[Q] Power Button Light and Nothing Else - Please Help - Acer Iconia A500

Just as the title states - the power button will light up, but just a black screen.
I've read around, holding this button and that button, loading zip files on the sd card - holding this and that, still nothing.
I get no vibration and still a black screen like it's turned off.
Perhaps a bad logic board? - If so, I'll stop wasting my time and yours.
Thanks in advance for any replies.

samething here...power light on , black screen. Is it totally bricked?

Helps to see that I'm not the only one with the same issue.
I can only hope someone chimes in to direct us both in the right direction.

I think you should try to enter apx mode (you have to keep pressing reset with a needle or something like that, press the power button for 3-4 seconds, and after 1 second release the reset), and see if you can flash a new bootloader and recovery with the A500APXFlash tool (search in the web). But you have to retrieve the cpuid of your tablet, in order to use the flash tool...It's a kind of mess, but it can be done.

omniastrider said:
I think you should try to enter apx mode (you have to keep pressing reset with a needle or something like that, press the power button for 3-4 seconds, and after 1 second release the reset), and see if you can flash a new bootloader and recovery with the A500APXFlash tool (search in the web). But you have to retrieve the cpuid of your tablet, in order to use the flash tool...It's a kind of mess, but it can be done.
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I'm lost.
Let me just say, when I mean a black screen, I mean it's black - no lcd back-lighting or vibration from the unit.
I've tried what you described w/o a micro sd card in the slot and nothing hooked up to the tablet what so ever - nothing happens, except the power light coming on.
I've searched for the tool, read a little bit, but I'm getting lost within the terms.
Nothing I come across really explains what and how to do from a dummy standpoint.

Velocity_Stack said:
I'm lost.
Let me just say, when I mean a black screen, I mean it's black - no lcd back-lighting or vibration from the unit.
I've tried what you described w/o a micro sd card in the slot and nothing hooked up to the tablet what so ever - nothing happens, except the power light coming on.
I've searched for the tool, read a little bit, but I'm getting lost within the terms.
Nothing I come across really explains what and how to do from a dummy standpoint.
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I know that feeling...It's non easy, even for those who knows a bit of pc and electronic devices (like me). In these days I have tried all I could try in order to revive the Acer of my friend. At one point it didn't even show the Acer logo, neither anything on screen, only the power light on. I suppose that the bootloader was corrupted somehow. So, if you wanna try, you will need:
1) the CPUID of your tablet. For this you can use usbdeview, if you have ever connect the tablet to your pc (if you haven't it's much more difficult!). Double click on USBdeview.exe, click on "edit" and then on "find" (or simply CTRL+F). Search for "Acer Iconia" and then double click on the result. Now copy the serial number somewhere.
2) If you got the cpuid you can get the SBK (copy the serial numer on this site, and click on "generate my SBK". Now copy all the SBK and paste it on notepad or similar. All the 4 parts, with all the spaces!)
3) Now the tricky part: open the A500APXFlash tool, click on "Bundle market", "view bundles" and select one of the bootloader with a decent recovery (for example the bundle number 17). Type the number of the bundle, and click on "download". You can download it on your pc, or you can download the bundle in a temporary file. It doesn't change much, you choose.
4) You can skip the "BTC selection", and go on. Now follow the instructions on screen, and if your tablet get in apx mode maybe you are lucky enough to recover it.
I don't remember if you have to install the Iconia drivers in advance, but maybe you already have them on your pc.
If you manage to flash the bootloader, then you could flash whatever rom you want. If something is not clear, feel free to ask.

omniastrider said:
I know that feeling...It's non easy, even for those who knows a bit of pc and electronic devices (like me). In these days I have tried all I could try in order to revive the Acer of my friend. At one point it didn't even show the Acer logo, neither anything on screen, only the power light on. I suppose that the bootloader was corrupted somehow. So, if you wanna try, you will need:
1) the CPUID of your tablet. For this you can use, if you have ever connect the tablet to your pc (if you haven't it's much more difficult!). Double click on USBdeview.exe, click on "edit" and then on "find" (or simply CTRL+F). Search for "Acer Iconia" and then double click on the result. Now copy the serial number somewhere.
2) If you got the cpuid you can get the SBK (copy the serial numer , and click on "generate my SBK". Now copy all the SBK and paste it on notepad or similar. All the 4 parts, with all the spaces!)
3) Now the tricky part: open the A500APXFlash tool, click on "Bundle market", "view bundles" and select one of the bootloader with a decent recovery (for example the bundle number 17). Type the number of the bundle, and click on "download". You can download it on your pc, or you can download the bundle in a temporary file. It doesn't change much, you choose.
4) You can skip the "BTC selection", and go on. Now follow the instructions on screen, and if your tablet get in apx mode maybe you are lucky enough to recover it.
I don't remember if you have to install the Iconia drivers in advance, but maybe you already have them on your pc.
If you manage to flash the bootloader, then you could flash whatever rom you want. If something is not clear, feel free to ask.
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I hooked the tablet up to my pc and saw the term APX pop up at the bottom right of the pc screen, like any new usb device does.
I ran usbdereview in section 1 of your instructions. Found APX in the list, double clicked and it brought up very little info about the device, but no serial number. Is the serial number on the original box the box the tablet came in possibly be the same serial number I might be trying to find? Cause I have the original box with all the bar code label info.
I won't go any farther until I hear back from you.
Thank you very much for attempting to walk me through this process, it really means a lot.
By the way, I'm a pc guru too, on a hardware platform mostly. I've built may puters and enjoy overclocking them to see how far I can push them, but when it comes to phones and tablets, I'm lost.
Thanks again.

Velocity_Stack said:
I hooked the tablet up to my pc and saw the term APX pop up at the bottom right of the pc screen, like any new usb device does.
I ran usbdereview in section 1 of your instructions. Found APX in the list, double clicked and it brought up very little info about the device, but no serial number. Is the serial number on the original box the box the tablet came in possibly be the same serial number I might be trying to find? Cause I have the original box with all the bar code label info.
I won't go any farther until I hear back from you.
Thank you very much for attempting to walk me through this process, it really means a lot.
By the way, I'm a pc guru too, on a hardware platform mostly. I've built may puters and enjoy overclocking them to see how far I can push them, but when it comes to phones and tablets, I'm lost.
Thanks again.
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Unfortunately the serial numbers are not the same....
Now, if you can't find the cpuid using usbdeview, there is another option, you have to use Linux! Here is the guide to follow to get the cpuid. After obtaining the cpuid, the rest is pretty easy. I hope this will help!

omniastrider said:
Unfortunately the serial numbers are not the same....
Now, if you can't find the cpuid using usbdeview, there is another option, you have to use Linux! Here is the guide to follow to get the cpuid. After obtaining the cpuid, the rest is pretty easy. I hope this will help!
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I got lost pretty quick.
This is how far I made it: I downloaded Ubuntu 14.04.2, burned the image to disc, ran it live as a trial (wow, it's different than windows), used the embedded Firefox to install all of the needed libusb (not sure I did all that correctly).
The thread said "grab the code eppeP posted and save to to a text file as apx.c", so that is where I got lost.
I restarted the PC to come back here for more guidance.
I'm also unclear on the following from where I left off in the guide "fire up terminal, brouse to where the apx.c file is ........ect" What terminal are they talking about? How do I get there?
Then farther down in the thread it says "run the following commands: sudo su gcc apx.c -o apx -apx -lusb-1.0 ............ How do run these commands?
Like I said, I'm lost and very sorry I can't grasp this.

Velocity_Stack said:
I got lost pretty quick.
This is how far I made it: I downloaded Ubuntu 14.04.2, burned the image to disc, ran it live as a trial (wow, it's different than windows), used the embedded Firefox to install all of the needed libusb (not sure I did all that correctly).
The thread said "grab the code eppeP posted and save to to a text file as apx.c", so that is where I got lost.
I restarted the PC to come back here for more guidance.
I'm also unclear on the following from where I left off in the guide "fire up terminal, brouse to where the apx.c file is ........ect" What terminal are they talking about? How do I get there?
Then farther down in the thread it says "run the following commands: sudo su gcc apx.c -o apx -apx -lusb-1.0 ............ How do run these commands?
Like I said, I'm lost and very sorry I can't grasp this.
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Sorry if I didn't answer before, but I was a little busy...So, Linux can be a little tricky, especially if you're not a developer (I learned something in school). By the way, all you have to do is to install those softwares, and then compile this piece of code, using gcc (the Gnu C Compiler). The linux terminal is basically like the Dos terminal, known as command line terminal, as you may know. There may be many kind of terminals in the Linux environment, one of the most used is the Bash Shell. In Ubuntu you can open a terminal by pressing CTRL + ALT + T.
So, just to be sure to be clear:
1) save this code in a file called apx.c
2) Boot Ubuntu, install GCC, lsusb, libusb-1.0.x, libusb-1.0-dev
3) Open the terminal, change the "working directory" with the "cd" (it's "change directory" in short) command. You have to get to the directory where the apx.c file is.
4) Run the following commands
sudo su
gcc apx.c -o apx -lusb-1.0
5) Next, pop your tablet into APX mode - plug in microUSB, hold the RESET button, and press power for around 4 sec
6) Run the following commands (assuming same root terminal permissions. If not run sudo su beforehand)
./apx
If all went well, you should obtain the cpuid, or whatever it's called. Don't forget to write that damned number somewhere (even taking a screenshot or a photo of the screen!!). I hope this can help you.

Just a minor update to what I've done so far, with questions. LOL
I decided to load Ubuntu as a side OS on my old laptop, which Vista resides on. I didn't want to screw with my tower in case of a crash, but wanted to retain my downloads and work instead of working on a *live" platform. (not knowing anything about dual boot OS)
Went well I guess, but Ubuntu takes over as the main OS if no action is taken on the boot screen, then if action is taken and you don't log into Windows, Ubuntu resorts back and loads. (lame IMO)
Ubuntu does not recognize any kind of wireless signal and wanted me to set it up manually (like I know all the numbers to make this happen, not), so I just hooked a CAT5 cable from the living room router for my next steps.
I attempted to to download the files mentioned, but remembering when I was running the *live DVD" there was a Ubuntu site for software packages, so I went there to grab what I needed. (I think this method was a fail)
When on the Ubuntu package site, I had the option of AMD64 and i386 for each file, I chose the AMD64 first and it gave a error window, then I followed up with the i386 and got nothing but a window with the circular icon and nothing in the window after that, so I closed the window.
I really have no idea if any of the downloads and installs actually work at this point. The laptop does have Intel hardware, so I'm thinking maybe the AMD64 software error-ed out because of that, but it doesn't explain why I never got a confirmation running the i386 software.
Should I have just stayed away from the Ubuntu site all together and just installed for a basic Linux system?
I'm done for tonight, but on vacation for the next week, so hopefully I can gain some ground and move forward to revamp this bricked Acer tablet.
I really appreciate your help and patients you've provided me to this point.

Now I'm really stuck.
I saved that code on my windows desktop and in Ubuntu desktop - as a windows text file. (not sure if that is the correct way)
Anyway, I did open the terminal using the 3 keys as described.
It shows: user [email protected] name:~$
I can't navigate away from that prompt....... I get: Bash: command not found or file or directory not found.
I started by using: cd/home/user name/Desktop/APX and various combinations.
Man I feel dumb.

We could try another approach: you could create a new file on the Linux desktop called "apx.c", and paste into it the source code. Then, using the command "ls" (which is the same dos "dir" command) and "cd" you could find the path to the file.
I report here some commands I used to compile the application needed to get the cpuid:
[email protected]:~$ sudo su
[sudo] password for white:
[email protected]:/home/white# ls
Desktop Downloads Music Public Videos
Documents examples.desktop Pictures Templates
[email protected]:/home/white# cd Desktop
[email protected]:/home/white/Desktop# ls
apx.c
[email protected]:/home/white/Desktop# apt-get install libusb
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
E: Unable to locate package libusb
[email protected]:/home/white/Desktop# apt-get install libusb-1.0
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Note, selecting 'libusb-1.0-0' for regex 'libusb-1.0'
Note, selecting 'libusb-1.0-0-dbg' for regex 'libusb-1.0'
Note, selecting 'libusb-1.0-0-dev' for regex 'libusb-1.0'
Note, selecting 'libusb-1.0-doc' for regex 'libusb-1.0'
libusb-1.0-0 is already the newest version.
libusb-1.0-0 set to manually installed.
The following NEW packages will be installed:
libusb-1.0-0-dbg libusb-1.0-0-dev libusb-1.0-doc
0 upgraded, 3 newly installed, 0 to remove and 90 not upgraded.
Need to get 245 kB of archives.
After this operation, 1,795 kB of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y
Get:1 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty/main libusb-1.0-0-dev amd64 2:1.0.17-1ubuntu2 [54.7 kB]
Get:2 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty/main libusb-1.0-doc all 2:1.0.17-1ubuntu2 [115 kB]
Get:3 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty/main libusb-1.0-0-dbg amd64 2:1.0.17-1ubuntu2 [76.0 kB]
Fetched 245 kB in 3s (74.4 kB/s)
Selecting previously unselected package libusb-1.0-0-dev:amd64.
(Reading database ... 163905 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to unpack .../libusb-1.0-0-dev_2%3a1.0.17-1ubuntu2_amd64.deb ...
Unpacking libusb-1.0-0-dev:amd64 (2:1.0.17-1ubuntu2) ...
Selecting previously unselected package libusb-1.0-doc.
Preparing to unpack .../libusb-1.0-doc_2%3a1.0.17-1ubuntu2_all.deb ...
Unpacking libusb-1.0-doc (2:1.0.17-1ubuntu2) ...
Selecting previously unselected package libusb-1.0-0-dbg:amd64.
Preparing to unpack .../libusb-1.0-0-dbg_2%3a1.0.17-1ubuntu2_amd64.deb ...
Unpacking libusb-1.0-0-dbg:amd64 (2:1.0.17-1ubuntu2) ...
Processing triggers for doc-base (0.10.5) ...
Processing 32 changed doc-base files, 1 added doc-base file...
Setting up libusb-1.0-0-dev:amd64 (2:1.0.17-1ubuntu2) ...
Setting up libusb-1.0-doc (2:1.0.17-1ubuntu2) ...
Setting up libusb-1.0-0-dbg:amd64 (2:1.0.17-1ubuntu2) ...
[email protected]:/home/white/Desktop# gcc apx.c -o apx -lusb-1.0
[email protected]:/home/white/Desktop# ./apx
Error: Failed to open device! //failed because there wasn't any tablet attached!!!
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Help!! messed up updating cyanogenmod! Bricked??

I really need some help please! I think I may have done something very bad. I have a tmobile mytouch 3g. I was trying to update from cyanogenmod 4.2.1.9. I was using a darkstar theme from ringer nation.
Here’s where I think i screwed myself. I am fairly new to all this stuff so I was trying to find a guide on how to update the mod and instead of doing it properly by adding the files to the sd card, doing a wipe, and then installing everything. I instead messed up and did an install of sapping.nbh and basically followed all the directions to originally root the phone. Including formatting the sd card and everything. When I realized that i was doing this all wrong I was still able to load my os and everything seemed ok. I was getting a sd card error that said that the card was blank or had an unsupported file system, but I was able to mount it so, I erased everything off the card and then put the cyanogen update and the drc83_base file and attempted to load into recovery and do the update.
I loaded into and did a wipe. I attempted to follow the instructions on upgrading from the cyogen page. (God I wish I had found that page first) But after I did the wipe and I attempt to Apply any from SD I get “error: sd card is not mounted”
When I attempt to reboot the phone it goes to the tmobile mytouch logo, THEN it goes to my them logo from Ringer Nation, then it just goes to a black screen I let it sit there for like 5 minutes to see what would happen, but nothing. So I took out the battery and sim. I can get into recovery though so I hope that someone can help me figure out where to go from there.I thought that since I had done a wipe that the theme would have been deleted as well? This is weird.
I did do a nandroid backup before. Hopefully that will prove to be helpful. Sorry for the long post, but I wanted to dump as much useful information about this problem so that hopefully someone will be able to help! BTW I'm using a mac with the latest snow leopard software.
As I am desperate for help, please reach out to me via aim – icolinirie or via email
Thank you in advance for everything. This is a great community, and all of Cyanogen’s work is greatly appreciated!!
EDIT: I really need some help! Here's some more information. I have a Magic 32B. Its running Cyanogenmod v1.4 + JF Recovery.
From what I have gathered I need to adp into my phone in order to get it to mount. Anyone know how to do this on a mac. I am trying, but I don't fully understand. I have created the .bash_profile from terminal and typed the following "export PATH=${PATH}:/Users/itunes/Documents/android-sdk-mac_86/tools" which is the path to the tools file in the sdk. I am just stuck at this point. I don't know what to do from here.
Hi I quote.
Install SDK utilities you need to connect your PC to your phone
You can download the full SDK from the Android Developer website for your platform
http://developer.android.com/sdk/index.html
You'll need to download the SDK appropriate for your platform and extract it into a directory somewhere. I'm going to assume you're using Windows here and suggest you extract it into a folder called
C:\AndroidSDK\
on your hard disk. You can put it anywhere you like really, but if you do you'll need to substitute it for the folder above.
Add the tools directory to your system path for easy access
In Windows it's easy to add the Android SDK Tools directory to your system path. Doing this lets you use the Android SDK tools anywhere and makes it easier for you.
On Windows XP: Go to Control Panel->System, Choose the 'Advanced' tab and then click 'Environment Variables' To do this on Vista/Windows7: Simply go to Control Panel->System and choose 'Advanced System Settings' and then 'Environment Variables'
Now that you've got here locate Path under System Variables and click Edit, then add the following to the end of the string displayed:
;C:\AndroidSDK\tools\
Then click OK until you get out of the menus.
Now that you've done this you should be able to bring up a command shell and type 'adb' and it should run straight away without needing to change path.
Please note that you can skip this step completely if you find it too complicated - however you will need to CD to the ?AndroidSDK\tools every time you open up a command prompt so it's worthwhile doing. I'm going to assume you have made the change above in all further examples as it gets too complicated really. If you're not confident in a DOS shell, I'd suggest you do a little bit of reading up on basic navigation in DOS first.
Enable Debugging mode on the phone before connecting to PC and installing the ADB driver
Menu > Settings > Applications > Developement > USB Debugging
Install the USB drivers correctly - check using "adb devices".
If you have already connected your phone to your computer before then the USB drivers are probably already loaded. If you're lucky then typing 'adb devices' in a command prompt will produce something like:
C:\AndroidSDK>adb devices
List of devices attached
XXXXXXXXXXXX device
Where XXXXXXXXXXXX is the serial number of your phone. If it doesn't produce that line, then you need to check Device Manager and ensure the device drivers for your phone were installed correctly.
If you are having issues installing the ADB driver, you need to connect your phone then go into Device Manager and check the ADB device properties. Check the following property and it'll look something like:
Device Instance Id: USB\VID_0BB4&PID_0C02&MI_01\7&293A7D0D&0&0001
To fix the driver installation problem, you need to edit the driver's .ini file and change all the references of 0C03 to 0C02, or 0C02 to 0C03 if your device property states your Device Id is 0C03.
Note: After flashing a new ROM, your Device Id may change again to either 0C03 or remain as 0C02. So you need to update the .ini file again as above to refelect the change and re-install the driver. Another known way to fix the above issue is to download and install HTC Sync - this seems to install the correct drivers.
How to use ADB
ADB stands for Android Debugging Bridge - it's a useful way of talking to your handset while it's running. ADB provides commands for copying files to and from your phone, installing packages and debugging your Android applications.
Useful commands include:
adb devices - lists which devices are currently attached to your computer
adb install <packagename.apk> - lets you install an Android application on your phone
adb remount - Remounts your system in write mode - this lets you alter system files on your phone using ADB
adb push <localfile> <location on your phone> - lets you upload files to your phones filesystem
adb pull <location on your phone> <localfile> - lets you download files off your phones filesystem
adb logcat - starts dumping debugging information from your handset to the console - useful for debugging your apps
adb shell <command> - drops you into a basic linux command shell on your phone with no parameters, or lets you run commands directly
How to use Fastboot
Fastboot is another boot method and is used to drop the phone into a safe mode to load/flash alternate roms. You need USB debugging turned on before you can use Fastboot mode - so I'd recommend you do this first (under Settings->Applications->Development->USB Debugging). You will also need to power off your phone first (hold down Power and select Power Off) and then hold down the Back+Power Buttons to start the phone in Fastboot mode. You will need your USB cable connected to be able to issue any commands and assuming your drivers are correct you should be able to issue:
C:\AndroidSDK>fastboot devices
List of devices attached
XXXXXXXXXXXX fastboot
Other commands in this mode include - we'll cover these below in subsequent sections.
fastboot boot <filename> - boots a rom stored on your pc specified by the filename
fastboot flash <partition> <filename> - flashes a rom stored on your pc, partition can be one of {boot, recovery, system, userdata}
fastboot binaries for mac and linux can be found here.
3. Learn how to use fastboot and boot a recovery rom
Download a recovery rom for your device
There are several different recovery roms available for the HTC Magic devices.
Amon_RA has created several nice recovery roms available from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=530492 and get the Recovery Rom appropriate for your device - these recovery roms have Nandroid Backup and Nandroid Restore and are perfect for the average user.
You can also use Cyanogen's 1.3.1 Recovery ROM available for: PVT32A devices and PVT32B devices - this rom has some additional options for partitioning your SD card for ?Apps2SD/Swapper/etc.
Fastboot the recovery rom
Fastbooting a rom doesn't write anything to your device - it just loads it directly from your PC - so it's a completely safe way of fixing/recovering/backing up your existing rom. To fastboot a rom you need to first drop your phone into Fastboot mode and check that it's working. Now drop into a command shell and make sure the recovery image you're wanting to load is in the same directory that you're running this in. If it's called something other than recovery-rom.img then substitute that instead.
C:\AndroidSDK> fastboot boot recovery-rom.img
If you are having problems changing the directory in the command prompt, just make a copy of the command prompt .exe itself, and place it in the folder that contains the recovery rom, then run the above command.
And once again, if you have a perfected SPL which does not allow remote fastboot, you will have to fix it first.
Use the Recovery Rom to Backup your current ROM with Nandroid
Once you've booted to a recovery rom - you can use the Nandroid Backup option. If you get a 'cannot mount /dev/mkblkxxx error' when you do this then check your microSD card is inserted correctly and if so, wait a few seconds for it to register to the recovery rom correctly. If at first you don't succeed, try, try again (sdcard can take a few seconds to mount!)
You do not need to be a rocket scientist to do this.
you can use the ADB to put in recovery again by fast boot
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=530492
Hey! First off Thanks for the reply! I really appreciate someone chiming in to throw some advice my way! But while reading your thread you described the instructions for windows. In this case I have a macbook pro running snow leopard.
I did download the android sdk to my documents folder and I understand that I need to execute some scripts from the terminal on my mac to get things running. But I really dont know what those scripts are or what exactly to do.
I can get into the recovery mode on the MyTouch by holding power and home when powering on. So do I open the console from the recovery screen on the mytouch and then run the scripts on the terminal from my macbook? And which scripts should I run to get the sd card mounted onto my desktop (that is what I'm trying to do). Im not too sure what to do from there either. I want to get the phone back to stock android 1.5 os so that I can root again. My sd card has to be corrupted because it keeps giving me an error saying that it wont mount when I try to do a fix file systems or try anything from that menu. What to do??
What!
can you get in the recovery?
Yeah I can get into cyanogen v1.4 recovery. I'm just stuck from there.
Ok ok If I understand this correctly then you are not briced. you do not have any imag on your phone.
if you do not have anything nadroid recovery on sdcard you must enter a new ROM on the sdcard and flash it
remember full wipe.!
Yes this is what I believe I must do. But I need to either find a way to mount my SD card from the phone while it is in recovery mode (cyanogen v1.4). That's my problem.. I wish there was an easier way to get it mounted onto my mac from the recovery screen. I think I'm just going to go to best buy tomorrow and get a micro sd card reader and maybe another sd card just in case.
Once I have done that though. What files should I put onto the sd card in order to flash it back to original factory android 1.5.
What do you think?
Good idea
I have never used cyanogen v1.4 recovery
I use the recovery-RA-sapphire-v1.5.2H.img and ther you can use USB togle in recovery mode, You must go to the store to buy the adapter that fits on your Mac, I have two adapters for your Mac, you can borrow
Yeah that's the plan for tomorrow. Thanks for the offer man. But I'm in Los Angeles, Ca LOL!! Where are you?
icolinirie said:
Yeah that's the plan for tomorrow. Thanks for the offer man. But I'm in Los Angeles, Ca LOL!! Where are you?
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Bergen . norway.
http://maps.google.no/maps?f=s&utm_...o-google-gm&utm_medium=ha&utm_term=google map
OMG! WOW! Looks like a beautiful place! LA is a concrete jungle but beautiful in its own respects. Bergen looks like a very comfortable place! I enjoy finding out about these things. Maybe someday I'll visit. I'd definitely love to!
icolinirie said:
OMG! WOW! Looks like a beautiful place! LA is a concrete jungle but beautiful in its own respects. Bergen looks like a very comfortable place! I enjoy finding out about these things. Maybe someday I'll visit. I'd definitely love to!
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it is sick cold. I'll take one picture out the window

[GUIDE] Where's my CPU ID at, why you need adb and whats fastboot!!

Retrieve your CPUID
(1) Use a500Manager Tool (download at bottom of post)
This tool is your first port of call! It will download the drivers, retrieve your CPUID, and flash the unlocked bootloader.
(2) Using Terminal Emulator
Reboot your tab
Code:
dmesg | grep androidboot.serialno
some have reported this did not work for them but that this one did when they tried it:
Code:
dmesg > /mnt/external_sd/dmesg.txt
(3)Using USBDeview
Suggest you extract to the same folder you used for your adb files,
USBDeview will only work when you have previously plugged your tab into the PC WHILE
you were running HC Rom and BL
1 Run the exe and you will be presented with a window of all the USB devices you have ever plugged into your computer.
2 Click on "VendorID" along the top to sort them
3 Look for the number "0502" under VendorID or 3325 "ProductID"
4 In the serial number column will be a 15-digit number this is your device ID
5 Write the number down and put a 0 in front of it and now you have your CPU ID!!!
(4) From your nandroid backup
In the cwm folder on your ext. sd card - open one of your backup folders and look for "uid.txt" file.
From cwm 1.7.2 on, will dislay your "uid" on the menu screen, and from memory TWRP does too.-
(5) Run command "adb devices" in command prompt HC ONLY
(6) From Custom Recovery
Most of the custom recovery's now have your uid displayed on the main screen of the recovery menu
(7) From a working Tab...
open yr file explorer, esfile explorer is a great one....
navigate to:
/sys/firmware/fuse/acer_cpuid - add a zero to the front!!! easy peasy
(8)From a bricked or non-booting Tab
then things become a little more complex. And more involved if you have no backup.
The only way is using Linux. srbeen has a guide to do this using code by eppeP. There are those who being Linux noobs have had success with this method.
Read the whole thread as there are some helpful hints all thru the guide. If you get stuck eppeP is still around and will help out, if you can show an example of
"how and where" something does not seem to be working for you. If your questions go unanswered its because its been answered before so please go thru the thread!!!
here.
srbeens guide here
Cannot boot tab because:
(1) "Write Protected - need to enter password
If you encrypt your data and forget your password - you must do a full data reset wipe to get into your system again
(2) Stuck on the Acer Screen
From user JDGM3NT4L - Want to return to stock? This is for you...
A500 Back to Factory Stock the easy way
- via stock update.zip method
- no cpuid required,
- use with or w/out patched bootloader.
- needs cwm installed
- full data wipe needed
(3) Other things to check
- check data cables, micro-usb cable required
- plug in to another USB Port
- check you have the cable actually connected to both device
Try a different PC. Vista/Win 7/XP usually have no problems, there are issues with Win8 and 64bit systems
Also a heads up for when entering your uid's into the tool generators - a space counts as a character and will produce
an incorrect sbk!!!
You CANNOT use lowercase letters in your cpuid. If you do lowercase it will give you a different result
Vaches new SBK Tool here OR [/B]
DRIVERS
The drivers are not installed properly, I can hear you all already!! I've done that over and over and its not working!!!!
sometimes if you fail to complete a nvflash you need to completely reinstall the Acer Drivers before it seems to want to finish...ssoooooooo, uninstall and reinstall!!!!
Acer Support for Acer APX/Fastboot/Recovery Drivers
Android SDK for the adb/USB drivers - You can d/l a mini zip containing just the adb and fastboot drivers attached to this post "adb_fast.zip"
GUIDES
Civs Guide to flashing the bootloader
walkthrough using apxflash tool at Step 6
From Civato's OP of The Guide: nvFlashToolPackages
Skrilax_CZ bootloader thread and should be "required reading" for anyone mucking about in their tabs internals!!!!
Rollback to HC
jazzyjames guide here
Iconia Root/gingerbreak: For returning to Honeycomb
GETTING ADB SET UP
It's a pain typing "my path" into cmd, can't I just type "adb devices"
Set adb as Environment Variable or call adb direct from command prompt
first, copy the path to your install - in this case:
"Path to adb" = C:\android\
1. Click on the Start menu
2. Right click on Computer
3. Click on Advanced system settings
4. Click on the Environment Variables button
5. Look for Path in the System Variables section. Double click on it
6. Go to the end of the Variable value box and put in a semicolon ;
7. Now paste your "Path to adb" after the ;
8. it should look like this in this case C:\android\adb
9. Now test it out - start - run/search - cmd - in cmd window type: adb devices
10. If you've followed the steps you will see your device ID - voila!!!!
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I added a link to this in the V3 guide.
Thanks for this.
civato said:
I added a link to this in the V3 guide.
Thanks for this.
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Why thank you...all good civ, anything to help really
Stock ICS unable to access any of this...
dibb_nz said:
If you are upgrading/downgrading using APX mode then you need your cpu id.
if you're having problems then keep reading...
Upgrading via an EUU/SBK method is dependant on a "successful communication connection" between your TAB and PC
If you cannot run "adb devices" and have it return your CPU ID then the flashing process will fail.
If you have a custom ICS rom AND on the HC Bootloader this number will be your serial no. please see note below
ok, lets go, you need the correct drivers installed to begin with:
1) go to Acer Support and download the Acer Drivers
2) run the Setup.exe to install them
You must also have the ADB drivers from the android-sdk (see attached zip)
3) Extract the adb files to your desktop
4) Open command prompt as admin
5) In the command prompt window type cd
6) leave a space after it
7) drag and drop the adb folder into the command window (This saves you having to enter the path manually)
8) Now, type adb devices and write your device ID down with a zero in front...done!!!
If you cannot get adb to retrieve your ID then the flashing process will not work as it should.
You need to fix this first....
*****Note: HC Bootloaders on custom ICS builds
adb will report your device ID as your serial number, which of course will not work for APX based flashing - thanks to tehdomil for the heads up
you guys will need your original HC CPU ID which you can get from the back up you made before flashing the ICS rom. For those that didn't - try usbdeview below.
*****How to retrieve your CPU ID from USBDeview
Suggest you extract to the same folder you used for your adb files, just to keep things tidy...you're bound to want these things again
1) If you haven't plugged your tab into this pc before, do so now, before you run the program.
1a) Run the exe and you will be presented with a window of all the USB devices you have ever plugged into your computer.
2) click on "VendorID" at the top to sort them
3) Look for the number "0502" under VendorID or 3325 "ProductID"
4) In the serial number column will be a 15-digit number this is your device ID
5) Write the number down and put a 0 in front of it and now you have your CPU ID
The adb guide will still apply as far as getting your tab and pc talking on the same wave length
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Ok, followed all the steps. But cannot get my PC to recognise my tablet completely. MTP:yes, or Camera:yes, yet there is a driver missing which fails to load/install. Any ideas from you bright people?
I would like to access bootloader and flash recovery.
V frustrating.
For example, where do you find mtpfs and mount for Win 7 x64?
Thanks
DrPlumEU said:
Ok, followed all the steps. But cannot get my PC to recognise my tablet completely. MTP:yes, or Camera:yes, yet there is a driver missing which fails to load/install. Any ideas from you bright people?
I would like to access bootloader and flash recovery.
V frustrating.
For example, where do you find mtpfs and mount for Win 7 x64?
Thanks
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What shows in the command window after typing in adb devices?
dibb_nz
/ adb devices
List of devices
/
In device manager, I have a "Other devices" Acer Iconia A500 no driver installed, yet "Portable Device" Acer Iconia A500 is fine.
I can copy and paste files from tablet while in MTP mode. No difference with SD card mounted or unmounted.
Very frustrating. The last device driver I assume is "USB device" but despite mucking around with Acer USB device drivers 1.00.0524 and 1.06.1500 no luck.
Grr
oops.....
save for later
list of devices shows but no number
DrPlumEU said:
dibb_nz
/ adb devices
List of devices
/
In device manager, I have a "Other devices" Acer Iconia A500 no driver installed, yet "Portable Device" Acer Iconia A500 is fine.
I can copy and paste files from tablet while in MTP mode. No difference with SD card mounted or unmounted.
Very frustrating. The last device driver I assume is "USB device" but despite mucking around with Acer USB device drivers 1.00.0524 and 1.06.1500 no luck.
Grr
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sorry bit caught up at the moment
things to check first:
...1) That you do have USB debugging enabled:Settings>Applications>Development
...2) Win7/Vista work best; XP can be titchy
...3) You d/l the "Just_adb.zip" to install the adb drivers - you dont mention an entry for them in Device Manager
...4) Switch USB ports on your pc
...5) Try another USB cable
...6) Put the MTP thing aside for now, they have no bearing on this issue
If still no joy then if you can, try another pc
If thats not possible then uninstal and reboot both devices
then reinstall both acer and adb - acer ones mainly
When you connect your tab again WAIT for windows to install them and see how u go
ADB or USBDeview both tell me that my CPUID is 0123456789ABCDEF. Of course, if I get the SKB and use NVFlash to validate it, it fails with a message that says "USB device not found."
I found my CPUID (0x033c20c541a051d7) in an old nandroid backup and tried it but with the same results.
Any ideas?
CPU ID : Dev ID : UID
spoupard said:
ADB or USBDeview both tell me that my CPUID is 0123456789ABCDEF. Of course, if I get the SKB and use NVFlash to validate it, it fails with a message that says "USB device not found."
I found my CPUID (0x033c20c541a051d7) in an old nandroid backup and tried it but with the same results.
Any ideas?
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Ok i'm amending the guide as we speak, just to be clearer.
The device ID as reported by adb is 15 digits long the (UID)
when we use this no. for an EUU based flash we add a 0 to the front making 16 digits (CPUID)
the one in your nand adds 0x to the basic UID 17 digits
the CPUID from the EUU is for Honeycomb bootloaders
Which I believe is different for ICS bootloaders
and different again for HC b/l on ICS Rom!!!
i tried the SBK generator last nite for the first time and entered only my UID
and had no probs
so give that a go (in the example you gave) 033c20c541a01d7
dibb_nz said:
Ok i'm amending the guide as we speak, just to be clearer.
The device ID as reported by adb is 15 digits long the (UID)
when we use this no. for an EUU based flash we add a 0 to the front making 16 digits (CPUID)
the one in your nand adds 0x to the basic UID 17 digits
the CPUID from the EUU is for Honeycomb bootloaders
Which I believe is different for ICS bootloaders
and different again for HC b/l on ICS Rom!!!
i tried the SBK generator last nite for the first time and entered only my UID
and had no probs
so give that a go (in the example you gave) 033c20c541a01d7
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Thanks for your help, but no luck. I tried the 033c20c541a01d7 number already in SBK and NVFlash still gives the same error. BTW, SBK generates the same number for both 033c20c541a01d7 and 0x033c20c541a01d7. Apparently, SBK is smart enough to ignore the leading 0x.
Any other suggestions?
spoupard said:
Thanks for your help, but no luck. I tried the 033c20c541a01d7 number already in SBK and NVFlash still gives the same error. BTW, SBK generates the same number for both 033c20c541a01d7 and 0x033c20c541a01d7. Apparently, SBK is smart enough to ignore the leading 0x.
Any other suggestions?
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that blows that theory
what does dmesg say?
edit: what tool are u using for nv flash, what b/l u on?
and if ADB or USBDeview both tell you CPUID is 0123456789ABCDEF then.....
spoupard said:
....if I get the SKB and use NVFlash to validate it, it fails
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So, the NV Flash tool invalidates the uid/sbk where usbdeview and adb agree??
with a message that says "USB device not found."
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i no nothing of the nvflash process "in this instance" but if device is not found then there is no "connection" happening between the 2....have u posted on the thread where you got the tool?? not trying to fob you off at all its just theres alot methods out there at the moment and i'm doing my best to keep up with them all!!!
I found my CPUID (0x033c20c541a051d7) in an old nandroid backup and tried it but with the same results.
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are you saying cpuid here is different to what the other 2 report???
i'll be out for an hour or so but will stop in when i get back . good luck
dibb_nz said:
So, the NV Flash tool invalidates the uid/sbk where usbdeview and adb agree??
i no nothing of the nvflash process "in this instance" but if device is not found then there is no "connection" happening between the 2....have u posted on the thread where you got the tool?? not trying to fob you off at all its just theres alot methods out there at the moment and i'm doing my best to keep up with them all!!!
are you saying cpuid here is different to what the other 2 report???
i'll be out for an hour or so but will stop in when i get back . good luck
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I'm using NVFlash from civato's post on how to flash the ICS bootloader. I have a connection because I can launch a shell in ADB and navigate around on my tablet. Also, if I didn't have a connection, "adb devices" would not return any devices. I can also see the device listed in Windows device manager.
I am running the HC bootloader with CM9 ROM. I had been using TeamWin recovery, but found out it is not compatible with the ICS bootloader. I have since replaced that with the ACER Recovery found in the Market. I did another nandroid backup after installing ACER Recovery (thor's recovery) and it gave me a cpuid of 033c20c541a051d7.
- u got adb ones all good bt not apx ones - reinstall acer drvs
spoupard said:
I'm using NVFlash from civato's post on how to flash the ICS bootloader. I have a connection because I can launch a shell in ADB and navigate around on my tablet. Also, if I didn't have a connection, "adb devices" would not return any devices. I can also see the device listed in Windows device manager.
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yep the usb-adb drivers are all there but you said earlier u have a fail error of device not found from the flash validator, so it sounds like the issue was not the incorrect sbk but the device not found....run the acer driver setup ...windows will install the apx drivers when your tab is ready to enter apx/download mode.
I am running the HC bootloader with CM9 ROM. I had been using TeamWin recovery, but found out it is not compatible with the ICS bootloader. I have since replaced that with the ACER Recovery found in the Market. I did another nandroid backup after installing ACER Recovery (thor's recovery) and it gave me a cpuid of 033c20c541a051d7.
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I have no idea why you have so many uid's, if any one knows how exactly these are generated from recovery, i'd love to know!!!!
dibb_nz said:
So, the NV Flash tool invalidates the uid/sbk where usbdeview and adb agree??
i no nothing of the nvflash process "in this instance" but if device is not found then there is no "connection" happening between the 2....have u posted on the thread where you got the tool?? not trying to fob you off at all its just theres alot methods out there at the moment and i'm doing my best to keep up with them all!!!
are you saying cpuid here is different to what the other 2 report???
i'll be out for an hour or so but will stop in when i get back . good luck
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dibb_nz said:
yep the usb-adb drivers are all there but you said earlier u have a fail error of device not found from the flash validator, so it sounds like the issue was not the incorrect sbk but the device not found....run the acer driver setup ...windows will install the apx drivers when your tab is ready to enter apx/download mode.
I have no idea why you have so many uid's, if any one knows how exactly these are generated from recovery, i'd love to know!!!!
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Well I have to admit that this whole problem was my fault. No matter how many times I read the instructions, I somehow breezed right past the part about entering apx mode. Thank you so much for your help!
I don't have enough numbers
Okay I tried using USBDeview and it came up with a 11 digits - looked where the instructions said.
dawgpoundfan said:
Okay I tried using USBDeview and it came up with a 11 digits - looked where the instructions said.
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Try to run dmesg from yr tab first, ------ hat tip to jp
If you haven't rebooted your Tab for a while, then in the output of dmesg, the very old entries, the ones just after bootup, which contain the entry/line containing 'androidboot.serialno' are lost/overwritten.
Just reboot your Tab & run dmesg again.
Just use the command ''dmesg | grep androidboot.serialno"
Voila!
Cheers, Jp
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I can;t seem to find my cpuid. I am running a custom ics rom, with the HC bootloader.
Do not have a nandroid backup to look at.
dmesg does not show androisboot.serialno after a reboot.
osbdeview shows an 11 digit number.
Any ideas?

Dual Booting ubuntu and windows 8.1 on the Pipo W2

Ok, So I thought I would post this guide to installing ubuntu 14.04 on the Pipo W2. This guide might help on some of the similar tablets out there too, like the voyo a1 mini. But I can't be certain about the others
Also, to give credit where credit is due, this guide is mostly adapted with little adaptation from the following guides:
http://asus-t100-ubuntu.blogspot.com/
http://linuxnorth.wordpress.com/2014/08/23/installing-linux-on-the-asus-transformer-book-t100/
and work on wifi wouldnt be possible without help on the ubuntu forums
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2249936&p=13151763#post13151763
and the wifi drivers were posted for the rlt8723bs by this guy here
http://www.hadess.net/2014/09/and-now-for-some-hardware-onda-v975w.html
First the information as to what works, and what doesn't . As of 11/02/2014 stock ubuntu 14.04 works, the touchscreen works. However wifi, sound, bluetooth, suspend, hibernation, power button, volume buttons, and the micro sd card do not.
Updating to newer kernels changes what works and what doesn't. I was able to get wifi working on kernels 3.16.2 and the power button, and volume buttons, but the touchscreen didn't work on 3.16.2 on kernels 3.17.0 and 3.17.1 I was able to get wifi working, and the touchscreen works, but the volume buttons and power button didn't. you can still boot up with these later kernels, but it's not as easy. I had to go into ubuntu advanced options and boot to recovery for each kernel, then from the recovery menu boot to desktop. A bit of a pain. I think it's a graphics related problem, and I'm working on it, but as of this writing, the kernels I tested from 3.15.x on wouldn't boot without this. (if they booted at all, 3.18.rc2 didnt boot at all)
I am still testing various kernels, to see which one seems the most stable and enables the most features I will update this as new information is worked out.
Ok, starting. Part 1. The Prep work.
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Things you will need. A USB hub, a USB keyboard, USB wireless adapter, (or USB LAN adapter) and a mouse. (or trackball) And a USB thumbdrive of course. Without these things, you wont be able to complete the installation easily. Plug them all in, and connect them to the tablet.
Download An ubuntu 14.04.1 lts image (you can substitute ubuntu gnome, 14.04.1 lts, or lubuntu 14.04.1 lts image etc) here's a link to Ubuntu though. you can do this on your tablet, or your desktop. up to you.
http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop
Select 32 bit. (NOT AMD64) and click on download, then unless you wish to donate, click on the link that says "not now, continue to the download"
now download Rufus from here
http://rufus.akeo.ie/ and use rufus to install the ISO image on your thumbdrive by clicking on the disk icon next to ISO image near the bottom, and selecting the ubuntu-14.04.1-desktop-i386.iso file (or ubuntu-gnome-14.04.1-desktop-i386.iso or whatever flavor you downloaded) The top option on the rufus menu should automaticly list the thumbdrive, if it doesnt, select the thumbdrive unless you want to screw up whatever drive it's pointing at. (you might be able to make your system unbootable if you don't do this carefully so PAY ATTENTION) Is it listing your thumbdrive? if so, click on start on rufus and let it finish.
now you need to download this file here: https://drive.google.com/folderview...&usp=sharing&tid=0B9C1WK1FQhjfcXNrbzN6djQzajg
Leaving the thumbdrive in, unzip the unpackit.tar.gz file to the thumbdrive root directory, and overwrite all files. when you are done, if you did this on your desktop, safely remove the thumbdrive and plug it into the hub connected to your tablet. if you did this with your tablet, leave it plugged in and continue.
Now, for the windows setup.
First, get to control panel. (you can access it by pressing the windows key to get to the start menu, then going to PC settings, and selecting control panel) click the view to small icons, then click on Power Options. Next click on "Choose what the power button does" and from the next menu, click on "change settings that are currently unavailable"
now scroll down and uncheck the box that says "turn on fast startup" then save.
IMPORTANT NOTE: if you want to screw up windows, so that it wont boot, do the next step in a hurry and pay little attention to what you are doing.
Next you need to set up up some space for Ubuntu. (NOTE: you must have 8-10GB or so empty space on windows partition first, so if you don't have 8-10GB free, go delete some things until you have enough space free.) Ready? Ok you need disk management. go to your desktop then right click on on the start button. and select Disk Management from the menu Expand the window so you can see what you are doing, and right click on "Windows (C select "Shrink Volume" from the list. You will see a window that lists
"Total size before shrink in MB"
"Size of available shrink space in MB"
"Enter the amount of space to shrink in MB"
"Total size after shrink in MB"
Now, using the "Enter the amount of space to shrink in MB" option, type in 10000 or so, (8000 works too) to shrink the volume by 10 gb or 8gb (yes I know it's overly rounded, forgive my OCD) and leave the space as unallocated. do NOT shrink to the max it will let you. always give windows some space to work with.
IMPORTANT NOTE: If you shrink the volume by more then the free space, you will probably screw up your windows installation. I am NOT going to help you figure out how to fix windows, if you ignored these warnings and screw it up. Mostly because I haven't the faintest idea how to fix your windows installation if you shrink the volume too much.
Next eject any Micro SD card you have in the tablet, and pull it out.
Lastly for windows side of things, go back to your desktop, and again right click the start menu, open the shut down options list, then hold shift down and click on restart
You should now be faced with a blue screen with several options, click on "Use a Device" then select "UEFI:Removable Device" and allow the tablet to restart. it will boot back up to windows, but now you should have the USB drive in your UEFI settings boot options. Power the tablet down, all the way, and this time, when you see it start to boot up, press f7 over and over and over until you see the boot option menu, select your thumbdrive and hit enter.
You should be faced with the Grub menu now, press e to edit, and arrow over to where it says video=VGA-1:1368x768e delete the 1368x768 and replace it with 800x1280 now the end of that line should say:
video=VGA-1:800x1280e reboot=pci,force
then hit f10 to boot. it should take a few min, but boot to desktop, if it doesnt, power off the tablet by holding down the power button for 12 seconds, and try again. If it doesn't boot and just errors with rpmb timeout errors for more then 5 min, just try again. (and unplug anything but the keyboard and usb thumbdrive from your hub until you reach desktop.
Once you hit desktop, wait a good 15 seconds before touching anything, otherwise kernel panic hits sometimes.
Once you are at your desktop, click in the upper right corner and go to system settings, and go to Brightness & Lock and uncheck the box that says "dim screen to save power" and change "Turn screen off when inactive for" to never.
Next exit that screen and connect to your wifi or make certain your wired network is working. check to make certain you have internet access. then hit ctrl-alt-t to open a terminal. type the following
sudo umount /dev/mmcblk0p*
now kill that window. you are now ready, FINALLY ready to install ubuntu.
Part 2 : Installing Ubuntu
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Click on the icon to install ubuntu, then when the window pops up, select your language and continue
On the next window check both boxes to install updates and third party software, (third party is probably optional) and click continue
Now, we wait. wait wait wait and wait. the next window will take quite a while to pop up. probably rpmb timeout errors as it checks all the drives. might be 30 min or so. no way to speed this up.
Now PAY ATTENTION: Next window, click on the last option that says "Something Else" if you click standard install, you can kiss windows goodbye.
Following window, will list all your drives. do you see that 10000 or 8000 MB of space you created earlier? nice and round and most importantly, easily recognizable? click on that it should say "free space", then click on the "+" button., when the create partition box pops up, select logical instead of primary, and select the mount point to / and Use As: should say "Ext4 journaling file system" it will list the partition as something like mmcblk0p5 (might be mmcblk0p6 or mmcblk0p4 or whatever. pay ATTENTION to this, write it down. you will need it later.
don't worry about swap space, the installer crashes if you try to set any space aside as swap space. so just leave the entire unallocated space for the ext4 partition
click on "Install Now" and a warning will pop up, just click continue (this is a warning about it suggest swap space. you cant, so just continue)
select your timezone, keyboard layout, then username, computer name, password on the next screens, and DON'T encrypt your home partition. and let it install
It should run for a while and finish installing
When it finishes, don't reboot, and instead exit the installer and power off instead of rebooting. you will see it stops after system halted. once you see that, hold the power button for 12 seconds to power off the device.
Leave everything plugged in, and power on, when you see the grub menu, this time hit "C" to drop to a command line. and remember the number at the end of your partition where you installed linux? get out that paper. you need it now. now type:
linux (hd1,gpt5) (dont hit enter yet) if your partition was 6 instead of 5 (mmcblk0p6 instead of mmcblk0p5) then instead of gpt5 use gpt6 etc.
now continue and add /boot/vmlin so that the command line reads
linux (hd1,gpt7)/boot/vmlin now hit Tab
it should autofill and read something like
grub> linux (hd1,gpt5)/boot/vmlinuz-3.13.0-32-generic
still dont hit enter. now add root=/dev/mmcblk0p5 (or whatever your partition was) followed by video=VGA-1:800x1280e reboot=pci,force
the final line should read something like
grub> linux (hd1,gpt5)/boot/vmlinuz-3.13.0-32-generic root=/dev/
mmcblk0p5 video=VGA-1:800x1280e reboot=pci,force
NOW you can hit enter.
next line. type:
Initrd (hd1,gpt5)/boot/initrd and press Tab again
now it should read something like
grub> initrd (hd1,gpt5)/boot/initrd.img-3.13.0-32-generic
now hit enter
now type boot then hit enter.
it should boot to desktop now
ok now we need to fix grub so you can boot without the thumbdrive in
make certain you are connected to the internet, via wired or usb wireless adapter, and open another terminal by hitting ctrl-alt-t
now copy and paste this in and hit enter:
sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install git bison libopts25 libselinux1-dev autogen m4 autoconf help2man libopts25-dev flex libfont-freetype-perl automake autotools-dev libfreetype6-dev texinfo
when it asks to install hit a y and let it continue
when it finishes and you see a terminal prompt again, type or copy:
git clone git://git.savannah.gnu.org/grub.git
and hit enter at the next prompt type
cd grub
followed by enter again, then type or copy:
./autogen.sh
hit enter again and at the next prompt type or copy:
./configure --with-platform=efi --target=i386 --program-prefix=""
enter again, at when it finishes, at the next prompt type
make
and hit enter. At the next prompt (will take a while to finish) type or copy:
cd grub-core
and hit enter. then copy and paste in:
sudo ../grub-install -d . --efi-directory /boot/efi/ --target=i386
hitting enter again. At the next prompt, type or copy and paste in:
cd /boot/efi/EFI
hit enter then paste in:
sudo cp grub/grubia32.efi ubuntu/grubia32.efi
and hit enter
now we get to edit grub.
next command you type or paste in should be:
sudo nano /etc/default/grub
and we get to edit the following line
GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT
find that line, and delete the words quiet and splash. and replace with
video=VGA-1:800x1280e reboot=pci,force
hit ctrl-x and save as you exit.
now we have the LAST command you need to type here. it's:
sudo update-grub
and of course hit enter.
once you have the terminal prompt again, you can exit the terminal, and power off the tablet again. (you will need to hold the power button for 12 seconds after system halts. get used to this.)
Now, I'm going to assume you don't want ubuntu to be the default OS to boot into yet. if you really do, skip this part, if not, continue.
Disconnect the usb thumbdrive and then press the power button on your tablet., Now press F7 over and over until the UEFI boot menu shows up Select "Enter Setup"
arrow over to the boot menu, and select windows as the number 1 option.
now, your tablet should be set up, to boot into windows by default.
To boot to ubuntu, use F7 to enter the boot menu on startup, and select grub and ubuntu
you can leave it with grub as the bootloader if you want. there are ways to configure grub to boot into windows by default, but you will need to keep a keyboard with the tablet at all times then. since sometimes it wont auto boot, and will wait forever for the enter key to be pressed to select your boot option.
I'll add information to my next post to explain how to rotate the screen in ubuntu, as well as information for updating kernels and getting the internal wifi to work.
ok, tips and tricks. to rotate the screen, you need to enter two commands into the terminal
first to rotate the view to the right, you type:
xrandr -output VGA1 -rotate right
on my most recent installation (ubuntu mate 14.04) this didnt work. so I needed instead to use
xrandr -o right
then hit enter of course. this WONT rotate the touchscreen. to rotate that, we need xinput.
first you can type xinput list to list what devices are present. I assume you will see FTSC1000:00 2808:5056 listed. if so, this will work, if not, you will need to adjust this command to fit what you see listed. (most important if you are adapting this guide to another bay trail tablet other then the pipo w2) the command that you want, assuming that's your touchscreen is
xinput set-prop "FTSC1000:00 2808:5056" "Coordinate Transformation Matrix" 0 1 0 -1 0 1 0 0 1
and hit enter of course. your touchscreen should now be rotated to the right as well,
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ok, Wifi, to get wifi up and running, you will break screen rotation. Also it will break your normal boot process, requiring you to boot though advanced options for ubuntu, and recovery mode after that. The wifi is also unstable, and prone to hanging, requiring you to disconnect and reconnect at random intervals. It's not a perfect workaround, pretty far from it in fact, but it does at least prove the wifi is possible to get working. we probably need a better driver. Overall, you will get much much MUCH better performance with a usb wifi module. but that's extremely annoying to use so feel free to experiment here.
step one, go to here: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.18-rc4-vivid/
and download the following files. http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-pp...eneric_3.18.0-031800rc4.201411091835_i386.deb
http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-pp...1800rc4_3.18.0-031800rc4.201411091835_all.deb
http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-pp...eneric_3.18.0-031800rc4.201411091835_i386.deb
now copy them to your desktop in ubuntu.
now in terminal type:
cd Desktop
then type:
sudo dpkg -i linux*.deb
once it's done, reboot your tablet. now go to grub, and select advanced options for ubuntu, then select recovery mode for the 3.18-rc4 kernel. and resume normal boot once you see the recovery menu show up
this should allow you to boot to desktop. after which go back to terminal, and type the following commands in, one line at a time of course, waiting for the next prompt before typing the next line
sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-generic git
git clone https://github.com/hadess/rtl8723as.git
cd ~/rtl8723as
make clean
make
sudo make install
sudo depmod -a
sudo modprobe 8723bs
reboot. go through the recovery mode menu again to boot to desktop. wifi should now be working. you will need to use recovery mode to boot from this point on. since 3.18-rc4 wont boot without it. Be forwarned, suspend mode breaks wifi it seems. one time of the suspend, and you will need to reboot to get it working again. So I would suggest disabling everything applicable to your tablet screen shutting off. also, the wifi is extremely unstable. as noted above. it can quit for no reason, and need to disconnect and reconnect to use it more.
information for how to install the wifi driver was gained here:
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2249936&p=13151763#post13151763
information as to why the wifi won't work, even with the drivers, on 14.04 default kernels was obtained from this thread https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=67921
would this work on a clovertrail device?
I don't think so. I don't think clovertrail is Linux friendly at all. Clovertrail+ should be, but not clovertrail. However the clovertrail+ devices I know of are the Asus padfone the Asus zenfone and the lenovo k900. All of which use droidboot. (Can't load grub). And have PowerVR graphics which are not open source, so no Linux drivers. There are probably more clovertrail+ devices out there I just haven't looked into them much.
I added information to the second post about screen rotation, and relevant information to the workaround for wifi. Be advised that it's not a perfect workaround. wifi works, and so does the power button. but it requires booting through recovery mode
It's cool. Do you know whether it works well on the latest W2f?
No idea. Probably though. But I can't be certain. I don't have a pipo w2f to test with.
Arch Linux
Have you tried to install ArchLinux on this tablet?
nope, sorry so far i've just experimented with ubuntu and fedlet. I have not installed fedlet, just booted and looked around a bit.
StridAst said:
nope, sorry so far i've just experimented with ubuntu and fedlet. I have not installed fedlet, just booted and looked around a bit.
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I tried this guide , my interest was just trying to live mode ubuntu , but unfortunately the screen is distorted even changing resolution.
My though is a Pipo W6 .
Did you try to start Live Android X86 ?
Tony Evo said:
I tried this guide , my interest was just trying to live mode ubuntu , but unfortunately the screen is distorted even changing resolution.
My though is a Pipo W6 .
Did you try to start Live Android X86 ?
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I've not tried android at all on mine. I keep meaning to do so, but have not found the time yet. Hmm though on the W6. did you try setting resolution settings at 1200x1920 or just 1920x1200? which number you put first matters and can result in a distorted screen. the w2 is listed as 1280x800 resolution, but to get ubuntu to work without the screen going all wonky, you have to reverse the numbers to 800x1280.
I tried different resolutions, the problem is that the screen is like tripled
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The solution was obvious ... Put the real screen resolution 1920x1200
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Touch screen no works
hmm, which kernel are you using? I've found some of the newer kernels made the touchscreen on the W2 work, some made it not work. things to try.
first post the results of
xinput --list
that might offer some clues. also you could try downloading and installing the 3.18.1 kernel from here
http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.18.1-vivid/
assuming you are using the 32 bit version not the 64 bit version of ubuntu, you would want to download both of the generic i386.deb files, (not the low latency) as well as the all.deb file. I'm assuming that updating the kernel on a live-USB works. I've never tried it actually.
to install you go to terminal, and assuming the files are placed in desktop, type:
cd Desktop
sudo dpkg -i linux*.deb
reboot and see if it helps. if not, you can try some of the other more recent kernels. I've noticed a huge difference from one RC to another. a rc1 file might have working touchscreen and power buttons for the W2, and a rc2 file breaks the touchscreen but the power button works, while a rc3 would have the touchscreen work again, but fail on the power button, etc. see here for all the other kernels. top of the list is the oldest, bottom is the most recent.
http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/
Sorry for my slow replies, I've only really had any spare time in the mornings lately.
StridAst said:
hmm, which kernel are you using? I've found some of the newer kernels made the touchscreen on the W2 work, some made it not work. things to try.
first post the results of
xinput --list
that might offer some clues. also you could try downloading and installing the 3.18.1 kernel from here
http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.18.1-vivid/
assuming you are using the 32 bit version not the 64 bit version of ubuntu, you would want to download both of the generic i386.deb files, (not the low latency) as well as the all.deb file. I'm assuming that updating the kernel on a live-USB works. I've never tried it actually.
to install you go to terminal, and assuming the files are placed in desktop, type:
cd Desktop
sudo dpkg -i linux*.deb
reboot and see if it helps. if not, you can try some of the other more recent kernels. I've noticed a huge difference from one RC to another. a rc1 file might have working touchscreen and power buttons for the W2, and a rc2 file breaks the touchscreen but the power button works, while a rc3 would have the touchscreen work again, but fail on the power button, etc. see here for all the other kernels. top of the list is the oldest, bottom is the most recent.
http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/
Sorry for my slow replies, I've only really had any spare time in the mornings lately.
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But I have a problem .
I dowload ubuntu 14:04 32bit , I create the key with rufus , once finished the process I copy and paste the files that you had put in the folder called " unpackit " .
Starting my PIPO , I press esc , I go in and do the boot devices on the pendrive .
and everything ok .
If you want to try to create another pendrive with another Distro ( 64bit ubuntu , fedora or other ) when I create the key , I start the PIPO but I do not recognize the key ,
can not find the pendrive between devices boot .
Install a 64-bit version of Ubuntu, with a 32-bit bootloader
Take a look at this link: linuxnorth,wordpress,com/2014/12/11/installing-64-bit-linux-on-the-asus-transformer-book-t100/
(change , with .)
I tried to install Arch Linux but couldnt boot it, neither any Arch-derivated. I tried also fedlet and its not bad at all.
Sorry if my questions are a bit stupid. Using this instruction we can install ubuntu OS as the 2-nd OS in parallel with windows, can't we?
If I have ubuntu installed on my tablet am I able to run android apps on it? Is ubuntu equals to android?
StridAst said:
Ok, So I thought I would post this guide to installing ubuntu 14.04 on the Pipo W2. This guide might help on some of the similar tablets out there too, like the voyo a1 mini. But I can't be certain about the others
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Superb! Works 100% on my £20 Voyo A1 Mini, thank you!
Better guide, no offence (and no need to edit anything in Grub):
https://github.com/Manouchehri/vi8/blob/master/Ubuntu_instructions.md
Working (for the majority of the hardware) on my Voyoa A1 Mini (5V2A version.)
mbwf said:
Better guide, no offence (and no need to edit anything in Grub):
https://github.com/Manouchehri/vi8/blob/master/Ubuntu_instructions.md
Working (for the majority of the hardware) on my Voyoa A1 Mini (5V2A version.)
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no offense taken! much appreciated posting a newer/better guide that's the beauty of xda. theres always something newer and better showing up. I wish my pipo tablet still worked so I could experiment with it, But a factory reset with windows 10 bricked it with the TPM bug. It wants confirmation to clear or to not clear the Trusted platform module, but this request boots up before usb. so there is no way to answer the request. no buttons work, and no keyboard input works. =/ afaik its bricked for good.

[Partial] Hacking myford touch, were getting closer!!!

Ok Devs-
(ALSO sync owners, don't update your sync systems anymore by ford, we are getting close to unlock it, and they will put out updates to bork our hack).
I need some help please. I need to modify this POS sync. You can't do anything with it. I want to get navigation running or bluestacks to run android.
I got the official ford , usb reboot file I have attached it here. It has the signed files that we need.
I was able to tigger the install event with those files. And I believe this is our key to Jailbreak the system.
The best part is that you can run stacked commands on those install scripts. https://www.coalfire.com/The-Coalfire-Blog/October-2014-(1)/Reverse-Shells-and-Your-Car?feed=blogs
I have been struggling to get it it to execute, presumably, I don't know anything about win CE.
I have the win CE cmd.exe on my usb. Place it into the system, it recognizes and initiates upload. What the code below is trying to do is piggy back on the copy via stacked code to upload cmd.exe to the system then execute it. UNless there is another way to get a shell, once we get the shell, WE OWN THEM.
This is what my path is listed on my autoinstall.1st file -
Open1 = DelayedReboot.cab; cmd.exe \tmp\cmd.exe; \tmp\cmd.exe
the cab is required as it is signed by microsoft and bypasses the lock to load additional code.
Changing the semi colon to & makes it error out, so the semi colon is correct, just dunno if I have the paths right. Normally, it would be something like for linux /fs/usb0/etc...... but I am not sure about CE lists the usb device path...again I am win CE retarded. UNless there is a way to % to the paths, but I dunno much about win.
Sync, recognizes and executes with no errors. If I change my code a little, it will not work and say error.
SO what am I missing to get the cmd to run? Or is it already? I was expecting a shell to pop up?
If someone can point me in the right direction, or to point what file I can call to execute the onboard navigation, that would be awesome as well.
Even if we can't get a shell, I'd like to be able to execute a file, then I can run MIOpocket on this thing and ditch sync for android apps.
I have also attached the sync app developer guide link. With programming commands for apps.
https://developer.ford.com/uploads/DevConf%20-%20Track%205%20-%20Best%20Practices.pdf
Here is a link to the windows 7 automotive guide on how the system operates, kernel info, driver info, and stuff.
http://download.microsoft.com/download/0/A/1/0A1E07D6-7562-4566-AACF-E04DF4FF8879/A%20Technical%20Companion%20to%20Windows%20Embedded%20Automotive%207%20(final).pdf
UPDATE: 04/19/2015 -
While it is not a software hack, IT IS possible to unlock the navigation only portion of the MFT 8", if you have it without nav.
IF YOU DO THIS, YOUR CAR WARRANTY IS VOID. You've been warned.
It will cost a little money, but not set you back $1000 like nav tv and lockpick are charging. Maybe $100 or so.
Here is what you need to do, if you can't wait for us to unlock the bootloader.....
1 - Get a used APIM only part with the numbers DS7T in it. (aluminum only part with the fins, you DO NOT need the screen)
2 - Get the VIN# of the car it came out of and check the VIN to see if it was enabled with factory NAV. There are internet sites that will check the VIN for you. Must be a unit with NAV enabled.
http://researchmaniacs.com/VIN-Number-Lookup/WindowSticker/Ford.html
3. Install the APIM only to the back of your LCD.
4. The system will reboot and reset.
5. The system will them ask you to insert the NAV sd card, do that. (obviously, you have to buy a nav card from ebay as well, but those are $10)
6. Enjoy factory NAV for about $100
This is the only workaround for now. THE APIM is separate from the sync system and only interfaces with it. So, you will retain all your OEM VIN# locked stuff and it will survive reboots and updates. The nac actually just unlocks on that APIM portion, believe it or not. This method doesn't tie into the file system software, it merely accesses it.
Now.... if someone would be so kind as to just rip the NAND chip from one of those units and post it, so that we can just flash over our existing equipment, we can do this for FREE!!!!!!
Still working on the video bypass.... It would be nice if our Russian friends can start chiming in for that one please.....
DON"T FALL FOR THE EBAY GUY CHARGING $600 to $700 for this. Let's put him out of business.... Your help is needed.
PROPS TO rahrena8690 for the find.
WORKING FILE LINKS - FOR DEVELOPERS ONLY
Delayed Reboot project
https://mega.co.nz/#!m0BEWSrA!qrdgIRYTvccH52794ktdpRfrulI_pSdY3g-iiCyhaFs
awesome work
kthejoker20 said:
Ok Devs-
(ALSO sync owners, don't update your sync systems anymore by ford, we are getting close to unlock it, and they will put out updates to bork our hack).
I need some help please. I need to modify this POS sync. You can't do anything with it. I want to get navigation running or bluestacks to run android.
I got the official ford , usb reboot file I have attached it here. It has the signed files that we need.
I was able to tigger the install event with those files. And I believe this is our key to Jailbreak the system.
The best part is that you can run stacked commands on those install scripts. https://www.coalfire.com/The-Coalfire-Blog/October-2014-(1)/Reverse-Shells-and-Your-Car?feed=blogs
I have been struggling to get it it to execute, presumably, I don't know anything about win CE.
I have the win CE cmd.exe on my usb. Place it into the system, it recognizes and initiates upload. What the code below is trying to do is piggy back on the copy via stacked code to upload cmd.exe to the system then execute it. UNless there is another way to get a shell, once we get the shell, WE OWN THEM.
This is what my path is listed on my autoinstall.1st file -
Open1 = DelayedReboot.cab; cmd.exe \tmp\cmd.exe; \tmp\cmd.exe
the cab is required as it is signed by microsoft and bypasses the lock to load additional code.
Changing the semi colon to & makes it error out, so the semi colon is correct, just dunno if I have the paths right. Normally, it would be something like for linux /fs/usb0/etc...... but I am not sure about CE lists the usb device path...again I am win CE retarded. UNless there is a way to % to the paths, but I dunno much about win.
Sync, recognizes and executes with no errors. If I change my code a little, it will not work and say error.
SO what am I missing to get the cmd to run? Or is it already? I was expecting a shell to pop up?
If someone can point me in the right direction, or to point what file I can call to execute the onboard navigation, that would be awesome as well.
Even if we can't get a shell, I'd like to be able to execute a file, then I can run MIOpocket on this thing and ditch sync for android apps.
I have also attached the sync app developer guide link. With programming commands for apps.
https://developer.ford.com/uploads/DevConf%20-%20Track%205%20-%20Best%20Practices.pdf
Here is a link to the windows 7 automotive guide on how the system operates, kernel info, driver info, and stuff.
http://download.microsoft.com/download/0/A/1/0A1E07D6-7562-4566-AACF-E04DF4FF8879/A%20Technical%20Companion%20to%20Windows%20Embedded%20Automotive%207%20(final).pdf
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I have been wanting to get into this system since the day I got my truck. All ford has succeeded in doing is piss me off with "updates" that didn't amount to much. I would be happy if they would at least allow applink on the touch systems, as that would at least give us some options to add our own work.
I would love to help, but don't have much experience with "rooting", Windows CE, etc. But looking at what you have so far, I will offer some thoughts that came to mind:
It seems to me that you are working at the bootloader level, not the OS level. I may be way off here, but this could be why cmd won't work, as the OS is not loaded, so a traditional shell is not yet possible.
If you are indeed at the OS level, I wonder since you didn't get any errors when trying to launch cmd, if it was indeed actually running. I know on windows systems, if you manage to launch a process as "system", you typically can't interact with it (security issue). I don't know CE at all, but wonder if PsExec would work if it is launching your exe, but as system...
If it is executing your exe as system, perhaps a script or small app that writes some info about the system to a file on the usb drive would help. IE, have it list the folder structure for example.
I know we are not alone on people wanting to work on this. It looks to me that with Sync 3 dumping MSFT, we may be left in the dust with no further updates, although, this guy has found some signs that it might still get some useful updates:
http://www.reddit.com/r/Ford/comments/2rf2cc/ford_may_announce_updates_to_sync_gen2_myford/
Thanks
kthejoker20 said:
Ok Devs-
(ALSO sync owners, don't update your sync systems anymore by ford, we are getting close to unlock it, and they will put out updates to bork our hack).
I need some help please. I need to modify this POS sync. You can't do anything with it. I want to get navigation running or bluestacks to run android.
I got the official ford , usb reboot file I have attached it here. It has the signed files that we need.
I was able to tigger the install event with those files. And I believe this is our key to Jailbreak the system.
The best part is that you can run stacked commands on those install scripts. https://www.coalfire.com/The-Coalfire-Blog/October-2014-(1)/Reverse-Shells-and-Your-Car?feed=blogs
I have been struggling to get it it to execute, presumably, I don't know anything about win CE.
I have the win CE cmd.exe on my usb. Place it into the system, it recognizes and initiates upload. What the code below is trying to do is piggy back on the copy via stacked code to upload cmd.exe to the system then execute it. UNless there is another way to get a shell, once we get the shell, WE OWN THEM.
This is what my path is listed on my autoinstall.1st file -
Open1 = DelayedReboot.cab; cmd.exe \tmp\cmd.exe; \tmp\cmd.exe
the cab is required as it is signed by microsoft and bypasses the lock to load additional code.
Changing the semi colon to & makes it error out, so the semi colon is correct, just dunno if I have the paths right. Normally, it would be something like for linux /fs/usb0/etc...... but I am not sure about CE lists the usb device path...again I am win CE retarded. UNless there is a way to % to the paths, but I dunno much about win.
Sync, recognizes and executes with no errors. If I change my code a little, it will not work and say error.
SO what am I missing to get the cmd to run? Or is it already? I was expecting a shell to pop up?
If someone can point me in the right direction, or to point what file I can call to execute the onboard navigation, that would be awesome as well.
Even if we can't get a shell, I'd like to be able to execute a file, then I can run MIOpocket on this thing and ditch sync for android apps.
I have also attached the sync app developer guide link. With programming commands for apps.
https://developer.ford.com/uploads/DevConf%20-%20Track%205%20-%20Best%20Practices.pdf
Here is a link to the windows 7 automotive guide on how the system operates, kernel info, driver info, and stuff.
http://download.microsoft.com/download/0/A/1/0A1E07D6-7562-4566-AACF-E04DF4FF8879/A%20Technical%20Companion%20to%20Windows%20Embedded%20Automotive%207%20(final).pdf
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Thanks Pro. any new updates. Actually i just purchase Lincoln MKZ 2014, although i know it is hardware capable to run navigation since i get latitude and longitude, but unfortunately no navigation from the factory. i just play with My Lincoln Touch and on the sittings there is a tab for installing apps. so can we install and windows CE app?
Nothing yet.
Sync updates are rolled out every 6 months.
Rumor was that we are all getting blackberry upgrade from Microsoft.
Update is expected Feb 2015 or so.
We are sitting on the sidelines waiting to see what Ford will do, before we start porting over. There may be no need for our work if we get port link to the new system. I think Ford is on our side, as they don't want us open sourcing the system and have to deal with warranty claims.
kthejoker20 said:
Nothing yet.
Sync updates are rolled out every 6 months.
Rumor was that we are all getting blackberry upgrade from Microsoft.
Update is expected Feb 2015 or so.
We are sitting on the sidelines waiting to see what Ford will do, before we start porting over. There may be no need for our work if we get port link to the new system. I think Ford is on our side, as they don't want us open sourcing the system and have to deal with warranty claims.
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i don't think so. we will not get the QNX update. I think it is a different system with different architecture and requirements. but i hope they unlock the FMT or LMT so we can install any windows ce app.
Please don't reply to this thread with comments or requests.
I'd like to keep it clean to only development comments.
Based on what I'm reading around the page 26 mark (bootloaders section of the windows embedded 7 pdf), it sounds like we need to attempt to give the IPL boot arguments to get into update or development mode and from there we could have a chance of pushing our own files. I would think update mode looks for a signature but dev mode might let anything in.
Way ahead if you. The attached file has the signature. I was able to successfully run stacked commands by modifying the attached reboot file. Problem, the command doesn't stick on reboot.
kthejoker20 said:
Way ahead if you. The attached file has the signature. I was able to successfully run stacked commands by modifying the attached reboot file. Problem, the command doesn't stick on reboot.
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So you were able to launch a command prompt via the delayed reboot zip? I wonder if it would be possible to hack a sync update and then use this to push it.
I need a zip please... I can induce an update no command prompt yet
I can only run commands stacked, but I need to run a script on the sync side, but I can't figure out how to push the script to the sync
kthejoker20 said:
I need a zip please... I can induce an update no command prompt yet
I can only run commands stacked, but I need to run a script on the sync side, but I can't figure out how to push the script to the sync
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This the latest myford touch update Gen2-V3.7.11
http://www.mediafire.com/?79v3d0d8972sy44
Here is the Delayed Reboot zip
http://outofmytouch.com/assets/delayed_reboot.zip
So some very quick looking tonight and I found EA5T-14D546-ATD contains the master patch. Decompiling some of the shockwave files I have found some interesting code. These would most likely be the files to hack to change factory behavior. Getting them flashed to a vehicle might be a whole other issue though.
Edit: After more browsing I think we need to target a master patch for an older version of Sync. I was looking at the master patch for the most current so there are going to be less files patched. I will have a peek at those later.
For some reason, the coalfire site took down it's information regarding the reverse shell of the infotainment system.
Here is what I am talking about with the command on the delayed reboot file. I have conveniently located the stacked command image and attached it for your viewing pleasure.
If we can patch the files, this is how we push them to the chip. Otherwise, I may have to PHYSICALLY pull the system files through JTAG tap... sigh... not really wanting to do that though...
If we can push them, we would have to unlock the bootloader to bypass the sigs... This is where my brain is staring to hurt....
Obviously, these commands do not apply to what we are doing, as that is QNX. Plus, I don't want any noobs spunking their system with our fashizzle yet...until we test it.
Just a final thought, as a plan B, we could reverse shell with the USB exploit as well... just saying.. might be easier
An integer overflow might work as well, but I have never experiemented on an embedded chip. Stacked command invoking an integer overflow, might give us write access to the system.
Has any thought gone into rewriting one of the dll's included in the latest patch to include some sort of backdoor? It seems it'd be easy (maybe I'm missing something here) to just modify the latest patch's install files to install our new dll.
I haven't had time yet, but I am going to try to USB otg pull.... I'm sure I can probably at least disable the vss lock.
kthejoker20 said:
I haven't had time yet, but I am going to try to USB otg pull.... I'm sure I can probably at least disable the vss lock.
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When you tried running the cmd prompt with the stacked command approach did get any indications of the program running? I was thinking about adding some arguments to the end of the command to write a random file to the root of an available drive (like you said, who knows how the thumb drive is recognized).
Also, what type of processor does the system run on?
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duckboy81 said:
When you tried running the cmd prompt with the stacked command approach did get any indications of the program running? I was thinking about adding some arguments to the end of the command to write a random file to the root of an available drive (like you said, who knows how the thumb drive is recognized).
Also, what type of processor does the system run on?
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I think I answered one of the questions. From the PDF you posted "A Technical Companion..." it's a Freescale IMX35 processor.
freescale.com/webapp/sps/site/taxonomy.jsp?code=IMX35_FAMILY&cof=0&am=0
Looking forward to following the progress of this thread! I hope that you all will discover a new solution to our these outdated systems! Good luck guys, I am rooting for you!
duckboy81 said:
When you tried running the cmd prompt with the stacked command approach did get any indications of the program running? I was thinking about adding some arguments to the end of the command to write a random file to the root of an available drive (like you said, who knows how the thumb drive is recognized).
Also, what type of processor does the system run on?
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I think I answered one of the questions. From the PDF you posted "A Technical Companion..." it's a Freescale IMX35 processor.
freescale.com/webapp/sps/site/taxonomy.jsp?code=IMX35_FAMILY&cof=0&am=0
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Actually I am pretty sure the MyFord Touch processor is an I.MX51 acccording to a Ford PDF I found. Unfortunately I am new to posting here and it won't let me post links.
I work on the almost identical I.MX53 processor at work doing Linux kernel, u-boot boot loader, and Linux application software, so I might be able to help.
Most of the I.MX processors have built in ROM code that allows booting to a USB or Serial downloaded mode. This allows loading any software you want into any RAM address and then booting from it. Then you run completely out of RAM (like a live CD). Depending on how Ford setup the I.MX51 e-fuse settings, there may be an external pin that could be used to enter this serial downloaded mode. Freescale provides a tool called the MfgTool to load software using the serial download mode. Then you could load Linux, Android, or whatever. The e-fuses also allow you to lock out JTAG, serial downloaded mode, and enable boot time signature checking, but I am not sure if Ford used any of these to lock the system down.
Do we know where the processor is located in the fusion?

Ipython/Jupyter Notebook on Android

Hello All
I was able to successefuly install Ipython(jupyter) on my nexus(2013) and wanted to share the procedure with all that could be interested.
You could learn and read about Ipython[Jupyter] here
CAUTION:
> To the best of my knowledge this is the first tutorial of it's kind.
> I strongly recomend that you try this on a fresh rom. Use MultiROM for instance
> This was tried on Nexus 7(2013) with android 4.4.4. But I see no reason why it shouldn't work on lolipop 5.0 or on another android tablet. [You could try at your own risk and report your findings]
> Allow minimum 4Gb free space. I used rougthly 2.2 Gb, but i installed more than just ipython
> Hackers Keyboard is VERY HANDY if not NECESSARY
> I apologize for typos and gramar mistakes in advance
> Some of the following steps take time (a long time). Just make sure your tablet is connected to the charge and chose to keep the screan ON while it's on charge
> I am UNLOCKED and ROOTED. I can't tell whether it is required. If it is it would have to be with the prerequired apps. YOU WANNA VERIFY THAT before anything
> MOST IMPORTANTLY, DO THIS AT YOUR OWN RISK. I'm NOT RESPONSIBLE for any INCONVENIANCE whatsoever.
Procedure:
1-: Install GNURoot WheezyX . I am more confortable with debian, tryFedora or Gentoo ... If you know what you are doing.
2- Install GNURoot
3- Open GNURoot
4- Chose wheezyx (or fedora or gentoo ... depending on the distro you like) in the "Select Rootfs to Create " drop-down menu.
5- Click on 'Create New Rootfs' button
6- Chose wheezyx(or fedora or gentoo ... depending on the distro you chose) in the "Select Rootfs to Launch " drop-down menu
7- Check 'Lauch as Facke Root' box. This will give us root privilege
8- Click on 'Lauch Rootfs' button
At this point you shoud have 'Terminal Emulator" open up a window with '[email protected]:/# ' and a prompt ready to take instrucktions
Welcome to linux !!!
Now we need to install "python" and "pip", but before that we need to install 'build-essentials' which will make 'gcc' and all tools required to build a package available on our linux platform:
In the following: if you chose wheezy distro it's the same procedure; if you chose fedora distro replace apt-get with yum; if you chose gentoo you are on your own because I'm not familiar with it
Anyways I assume no responsability anyhow whatsoever.
9 - At the prompt type 'apt-get update' and press Enter
10 - Type 'apt-get upgrade' and press Enter'
11 - Type 'apt-get install build-essential' and press Enter' : This will install "build essential"
12- - Type 'apt-get install python' and press Enter' : This will install "python". I got the version 2.7.3 . You could find the version you installed by typing "python -V" and pressing Enter
13 - Type 'apt-get install python-pip' and press Enter' : This will install "pip", the python package manger
At this point we have python setup in the linux environement. Let's finally install ipython:
14-a Type 'pip install ipython' and press Enter if all you want is the ipython interpreter
15-a Type 'pip install ipython --upgrade' and press Enter to make sure you got the latest version
or
14-b Type 'pip install ipython[all] ' and press Enter if you want ipython and all the goodies like notebook
15-b Type 'pip install ipython [all]--upgrade' and press Enter to make sure you got the latest version
I do scientific work with ipython, so if you are on the same boat as me you could install scientific packages numpy,sympy,pandas,nose,.... with:
"apt-get install python-numpy python-scipy python-matplotlib ipython ipython-notebook python-pandas python-sympy python-nose" !!! This is a lot about 1.2Gb !!!
At this point everything is set up. "when the wine is drawn, we now just have to drink it"
16-a Type ' ipython ' and press Enter to run ipython interpreter
or
16-b Type ' ipython notebook' and press Enter to run ipython notwbook. If you get an error message say that ''no web browser could be found" ignore it. look for the server address (looks like http://localhost:8888)
17-b Enter that adress (http://localhost:8888 in my case) in Chrome (I had no problem with chrom so far, but you could try on your favorite web browser) press Enter. Et voila you should be in the ipython notebook tree
I have been here for a couple of years, and never got to share anything.
This is my first thread, and i hope it is the beging of a very long series of contributions
> I will upload screenshots later to better guide noobs (I was one onece)
> PM me if you like to donate. I would appreciate it
> Please support the GNURoot developpers, or ipython[Jupyter] developpers if you can. They are all doing a terrific work. (I'm in no way associated to them, but love and support their work)
> I'm not very good at making videos, but I welcome any initiative.
You now Know how to install ipython, I trus you could be very creative since you now got linux at your finger tip :laugh:
Help to use pandas + matplotlib: no $DISPLAY environment variable
First of all thank you for this pretty cool tutorial
i did it and everything else works after all that huge pip installation!
my problem is that i need to see the result of my codes which sometimes is to show me plots of my data using the library matplotlib.pyplot
when i do that i get the following error:
TclError: no display name and no $DISPLAY environment variable
i found someone with the same problem in another situation (not on android but something like trying to save the plots in a pdf) and the problem was solved doing the import like this:
import matplotlib
matplotlib.use('Agg')
import matplotlib.pyplot as plt
plt.plot([1,2,3])
plt.show()
By using matplotlib.use('Agg'), python knows to use the non-interactive back-end Agg instead of trying to display to the screen
this means that i don't have anymore the error but the plot won't be shown either
this happens not only when i do python file.py from command line but also when i run the same codes on jupyter notebook
so is there a way to execute file.py so they do what ever pandas want to do in this android environment (especially pop up windows with my plots when I execute the files)?
if there is no way how do i get rid of android to install some better OS on my tablet that can do all this kind of stuff?
thank you but all of this that you have done it's really not that useful if i cant see my plots
let me know!
paolotamag said:
First of all thank you for this pretty cool tutorial
i did it and everything else works after all that huge pip installation!
my problem is that i need to see the result of my codes which sometimes is to show me plots of my data using the library matplotlib.pyplot
when i do that i get the following error:
TclError: no display name and no $DISPLAY environment variable
i found someone with the same problem in another situation (not on android but something like trying to save the plots in a pdf) and the problem was solved doing the import like this:
import matplotlib
matplotlib.use('Agg')
import matplotlib.pyplot as plt
plt.plot([1,2,3])
plt.show()
By using matplotlib.use('Agg'), python knows to use the non-interactive back-end Agg instead of trying to display to the screen
this means that i don't have anymore the error but the plot won't be shown either
this happens not only when i do python file.py from command line but also when i run the same codes on jupyter notebook
so is there a way to execute file.py so they do what ever pandas want to do in this android environment (especially pop up windows with my plots when I execute the files)?
if there is no way how do i get rid of android to install some better OS on my tablet that can do all this kind of stuff?
thank you but all of this that you have done it's really not that useful if i cant see my plots
let me know!
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You should know that the linux running GNURoot doesn't have an X-session. You kinda need x11 installed on it to be able to have windows popping up and showing your plots. I remember trying apt-get install x11 without success on "Wheesy". Now, I know there is the "wheesy X" distro of GNURoot, but I don't know whether the X stands for X-session capability; I suggest you try that. (I no longer have my nexus7 to try, but it would be nice to see what happens).
I was able to go around this problem by working on the notebook. I could see my plots fine. I remember firefox beeing the best browser to work on the notebook.
Plots at least on jupyter and transfer files
hey so i found this : (i dont have authorization to post links normally)
stackoverflow .com / questions / 18353203 / using-python-and-matplotlib-on-android
where someone is stating is a big deal to have plotlib working on android
jupyter notebook is not displaying plots not even on firefox, it always give the "TclError: no display name and no $DISPLAY environment variable". It would be awesome if you'd give me a straight solution so i can see plots on jupyter! that would be more than enough to follow lessons in class
the temporary solution i found for now is to remote control my pc at home from the tablet to do all the coding but i cannot work without connection this way
i also found out about this website Wakari but they are saying now there isn't anymore free space for new subscription..
the best solution would be to have plots displaying on jupyter with your help
so the plan for now is to stick to let the pc at home do all the work and remote control it with the samsung remote pc app or to find a good website to log in from the tablet and write codes on browser
ill still use this command line of yours when ever i can thou, when ever there is nothing to display i guess.. but how do I find the folders so i can move to the desktop computer the .py files or the notebook files i create? i was expecting to find the files when i was connecting the tablet with usb wire.. is there anyway to transfer those files?
thank you
izzox said:
You should know that the linux running GNURoot doesn't have an X-session. You kinda need x11 installed on it to be able to have windows popping up and showing your plots. I remember trying apt-get install x11 without success on "Wheesy". Now, I know there is the "wheesy X" distro of GNURoot, but I don't know whether the X stands for X-session capability; I suggest you try that. (I no longer have my nexus7 to try, but it would be nice to see what happens).
I was able to go around this problem by working on the notebook. I could see my plots fine. I remember firefox beeing the best browser to work on the notebook.
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Use:
%matplotlibe inline
Instead of:
matplotlib.use('Agg')

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