Hello
I just bought a 7.7 on Verizon. Primarily for SD Card & LTE. But I have major issues with lag on my training videos. I think if I upgrade to ICS this might help. I know Verizon is not releasing anytime soon....
Any suggestions? I Have been searching for 2 days now and just really confused. I really dont want to return this thing. I also bought a Nexus 7 and have had no issues with lag but the 7.7 is so much nicer (expect the lag)
thanks
Do visit this site and find P6800 ROM http://www.filefactory.com/f/16e5683c3e667a17[
For ICS, download XXLQ2 ROM. (Latest)
Happy flashing!
marwanxx said:
Do visit this site and find P6800 ROM http://www.filefactory.com/f/16e5683c3e667a17[
For ICS, download XXLQ2 ROM. (Latest)
Happy flashing!
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Awesome. Thank you. Is there a "go back to stock" in case things dont go well?
thx
agunjal said:
Hello
I just bought a 7.7 on Verizon. Primarily for SD Card & LTE. But I have major issues with lag on my training videos. I think if I upgrade to ICS this might help. I know Verizon is not releasing anytime soon....
Any suggestions? I Have been searching for 2 days now and just really confused. I really dont want to return this thing. I also bought a Nexus 7 and have had no issues with lag but the 7.7 is so much nicer (expect the lag)
thanks
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You have a Verizon tab. It's a different model, with different hardware. The 6800/6810 firmwares will not work for you. In fact, they will probably brick your device. Do NOT Download any file for the international, GT-P6800/GT-P6810!!!
Over at the development forum, you will find CM9/CM10. Those are independent from Samsung/Verizon, based on Google's ICS/JB code. They are currently the only choice of ICS+ for the Verizon model.
Steve_max said:
You have a Verizon tab. It's a different model, with different hardware. The 6800/6810 firmwares will not work for you. In fact, they will probably brick your device. Do NOT Download any file for the international, GT-P6800/GT-P6810!!!
Over at the development forum, you will find CM9/CM10. Those are independent from Samsung/Verizon, based on Google's ICS/JB code. They are currently the only choice of ICS+ for the Verizon model.
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phew..thanks...I was just about to...I am returning this thing and will wait until they update it...thanks everyone
You can use iocerra's cm9 and cm10 builds for ics and jb, but they don't have lte so that might be a deal breaker. Or you can root, install titanium backup and freeze/remove some apps to see if you can reduce lag. Or you can wait. All good options, depending on what you want / need.
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I would prefer to be without a contract, I'm okay being without LTE in the USA, would like international usability, and am confused about all these different variants in model numbers, processor types, and versions (e.g. Google edition, Active edition, etc...). Thanks!
whiteblazer01 said:
I would prefer to be without a contract, I'm okay being without LTE in the USA, would like international usability, and am confused about all these different variants in model numbers, processor types, and versions (e.g. Google edition, Active edition, etc...). Thanks!
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Go for I9506.I think is the best.I own this phone and is better than I9505.But if you are looking for any custom rom you will not find anyhing for it(yet) only root and a few mods compatible from I9505.But overall is way better than i9505.The Snapdragon 800(2,3 Ghz and Adreno 330) does his job very well.And....there is no official android 4.3 for it.Just 4.2.2.I9506 rocks the benchmarks.In Antutu(stok ROM,stock Kernel) it scores around 35000 pts.
none , don t purchase an s4 , if u really want a Samsung device the s5 is coming soon , also concerning international usability with regional lock Samsung is not a good option
If you're considering a Google play edition device, you're better off with the nexus 5
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Go for I9506.I think is the best.I own this phone and is better than I9505.But if you are looking for any custom rom you will not find anyhing for it(yet) only root and a few mods compatible from I9505.But overall is way better than i9505.The Snapdragon 800(2,3 Ghz and Adreno 330) does his job very well.And....there is no official android 4.3 for it.Just 4.2.2.I9506 rocks the benchmarks.In Antutu(stok ROM,stock Kernel) it scores around 35000 pts.
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Thanks for the recommendation, I'm looking into this. What carrier are you using; any plan suggestions? (I'm not too eager to sign a contract)
difyel said:
none , don t purchase an s4 , if u really want a Samsung device the s5 is coming soon , also concerning international usability with regional lock Samsung is not a good option
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Has the S5 been announced? Doesn't Samsung usually release new year flagship phones in March/April? I'll need one much sooner than that.
Also, what's the problem with international use on a GS4? I think I remember reading that International GS4s in the USA don't have 4G use, and USA GS4s don't work well in other countries. If I get a rootable GS4, would this resolve this concern?
Thanks again for the help guys!
That header should be put at the top of every post that talks about the "DEVELOPER EDITION" otherwise some sad owner of the Note 4 is going to brick their phone.
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That header should be put at the top of every post that talks about the "DEVELOPER EDITION" otherwise some sad owner of the Note 4 is going to brick their phone.
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How are they going to brick their phone? With the locked bootloader and no root, there is no recovery to flash anything.
Trying to flash any sort CF Root or custom recovery will indeed brick a Note 4 CE
Also people running out and buying the DE not knowing that the device also only has a 30 day warranty..
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Also people running out and buying the DE not knowing that the device also only has a 30 day warranty..
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If you want you can buy the Samsung Samsung Protection Plus℠ Mobile Elite* for Galaxy Note® 3 and Galaxy Note® 4 for $ 129 2 yr extended warranty coverage from the DOP . http://www.samsung.com/us/owners/protection-plus/mobile-elite/
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How are they going to brick their phone? With the locked bootloader and no root, there is no recovery to flash anything.
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KennyG123 I appreciate what you are saying but I need to disagree with the notion that there is not a need to provide a distinction between threads that focus on mods for the retail versions of the Note 4 and those that focus on the Developer Edition of the Note 4. As you know, the Retail version and the Developer Edition of the Note 4 are identical except for one very important element...the bootloader. Mods/hacks etc. designed for one can be very detrimental to the other. They are not compatible in this respect.
I'm sure with your experience and expertise that you have seen many, perhaps hundreds, of inexperienced users, excited about taking advantage of their new Android phone and its potential for modding, do something that bricks their phone because they simply didn't know better. Distinguishing threads intended for Developer Edition phones is not intended to benefit the knowledgeable "crack flasher", developer, coder or themer, it is intended to help the "noob" or less experience user from doing something that will brick their phone or lock their bootloader.
With recovery and root now available for the Developer Edition Note 4 ROMs are not far behind. And, hopefully root and SafeStrap will be available for the retail version soon. With that/those events, the ability for new/inexperienced users (both retail owners and developer edition owners) to separate what's safe to flash and what isn't is going to get very complicated. This is only going to be compounded as OTAs begin to be released and different version of firmware start to show up for users to flash. Having a way to separate or distinguish threads intended for Retail users only or Developer Edition users only makes sense to me. Just saying. No rant intended. Thank you for listening.
Only $129? Wow, what a deal. I'll take 2.
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I absolutely agree.
doctor-cool said:
That header should be put at the top of every post that talks about the "DEVELOPER EDITION" otherwise some sad owner of the Note 4 is going to brick their phone.
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people should read. if they dont know that their phone is locked and doesnt have recovery not my problem if they brick their device
Personally I'd rather see a separate forum for all the Developer specific stuff. Drop it all there so there is no confusion... but that's just me.
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Personally I'd rather see a separate forum for all the Developer specific stuff. Drop it all there so there is no confusion... but that's just me.
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No it's not just you. There are many of us forum users, both Retail and Dev Edition users, that agree with you.
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KennyG123 I appreciate what you are saying but I need to disagree with the notion that there is not a need to provide a distinction between threads that focus on mods for the retail versions of the Note 4 and those that focus on the Developer Edition of the Note 4. As you know, the Retail version and the Developer Edition of the Note 4 are identical except for one very important element...the bootloader. Mods/hacks etc. designed for one can be very detrimental to the other. They are not compatible in this respect.
I'm sure with your experience and expertise that you have seen many, perhaps hundreds, of inexperienced users, excited about taking advantage of their new Android phone and its potential for modding, do something that bricks their phone because they simply didn't know better. Distinguishing threads intended for Developer Edition phones is not intended to benefit the knowledgeable "crack flasher", developer, coder or themer, it is intended to help the "noob" or less experience user from doing something that will brick their phone or lock their bootloader.
With recovery and root now available for the Developer Edition Note 4 ROMs are not far behind. And, hopefully root and SafeStrap will be available for the retail version soon. With that/those events, the ability for new/inexperienced users (both retail owners and developer edition owners) to separate what's safe to flash and what isn't is going to get very complicated. This is only going to be compounded as OTAs begin to be released and different version of firmware start to show up for users to flash. Having a way to separate or distinguish threads intended for Retail users only or Developer Edition users only makes sense to me. Just saying. No rant intended. Thank you for listening.
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The only threads that need warnings are those for root and those for recovery. There has been no issue with the S4, S5 or Note 3 sections. Again without recovery nothing will flash and no harm can come to the phones. They are exactly the same devices, just bootloader unlocked. People desperate to root will try anything in spite of the warnings. As far as I have seen on previous devices attempts to install recovery will fail and worse that happened was they had to Odin in Stock tar. As I said, unlocked developers editions are not new. They have been in use for Sammy Verizon for almost 2 years with no need for a separate section. If anything the locked edition should be confined to General and Q&A. With so many variants of the same device people will always use the wrong thing. No amount of warnings has ever stopped that. Read through the Sprint S3 sections and find all the bricks caused by flashing international ROMs. Both sections have warnings posted clearly. So we really don't need "the sky is falling" kind of thing here. We just need people to read. The information is there.
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The only threads that need warnings are those for root and those for recovery. There has been no issue with the S4, S5 or Note 3 sections. Again without recovery nothing will flash and no harm can come to the phones. They are exactly the same devices, just bootloader unlocked. People desperate to root will try anything in spite of the warnings. As far as I have seen on previous devices attempts to install recovery will fail and worse that happened was they had to Odin in Stock tar. As I said, unlocked developers editions are not new. They have been in use for Sammy Verizon for almost 2 years with no need for a separate section. If anything the locked edition should be confined to General and Q&A. With so many variants of the same device people will always use the wrong thing. No amount of warnings has ever stopped that. Read through the Sprint S3 sections and find all the bricks caused by flashing international ROMs. Both sections have warnings posted clearly. So we really don't need "the sky is falling" kind of thing here. We just need people to read. The information is there.
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Thanks KennyG123 for your response. I totally concur, reading and researching what you have and what you want to do is the first step for any user. I came to the Note 4 from the DE5 and thankfully when ROMs started to appear the developer or OPs did specify whether the ROM was for retail or DE users. I hope this will be true for the Note 4.
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Thanks KennyG123 for your response. I totally concur, reading and researching what you have and what you want to do is the first step for any user. I came to the Note 4 from the DE5 and thankfully when ROMs started to appear the developer or OPs did specify whether the ROM was for retail or DE users. I hope this will be true for the Note 4.
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Unfortunately this lock down of Verizon and AT&T devices has killed development since the S4. This is the other thing to think about... If someone does crack the bootloader or finds a root and SafeStrap like method, suddenly all the DE ROMs will be usable by all.
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KennyG123 I appreciate what you are saying but I need to disagree with the notion that there is not a need to provide a distinction between threads that focus on mods for the retail versions of the Note 4 and those that focus on the Developer Edition of the Note 4. As you know, the Retail version and the Developer Edition of the Note 4 are identical except for one very important element...the bootloader. Mods/hacks etc. designed for one can be very detrimental to the other. They are not compatible in this respect.
I'm sure with your experience and expertise that you have seen many, perhaps hundreds, of inexperienced users, excited about taking advantage of their new Android phone and its potential for modding, do something that bricks their phone because they simply didn't know better. Distinguishing threads intended for Developer Edition phones is not intended to benefit the knowledgeable "crack flasher", developer, coder or themer, it is intended to help the "noob" or less experience user from doing something that will brick their phone or lock their bootloader.
With recovery and root now available for the Developer Edition Note 4 ROMs are not far behind. And, hopefully root and SafeStrap will be available for the retail version soon. With that/those events, the ability for new/inexperienced users (both retail owners and developer edition owners) to separate what's safe to flash and what isn't is going to get very complicated. This is only going to be compounded as OTAs begin to be released and different version of firmware start to show up for users to flash. Having a way to separate or distinguish threads intended for Retail users only or Developer Edition users only makes sense to me. Just saying. No rant intended. Thank you for listening.
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^^ This, thank you.
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The only threads that need warnings are those for root and those for recovery. There has been no issue with the S4, S5 or Note 3 sections.
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I don't post much here as I usually find my answers with a little searching, but I'm a daily lurker and have been since the days of OG droid. I strongly disagree with your statement. There has indeed been plenty of confusion in the Note 3 threads. Also a good little bit of drama and some anger over poorly marked threads. Yes, the threads should be more clearly marked "Developer Edition" by the OP, but it doesn't always happen. In the end, I think it just makes more work for you to moderate but that's your choice.
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Unfortunately this lock down of Verizon and AT&T devices has killed development since the S4. This is the other thing to think about... If someone does crack the bootloader or finds a root and SafeStrap like method, suddenly all the DE ROMs will be usable by all.
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Well, you'd think so, but (in the case of the S5 anyway) the number of ROMs available for the retail version out number the number available for the developer edition. You'd think that it would be the other way around. Most developers aren't releasing two versions, one for retail (SafeStrap) and one for DEs. As of last week anyway. Either way, development for the S5, either model, is pretty slim. And, the unified ROMs (AOSP) just don't seem to be ready for prime time. There is always something that just doesn't work right or not at all.
But I have faith. I hope the Note 4 will be blessed with a multitude of ROMs to accommodate a wide range of user wishes and desires...besides it's getting close to Christmas, gotta have faith, right?
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Well, you'd think so, but (in the case of the S5 anyway) the number of ROMs available for the retail version out number the number available for the developer edition. You'd think that it would be the other way around. Most developers aren't releasing two versions, one for retail (SafeStrap) and one for DEs. As of last week anyway. Either way, development for the S5, either model, is pretty slim. And, the unified ROMs (AOSP) just don't seem to be ready for prime time. There is always something that just doesn't work right or not at all.
But I have faith. I hope the Note 4 will be blessed with a multitude of ROMs to accommodate a wide range of user wishes and desires...besides it's getting close to Christmas, gotta have faith, right?
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That is because so few of the DE's were sold.
Adding more forums only adds to the risk of someone flashing the wrong thing. Better they see threads like this than assuming all Verizon variants are the same. There are many other variants that have no forums, US Cellular, Metro, Boost, some Chinese knock off... It is ludicrous to make a separate section for every one. Developers have usually been good about properly marking their work.
If people don't read the documentation then the only person at fault is themselves.
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Also people running out and buying the DE not knowing that the device also only has a 30 day warranty..
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To those who have bought many the 30 day is well known . Don't have any issue with this. It's also voided the second that the phone is unlocked and rooted. i am buying the phone to void a warranty.
Chuck_IV said:
Personally I'd rather see a separate forum for all the Developer specific stuff. Drop it all there so there is no confusion... but that's just me.
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I 100% agree with this.
I'm almost new to XDA having used the forums to install both CM11 and CM12.1 on my HTC One X recently. I vaguely understand the lingo and might be able to follow any answers I might get. Here's my need.
1. Looking to upgrade to an S4 but which Variant is easiest to mod or runs the best afterwards?
2. Where to purchase a new preferably unlocked S4?
3. Must be able to bypass AT&T and hotspot or tether without them shutting me down after modding.
4. Is there a better or more stable ROM than the CM mods? CM12.1 acted stupid on my HTC One X but I like the CM11 running on it.
5. I know most users on this forum are Sammy users, but could I do better than an S4 and stay under $300 new while still getting a phone with a removable battery and SD slot?
Feel free to ask questions if I've left anything out.
I'd recommend an GT-I9505 international variant. I think it has the most development going on.
The GT-I9506 has better specs, but there is fewer development.
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I'd recommend an GT-I9505 international variant. I think it has the most development going on.
The GT-I9506 has better specs, but there is fewer development.
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Thanks, this is exactly why I asked. I was initially assuming the 9506 would be the better option but not knowing the support here was an issue. What about places to purchase? I also think I've read that an international version does not have a warranty. Is that correct? I'd hate to get a lemon and not be able to do anything about it.
The international version is basically the carrier free version, I think. It's the one you can buy from an electronics store, without carrier bloat. If it's new you should have a warranty, no matter what.
As for places to buy, I can't recommend you any. You might want to try Swappa.
can someone provide me iwth a model number i can google nad hopefully purchase/ i am upgrading from the gs5. apparently they have made these things impossible to root now but i want an s8 active model specifically for its battery life.
zetsui said:
can someone provide me iwth a model number i can google nad hopefully purchase/ i am upgrading from the gs5. apparently they have made these things impossible to root now but i want an s8 active model specifically for its battery life.
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A u model is the easiest i guess still kinda having issues with all of them. I would look for a diffrent device for rooting not much we can do other than a few mods and audio. A few root apps. No major major roms no twrp
TheMadScientist said:
A u model is the easiest i guess still kinda having issues with all of them. I would look for a diffrent device for rooting not much we can do other than a few mods and audio. A few root apps. No major major roms no twrp
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which manufacturers are the best for the unlocked bootloaders? This ****ing sucks! When I was doing my GS5 it was beginnning to get tricky with Samsung and Motorola was the worst, now it seems like they are all doing it. It's also not clear where I can get the international versions or even their model numbers online, if they are unlocked bootloaders or the same wavelengths (GSM etc)
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which manufacturers are the best for the unlocked bootloaders? This ****ing sucks! When I was doing my GS5 it was beginnning to get tricky with Samsung and Motorola was the worst, now it seems like they are all doing it. It's also not clear where I can get the international versions or even their model numbers online, if they are unlocked bootloaders or the same wavelengths (GSM etc)
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The s8 g950f is unlockable bootloader and will work gsm here state side. Have to get em online.