've also got a few questions.
1. Is there any way to leave Knox not tripped?
2. Is there any way to downgrade from a custom ROM to my official 4.3 rom if I'll need my garrancy?
Thanks in advance! :fingers-crossed:
markslo112 said:
I've been wanting to have Android 4.4.2 on my Note 3 N9005 for a long time and my Carrier still hasn't released official 4.4 update. I've had enough waiting and want to root and install a custom 4.4 rom on my Note 3 N9005(international). Would anyone be so kind to give me detailed information on how to do so, or at least point me in the right direction. I've also got a few questions.
1. Is there any way to leave Knox not tripped?
2. Is there any way to downgrade from a custom ROM to my official 4.3 rom if I'll need my garrancy?
Thanks in advance! :fingers-crossed:
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On N9005 there is no way back. Knowing that you must really analyze the benefits vs losses/risks. Which for instance for me at this point do not justify the move (but I am rooted and I already have 99% of what 4.4 brings).
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On N9005 there is no way back. Knowing that you must really analyze the benefits vs losses/risks. Which for instance for me at this point do not justify the move (but I am rooted and I already have 99% of what 4.4 brings).
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Are you suggesting that I should stay on my stock ROM and wait for 4.4? I've read things about 4.4 and a lot of people say it's a lot better than 4.3, faster, etc. I'm really tired of waiting, my carrier sucks.
If you just want to have 4.4.2 and stay official, pick one of any released official 4.4.2 firmwares available to flash.
Spoon feeding at it's finest...
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nlatifolia said:
If you just want to have 4.4.2 and stay official, pick one of any released official 4.4.2 firmwares available to flash.
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Alright, but do I need to be rooted or do I need to have a custom recovery before flashing via Odin? Will flashing an official ROM trigger Knox to 0x1 or will it leave it unchanged because I don't want my garrancy void?
@markslo112 you don't need nothing but your phone, usb cable and pc to flash with odin. Flashing an offcial rom will NOT trigger Knox!
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ione2380 said:
@markslo112 you don't need nothing but your phone, usb cable and pc to flash with odin. Flashing an offcial rom will NOT trigger Knox!
Sent from Note 3 Superphone!
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Ok that's good to hear. If I flash 4.4, will I still be able to install a custom recovery and then a custom Rom? I'm just asking because if I get tired of stock 4.4. Also, is it safe to flash via Odin? I don't want my phone to get bootloops or anything.
Thanks!
I think before you do anything to your phone for the good of yourself you better stop posting and do more reading instead in this forum. You will confuse yourself by asking more and seems not knowing what you are asking about.
markslo112 said:
Ok that's good to hear. If I flash 4.4, will I still be able to install a custom recovery and then a custom Rom? I'm just asking because if I get tired of stock 4.4. Also, is it safe to flash via Odin? I don't want my phone to get bootloops or anything.
Thanks!
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You will be able to install custom recovery/rom but it will trip your knox.
It is safe but do some reading maybe even watching a video or two on youtube to familiarize yourself on which files goes to which slot. Also, you won't be able to roll back to 4.3 at this time once you go to 4.4.
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I think before you do anything to your phone for the good of yourself you better stop posting and do more reading instead in this forum. You will confuse yourself by asking more and seems not knowing what you are asking about.
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Well I've actually rooted and installed custom ROMS on almost every other phone I had, but the Note 3 is far the best mobile I've had and I really don't want to screw anything up. I do have experience with Odin, but I've never had any experience with Knox as no other phones had it. But I will go ahead and read stuff up.
Thanks to everyone that helped though! :fingers-crossed:
UPDATE:
Alright, so I tried flashing an official 4.4.2 firmware for my region onto my Note 3 with 4.3 via Odin 3.09. It started perfectly, but then gave me an error which said "invalid ext4 image". After a long search I did manage to find a PIT file for my phone. I then tried flashing again, but this time with the PIT file that I downloaded. It flashed fine, had to factory reset and wipe cache also. :victory:
Okay awhile back I found a thread on the net to root the Galaxy S4 and change it to pure Kitkat. The only problem was it wasn't made for my phone, I think it was for another variance of the device. With that being said I want to try again and another site someone mentioned a ROM called AOSP....Is there a dummy-proof way of rooting the device and adding this or another ROM onto my ATT Samsung Galaxy S4?
I appreciate any assistance. I am somewhat familiar with rooting as I've rooted my older Droid X awhile back.
Thanks
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2283918
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Be careful that you know what you are doing before flashing roms to your phone. You should post more information about your device when asking a question (I.e. what carrier and firmware ,mdl, mf3, or mk2).
If you are on any firmware before the mf3 version(mdl) you can easily install a "custom recovery" like twrp or cwm to your S4 but the versions after would require a mod called "safestrap" to be installed which have a modified version of a custom recovery. It is similar but not the same.
Read around first to understand more. You may be lucky and have the version with an unlocked bootloader and that allows you to flash roms, kernels, and more.
But if you have the locked bootloader you can easily brick your phone and would need to odin back to a firmware and lose your data. Just look in settings>about phone and look at the last 3 letters in baseband.
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cyrusalmighty said:
Be careful that you know what you are doing before flashing roms to your phone. You should post more information about your device when asking a question (I.e. what carrier and firmware ,mdl, mf3, or mk2).
If you are on any firmware before the mf3 version(mdl) you can easily install a "custom recovery" like twrp or cwm to your S4 but the versions after would require a mod called "safestrap" to be installed which have a modified version of a custom recovery. It is similar but not the same.
Read around first to understand more. You may be lucky and have the version with an unlocked bootloader and that allows you to flash roms, kernels, and more.
But if you have the locked bootloader you can easily brick your phone and would need to odin back to a firmware and lose your data. Just look in settings>about phone and look at the last 3 letters in baseband.
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The baseband version or the last 3 letters are NB1 its the Galaxy S4 SGH-I337 from ATT
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sparker781 said:
The baseband version or the last 3 letters are NB1 its the Galaxy S4 SGH-I337 from ATT
Hope this helps
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Please read the forum before posting.. Your laziness is not respected if you want to root your device then you need to be able to research what your doing before you do it especially if you are on the xda forum... Look up the method to revert back to mk2 and then you can root for nb1 there is no method yet... And you cannot get the stock android experience which is aosp.
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