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Hey everyone.
I installed a leaked version of Froyo on my Galaxy 3 I5800. I'm using the hack to always install the apps on the memory card. However, only the main apks of the apps are being stored on the memory card. Any application data is still being stored on the internal memory. For example, installing Angry Birds takes 10 MB on the memory card, but also takes about 2 MB on the internal phone memory..
Apps2SD is a huge improvement, but still, if the data's being stored on the internal memory, I'm gonna run out of space some time or the other.
Is there a hack or something to make the phone keep even the data on the memory card? I've heard about Apps2Ext but not sure if that can be installed on my phone and whether it stores the app data on the EXT partition too.
Any ideas?
Android documentation says that even when app. is installed on SD card,
"The .apk file is saved on the external storage, but all private user data, databases, optimized .dex files, and extracted native code are saved on the internal device memory."
TekkenLaw said:
Android documentation says that even when app. is installed on SD card,
"The .apk file is saved on the external storage, but all private user data, databases, optimized .dex files, and extracted native code are saved on the internal device memory."
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May be that's better because program can run faster.. anyway you can solve it by creating of ext2 partition on your SD card and virtualy enlarge internal storage.
But I haven't found any manual how to do it on i5800.
Are there ext2 capabilities in the i5800's Froyo? I'm asking because 2.1 lacks them, much to my dismay. A Linuxish device with a closed file system (rfs) with no tools available (and FAT), erm...
addicted2088 said:
Hey everyone.
I installed a leaked version of Froyo on my Galaxy 3 I5800. I'm using the hack to always install the apps on the memory card. However, only the main apks of the apps are being stored on the memory card. Any application data is still being stored on the internal memory. For example, installing Angry Birds takes 10 MB on the memory card, but also takes about 2 MB on the internal phone memory..
Apps2SD is a huge improvement, but still, if the data's being stored on the internal memory, I'm gonna run out of space some time or the other.
Is there a hack or something to make the phone keep even the data on the memory card? I've heard about Apps2Ext but not sure if that can be installed on my phone and whether it stores the app data on the EXT partition too.
Any ideas?
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install move to SD first then choose the option Exteral SD.Anything you install from now on will be installed to the SDCARD but aware the widgets and programs that require root doesn't work well in the SDCARD together with home replacement program.Unless of course the app itself support installing to SD.
banahaw said:
install move to SD first then choose the option Exteral SD.Anything you install from now on will be installed to the SDCARD but aware the widgets and programs that require root doesn't work well in the SDCARD together with home replacement program.Unless of course the app itself support installing to SD.
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this is what he did. But not everything will be saved to SD. This is the what he says.
nastyba said:
this is what he did. But not everything will be saved to SD. This is the what he says.
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Yeah, the APK file, that is the main package, is installed on the SD card. However, all the data that the application actually saves are usually on the internal device memory.
I have enabled Move to SD and set the install path to external, but it will still save application data on the phone memory. That is how Android is designed to work
banahaw said:
install move to SD first then choose the option Exteral SD.Anything you install from now on will be installed to the SDCARD but aware the widgets and programs that require root doesn't work well in the SDCARD together with home replacement program.Unless of course the app itself support installing to SD.
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Oh yes, I'm aware of all this. But still wanted to mention the point that the internal memory will always get used..
addicted2088 said:
Oh yes, I'm aware of all this. But still wanted to mention the point that the internal memory will always get used..
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you can extend your internal storage with your SD card, but you need to create ext2 partition on your SD card first and then <i>and this is the problem</i> explain to your i5800 to use this partion on SD card.
I've red many articles about it on HTC / SE phones where this method work. They say that the ROM must be customized, which haven't been done yet with our phone. The problem is, that the good programmers have Desire / or SGS and they do not care about the i5800
nastyba said:
you can extend your internal storage with your SD card, but you need to create ext2 partition on your SD card first
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And this is where the problem starts: The i5800 cannot handle ext2, at least not with its stock roms. You're stuck with an exotic proprietary file system (rfs) for which no tools are available.
mizch said:
And this is where the problem starts: The i5800 cannot handle ext2, at least not with its stock roms. You're stuck with an exotic proprietary file system (rfs) for which no tools are available.
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may be one day there will be a custom rom which will allows it
nastyba said:
may be one day there will be a custom rom which will allows it
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mizch said:
And this is where the problem starts: The i5800 cannot handle ext2, at least not with its stock roms. You're stuck with an exotic proprietary file system (rfs) for which no tools are available.
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Is this problem allready solved?
Because my bro has problems with the little internal space.
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Is this problem allready solved?
Because my bro has problems with the little internal space.
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Yes. For that you need to first flash a fugumod kernel. Then you can use Kyrillos' apptosd script from here. You need to use apptosd script v3 if you want your /data/data to be transferred to your SD. But script v3 works good only with class 6 SD card or higher.
Oh yes. You need to convert your data partition to ext4 and create an ext4 partition in SD card also.
ok formating...
seems that i have here a class 4 sd card 8gb... damn it!
I am currently on Kyrillos 6.1. If i create an EXT4 partition in my SD card, via CWM recovery, how can i move the apps which are already installed in my phone memory to that partition? Like if i use Titanium backup, then would moving the apps would go to FAT partition or the newly created EXT4 partition?
mrn123 said:
I am currently on Kyrillos 6.1. If i create an EXT4 partition in my SD card, via CWM recovery, how can i move the apps which are already installed in my phone memory to that partition? Like if i use Titanium backup, then would moving the apps would go to FAT partition or the newly created EXT4 partition?
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First backup your apps using titanuim backup. It will get backed up in SD card. Then copy the backed up apps and the rest of the stuff in your SD card to your PC. Then goto recovery, advanced, partition SD card. Create the required partitions. All data in SD card will be erased. Then in recovery only, wipe data. Then reboot. After that all the apps which you install will goto the ext partition that you created.
Thanks Dhiren!!! I was just wondering whether there was any way to directly move the apps to the EXT4 partition which are already installed on phone memory..I shall try out as you said...
Hello again, I need clarification with this subject...
I had a difficult time in rooting my android, thinking I failed. so for many times I rooted, installed xrecovery, then most importantly apps2sd. but I don't think it works, then I found all about Links2sd. I installed it, and each time after installing I always select the "link2sd" option, and I check the include davlik cache, but my phone memory is continually decreasing... is this normal or not? could there be a conflict with apps2sd and link2sd since I don't know if I have deleted apps2sd. sorry I'm an android newbie. Thanks..
Well... if you had app2sd link2sd would monit about it and asked you to uninstall it first.
If you don't know if your phone is rooted, look through apps - if you have a superuser app - you're rooted
As for link2sd working or not: connect your phone to the computer and open minitool partition wizard home. It will see your ext2 partition along with free and occupied space. If there are any apps on ext2 partition of your SD card - apps are installing there and the slight decrease of space is due to the existing shortcut files. Because you have created ext2 partition, haven't you?...
I did what you said and yes I found files on the other partition I created. but problem is, some files still go to the phone memory, for example the game app "ninjump" has 15mb installed on the phone memory while on links2sd it shows that it is linked to the sd card.
also, I tried removing the memory card, and when I turned on my x8 the programs were missing, so I suppose links2sd is working.
only problem is now is that some chunks are still installed to the phone memory. is there a way of totally redirecting everything to the sd card?
link2sd: Leave data files in Internal Memory, and you can choose the apps to SD
app2sd: Copy all data from the application to the SD, It's all automatic
nowonanx8 said:
I did what you said and yes I found files on the other partition I created. but problem is, some files still go to the phone memory, for example the game app "ninjump" has 15mb installed on the phone memory while on links2sd it shows that it is linked to the sd card.
also, I tried removing the memory card, and when I turned on my x8 the programs were missing, so I suppose links2sd is working.
only problem is now is that some chunks are still installed to the phone memory. is there a way of totally redirecting everything to the sd card?
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Ok, here's the deal - how many times did you install ninjump in the past? If more then once, and meanwhile you moved it to or from ext2 it might have (though the probability is very slight) that you have two apps - one in internal storage and one in ext2 storage.
So, navigate into ext2 partition (it's a folder in root directory - sdext or so) and look for this app. It might be hard, as names of linked apps are somewhat messed up, but there should be icons If there is no app on ext2, try switching it back to internal mode and then onto ext2 again - perhaps without linking dalvik cache.
chequebo1 said:
link2sd: Leave data files in Internal Memory, and you can choose the apps to SD
app2sd: Copy all data from the application to the SD, It's all automatic
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Thank you, that was sooooo relevant!
APP2SD
I having problem with the app2sd too..i dunno whether it works...This is what i had done..I had busybox, superuser, and xrecovery installed and rooted. But when come to partitioning the sd card, i partitioned it into 3 parts : FAt, ext2 and ext3...after that i installed the update.zip and custom zip of app2sd...the phone starts not recognizing the sd partition...anyone can help here??
I use titanium backup to see app2sd works or not. if a2sd decrease, so it work.
if internal still decrease, I guess some file or even some app just can't work with app2sd.
one question too, how or can I move games data from fat sdcard to ext2 partition? like gameloft data. I need my fat space for other file
Graveir said:
Ok, here's the deal - how many times did you install ninjump in the past? If more then once, and meanwhile you moved it to or from ext2 it might have (though the probability is very slight) that you have two apps - one in internal storage and one in ext2 storage.
So, navigate into ext2 partition (it's a folder in root directory - sdext or so) and look for this app. It might be hard, as names of linked apps are somewhat messed up, but there should be icons If there is no app on ext2, try switching it back to internal mode and then onto ext2 again - perhaps without linking dalvik cache.
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I tried navigating to the ext2 partition using minitool partition wizard, and I indeed saw files that I have installed there. so do you mean that apps2sd is better than links2sd? thanks..
Well... I'm not saying anything is better, though I used both solutions in three different ways.
For stock SE ROM link2sd is better, since you only need to partition SD card into primary fat32 and primary ext2 - nothing more. Then you install an app and all works fine.
With custom ROM you cannot use link2sd, since they all have app2sd hack preinstalled (well, you can always modify files, but what for?). Problem occurs when you have this hack AND ext2 partition. The hack then moves automatically all your apps to ext2 memory along with dalvik cache if you install them in internal storage. If you install in external storage, the app goes to fat32 secure folder and dalvik cache remains in ext2. If you don't have any ext on custom ROM, dalvik cache is always in internal storage, while you can move any non-system app onto fat32 sd card.
The ext2 solution in custom ROMs may seem convinient, but for me it was not. When you use apps like phone locator, they should always dwell in internal memory, since SD card can be easily taken out, while deleting such an app from a remotely locked down phone would require flashing, otherwise the device is useless for the thief
Well actually both app2sd and link2sd are typically similliar. I've tried app2sd before and it still leave some files in internal memory. So will link2sd. But link2sd is much more easier to use because once your phone is rooted you just need to install it on your phone without going through the adb shell thing. Easy for newbie for sure. But you just have to manually link new installed applications and games. That's what differ link2sd with app2sd. Now I'm using link2sd. If you want to make sure, why don't you try those froyo phone. Try to use the app2sd stuff on those phone. They still install some applications on their internal as well although they have built in app2sd.
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installed link2d on stockrom after root with universal androot and formatted the second partition with fat32 since it doesn't support extX partitions.
Everything works.
link2sd asks what to link: app, dalvik-cache and library
Maybe must play with these settings to have WIDGETS still working when linked ?
I remember they usually stop working when installed on sd...
this omap is really fast !!!
with flash working great too !
I've used it just for games and a few things that are bulky like opera. I didn't try and widgets/livewallpapers because of the time spent preparing the SD card on startup.
It's so much easier using this when you don't have to worry about apps eating up all of your available storage.
I use it with almost everything. Only things that I'd like to have available when things go wrong and I have to boot without the card, I leave unlinked.
BTW. I'm using a kernel driver that was in the app2card .apk file to allow be to mount the partition as ext2 instead of fat32
A good thread on how to re-partition the SD card
Thanks to bakpinar
ghostwheel said:
I use it with almost everything. Only things that I'd like to have available when things go wrong and I have to boot without the card, I leave unlinked.
BTW. I'm using a kernel driver that was in the app2card .apk file to allow be to mount the partition as ext2 instead of fat32
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Can you post details about the driver file to use? I guess you must move it somewhere...
I dont need them since i'm happy with fat32 but someone could find them useful
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I'd be interested in finding out what you did to get app2card working....
I used it to partition the sd card fine (well when i finally managed to click the done button... grr...) and it copied apps to the same partition but it won't mount the partition and has kept the apps in the main memory too...
is there better apps or a way to do it that's easier?
does the flipout support ext2?
I love this phone to bits already but it's a major let down when you can only get a few apps on it with it being full and having a fit!!
Meh.... tried link2sd... now my home button doesn't work and nothing will download from the market...
hey guys I was doing a little searching around and was reading a thread in the ARC section which eventually lead me to this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1310309
Now check out this beefy internal storage Thats 3.5 gigabytes!!!
It's data2ext, I can send you some links for some scripts, but be warned, if you dont have a class 10 SD Card, your phone will grind to a holt
I'm using a class 4 with that mod and it's working great tons of space for whatever I've got no force closes all my apps work just as they should with no problems at all
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This looks great! But do i have to flash my device for this, and do i have to install everything again? Like your using the phone for the first time?
crash_b. said:
This looks great! But do i have to flash my device for this, and do i have to install everything again? Like your using the phone for the first time?
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No it works like apps2sd, but rather than just symlinking /data/app and /dalvik-cache/ it symlinks the whole data partition. so all your apps would be auto symlinked. You will need a custom kernel with init.d support though.
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thatsupnow said:
I'm using a class 4 with that mod and it's working great tons of space for whatever I've got no force closes all my apps work just as they should with no problems at all
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Cool maybe data2ext has been improved since i lasted tried it on my Desire HD
AndroHero said:
No it works like apps2sd, but rather than just symlinking /data/app and /dalvik-cache/ it symlinks the whole data partition. so all your apps would be auto symlinked. You will need a custom kernel with init.d support though.
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Does this work on all DoomLord's kernels?
The end result is so cool, im just not confident on myself enough to do the procedure yet, its all technical for me
I'm using Link2Sd for internal storage issues for now..
noojster said:
Does this work on all DoomLord's kernels?
The end result is so cool, im just not confident on myself enough to do the procedure yet, its all technical for me
I'm using Link2Sd for internal storage issues for now..
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I haven't tried on all dooms kernels so far just the CM kernel and all I did was make a partition from recovery, I made a ext4, then flash the script it was just that easy now I've got space for whatever I need. I made a modest 1.5 gig partition and away I went
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I get problems with internal storage, but mine are different. I'll have 70 megs free, but if I want to update a bunch of apps that are ~5 megs each, it'll say I don't have enough free space and stops. ugh.
dassub said:
I get problems with internal storage, but mine are different. I'll have 70 megs free, but if I want to update a bunch of apps that are ~5 megs each, it'll say I don't have enough free space and stops. ugh.
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I had that very same problem when I moved the dalvik cache then I came across this script and problem solved!
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dassub said:
I get problems with internal storage, but mine are different. I'll have 70 megs free, but if I want to update a bunch of apps that are ~5 megs each, it'll say I don't have enough free space and stops. ugh.
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You need to clear your /cache/
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thatsupnow said:
I haven't tried on all dooms kernels so far just the CM kernel and all I did was make a partition from recovery, I made a ext4, then flash the script it was just that easy now I've got space for whatever I need. I made a modest 1.5 gig partition and away I went
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Edit: found the problem.
another way to free up internal memory
check this out.... force moving apps to sd card
muffinresearch.co. uk/archives/2011/02/02/android-force-moving-apps-to-an-sd-card
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Edit: found the problem.
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Did you get that working on the other doom kernels?
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I thought i did, but it still was buggy. Simcard problems and bootloops. Unfortunately...
Tried latest DoomKernel and v06.
So i went back to link2sd.
The original thread seems dead, i posted there, but no response.
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You need to clear your /cache/
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Is this the same as clearing the dalvik cache? I've done that in TB.
Please help. I don't know which method is better to move those unmovable apps.
Hi!
I need help, please.
My internal storage is very low (getting a message). I have gone through all the apps and moved everything that can to SD Card.
I don't know which method is better to move those unmovable apps to the SD card.
I have a Sony Xperia Play
My Phone details:
Model - R800i
Android Version - 2.3.4
Kernel Version - 2.6.32.9-perf [email protected] #1
Build - 4.0.2.A.0.42
I have heard about Titanium Backup root, DroidSail Super App2SD, adb, Link2SD and so on.
The methods above can let me move those unmovable apps to the SD card.
What are the advantages and disadvantages of them? How do they compare? Which method is safer or more reliable? Which method can move more apps?
If you know, please let me know, thanks.
I look forward to this, thanks.
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I got this information from the official Link2SD website, this is comparing Native apps2SD to Link2SD. But I don't know how Link2SD compared with Titanium Backup root, DroidSail Super App2SD, adb and so on. If you know which method is safer or more reliable and which method can move more apps, please let me know, thanks.
Comparision of Native apps2sd and Link2SD:
(Native apps2sd
Starting with Android 2.2 (Froyo) Google introduced native apps2SD.
This method moves
* apk file on Android 2.2
* apk + lib files on Android 2.3+
into a secure folder on your SD card in the main FAT partition.
It is the easiest method because it doesn't require you to partition your sdcard and root privilige.
It has some disadvantages though.
First disadvantage is that application files are just stored on the sdcard's main FAT partition.
When you enable USB mass storage to share files with your computer (or otherwise unmounts or removes the external storage), any application installed on the external storage and currently running is killed.
The system effectively becomes unaware of the application until mass storage is disabled and the external storage is remounted on the device.
Besides killing the application and making it unavailable to the user, this can break some types of applications in a more serious way.
So second disadvantage is that not all apps can be moved with native apps2sd method because of above reason.
In order for the application to consistently behave as expected, developer should not allow the application to be installed on the external storage if it uses any of the following features, due to the cited consequences when the external storage is unmounted:
Widgets, Services, Alarm Services, Live Wallpapers, Live Folders, Account Managers, Sync Adapters, Broadcast Receivers listening for "boot completed".
Force move (requires root);
You can force the apps move to SD card with native apps2SD even the application does not support moving as described above.
Link2SD and some other apps can force move apps if you have root priviliges. But, note that this can break some applications, as described above.
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i can't use that on trueanscetor and NXT ( with doom kernel )
it goes on boot-loop , sometimes it succeed to boot but can't detect my sim-card ( i couldn't have call )
can you please help me
Which method of moving those unmovable apps to SD is better, safer and more stable?
Hi!
I need help, please.
My internal storage is very low (getting a message). I have gone through all the apps and moved everything that can to SD Card.
I don't know which method is better to move those unmovable apps to the SD card.
I have a Sony Xperia Play
My Phone details:
Model - R800i
Android Version - 2.3.4
Kernel Version - 2.6.32.9-perf [email protected] #1
Build - 4.0.2.A.0.42
I have heard about Titanium Backup root, DroidSail Super App2SD, adb, Link2SD and so on.
The methods above can let me move those unmovable apps to the SD card.
What are the advantages and disadvantages of them? How do they compare? Which method is safer, more reliable or more stable? Which method can move more apps?
If you know, please let me know, thanks.
I look forward to this, thanks.
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I got this information from the official Link2SD website, this is comparing Native apps2SD to Link2SD. But I don't know how Link2SD compared with Titanium Backup root, DroidSail Super App2SD, adb and so on. If you know which method is safer or more reliable and which method can move more apps, please let me know, thanks.
Comparision of Native apps2sd and Link2SD:
(Native apps2sd
Starting with Android 2.2 (Froyo) Google introduced native apps2SD.
This method moves
* apk file on Android 2.2
* apk + lib files on Android 2.3+
into a secure folder on your SD card in the main FAT partition.
It is the easiest method because it doesn't require you to partition your sdcard and root privilige.
It has some disadvantages though.
First disadvantage is that application files are just stored on the sdcard's main FAT partition.
When you enable USB mass storage to share files with your computer (or otherwise unmounts or removes the external storage), any application installed on the external storage and currently running is killed.
The system effectively becomes unaware of the application until mass storage is disabled and the external storage is remounted on the device.
Besides killing the application and making it unavailable to the user, this can break some types of applications in a more serious way.
So second disadvantage is that not all apps can be moved with native apps2sd method because of above reason.
In order for the application to consistently behave as expected, developer should not allow the application to be installed on the external storage if it uses any of the following features, due to the cited consequences when the external storage is unmounted:
Widgets, Services, Alarm Services, Live Wallpapers, Live Folders, Account Managers, Sync Adapters, Broadcast Receivers listening for "boot completed".
Force move (requires root);
You can force the apps move to SD card with native apps2SD even the application does not support moving as described above.
Link2SD and some other apps can force move apps if you have root priviliges. But, note that this can break some applications, as described above.
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I can vouch for link 2 SD. Gave me quite a lot more storage space. "Lordbattlebeard" helped me set it up in another thread. Admittedly, I don't know much about the other 2 so can't help on that front
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I've tried many combinations of partition types and numbers and cannot get Link2SD to accept my second partition. I had similarly bad luck with App2SD. Is there a known good combination of app, card, partition type, size, and number that lets me offload my apps onto the external SD card? I'm using a rooted but otherwise stock GT550T rom for T-Mobile. I have a 200GB Sandisk microSD card. 8GB phone with 4GB taken by default and I couldn't find much to remove. Any other good ideas as to how I can get my apps installed. Even with 0 games I cannot install my usual suite.
i have been experiencing the exact same problem, tried both apps2sd and link2sd, still no luck.. i actually managed to corrupt a brand new card, had to go exchange it. no luck with ext4 or any others... i hope we get some assistance
Yep. What they said.
Same issue. Any fix yet?
I would also like to know a way to get Apps2SD or Link2SD working.
Hey! Androeds 4.1up the link2sd does not work anymore if all of you, does not creates universal odexes for each app in sdext2. The zygote of libs in androed 4.4+ does not permits dalvik cache outside datadir.
The solution is odex all apps one by one, because gogle system apps never recognized and will never recognize odexed apps as third apps.
Is a long war against themselves new dumb zygote for deny odexes in sdext2 :
You need only copy the created odexes inside sdext2 togheter with apk's dir and link mannually, and finnally, delete the relative dex.
The rest is normally linked by link2sd
Apps2sd works for me. I am not rooted though. Let's try to troubleshoot. Go into settings/storage and make sure the sdcard is mounted and formatted. See if your screens match mine.
Apps 2sd is a lie!
Only a Half part of app comes to a dumb system in /mnt/secure and /mnt/asec.
Is a lie!
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If you root your device, install link2sd (the real sdext linker) your apps will go to sdcard.
On androeds 4.1+ the .dex files need to be PURGED AND PUNCHED OUT DUE TO GOGLE'S SICKNESS NEW DUMB ZYGOTE, and converted to .odex.
I really like the phone itself, i honestly hope someone is able to make a rom for it. Cause out of the box i have basically no storage for apps and the apps 2 sd function in the rom only lets you move a handful of apps.
LINK2SD works on the Samsung Galaxy On5. I moved many apps and have tons of space now.
I don't know how typical my situation is, but I am having the same issue and thought i would attempt to provide a bit more in the way of detail.
My On5 is rooted with TWRP installed and functioning apparently normally. I can run apps that require root without issue, Titanium Backup for example. I have installed SuperSU and BusyBox which seem to behave normally, but Root Checker recognizes root and BusyBox but not SU Access.
When I try to use Link2SD, it doesn't recognize my second partition, and won't create a mount script. I can enter SU through terminal mode, and created /etc/fstab with mounting details for the second partition, but Link2SD still doesn't see it. Consequently, I can use the Move to SD function with some apps, but Link to SD is not functional.
I would contact LINK2SD support and ask them if the app is even capable of handling multiple partitions. My guess is no.
Link2SD not only is capable of handling second partitions, it requires them for the Link to SD function. I followed their instructions carefully for creating an appropriately formatted second partition. The issue seems to be that the phone won't allow it to mount. That is why I posted here.
n5dkj said:
Link2SD not only is capable of handling second partitions, it requires them for the Link to SD function. I followed their instructions carefully for creating an appropriately formatted second partition. The issue seems to be that the phone won't allow it to mount. That is why I posted here.
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Yes I am sorry, that is why I should post before I have coffee. I see you need an ext4 and a fat formatted... I got it to work. Here are my exact steps..
1. Down root essentials, LINK2SD from app store. Also must be rooted and have TWRP installed. I also suggest a full backup.. Then move the backup to your computer, free space on the phone... Don't leave the backup on the sdcard as it about to be partioned and formatted!!!!!!!!!!!!
2. If you already did this and tried adoptable let storage then use the 'revert changes' and reboot
3. Go into settings a d format sdcard as standard Portable Storage. Click cancel or no if it wants to move anything over.
4. Go into root essentials, storage tab and click adoptable storage
5. Follow procedures to download apk needed (the app will automatically load the web page).. Edit.. When used how much percent of the sdcard to use It's elected 50%.. I am using a 16gb card.. So I split it down the middle.
6. Power down phone
7. Hold down volume up+home+power until logo appears... Essentially go into twrp
8. Do a kernel (system) backup if you haven't yet recently.
9. Flash Apk which will automatically reboot phone
10. Not sure this is important but I waited for my phone to full boot... Paying particular attention to the Toast saying that room essentials has been granted full permissions....
10b... Do not go into storage settings and try to format the second part of the partition... It's already been formatted..
11. Went into LINK2SD, Settings... And pressed 'app location' got a weird warning about hierarchical something or whatnot.. Pressed it a few times and finally got the right screen. SELECTED EXTERNAL.
That was it... Now when I move apps with LINK2SD it seems like a ton of more free space is clearing on the internal... Before when I moved apps I think it was just moving the data..
I got it working temporarily but somehow it started making apps unusable and un-re-installable again. I'll do a factory reset and reroot (I think I just have to sideload SU) and try your step by step this weekend.
The other possibility is the apps that come with the phone are so big they don't fit in the 8gb that comes with it. Every time a Google app gets an update I lose more space and I cannot move those apps to my knowledge. Its getting harder and harder. With this method do I get true adoptable storage? As in all apps and data share the space?
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I got it working temporarily but somehow it started making apps unusable and un-re-installable again. I'll do a factory reset and reroot (I think I just have to sideload SU) and try your step by step this weekend.
The other possibility is the apps that come with the phone are so big they don't fit in the 8gb that comes with it. Every time a Google app gets an update I lose more space and I cannot move those apps to my knowledge. Its getting harder and harder. With this method do I get true adoptable storage? As in all apps and data share the space?
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Most apps are under 100MB.. Even if they download extra data there is no way any one particular app is over 8GB...
Try this...
Sort the LINK2SD app list by 'size internal'
Uninstall the top 3-4 apps that take the most space
Move any system apps you moved to the sdcard back to internal
Clear the app cache and dalvik caches
Reboot
Reformat sdcard
Reboot
Then try my steps to get adoptable storage...
Report back if you can
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cracker_jax said:
I got it working temporarily but somehow it started making apps unusable and un-re-installable again. I'll do a factory reset and reroot (I think I just have to sideload SU) and try your step by step this weekend.
The other possibility is the apps that come with the phone are so big they don't fit in the 8gb that comes with it. Every time a Google app gets an update I lose more space and I cannot move those apps to my knowledge. Its getting harder and harder. With this method do I get true adoptable storage? As in all apps and data share the space?
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PS I heard rebooting after you move the apps to SD seems to also fix the problem.
djmcho said:
Most apps are under 100MB.. Even if they download extra data there is no way any one particular app is over 8GB...
Try this...
Sort the LINK2SD app list by 'size internal'
Uninstall the top 3-4 apps that take the most space
Move any system apps you moved to the sdcard back to internal
Clear the app cache and dalvik caches
Reboot
Reformat sdcard
Reboot
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I did the instructions to get adoptable storage and it appeared to work (adoptable worked anyway) but Link2SD has no functionality with moving anything anywhere. The card is not formatted correctly for Link2SD. The main (SD) partition is receiving apps (migrate to SD built into Android) but very few and the internal storage fills up quickly. Basically the apps that work via App2SD were able to be migrated with the migrate button in Settings > Storage. I'd consider formatting the SD card's second partition so Link2SD could work on it again but I know already that it won't work with the "data" of the apps, even with Link2SD plus. I had limited success with FolderMount but that is a pain and I'm not sure it worked at all. Having data exist in two places seems to confuse my phone. Adoptable storage seems to be dead with most apps refusing to use it and Link2SD seems to be dead as it won't move most of my data without breaking the app.
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I did the instructions to get adoptable storage and it appeared to work (adoptable worked anyway) but Link2SD has no functionality with moving anything anywhere. The card is not formatted correctly for Link2SD. The main (SD) partition is receiving apps (migrate to SD built into Android) but very few and the internal storage fills up quickly. Basically the apps that work via App2SD were able to be migrated with the migrate button in Settings > Storage. I'd consider formatting the SD card's second partition so Link2SD could work on it again but I know already that it won't work with the "data" of the apps, even with Link2SD plus. I had limited success with FolderMount but that is a pain and I'm not sure it worked at all. Having data exist in two places seems to confuse my phone. Adoptable storage seems to be dead with most apps refusing to use it and Link2SD seems to be dead as it won't move most of my data without breaking the app.
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App have to be enabled by the developer to move the data with the app, Dex etc.. For example Waze is... Here is my files list view from links2sd about Waze... As you can see everything Def moved over to the adoptable storage.
cracker_jax said:
I did the instructions to get adoptable storage and it appeared to work (adoptable worked anyway) but Link2SD has no functionality with moving anything anywhere. The card is not formatted correctly for Link2SD. The main (SD) partition is receiving apps (migrate to SD built into Android) but very few and the internal storage fills up quickly. Basically the apps that work via App2SD were able to be migrated with the migrate button in Settings > Storage. I'd consider formatting the SD card's second partition so Link2SD could work on it again but I know already that it won't work with the "data" of the apps, even with Link2SD plus. I had limited success with FolderMount but that is a pain and I'm not sure it worked at all. Having data exist in two places seems to confuse my phone. Adoptable storage seems to be dead with most apps refusing to use it and Link2SD seems to be dead as it won't move most of my data without breaking the app.
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Where as chrome is not set by the developer to allow moving stuff like data over to SDcard. See attached... You will see some is on the phone and some is onbthe sdcard. If you want to move data over to the sdcard for apps that are not designed to do so you could purchase the pro version of Link2SD that allows for the forcing of data by creating linking. You might be able to do it for free using terminal emulator and the Linux linking command, which escapes me right now..
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Where as chrome is not set by the developer to allow moving stuff like data over to SDcard. See attached... You will see some is on the phone and some is onbthe sdcard. If you want to move data over to the sdcard for apps that are not designed to do so you could purchase the pro version of Link2SD that allows for the forcing of data by creating linking. You might be able to do it for free using terminal emulator and the Linux linking command, which escapes me right now..
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My problem with the Plus version of Link2SD, which I purchased, is that whenever I liked the data portion (IIRC) the newly moved app would immediately force-quit when opening after that. So I would move the data back. It would still force-quit. So I would uninstall and reinstall. It would still force-quit. Sooooo if and when I used that function it completely broke the app until I did a factory reset.
Now, Link2SD plus has nothing to do with adoptable storage as I was able to move apk and data over simply by getting the correct formatting on my SD card, though I don't remember the correct combination of ext2,3,4 partitions that made it work. What I do remember is after that I would only ruin apps by moving the data. Now, with adoptable storage, Link2SD cannot use the card at all though I haven't tried reformatting the second partition as an ext2,3,4,whatever.
Maybe go back to trying to get support from Link2SD developer?
djmcho said:
That was it... Now when I move apps with LINK2SD it seems like a ton of more free space is clearing on the internal... Before when I moved apps I think it was just moving the data..
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Excellent!! I just got time to try it, and I now have much more available space. Thanks for your help!