OEM sized extended batteries - Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Every time a phone is released there is a plethora of "extended batteries" released that fit using the stock battery door. Some are legit and I am not knocking them but there are a lot rip offs out there. But this got me thinking. When samsung decided on the 3220mah battery is that because that is the most cells that can be packed into a battery that size? Or is there room for more but they just chose not to include a higher mah? If that is the case then it would help legitimize some of these "extended batteries" being sold that are the same size as the oem.

Normally more capacity needs more space, so the Batterie gets larger. Most of the Batteries that promise larger capacity are simple fakes.
I hab my best experiences with Mugen Batteries, otherwise i prefer the Originals.
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New High Capacity 1530 mah Batteries?

Hi folks,
I am seeing 1530 mah batteries on sale in eBay now. They are supposed to be the same size as the original 1350 mah battery. My problem is that the image used to display the battery is the same as the image used to display the original 1350 mah battery. (Part number: 35H00120-01M)
So, is this a "rip off" or are the sellers just lazy and use an "old" image?
Does anyone have any experience with these new high capacity batteries that they can share with this forum?
Thank you,
David
Hmm... well you also see sellers on Ebay flogging adaptors specifically to convert the audio output of the Touch HD to a 3.5mm socket... Puzzled.
My experience with cheap far east batteries for various products is very mixed. I've had some really good ones at silly low prices, yet some others that were no good at all.
Sometimes they omit protection devices from the batteries to save cost, which can make them more prone to blowing up especially if inadvertently overcharged or short-circuited. Omitting this protection can also help make room for larger capacity cells.
Usual phrase applies: "buyer beware".
Personally I would avoid.
I have used a lot of 3rd party batteries before and I would say 95% of them are rubbish especially the ones where they claim higher capacity for the same physical size. I have used larger batteries that comes with its own custom battery cover. Only these types of batteries have lasted longer than the original.
At the end of the day HTC, Nokia, SE, Samsung etc. would want to pack the highest possible capacity for a given space while maintaining safety standards. They know what they're doing... They want to "squeeze" as much as possible to make our devices smaller. Cheap 3rd party manufacturers are not going to have the same clout.
Li Polomer ? Battery from another phone??
Could the difference in capacity be due to an upgrade in technology? That is moving from a straight Li ion battery to a Li ion polymer battery?
Further to this discussion, are there any other batteries from another make / model phone / PDA that is 100% compatible with the HTC Touch HD AND has a higher capacity than the original 1350 mah?
Thank you,
David
I would say it has to be a few months more before any decent extended battery appears in the market.
Stupid question: Has the Diamond (or the Touch Pro) the same batteries, or at least the same size? I think there will be more battieres for the Diamond right now, as it has been published a few weeks earlier.
johnpatcher said:
Stupid question: Has the Diamond (or the Touch Pro) the same batteries, or at least the same size? I think there will be more battieres for the Diamond right now, as it has been published a few weeks earlier.
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Diamond and Touch Pro share the same battery. i have a second HTC OEM Blackstone battery for backup. the ebay posting could also be a typo; 1350 vs. 1530? if i'm going for extra capacity, it will be with a battery that provides at least 25%+ more capacity.
delewin said:
Could the difference in capacity be due to an upgrade in technology? That is moving from a straight Li ion battery to a Li ion polymer battery?
Further to this discussion, are there any other batteries from another make / model phone / PDA that is 100% compatible with the HTC Touch HD AND has a higher capacity than the original 1350 mah?
Thank you,
David
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New technologies tend to be more expensive when they are brought to the market to cover development costs, and it's very rarely, that cheap asian products represent newest technologies, which is not used by the big manufacturing companies ...
Hi Guys,
If you are looking for good and reputation battery source,
you can proceed to www.worcell.com
They provide high quality batteries, be it normal or high capacity.
I bought an O2 Atom Life battery. It could last me 3 good days with high usage.
Now, I'm still waiting for them to produce the Blackstone battery. I definitely will get
one space battery!
delewin said:
Hi folks,
I am seeing 1530 mah batteries on sale in eBay now. They are supposed to be the same size as the original 1350 mah battery. My problem is that the image used to display the battery is the same as the image used to display the original 1350 mah battery. (Part number: 35H00120-01M)
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Well i think it's an typo. 1530 - 1350. Why not 1600 or something else. 1530mAh is a verry strang capacity for a battery.
HTC MAX 4G T8290 battery
I thought perhaps the 1500mAh battery that comes with the MAX 4G might fit into our Touch HDs. But the MAX is slightly thicker than the HD which may explain a bigger battery..
That Worcell site looks promising.
o2crazy said:
Hi Guys,
If you are looking for good and reputation battery source,
you can proceed to www.worcell.com
They provide high quality batteries, be it normal or high capacity.
I bought an O2 Atom Life battery. It could last me 3 good days with high usage.
Now, I'm still waiting for them to produce the Blackstone battery. I definitely will get
one space battery!
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Thank you 02crazy, that Worcell site looks promising.
I agree. A little patients will be beneficial. I envisage a 1800 mah or 2200 mah extended battery option soon. It will come with a matching back, to allow for the extra thickness of the battery. This would not put me off, as I have used a PDA with a "piggy back" second battery for years. (It would not win a beauty contest, but it lasted for days.)
Regards,
David
cortez.i said:
Diamond and Touch Pro share the same battery.
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But does this mean that the HD uses the same battery as well?
cortez.i said:
Diamond and Touch Pro share the same battery.
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How sure are you about that? Diamond's battery is 900mah and Pro's is 1350nah!
I have ordered a battery for 1530. Obtained in 1500. The manufacturer is unknown, that photo http://picasaweb.google.ru/lh/photo/WZxn7zATZXWUD2u7VU1dHQ?feat=directlink
Test has not yet succeeded. But at first look, working longer
Ηello! i am thinking to buy this cheap ebay batteries (if they worth it). Does anyone know if they are good?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-1530mah...372724?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item3a6f0f3cb4
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-Recharg...ccessories&hash=item3cb6f811c3#ht_2991wt_1138
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Galili-...Accessories&hash=item230b076791#ht_2931wt_950
Any good battery close to stock battery? I want to buy a new one!

Battery HB4F1

What about this battery????
1700MAH HB4F1 Battery For Huawei U8800 i found on ebay
Seems interesting. Have anyone baught?
Should work fine. Nice to know that the U8800 battery is the same as some other Huawei devices too. Should be plenty of batteries for sale.
I fancy a high capacity battery myself.
looks good...i already got an extra one from deal extreme but it's a cheap knock off. would love to hear from someone that bought this one.
darkado said:
looks good...i already got an extra one from deal extreme but it's a cheap knock off. would love to hear from someone that bought this one.
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it s not good the one from dealextreme; I mean does it last enough;
Tapatalked from bed...
i know, 5 hours at the most. still ok for emergencies.
I bought it today... now just waiting for it....
HB4F1
the cheap knock off is the one you can find from dealextreme by searching u8800?
dealextreme.com/p/genuine-hb4f1-compatible-rechargeable-3-7v-1500mah-li-ion-battery-for-huawei-e585-e5830-70554
i just ordered 2. :/
but it's genuine AND compatible
Hi
I have found this battery on ebay: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GOLD-2430MAH-HB4F1-BUSINESS-BATTERY-HUAWEI-E5830-E5832-E5836-E5838-E5-ASCEND-/130576493812?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item1e66f72cf4 and from the description "seems" possible a good capacity. For me if the technology is always lipo is impossible a capacity of 2.4A with same battery size and weight, but 1.7~1.8 is credible if really the cell is Japan made.
Bye
Fabryxy
Edit: sorry but from the neutral feedback of the seller seems that many people have denote same\less capacity of stock battery.
fabryxy said:
Hi
I have found this battery on ebay: REMOVED and from the description "seems" possible a good capacity. For me if the technology is always lipo is impossible a capacity of 2.4A with same battery size and weight, but 1.7~1.8 is credible if really the cell is Japan made.
Bye
Fabryxy
Edit: sorry but from the neutral feedback of the seller seems that many people have denote same\less capacity of stock battery.
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see this
Made in Japan
2 year warranty
Ultra-high capacity battery
Maximizes time between charges
Delivers superior performance
Robust & durable battery
Direct battery replacement
Stable and safe to use
No "memory effect"
Lightweight lithium-ion
Capacity: 2430mAh
Well the original battery is a Lithium Polymer and NOT a Lithium Ion
so there is a difference between both off them
Pretty ****ty battery. Probaply not the battery what it says.
someone have tried one of these powerful battery like the 1700mah or 2430mah one?
qualtier88 said:
someone have tried one of these powerful battery like the 1700mah or 2430mah one?
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From what I've read, the "amazing" gold 1800/2430mAh batteries are extremely crap.
i have ordered a 1800 battery and waiting to arrive in monday so ill test it and post my opinion!
anyone tested? its capacity is real?

Extended Battery.

Hi all.
Let's share our experience about batteries, this is more about hardware than software side. Where is better to buy quality replacement batteries and etc...
I'm using two normal capacity 1350 mAh replacement batteries on my HD2 Nexus android. Both of them I bought on ebay quite long time ago and... what can I say, they performing ok, maybe slightly worse that was original one (lost). Recently I bought extended battery on ebay, twice thick and twice heavier than original one with back cover, 2400 mAh. Strange thing, it lasts about the same (sometimes I think even less) as original capacity ones. Peope say do calibration... This is what I'm going to do tonight, but strange, these normal capacity ones have not done any calibrations and last well. The question, why double capacity one does'n last any longer???
I will update you about changes after calibration.
Because of the calibration it just charges it till the normal capacity battery would be full, and but since this is a extended capacity battery it will need to be calibrated so that it knows that it can be charged further.
But, that's my theory. just try it out and see for yourself.
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Tikras said:
Hi all.
Let's share our experience about batteries, this is more about hardware than software side. Where is better to buy quality replacement batteries and etc...
I'm using two normal capacity 1350 mAh replacement batteries on my HD2 Nexus android. Both of them I bought on ebay quite long time ago and... what can I say, they performing ok, maybe slightly worse that was original one (lost). Recently I bought extended battery on ebay, twice thick and twice heavier than original one with back cover, 2400 mAh. Strange thing, it lasts about the same (sometimes I think even less) as original capacity ones. Peope say do calibration... This is what I'm going to do tonight, but strange, these normal capacity ones have not done any calibrations and last well. The question, why double capacity one does'n last any longer???
I will update you about changes after calibration.
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Extended batteries will drain down to 15% then should stay there for a while. And even if the phone shuts down due to drainage all you have to do is remove the battery, put it back in and you're back to around 40%.
I use 2 extended ones from ebay and they last at least 1.5-1.75 longer than the skinny original htc one.
Try to wipe battery statistics in advanced option in CWR Recovery

Ways to extend battery by changing hardware?

Are there any third party companies that make batteries for Nexus 4 with increased capacity? Or are there any cases with a battery attached to it like PowerSkins?
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ladygagadisco said:
Are there any third party companies that make batteries for Nexus 4 with increased capacity? Or are there any cases with a battery attached to it like PowerSkins?
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I dont know if you knew, but the Nexus 4 does not have a removable battery. Unless you did and those PowerSkins things charge things wirelessly.
It'd be awesome if the case charged your phone via the microusb charging port and then had its own charging port to make up for it. They've done it for the iPhone, so I don't see why it's not feasible.
Silencer96 said:
It'd be awesome if the case charged your phone via the microusb charging port and then had its own charging port to make up for it. They've done it for the iPhone, so I don't see why it's not feasible.
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Or have a qi charging case
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Well I know the battery is not removable. But I'm willing to open the back up and switch the battery to a much higher capacity one.
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ladygagadisco said:
Well I know the battery is not removable. But I'm willing to open the back up and switch the battery to a much higher capacity one.
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If you want higher capacity you would need a physically bigger battery. It's not possible to make a battery with more capacity and the same size as the original. So this would mean you need a different back and this won't happen since there is a lot of essential hardware on the back plate.
There are currently no extented battery case for our phone. You best bet for power on the go is an external battery pack. I recommend the monoprice 5000mah.
Change the phone to another, all set.
neotekz said:
If you want higher capacity you would need a physically bigger battery. It's not possible to make a battery with more capacity and the same size as the original. So this would mean you need a different back and this won't happen since there is a lot of essential hardware on the back plate.
There are currently no extented battery case for our phone. You best bet for power on the go is an external battery pack. I recommend the monoprice 5000mah.
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Not entirely true, you can up the battery about 300-400MAH without adding size, just costs more.
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i doubt anyone will offer a extended battery cover for this phone. The back of the phone is too complicated.
Even if it were possible to put a higher capacity battery in the stock space...the ~10-20% wouldnt be worth a company developing it for the phone.
IRX120 said:
Not entirely true, you can up the battery about 300-400MAH without adding size, just costs more.
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manufactures use better batteries than any aftermarket brands including mugen and seidio. They are not going to go to all the effort trying to make the thinnest phone possible and then stick a cheaper thicker battery in there. If you are going by the claims of these aftermarket brands then they are just inflating their capacity. Here's a site with thorough testing of these aftermarket batteries compared with OEM. http://batteryboss.org/

[Q] Extended Battery Cases

Besides The ZeroLemon & Mugen Extended Battery Cases, Are There Any Other Ones On The Market? I'm Not Really A Fan Of Either For My Own Reasons.
No.
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Geecho said:
Besides The ZeroLemon & Mugen Extended Battery Cases, Are There Any Other Ones On The Market? I'm Not Really A Fan Of Either For My Own Reasons.
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Have you considered using a battery pack as needed? The first advantage is that your phone continues to fit in your pocket and doesn't look like a 1980's mobile
You only need to connect the battery pack to the phone for an hour or 2 till it picks up sufficient charge for whatever you're doing.
When not in use the battery pack can be kept in a bag, pocket etc out of the way.
The capacity of a battery pack is lineally proportional to its volume (well, the cheaper ones provide less capacity compared to a good brand), and you can get anything from 2000mAh (almost the capacity of the Nexus battery), up to 11,000mAh+. Not sure why you'd need 11,000mAh unless you were going to the jungle for a week, but it may suit some people.
I have had a 5,500mAh pack from NewTrent for a couple of years now and it's a good compromise between capacity and size. Check them out on Amazon, they often have heavily discounted offers.
Some even include the cable connection integrated into their body now, so they are very convenient. I would not consider a battery case, since the battery pack option is cheap and very convenient

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