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Hi,
Just Got the 7.7 3g - so far so good. Screen is as good as they say
The extra resolution defn. helps with web browsing.
Not finding any lag really.
7.7 is just about the limit for my two handed use but i would say the original 7" was a wee bit easier to handle but something with time should become more intuitive.
Just a few issues - external sd card is somewhat limited. Might be deliberate by Samsung but does not make sense.
Normal user apps cant access to the external sdcard. Using connect bot, i checked permissions and it seems that it is mounted by the os with system permissions, where as the internal sdcard is mounted as sd_rw.
This can't be correct? The only way to copy stuff to it is to use the samsung system file explorer as it has system permissions So copy to internal first then to external - this sounds like a bug?
I have not rooted this yet - might then chown to sd_rw get rid of this ?? There is a lot of entries in the vold.fstab to make sense of. Not a hacker so just looking around. A bit too early to start soft-bricking
But I take these don't have protected bootloaders so thats why we can root ?
Video playback is v.good but I am not able to throw on a bluray m2ts file (obviously with the sd card issue) and play smoothly. I found Dice player can handle m2ts by renaming it to a ts file. It then can use hardware decoding. Still drops frames but still watchable to a certain degree. For all other files mx player is still best. I have lossy transcoded some "native" blurays clips and seems that it handle high profile h264 1080p at high bitrates very well. Hoping, formatting sd card ext3/ext4 will improve things.
On the whole very impressive device - plus more ics goodies to come soon hopefully.
I've noticed some issues with the external SD card as well. Only the stock file manager can copy files from the internal storage to the external storage. I was able to transfer files to the ext. SD via Dooblou's Wifi Explorer, though. Although that would crap out a few times.
I'm hoping that we see some new ROMs with a different file system at any rate. The 4GB limit is so 1998.
Fix for external sd write issue
I've already posted a fix for this in our original thread?
davp said:
There is a fix for the write to external storage in this thread:
Samsung Galaxy Tab Plus->Galaxy Tab Plus General->unable to write files to external sd card
post #7
Requires root to apply fix.
There is a new permission that older file managers aren't asking for yet. The stock file manager knows to ask for it.
Fix worked for my P6810 wifi.
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thaloneus said:
I can't post a link to the original post on another forum that worked for me so I will quote it:
Simple solution for external sdcard write access on Android 3.2...if you're rooted
I've found a simple solution for gaining write access to the external sdcard (/mnt/sdcard2) on Android 3.2. The sdcard is mounted r/w, but the owning group is media_rw which is linked to the WRITE_MEDIA_STORAGE permission. Unfortunately, this permission was not required for access to the external sdcard prior to 3.2 so most file management utilities do not request it when they run...meaning they only have read access to the card.
The simple solution, if you're rooted, is as follows:
1. Using a root-enabled file manager, navigate to /system/etc/permissions and make sure you have mounted the file system r/w.
2. Edit platform.xml and find the WRITE_EXTERNAL_STORAGE permission.
3. Add an additional group definition for this permission...<group gid="media_rw" />
4. Save the changes to the file.
5. Restart your tablet.
After this change, any apps that request the WRITE_EXTERNAL_STORAGE permission (which includes almost anything that access either of the sdcards) will gain group membership in both sdcard_rw AND media_rw, giving them r/w access to both sdcard filesystems.
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Rooted and then applied this change.
Can write to ext sdcard !!!!
Cheers
Will apply as soon as i get tad, should be getting it today, cant wait
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I think you have to format the sd card in the tab. I been able to transfer files no problem. Maybe its due to the mtp for the internal sd.
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will6316 said:
I think you have to format the sd card in the tab. I been able to transfer files no problem. Maybe its due to the mtp for the internal sd.
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Using downloaded apps or the stock File Manager app? Because I formatted the SD card in the Tab and nothing else can write to it. Now, I can drag and drop stuff from my computer via MTP, but that's not the same issue.
Ok, I'm trying to add the permission and it doesn't seem to save after a reboot. I'm rooted and made sure to mount that directory as R/W. After I edit platform.xml and reboot it simply reverts. Can anyone offer a more granular description to this n00b?
Thanks.
Edit: Nevermind. I edited the file on my computer and copied it over the original and am good to go.
burhanistan said:
Ok, I'm trying to add the permission and it doesn't seem to save after a reboot. I'm rooted and made sure to mount that directory as R/W. After I edit platform.xml and reboot it simply reverts. Can anyone offer a more granular description to this n00b?
Thanks.
Edit: Nevermind. I edited the file on my computer and copied it over the original and am good to go.
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Thanks Burhanistan. I had this problem too and did what you did to get around it. Now I can read/write to the external SD with any file explorer.
Hello,
I can access the external SD with no problem, only issue is Titanium backup showing 440Mb capacity on the external SD (32Gb card).
Anyone with the same issue? Any fix?
Thanks.
No problem for me
davp said:
I've already posted a fix for this in our original thread?
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Things must have changed as i got my P6800 recently did the upgrade from samsung and tried to copy to external sd and no problem for me. I never tried to do it pre upgrade but maybe the upgrade fixed that. Re i can copy and paste to device from my pc when its connected - to both device and sd. I can also copy using the the stock file manager from device to sd card.
No Issues here also
I recieved the tap a week ago. Now my 32GB Sandisk SD is here.
The Tap did at the first startup and using the described 12 MB Android update via internet conn.
Until now there is no issue between writing from/to SD over PC/MTP, copying between internal and external SD. Used preinstalled Filemanager and ES File Ex.
I tried it unrooted and rooted but not before the Android update.
davp said:
Simple solution for external sdcard write access on Android 3.2...if you're rooted
I've found a simple solution for gaining write access to the external sdcard (/mnt/sdcard2) on Android 3.2. The sdcard is mounted r/w, but the owning group is media_rw which is linked to the WRITE_MEDIA_STORAGE permission. Unfortunately, this permission was not required for access to the external sdcard prior to 3.2 so most file management utilities do not request it when they run...meaning they only have read access to the card.
The simple solution, if you're rooted, is as follows:
1. Using a root-enabled file manager, navigate to /system/etc/permissions and make sure you have mounted the file system r/w.
2. Edit platform.xml and find the WRITE_EXTERNAL_STORAGE permission.
3. Add an additional group definition for this permission...<group gid="media_rw" />
4. Save the changes to the file.
5. Restart your tablet.
After this change, any apps that request the WRITE_EXTERNAL_STORAGE permission (which includes almost anything that access either of the sdcards) will gain group membership in both sdcard_rw AND media_rw, giving them r/w access to both sdcard filesystems.
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Some people are reporting the above procedure is no more needed, however, with several apps (like Titanium backup, and a SAMBA explorer), writing to the sdcard (extstorage/.../sdcard) is still impossible (GT6800 updated to latest samsung firmware).
I have used this procedure and can state that Titanium backup works now with the SD card.
Thanks to many reading within the XDA forum, I have found this simpler procedure :
- download / install the "Root Browser Lite" app from the android market
- add write access to group and other to the following directory: /system, /system/etc, /system/etc/permissions (with root browser Lite, press on the directory name during 3 seconds to get a contextual menu allowing to change the permissions)
- add write access to group and other to the file platform.xml in /system/etc/permissions
- use the editor of "Root Browser Lite" to modify the file platform.xml as described above (you should have two <group gid= ...> lines within the WRITE_EXTERNAL_STORAGE xml block.)
- save the file. Verify that a .bak file has been created and that the date of platform.xml changed.
- remove the write access.
- Turn off the GTAB, then turn it ON.
NB: Titanium backup still reports a erronous free size on the SD card (401MB), but backups on the sdcard work.
can't save the xlm doc
davp said:
I've already posted a fix for this in our original thread?
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Hi, I edit the file but when I try to save it I fail because it says original saved as .....xlm.bak, but I can't find that file and the one I find is unchanged, any ideas?
There is an automated installer for the fix here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=21670802
Is for the plus but worked fine for me
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damm, must forget something, just followed exacty all the steps
still no writing on sd card
the automatic installer failed also
IS there a way to go into the (forgive the incorrect term) "registry" or similar, and have Android re-interpret/understand that instead of looking in "/sdcard"... it should instead look/point programs to "/mnt/sdcard/extstorages/sdcard"...
i heard that it might be called something like a "simlink" or "symbolic link"... maybe this could resolve the application installation issue to the sdcard as well as backups, transfers, etc... right now, not only do i run out of space too fast, can't install apps to the sd card, but as well, if i should run a hard reset... all my data erases! (yes, the internal "SD card" is erased in a hard reset)...
so, for all practical senses, when it says it will erase data, unless you KNOW you have copied ALL you user data to your "Real" SD Card, you will kill your data without even knowing it when you do a hard reset, even if you "thought" you were protected because "I saved my info to the SD card!"
(and yes, this was my experience today, so it's a fact.)
backup programs won't point to the sd card, (app manager, titanium, app list backup, etc)...
so unless you actively move files individually to the card (and know where to look)...
Bottom line... is there a hack/workaround on this that's not just "open up for file transfers" or is someone working on a ROM that might kill the partitioning and allow the /sdcard to actually point to a real external card?
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acess-rights-hell
hi forum
i would like to use the EzyKernel v1 - 23/02/2012 as in post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1513413&highlight=ezykernel
one of the prerequisites is a stock ZSKL firmware.
on the tab is/was XXKL4 AUT/CH
i successfully flashed the ZSKL2 - but that's where the nightmare started: i could not write to sdcard, busybox/superuser don't work properly, as i can't get root via su - which means to me, that there are messed up accessrights also in other places, not just the SD. the funny thing is, that i finally got the overclocking EzyKernel working, but not busybox + superuser.
does that sound familiar to anyone ?
i would really appreciate any ideas about this.
thank you
with best regards from switzerland
roland
could you please explain what "make sure you have mounted the file system r/w" means. And sorry for my noob question, but does this fix allow to install apps on the external sd card or I'm missing something.
Hi,
I opened a new thread because my problem seems different from this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2607215 as I experience the same microSD card problems but that thread's fix won't work.
Brand new, out of the box, N9005. Before using it I immediately rooted it and then I immediately flsahed 4.4.2 (polish) and then re-roooted. Root is confirmed as Titanium, ROM Manager etc all work.
Evrything is fine except the microSD card:
- Android OS can see the card, mount/unmount and format.
- File Expert PRO cannot even read the card.
- Astro File mngr can read (let me edit with editors) and save but cannot rename.
- Dropsync cannot download anything onto the card.
- Dropsync can download same files on internal memory.
- Can see, edit, save, rename, delete - everything ok - if I operate via PC w/ USB.
- Apps can see the content but cannot write on it.
- Apps which rely on microSD card (but not move to ExtSD) are greyed out and don't work.
I tried 3 cards, 8GB, 32GB (class 4) and this 64GB Sandisk (class 10).
All exibit the same problem.
I formatted all the cards with rapid format in PC.
The 64GB card I also did a full, 1 hour, format in PC.
I utried both NTFS and FAT in PC.
Help! Please!
Same problem here, i hope you found a solution for it
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Nope! Sorry. Still searching...
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Try to use FX file explorer
i did instruction from link above, it works, i am using es explorer, enable root tools, check / and /system, replace platform.xml, set properties rw-r--r-- reboot, done
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hillzx said:
i did instruction from link above, it works, i am using es explorer, enable root tools, check / and /system, replace platform.xml, set properties rw-r--r-- reboot, done
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Where is the "above link" , how can I find it
Thanks
From the Note 2 thread. Unsure if this is exactly the same resolution as the above
External SD card mount point fix for kitkat roms
Im unrooted so I'm just having to wait for the 3rd party updates.
this is bull*
i don't want to root my phone in order to solve their problem .. JESUS!
it seems it's a Kikat problem, google also wants to f*ck us now.
http://android.stackexchange.com/questions/58592/using-an-external-sdcard-with-kitkat
Agree... For once, I left my phone unrooted (after owning Galaxy S, S2 and Note2), and now this... I can modify the external SD with the built in file explorer, but ES File Explorer, Solid Explorer, SMS Backup & Restore and Sygic have problems writing or modifying content on the SD.
As the builtin file manager CAN access the SD, I hope it can be solved by the app devs, however, I find it strange that it is still not fixed for a lot of apps (actually none I could find in my app list), and that this is not one of the top discussions here...
I already contacted some of the support teams of the apps, but some of them indicate they are working on a fix themselves, whereas others say it can not be fixed in 3rd party apps...
I have the Sprint Note 3 running 4.4.2, and could access the SdCard from Titanium Backup. I used this link http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=2607215 from above. I downloaded the platform.xml and used root explorer to place it in the right folder, set permission and rebooted. It worked perfectly and now I can run Titanium Backup and save it on the ExtSdCard.
Thanks
its the new kitkat ext. sdcard rules.. !
now developers have to update their apps to work with the new rules..
ES file explorer is updated,, it does work to some extent..
btw,, everythings ok with the Samsung's own file manager..
Hi, My partner has a S5, it is running 4.4.2, as you know google have locked down using file browsers and other SD card apps.
The issue being that I have a Note 3 running STOCK 4.4.2 with no root access and I can use ES File Explorer to move files from my Media server to my External SD card.
Does any one know why this is and how you can do this without rooting the device>?
84DGR said:
Hi, My partner has a S5, it is running 4.4.2, as you know google have locked down using file browsers and other SD card apps.
The issue being that I have a Note 3 running STOCK 4.4.2 with no root access and I can use ES File Explorer to move files from my Media server to my External SD card. Does any one know why this is and how you can do this without rooting the device>?
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Google tightened up security in Kitkat by restricting third party access to your SD card. Apps now only have permission to work within one folder or area of the card, rather than anywhere. A file explorer, even a non-root version would logically have broader access than most types of apps due to the nature of what a file explorer needs to do.
You can revert the Kitkat changes if you are rooted. I am not aware of any apps or methods to so so without root. Nor can you revert to a pre 4.3 JellyBean firmware as Samsung has blocked reversion to preclude people removing Knox that way. You might be able to downgrade to an earlier Kitkat version that doesn't have the SD permissions change yet. I haven't confirmed that, but it might be possible.
But in practical terms you either need to root and revert the changes, live with the restrictions or seek out updated versions of apps that work better in the new regime.
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I know the lollipop update is supposed to bring write access to the SD card, and it does, in a small way. But it still doesn't allow you full control over it.
For example, on cm12, or on stock lollipop roms on both this tablet and my note 3, I can't download files or torrents directly to my SD card. I have to fill my internal storage first, and then I can move the files on the card.
Back in the kitkat days, using the numerous SD card fixes it allowed me to whatever I wanted with the card, I had complete control over it.
On lollipop the fixes don't work. But is there any way it could work?
Mod edit: Thread closed
This isn't the place to post questions as clearly stated in the purpose of this forum
Post questions in the Q&A section of your device
Install Xposed and then this module, http://repo.xposed.info/module/com.pyler.xinternalsd
Xposed doesn't work on lollipop for xperias unless rovo89 has managed to fix it yet as it bootloops after the first reboot.
Futura2000 said:
Xposed doesn't work on lollipop for xperias unless rovo89 has managed to fix it yet as it bootloops after the first reboot.
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Some people still dont understand that buddy
We keep sayin it a million times now !
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Not sure where it was, but when I opened FX explorer it took me to a page to enable read/write access to the card. Not sure where it goes, but it works now
FX Explorer took me there too, but when I try to delete a file in my SD card, fx Explorer force close.
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lvnatic said:
I know the lollipop update is supposed to bring write access to the SD card, and it does, in a small way. But it still doesn't allow you full control over it.
For example, on cm12, or on stock lollipop roms on both this tablet and my note 3, I can't download files or torrents directly to my SD card. I have to fill my internal storage first, and then I can move the files on the card.
Back in the kitkat days, using the numerous SD card fixes it allowed me to whatever I wanted with the card, I had complete control over it.
On lollipop the fixes don't work. But is there any way it could work?
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@lvnatic
Well well Well ......... Its not a difficult thing
You need rooted device and root explorer for that purpose
I am preparing a LP Rom for Z3 and waiting for LB recovery, but i prepare a file for my rom that give us Permissions for SD card
Copy my file from attachment its work with Z2, Z3
Extract it using 7Zip or WinRar
put it on sd card and using root explorer paste it into System\etc\permissions
Replace with old file and set the permission RW/R/R that is 0644
Reboot your device. Now third party apps can be download directly into SD card, but you need to change the download directory in every app. :angel::angel::angel:
zohaib0001 said:
@lvnatic
Well well Well ......... Its not a difficult thing
You need rooted device and root explorer for that purpose
I am preparing a LP Rom for Z3 and waiting for LB recovery, but i prepare a file for my rom that give us Permissions for SD card
Copy my file from attachment its work with Z2, Z3
Extract it using 7Zip or WinRar
put it on sd card and using root explorer paste it into System\etc\permissions
Replace with old file and set the permission RW/R/R that is 0644
Reboot your device. Now third party apps can be download directly into SD card, but you need to change the download directory in every app. :angel::angel::angel:
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you mean 3rd party apps eg. from playstore directly into sd card?.. how to change the download directory in every app?..can you make a guide?..very thanks..
kumbangdesa said:
you mean 3rd party apps eg. from playstore directly into sd card?.. how to change the download directory in every app?..can you make a guide?..very thanks..
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every app that can download some thing for you like torrent apps
have some settings in it go there and find for default storage location and change it to SD card
I recently bought an S7E. I was a little disappointed that there was no full root for the thing, but understand the situation with the locked bootloader. So I went the engineering root route. All is well and good there other than I hate that I cannot seemingly install any kind of recovery and make a full backup of the phone. Nonetheless, I the reason I am posting is that I have an issue with writing to the SD card. I have formatted the card with no change. I tried using root explorer to change the ownership of the card with no change (says it can't because of no write permissions). I even tried the KitKat fix I think it was in that you modified the platform.xml file to get write permissions. I had to use ADB to do that though but it too still made no difference.
So I am kind of out of ideas here. I first noticed it trying to run Syncthing which I use to sync files across devices for work and, of course, I use the SD Card for that purpose. However, other apps are unable to write as well like ES File Explorer, Root Explorer and so on.
Does anyone have any solution to this? I am on T-Mobile if that makes a difference. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
Just to see if any fresh eyes on this may have some clues or answers. Thanks.
StormStrikes said:
Just to see if any fresh eyes on this may have some clues or answers. Thanks.
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Install Fx explore from playstore. Click 3dot menu select enable write access.select 3dot menu and again select show all storage then from side menu select memory card then select right symbol on the bottom, you are done.
Thank you for that Anik49. That will get me functional for the moment, but is there not a way to make it permanent? Syncthing is unable to write to the SD card and I have yet to find anything that would adjust the permissions for that specific app or that would more generally give write access to the SD card outside of the file explorer.
StormStrikes said:
Thank you for that Anik49. That will get me functional for the moment, but is there not a way to make it permanent? Syncthing is unable to write to the SD card and I have yet to find anything that would adjust the permissions for that specific app or that would more generally give write access to the SD card outside of the file explorer.
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Without root you have to give app permission to write on sd card but not all app have the option but with root you can do this you need xposed framework install on your phone. Then install xinternal sd apk and give the app proper permission. It will enable all write access to the memory card.
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Without root you have to give app permission to write on sd card but not all app have the option but with root you can do this you need xposed framework install on your phone. Then install xinternal sd apk and give the app proper permission. It will enable all write access to the memory card.
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Awesome! Thank you.