Heart rate monitor - Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

My doctor told me today I should get a heart rate monitor with an alarm. So I can easily look at my wrist, see I'm getting stressed out and chill myself out. I figured this may be my excuse to get a smartwatch, but I want to make sure it will do what I want before spending the money.
So.. if I got, say, an Asus Zenwatch, is there an app I can run that will notify me when my heart rate is high? The one my doctor uses has a red LED that lights up above a set number and I'd like to closely duplicate that - NOT necessarily having my HR always visible, but the alert always visible. Thanks in advance!

qoncept said:
My doctor told me today I should get a heart rate monitor with an alarm. So I can easily look at my wrist, see I'm getting stressed out and chill myself out. I figured this may be my excuse to get a smartwatch, but I want to make sure it will do what I want before spending the money.
So.. if I got, say, an Asus Zenwatch, is there an app I can run that will notify me when my heart rate is high? The one my doctor uses has a red LED that lights up above a set number and I'd like to closely duplicate that - NOT necessarily having my HR always visible, but the alert always visible. Thanks in advance!
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I think you should ask your doctor exactly what he recommends. So many problems here.
1. zen watch uses ekg by touching the bezel with your free hand. Nothing automatic about it. I suppose if you get in the habit of catching yourself feeling stressed and checking your pulse, this might work, but reviews say it's not accurate.
2.No android watch automatically does continuous monitoring. Moto 360 includes an app to do spot checks. I don't know if that software has an alarm function.
3.There are a few 3rd party apps that will check your pulse at some interval. No idea if they have an alarm function.
4.Most importantly: if this is something you are seriously counting on for your health, an android wear watch as a hrm is a bad idea. Not the gear live, the 360, nor the gw-r have highly reliable PPG sensor. Also, some people are able to get good, reliable readings at their wrist. Many are not.
PPG/optical heart sensors for continuous reading suck a (relative) lot of power thanks to the LEDs shining onto your skin. The best consumer ones for exercise use on the market last 10 hours, max.
A chest sensor (back to EKG) lasts MUCH longer. I can't see wearing that all day, though. If your doctor's plan is to get you to use something for maybe a week so you learn when you're stressing, I can see dealing with this for a while. But as a long-term solution? No, thanks.
I'm very curious to hear what exactly your doctor has in mind. I think a fingertip pulseox reader that you can slip on as needed would strike the best compromise of accuracy and convenience.

qoncept said:
My doctor told me today I should get a heart rate monitor with an alarm. So I can easily look at my wrist, see I'm getting stressed out and chill myself out. I figured this may be my excuse to get a smartwatch, but I want to make sure it will do what I want before spending the money.
So.. if I got, say, an Asus Zenwatch, is there an app I can run that will notify me when my heart rate is high? The one my doctor uses has a red LED that lights up above a set number and I'd like to closely duplicate that - NOT necessarily having my HR always visible, but the alert always visible. Thanks in advance!
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I just release an app for continuously checking heart rate in background : http://forum.xda-developers.com/android-wear/general/app-heart-rate-os-android-wear-google-t3031964
It's new so more features will come, you might want to check if it suitable with your case

qoncept said:
My doctor told me today I should get a heart rate monitor with an alarm. So I can easily look at my wrist, see I'm getting stressed out and chill myself out. I figured this may be my excuse to get a smartwatch, but I want to make sure it will do what I want before spending the money.
So.. if I got, say, an Asus Zenwatch, is there an app I can run that will notify me when my heart rate is high? The one my doctor uses has a red LED that lights up above a set number and I'd like to closely duplicate that - NOT necessarily having my HR always visible, but the alert always visible. Thanks in advance!
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None of the current batch of android wear watches can accurately measure heart rate, let alone continuous measure, due to their sensors and the algorithm being used. Mio alpha/ mio fuse are the only accurate wrist band available in the market. You may wanna check it out.

I've got both a Mio Link and the Gear Live and have used the Mio for the last year during my runs. I wore both on my last run, and at steady state they aren't any more than 2-3 BPM apart. It's a different story when heart rate is going up or down. The Mio tends to track heart rate more closely (maybe a few seconds lag from reality). If I stop running and my heart rate starts to drop from the 150s, the Gear just stays in the 150s while the Mio shows it accurately. Could be the one LED vs 2 LEDs on the Mio, it puts out quite a bit more light. I'm also sweating pretty heavily by that time. Sweat and weaker lights, all other things equal, would give inaccurate readings if any at all.

I highly recommend everyone read this article and view the related video there too.
And also read why Apple decided against heart rate and other health sensors in their watches.
None of these wearables work like a chest monitor, the wearables are doing a lot of guess work and are not what you need if you want accuracy or something to show a doctor. I typically use my LG G Watch R during workouts, but I also have a real chest monitor, for when I want to see the real deal.
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Darnell_Chat_TN said:
I highly recommend everyone read this article and view the related video there too.
And also read why Apple decided against heart rate and other health sensors in their watches.
None of these wearables work like a chest monitor, the wearables are doing a lot of guess work and are not what you need if you want accuracy or something to show a doctor. I typically use my LG G Watch R during workouts, but I also have a real chest monitor, for when I want to see the real deal.
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That cnet article implies the PPG sensor is gone, but the wsj report that it's based on doesn't say they've axed it, just other functions like glucose monitoring. Nothing on the apple website about heart rate has been removed, either.

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That cnet article implies the PPG sensor is gone, but the wsj report that it's based on doesn't say they've axed it, just other functions like glucose monitoring. Nothing on the apple website about heart rate has been removed, either.
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You mean the ZDNet article.
If you have WSJ access, read paragraphs 1 & 2 of this article. It's pretty clear, they wanted a heart rate monitor and decided against that, and against a host of other health features.
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Thanks for all the input guys, I guess a smart watch wasn't in the cards for now. I'm more concerned about constant monitoring than absolute accuracy. I ended up buying a Fitbit Charge HR over the weekend. There's no alarm like I hoped for, but I can easily look at it and get what seems to be a relatively consistent reading. I don't think this is a permanent solution but it'll work for now.
Now to start digging up Fitbit hacks. Thanks again!

Darnell_Chat_TN said:
You mean the ZDNet article.
If you have WSJ access, read paragraphs 1 & 2 of this article. It's pretty clear, they wanted a heart rate monitor and decided against that, and against a host of other health features.
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No access for me. Is this it?
"But these features didn’t perform consistently on some people, including those with hairy arms or dry skin. Results also varied depending on how tightly the person wore the Watch, they said. Instead, Apple opted for more pedestrian pulse-rate monitoring, these people said."
(from bgr.com)

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No access for me. Is this it?
"But these features didn’t perform consistently on some people, including those with hairy arms or dry skin. Results also varied depending on how tightly the person wore the Watch, they said. Instead, Apple opted for more pedestrian pulse-rate monitoring, these people said."
(from bgr.com)
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No, that paragraph is near the very end.
They were looking to make a far more advanced heart rate monitor. They may mirror what is in other wearables, but it's nothing like they envisioned. And a given that present wearable heart rate monitors are not medically reliable. This article reflects more of the WSJ article.

I agree that if you put one of these hrm on 1,000 people once or twice, the accuracy probably isn't that great. When you run almost every day with one, you pretty much figure out how to get accurate readings. I've been using that Mio Link for at least a year and a half, and I can say when it's connected to my watch (probably 95% of the time) it's pretty dead on. The whole range, from about 55 to 200. The only unknown is the time lag, as I don't have a reliable means to measure that.

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Bluetooth Heart Rate Monitor?

Anyone heard or use such a beast with their Kaiser. Mine is now on the fritz so figure I may as well get one that may work with my kaiser and some decent software.
Thanks,
I have a Polar heart rate monitor that I used with my old HTC Wizard via the IR port. Alas, my Kaiser which replaced the Wizard does not have IR and I too am looking for a replacement. If anyone knows of such a beast, please let us know.
I looked before and this is all I was able to find. It would have been an awesome solution but I've never been able to find a place that actually sells them. Most likely not cheap but I'd be willing to spend a nice amount on it.
http://www.alivetec.com/pdf/sports_handout.pdf
http://www.alivetec.com/index.htm
Still not much out there
Hello there,
Relatively new to the touch screen GPS enabled windows platform, I’ve also started looking for applications that can make it even more all in one (although in my case the battery life could be a serious dampener – I have a Diamond )
The reference in terms of functionality has to be the Garmin 705HR, but it lacks the connectivity, liberty of map, sat image and software choice that the PPC phones have.
Has anyone heard of a hacked Garmin? It would be too cool to discover it ran on win CE (although it still doesn’t have BT)
So, back to the Bluetooth heart rate transmitter.
My peregrinations on the web have turned up a few possibilities, none of whom I have contacted simply because I am incapable of developing a program that could use the BT signal that issues from such kit:
Blatand do a genuine BT belt – looks like what we need – I wonder how much it costs, or if it’s available without the packages.
Adidas and Samsung have teamed up to create MiCoach, and I’m prepared to bet that the heart rate belt transmits via BT.
FRWD have a GPS module that receives heart rate info from any commercially available transmitter belt, and retransmits it via BT, but I don’t know if it’s available without the package…
I’ve also read that all one needs is a BT2ANT module, ANT being the transmission standard used by the big HRM manufacturers. But I haven’t managed to find even a picture of one, unless the above is one.
The last two are less attractive because it means yet another piece of hardware, defeating the all-in-one objective.
Does anyone know if it’s possible to rewrite part of a radio ROM to pick up/decode the ANT signal at 5KHz? (that’s a long shot and even if it were possible it would probably be at the expense of something else)
Here’s hoping (and waiting)
Luke
Edit: maybe this could be moved to a general or multiplatform forum, as it’s not Kaiser specific.
You could also try this site http://www.blatand.net/brustgurt+M52087573ab0.html
These things must be expensive
Physiol said:
I have contacted Zephyr - an SDK is US$120 including a device. They are shipping me one. Going to have a crack at it.
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awaiting for ur review dude...
This is really interesting. What I need is a glucose moniter for the phone, that would be really cool. My Dexcom continuous glucose monitor uses IR from the site to the device I think, so if a BT version ever came out, it would be awsome!
Just for you Superman22x http://www.bluetooth.com/Bluetooth/Products/Products/Product_Details.htm?ProductID=3976
I will suggest you the Polar FS2 heart rate monitor.I am using it and it very effective and I think it will fulfill your requirements .
Superman22x said:
This is really interesting. What I need is a glucose moniter for the phone, that would be really cool. My Dexcom continuous glucose monitor uses IR from the site to the device I think, so if a BT version ever came out, it would be awsome!
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Do you have a Nintendo DS?
http://www.mydigitallife.info/2009/07/14/bayer-announces-didget-blood-glucose-meter-for-nintendo-ds/
I was wondering if you had already found a heart rate monitor which sends out the heart rate via bluetooth.
If so please let me know as I am now in the process of investigation the possibility to have them produced (belt only).
When more people are willing to buy them it will cut down my cost.
Please let me know if you, or other people you know, are interested (PM)
Furthermore, anyone knows of any software which reads bluetooth Heart rates besides RunGPS ?!
Just found this thread after starting a new workout routine and stumbling across a Android market heart rate monitor app.
Searched like stupid and didn't find any products that were easily available, affordable or made any sense at all UNTIL I stumbled upon this:
http://www.ethpower.com/productInfo.asp?id=53
I contacted them for a sample and will report back on prices etc, although this looks more like a B2B company. Looks a bit hefty, but USB charging is cool.
Ciddy said:
Just found this thread after starting a new workout routine and stumbling across a Android market heart rate monitor app.
Searched like stupid and didn't find any products that were easily available, affordable or made any sense at all UNTIL I stumbled upon this:
http://www.ethpower.com/productInfo.asp?id=53
I contacted them for a sample and will report back on prices etc, although this looks more like a B2B company. Looks a bit hefty, but USB charging is cool.
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Just came across this thread...I am looking for a bluetooth transmitter for heart rate monitor for my runtastic app on htc one x but I resent paying more than $100 for one!
Did anything pan out with that link, or did you find anything else suitable?
Fingers crossed!
Thanks
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Google Project Glass. The future of advertisement.

1) Google Glass: possibilities of advertisement; basing adverstisement of what you see and geographically enable, taking advantage of streetview and visually as to what the user is seeing on the UI. For example, if a user walks by and views a McDonalds, a Google Goggles application will identify the image and instantly rely an advertisement to you.
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I see where you are coming from and i agree. It would also be great for museums and what not to give you the information on the artwork without having to read a tile and what not.
It's a neat product for sure.
More thoughts are welcome. Discussion and relative views are encouraged!
I think it'll be used for those reality TV shows a lot.
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Oh my, OP, Google isnt just all about ads, They do other stuff too.
2) I think most people don't realize this yet. There are some very neat things that can be done with Google Glass for the visually impaired. It could be used as a tool that will assist by using a combination of Google Goggles, and GPS to guide the visually impaired in ways that nothing else has really done...
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i think this tech is great...but i'm afraid it will kill our social life..i watch from youtube about project glass advertisement..that person a wearing glass make a date without her girlfreind and at the book store he is looking for ?? section..he didn't ask from a lady at counter..its look like a film WALL-E..just sit at chair..everything in front your eye and you are not noticed who are between of you.. this is only my 2cent opinion..sorry for my bad english..
saifulsaijue said:
i think this tech is great...but i'm afraid it will kill our social life..i watch from youtube about project glass advertisement..that person a wearing glass make a date without her girlfreind and at the book store he is looking for ?? section..he didn't ask from a lady at counter..its look like a film WALL-E..just sit at chair..everything in front your eye and you are not noticed who are between of you.. this is only my 2cent opinion..sorry for my bad english..
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Good point. We've already reached some of that. As in people looking down at their smartphone most of the time rather than socializing.
I don't know how you're supposed to be driving and wearing this thing at the same time. Will the DOT allow this on public roads? I mean... Imagine you're driving down I-95 S while wearing it and something pops up on the ride of the glasses. At the same time, a truck is trying to merge into your lane from the right. You didn't see it coming because your glasses prevented you from seeing that truck in your right-side mirror...
Imagine they make real time translation lang to lang in text or voice mod...
I hope thant when i walk or drive, I haven't my eyes full of advertising!!! Or i collise with other people or wall xD
Random thoughts
The idea is not new, but being a big and supposedly not evil company behind it may success.
- The official video can create a lot of hype. But. You won't be able to perform most things they do there. It is expensive.
Will this eventually get better? Who knows. I guess this is an experiment, it may success or not.
- Btw, does exist already any kind indoor GPS like in the video?
- Could this eventually kill the phone as we know it (with the help of tablets)?
- Is it only for one eye? and no way to remove reality background? Not good for watching movies then.
- Input interfaces: I don't think voice commands can work when surround by crowd in the street. As someone said, work by blinking eyes? by moving head? by moving eyes? have a couple of buttons?
- Presbyopia. When we get older we have trouble watching our small phone screens. These glasses will naturally overcome this.
- Casual public social networking: See what radom people around you is thinking realtime (like Google Plus' "near you" but better), see their avatars. Have your GPS on 24/7 and drain your battery too, or use NFC if it helps. May a new p2p GPS network emerge, or ground GPS, who knows.
- Easy and fast NFC sharing is required, as you cannot just show your screen to your friend like you can do with phones.
I tried to say a few things as I thought them, probably all of the have been worked out already elsewhere.
Well, i believe and Google also says it at some places that it'll cause accidents.
Definitely you won't be using it while driving a car or walking across the street therefore it won't be local mostly professionals will be using it like sky divers, astronauts etc ..
LatinSuD said:
The idea is not new, but being a big and supposedly not evil company behind it may success.
- The official video can create a lot of hype. But. You won't be able to perform most things they do there. It is expensive.
Will this eventually get better? Who knows. I guess this is an experiment, it may success or not.
- Btw, does exist already any kind indoor GPS like in the video?
- Could this eventually kill the phone as we know it (with the help of tablets)?
- Is it only for one eye? and no way to remove reality background? Not good for watching movies then.
- Input interfaces: I don't think voice commands can work when surround by crowd in the street. As someone said, work by blinking eyes? by moving head? by moving eyes? have a couple of buttons?
- Presbyopia. When we get older we have trouble watching our small phone screens. These glasses will naturally overcome this.
- Casual public social networking: See what radom people around you is thinking realtime (like Google Plus' "near you" but better), see their avatars. Have your GPS on 24/7 and drain your battery too, or use NFC if it helps. May a new p2p GPS network emerge, or ground GPS, who knows.
- Easy and fast NFC sharing is required, as you cannot just show your screen to your friend like you can do with phones.
I tried to say a few things as I thought them, probably all of the have been worked out already elsewhere.
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Awesome points made there. This really makes you think.
Sounds Cool!
I happen to use a lot of coupons. Normally I'll look up the coupons at home for businesses I'll be around during the next day.
It would be fairly handy if eventually an app could be made for google glass that would pop up coupons/sales for places as I travel past them.
Luckily you'll be able to get a driverless car so that you don't crash while using your glasses
please everything except advertising, i wont wanna pay $1500 for adverts to be directly beamed into my face:silly:
Google will release their project glass...then get sued by Apple because apple just patented Google's invention. :banghead:
Adsense for Google Glass.. that's funny!

Heart rate monitor?

So now that Android 4.3 is out and we supposedly have BT 4 LE support, I'm wondering if anybody has found any good heart rate monitors that work with the Nexus 4. I looked at the Polar H7, but one reviewer has already indicated that it still doesn't work with the N4. So, anybody know of any good ones that do work?
There are already applications that do the trick and they don't have any need of 4.3
Just type heart rate at play store.
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There are already applications that do the trick and they don't have any need of 4.3
Just type heart rate at play store.
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Having to hold your phone and keep a finger steadily on the camera isn't even close to being as useful or battery efficient as bluetooth connecting to something strapped to your arm.
Yeah I need something that monitors heart rate while I am cycling for several hours, running, or otherwise working out. Something compatible with strava or edmondo that isn't expensive as hell (the Polar H7 is the cheapest while being accurate - but it is reported incompatible with the N4.)
Try Runtastic Heart Rate. Its works really good!!! I been using it for along time. You dont need any extra accessories. Just put your finger on the flash light; it will do the rest.
FEATURES:
* Measure your pulse with the camera on your smartphone
* See your HRM results in a graph
* Variety of different, instant measurement types: resting HR, maximum HR, and HR before/after cardio
* Upload, store, and analyze your exercise results on the runtastic fitness site, www.runtastic.com
* Share your HRM results via your social networks: Facebook, Twitter, Google+ and E-mail
Ugh...what's the best way to explain to several people that you don't want to hold your finger on your phone for several hours while you ride your bike?
While being fantastic the new Bluetooth standard is also very buggy and a battery hog, so using one for a few hours along side another athletic assistant app would result in either a dead battery or a dead network board due to the heat.
Although rudimentary the light method is very accurate and easy to use, just use benchmarks and stop to take it rather the stream of data you are looking for.
Your best bet is to get a real heart rate monitor that saves to SD so you can compile at home, trying to get an accessory for a phone will only cost you twice as much for half as much efficiency.
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Runtastic Bluetooth
I've been using the Runtastic Smart Bluetooth Monitor for the last few weeks and I really like it. I don't notice the strap hardly at all when I'm running. The app is great too and mine came with a free upgrade to Runtastic Pro.
http://www.amazon.com/Runtastic-Heart-Rate-Combo-Monitor/dp/B00B84JQSE

[Q] Sony Smartwatch 3 or Moto 360 - small wrists

I am trying to choose the right smartwatch for me and I am sort of losing my mind. I really can't decide which one to get. So I have finally narrowed my decision down to two. Sony Smartwatch 3 and Moto 360. I like Sony when it comes to mobile hardware - I currently have a Z3 Compact and it would seem only logical to pair it with a smartwatch from Sony. But... I like Motorola as well. Never had any problems with them before.
Both have their pros and the cons. Moto 360 basically looks way better. It also has a heart rate monitor which I like but it isn't a must. On the other hand Smartwatch 3 has a much smoother interface, better battery, is cheaper and has micro USB for charging.
My main problem is this - I am a pretty small guy and I have small wrists as well. So a big watch would just look ridiculous on me. My wrists are about 46mm in diameter at the widest point where the watch would sit. So that's a big issue and the determining factor will be the size. I know that the Smartwatch 3 is slightly larger in one dimension, but it is designed much differently and is thiner. But it is pretty new and I haven't seen much comments about its size.
Anyone with similar issues? What would you suggest?
I own Sony smart watch 3 for the following reasons:
1. All round watches will have troubles with ui in one app or another, they just awkward to code for
2. Sony one is waterproof, has GPS, transflective LCD, great battery life and better chipset (moto uses prehistoric chipset same as in their motoactv from 2011)
3. I have medium sized wrist it fits perfectly, you could try one and return if it doesn't fit.
Overall I would not bother with any round watches unless to show off and from current wear offerings I feel like sw3 is the best and if you'll use GPS it is the only one.
I personally am a Moto 360 person myself. I have fairly skinny wrists and haven't noticed an aesthetic or comfort issue wearing it. In terms of app support: it is indeed harder for coders to deal with round screens but it seems like most have figured them out. The marker for round watches just seems large at this point which forces most to support them if at all feasible.
I also do not trust Sony when it comes to Android based devices. They always seem to release products in that space that flop and thereby do not get as much updates/support compared to peer manufacturers.
Good luck in your decision!
I get a SW3 today. I've also a small wrist and it fits very well.
Why I choose SW3 not Moto 360? A round watch is pretty cool, but I cannot tolerate its black bar below, it makes me crazy...
And also consider the battery, SW3 finally becomes my first android wear.
Same here, wanted a moto 360. But after looking at everything I bought SW3 yesterday. Never had android wear before or actually worn a watch. But SW3 for £130 was an easy decision. It should arrive on Thursday.
I am 2 meter tall guy so size ssd never a concern to me. Only thing I didn't like about SW3 was that weird watch band. A standart 22mm watch bands would be much better. But I will see how it feels when it arrives. Can't wait! [emoji2]
Well I have finally decided and bought a Moto 360. It has arrived yesterday so I've had about a day of "play time" with it. A bit mixed feelings for now. But not really a HW problem. Android Wear seems very much like a huge beta for now.
First my thoughts on hardware - I love the design. It really is a beautiful watch. And just a tad too large for my wrists. Smaller would be better but size isn't too big of an issue on the current model. It could be a bit thiner though. I don't particularly like the leather strap to be honest. The leather feels a bit too stiff for my liking. I've seen much softer leather bands on watches before. I would probably prefer one of those. Or maybe textile. But maybe it will soften up a bit with time.
Battery doesn't seem like a particularly big issue. I am at 55% right now (I started using it in the morning and it is 9 in the evening now) and I have been playing with it a lot today. Installing apps, using things, ... So it seems like it will last me a day just fine.
Pedometer seems useless. I can't check how accurate it is because it doesn't update in real time - the ****? Who thought that this was a good idea? If I make a step I want to see it change immediately. Not two hours later. Heart rate sensor isn't much better either.
And now for android wear... What was google thinking? What's the point of having the ability to read an email or to reply to it but no ability to delete that thing? I delete 80% of my emails after I read them. Why can't I do that on my wrist? What about a keyboard? We know it isn't impossible. So why isn't it there? Something similar to a standard numeric keypad that we can see on old mobile phones would work (T9 anyone?). Or a full fledged keyboard in some other form. Not because I don't want to talk but because voice input is useless for anything but English. And we will be seeing support for Slovene in ... let's be honest ... never. So I can't send a message to anyone, I can't send an email to anyone, start a navigation to somewhere, ... KEYBOARD!
Why do "apps" like Yatse remote hide/close when the watch goes to sleep? This makes it pretty much useless then.
Deleting emails is just swipe left, delete.. I do it all the time as 90% of what I get is spam anyway.
IME the watches work best as notification devices.. they're great for telling you that an email or tweet has arrived, or that you have to leave to get to an appointment, without having to fish in your pocket to work out whether it's an important message or not. During meetings a quick glance at the watch is pretty unobtrusive.
They're too small though to be general purpose devices, and they're not designed to be (hence no real launcher.. 'apps' is buried at the bottom of a menu). Once you get into serious amounts of interaction you're better off just taking the phone out and using that.
TonyHoyle said:
Deleting emails is just swipe left, delete.. I do it all the time as 90% of what I get is spam anyway.
IME the watches work best as notification devices.. they're great for telling you that an email or tweet has arrived, or that you have to leave to get to an appointment, without having to fish in your pocket to work out whether it's an important message or not. During meetings a quick glance at the watch is pretty unobtrusive.
They're too small though to be general purpose devices, and they're not designed to be (hence no real launcher.. 'apps' is buried at the bottom of a menu). Once you get into serious amounts of interaction you're better off just taking the phone out and using that.
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The funny thing here is this - I've found it performs the worst as a notification device. It performs great when I need a timer or when I need to quickly check one of my notes.
Notifications are just... meh. I want f*** email notifications. And no I don't have a delete option when I swipe left. I have reply, mark as read and open on phone. No delete. What is even worse - the thing doesn't vibrate when I get an email. Probably it has something to do with the email client I am using - the stock (AOSP) android one. Not gmail or something else. How am I supposed to have faith in a platform when even the thing that is most advertised doesn't work with the built in app?
The first thing I installed on there was an app launcher. I also found a neat app that enables you to send text messages with an actual keyboard. So at least there is that.
I have a "swipe left" to delete also. It depends what you use for your email. I use "Blue Mail"
tonyguy2000 said:
I have a "swipe left" to delete also. It depends what you use for your email. I use "Blue Mail"
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Probably.
I am not happy with the fact that something so basic as deleting emails and vibrating when that email arrives is not supported with the app made by Google. On their own platform.
I was also hoping that Lolipop update would bring us some improvements in that regard - the watch got an update today and it didn't improve any of my issues.
i don't know which one is more suitable for you .
but people are often talking about moto 360 ,
sony watch i havent heard it many time .
so i guess this maybe be able to help you decide .

Anyone pre-order the Misfit Vapor?

It looks really cool, Amazon keeps having these flash sales on Amazon for $151. Right now you can pre-order it for $199 on their site. What do you guys think of it? Any-one get theirs yet?
https://misfit.com/products/misfit-vapor
I'm interested in hearing from anyone who ordered one/has one as well. Honestly, I'm stunned that a non-flat-tire, not ginormous, waterproof, android wear 2.0 smartwatch with a touch bezel is not getting more notice/media coverage.
It's like all the big review sites said, "Yeah, it's available on the 31st....so what. We had to wait for it too long, so we don't care". It's rather crazy in my mind. There are a few old reviews I can find (when the watch still ran the proprietary OS) but as far as I can find, there are no current reviews with the watch running AW 2.0. Why!?
I really hope some proud new owners chime in and let us know how the watch performs running AW, and some details on real-world use.
The only one that I've seen receive their's is this person. For $199 new, that's pretty good isn't it? A refurb Huawei watch one would cost me $150 at least.
https://www.reddit.com/r/MisfitVapor/comments/7ak9e0/i_received_my_vapor_and_am_willing_answer_any/
Oh, sweet! Good thread there with some pretty good initial info on the watch. Thanks for sharing the link.
Hi I just recieved mine last night and I am now looking around on the web for info/help with it. Ill give my first impressions of it here, Id like to be able to share my thoughts with Misfit so maybe they can take the feedback and improve it.
First off I am a formar Fitbit Surge user and liked it for the fitness attributes it had, before ordering the Vapor I bought a CHEAP $40 Kingware KW18 watch from China to see if id be ok wearing a larger watch such as these are. It had many short commings but also did some cool things.
First impression is the watch is well made and it has a great interface, I really like the touch navigation around the bezel.
Now for what I dont like about it:
- Heart rate monitor has to be manually activated each time and just does a short test. I want to have it on all the time and have the data graphed in the app, I understand that probably is a battery drainer but how about being able to turn it on during workouts so I know what my peak heart rate was riding my cycle up a huge hill for instance.
- Phone call answering - It lets you see an incomming call and decide to hang up or answer it from the watch, but if you answer it from the watch the call actually goes to the phone. You should be able to see the call and if your phone is handy answer it on the phone or if its not (say phone is in my pocket and i am driving) answer it on the watch and talk to the person through the watch as a speaker phone. THe cheap KW18 can do this.
- Displaying of info on the watch face - Id like to be able to select what info is displayed on the watchface, such as steps or calories burned. Seams simple enough, Fitbits, Garmins both can do this and is an expection for most people of a fitness watch.
- Sleep monitor, so I could be missing something when I set it up for this but when I synced it this morning it said I got zero sleep, gee I didnt feel that I got no sleep, I am tired but I did sleep some... If it cannot sense I am in a restful position on its on I hope it doesnt expect me to select something in the watch to say Im now sleeping....
- Charger - It is a non intrusive connection held onto watch with a magnet which is great but it doesnt stay on well at all. The cheap KW18 has a much better charger cable/interface.
- Misfit App - THis is on me as I could have downloaded this before hand and checked it out but basically it is pretty useless. Has very little info in it, does not food/water tracking and has no graphing ability that I could see. Will need to use the watch for a while to see if once there is data it then has graphs available with your daily/weekly/monthly activity...
Sorry to sound negitive but they tout it as a refined fitness watch but fitness is low on their prioritys from what I can see.
~ Phil
mpilihp said:
- Displaying of info on the watch face - Id like to be able to select what info is displayed on the watchface, such as steps or calories burned. Seams simple enough, Fitbits, Garmins both can do this and is an expection for most people of a fitness watch.
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You can change the default watch face info at bottom of screen. Go to change face screen and click settings icon and you can change the 3 icons from in there to link to any app on watch incl Google Fit for steps, calories etc
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You can change the default watch face info at bottom of screen. Go to change face screen and click settings icon and you can change the 3 icons from in there to link to any app on watch incl Google Fit for steps, calories etc
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Hi thanks I did manage to figure that out, a user manual would be nice. It still is not very accurate on the step counting and it isn't tracking sleep at all either.
~ Phil
I have a few to sell if anyone is interested
So update on my Vapor i was told by tech support it does not do sleep tracking at all and heart rate monitoring is a snapshot only when you trigger it.
Have no idea how they can tout the Vapor let alone Misfit as fitness focused.
Im sending mine back and looking at the Garmin vivoactive 3 or the Samsung S2.
Phil
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