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vogue and connecting to internet through bluetooth?

im new to any form of htc or palm(any windows based phone). my blackberry i could do a bunch of stuff without having internet through various simulators and whatnot. i was interested in getting the touch because i believed it had wifi, but know i realized that it doesnt(still havent purchased it.)
so my questions are
will the phone be able to receive a internet signal through bluetooth? as in i connect my phone to my macbook, i should receive a connection.
if i connect it to the computer via usb will i be able to download applications just like if i had the internet plan?? i really do not need the phone to be able to have internet at all times, just for downloading apps. i mainly use smartphones for there planning and scheduling abilities.
any help would be greatly appreciated.
just some side info, switching from sprint is not an option, nor is getting a information plan, as im a broke college kid.

Not sure about the bluetooth, it should be possible though.
As for the USB yes, infact if you are downloading applications do this over your regular internet if you don't have unlimited wireless internet from your provider. Applications can be quite big and you can hit your download limit very easily this way.

thanks a bunch, i went and checked the phone out today and i liked it a bunch. once again, and to not start another new thread thats probably answered somewhere, is it possible to send ringtones to the phone through usb?

hockeyizlife94 said:
thanks a bunch, i went and checked the phone out today and i liked it a bunch. once again, and to not start another new thread thats probably answered somewhere, is it possible to send ringtones to the phone through usb?
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Sure, you can do that and much more (including internet connection sharing) by USB or Blue Tooth, through ActiveSync...

great, oct 1st is the day...already bought a case and microsd card..

hockeyizlife94 said:
great, oct 1st is the day...already bought a case and microsd card..
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HTC announced the Touch 3g and Touch HD which look very similar to the Vogue. I'm not sure when these devices will be released but they have the features you seem to be looking for (WiFi). If you wait a little bit, you may, or may not be happier with the 3g or HD.
Just some information in case you never heard of these devices yet.
http://www.htc.com/www/default.aspx
EDIT: I am not sure about connecting a vogue to a mac, as it requires activesync to connect which is a Microsoft product. Most newer macs allow you to run windows xp, so it should be no problem. Also, when the phone is connected via USB, it will not use your regular DSL/Cable connection to access the internet. You will need to download the applications on your computer first, then transfer to the phone via activesync.

There's also the Mogul which is out now that has built in wifi. Prices are low and should be dropping as newer phones come out. Good for a broke college student.

nosco said:
HTC announced the Touch 3g and Touch HD which look very similar to the Vogue. I'm not sure when these devices will be released but they have the features you seem to be looking for (WiFi). If you wait a little bit, you may, or may not be happier with the 3g or HD.
Just some information in case you never heard of these devices yet.
http://www.htc.com/www/default.aspx
EDIT: I am not sure about connecting a vogue to a mac, as it requires activesync to connect which is a Microsoft product. Most newer macs allow you to run windows xp, so it should be no problem. Also, when the phone is connected via USB, it will not use your regular DSL/Cable connection to access the internet. You will need to download the applications on your computer first, then transfer to the phone via activesync.
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yea i saw those, im just thinking they are gunna be out of my price range because they will be brand new, kinda need the phone asap because my blackberry gave up on life and my back up isnt smart, i need smartphone lol

nosco said:
Also, when the phone is connected via USB, it will not use your regular DSL/Cable connection to access the internet. You will need to download the applications on your computer first, then transfer to the phone via activesync.
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Actually the phone can connect to the Internet via desktop DSL/Cable when they are USB linked.... but you'd never do that just to get apps on you phone. It's really only useful for syncing email to your phone when you don't have a data plan for the the phone.

Sprint HTC Touch internet thru bluetooth
So has anyone been able to figure out how to connect to the internet thru bluetooth to your PC/MAC? For example: If you are in an area that doesn't have cell coverage at all (Sprint or roaming) if you have an internet connection on your PC/MAC (DSL, Cable, etc.) can you connect to the computer thru bluetooth and access the internet on the Touch? It would be great for VOIP like Skype(out).
So I am not asking how to connect your computer to the internet thru your phone. Just the opposite, actually. Specifically asking for MAC.

j.c.briggs said:
So has anyone been able to figure out how to connect to the internet thru bluetooth to your PC/MAC? For example: If you are in an area that doesn't have cell coverage at all (Sprint or roaming) if you have an internet connection on your PC/MAC (DSL, Cable, etc.) can you connect to the computer thru bluetooth and access the internet on the Touch? It would be great for VOIP like Skype(out).
So I am not asking how to connect your computer to the internet thru your phone. Just the opposite, actually. Specifically asking for MAC.
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Just have to enable data connections in Activesync or WMDC

denasqu said:
Just have to enable data connections in Activesync or WMDC
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i think its more then that. i found a link about connecting it but i cant find it now...you would have to go into the computers bt settings and change some stuff, and the phones..
EDIT:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=InternetOverBluetoothNetwork

hockeyizlife94 said:
i think its more then that. i found a link about connecting it but i cant find it now...you would have to go into the computers bt settings and change some stuff, and the phones..
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http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=InternetOverBluetoothNetwork
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Yeah, I read too quickly and missed the BT requirement.

I tether using bluetooth with my mac book, you can use Internet connection sharing or pda net, and use the btpan feature.

Internet through USB from PC

Hi All,
I have searched the forums but can't find anything on my specific issue. I used to have an XDA Orbit and if I connected it via USB I could use my PC's internet connection. Is there anyway I can do this with my shiny new G1. The reason I’m asking is I have bugger all reception at work and the Wi-Fi is located in another building, which is too far away.
Please help!

Hi,
My above post has been moved here but im not trying to connect my pc to the internet using my phone, im trying to conect my phone to the internet through my PC.
As far as I can see this post does not apply to my question, can somebody please help? I can't be the only one this applies to!

If the computer has wifi and is connected to the internet through wired network it can be done...
Is this your case?

My work PC doesn't have Wi-Fi. My home PC does though.
All I want is for my G1 to be able to use my computers internet conection via USB. My old XDA Orbit used to be able to do it via active sync.
i.e I can surf the web on my phone using USB connection as the access point
Any ideas?

As far as I know this probably will not work, but you can try reversing the port forward technique with ADB

ianmason said:
My work PC doesn't have Wi-Fi. My home PC does though.
All I want is for my G1 to be able to use my computers internet conection via USB. My old XDA Orbit used to be able to do it via active sync.
i.e I can surf the web on my phone using USB connection as the access point
Any ideas?
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Why would you want to surf the web through the phone when you have a PC on the other end of that wire which does the same thing, but better?

LPChris said:
Why would you want to surf the web through the phone when you have a PC on the other end of that wire which does the same thing, but better?
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Several reasons that i can think of
1? Bad reception indoors, so i can waste time at work by downloading useless apps on my G1, and everyone thinks im working.
2? My cell provider charges me for internet bandwith usage (per kb/mb), im cheap and don't wanna pay them.
3? I'm a massochist, and enjoy using the G1's browser more than firefox(bleh!)
4? I'm running out of reasons now
All this hypothetically could be hypothetical.
Yup, im bored at work

Exactly, item 1 sums it up. I have no reception at work so if I have a data connection I can get email notifications and test out my apps. I can't believe no one else is missing this feature. On my xda I had it set up to sync with my various email accounts etc. It wouldn,t be a problem if tmobile's reception wasn't so poor!

I would assume it is possible but would have to forward ports from your computer to the phone, similar to how the thetherbot app forwards ports from the phone to the computer. But I may be wrong that could be a one way street for data.

Wow...you are a masochist As much as I like the browser on the g1 compared to other phones..I just don't see why you'd always want to use it instead of a PC

I don't want to surf the web on the G1 when right infront of me I have a PC. I simply want it to have a reliable data connection when I'm at work. As I have no signal from t bloody mobile and no wifi!
Nobody made a sync application similar to MS ActiveSync?

Why would we make something that is already built in?

ohh forget it. Your obviously not reading what i've written.

ianmason said:
ohh forget it. Your obviously not reading what i've written.
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No you obviously haven't paid attention.
Why would we create something to sync our phone to our computer when it does it all OTA. On top of this how did you expect it to sync our calendar and such when it is all proprietary?
What exactly do you want "sync'd"?
And once again... I am sure you could figure it out if you read up on adb forward commands.

ianmason said:
Hi All,
I have searched the forums but can't find anything on my specific issue. I used to have an XDA Orbit and if I connected it via USB I could use my PC's internet connection. Is there anyway I can do this with my shiny new G1. The reason I’m asking is I have bugger all reception at work and the Wi-Fi is located in another building, which is too far away.
Please help!
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As my first post says I have no reception at work at all, this means I go all day without being able to sync my various email accounts etc. I would also like to be able to demo what our device can do to my collegues. unfortunately i don't understand adb or indeed know what it stands for and as I have no programming knowledge i thought I would speak with people that do.
I will try to figure it out for myself and post my findings here. I'm sure I'm not the only one who thinks it would be useful.

I'm also looking for some solution to use my Laptop's internet connection on my G1 via USB. The reason for this is I have a very weak neighbors wifi and only my Laptop can connect to it. I am writing android apps that need to connect to the internet.

cmavr8 said:
If the computer has wifi and is connected to the internet through wired network it can be done...
Is this your case?
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How can you use the computers wifi to send internet to the g1... while the computer has a wired connection..... please let me know.... I has windows vista..... I would luv to know this... thank you.... please send the info to [email protected]... thank you!!!

dotdevil said:
How can you use the computers wifi to send internet to the g1... while the computer has a wired connection..... please let me know.... I has windows vista..... I would luv to know this... thank you.... please send the info to [email protected]... thank you!!!
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you could set up an adhoc connection on the computer and connect to it on the g1 then bridge the networks

unfortunately my work PC does not have a Wi-Fi card so this wouldn't work. damn it whys it so complicated!?! :-(

You could just buy a router.

Can't tether!

Just that. Wifi or USB tether doesn't function. The phone says it's connected, but the laptop says no network connection.
There any replacement apps that might help? I flashed the latest radio and that fixed a GPS problem I was having, but didn't fix the tether. Suggestions?

Its not clear, were you able to tether before, and now you've lost that function. Or is this the first time you've tried it?
If its the first time, ATT has blocked this function with the intent that you pay for the extra tethering fee.
But a simple reg edit works around this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=569953
Also, there is a free WiFi sharing app on this site, if you do a search. There are also paid apps, like Walking Hotspot, that also work.
Keep in mind, tethering without the tethering plan is a violation of ATT's terms and conditions. They reserve the right to levy big per kb fees or cancel your service.
That said, I've done it from time to time while on business trips (no excessive data usage), and its never been a problem.

I'm an idiot, I forgot to update my sig. I'm not running stock anymore, sorry. I actually forgot which rom I switched to, but it was one of the lighter ones. had wifi router, office, and everything basic on there though. What option do I have if I don't remember which ROM I used?

The custom ROMs I've used (Energy, simplicity) support tethering by default without any modification or settings to change. Or the WiFi router will basically do the same thing.
I still don't know if you have been able to tether before, and suddenly can't; or this is you first time attempting it.
If its something you've been able to do before, some computers can be finicky (for no very ovious reason) with the Internet Sharing function. Try a different USB port, or to reboot your system. Also, you need to have Active Sync installed on your computer (or Windows Mobile Device Center, in the case of Vista or Windows 7). This was a big "duh" moment for me one time. I was trying to get tethering up on my work laptop. Then I realized that I had never installed Active Sync since my work gave me a new laptop.
Tether/Internet Sharing via Bluetooth should also work, if you computer has Bluetooth.

I apologize again. With this ROM I've never been able to tether, and I just reinstalled windows and installed activesync. I can do activesync and file transfers and everything else. What else can I do? Maybe it's a driver issue between windows and the phone? I'unno.

This is what happens.
lordxiagan said:
Just that. Wifi or USB tether doesn't function. The phone says it's connected, but the laptop says no network connection.
There any replacement apps that might help? I flashed the latest radio and that fixed a GPS problem I was having, but didn't fix the tether. Suggestions?
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Ok, if you connect to the internet from the phone, and once connected you then hooked it in the PC, then you wont be able to connect tether. So turn off any phone internet connection, and then hooked it up to the PC , then connect.

I don't think he is talking about being connected to the internet. When you start Internet Sharing, it will say on the phone whether its connected to the PC over USB, or not. That is what I think the OP is talking about.

just update your rom... go to one of the energy roms that has wifi sharing built in and you'll be ready to go.
Probably the easiest thing you can do to get this working.

What I'm trying to....
redpoint73 said:
I don't think he is talking about being connected to the internet. When you start Internet Sharing, it will say on the phone whether its connected to the PC over USB, or not. That is what I think the OP is talking about.
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What I'm trying to explain is that, if you have data running in your cell before connecting IS, and connect it to the PC it wont tether, you need to first end Data Connection, connect IS and then HOOK THE USB to the PC.

[Q] Tether instead of wifi???

Just wondering if there is a way to tether to a computer with a wired connection to get Internet connection that way, instead of using wifi??? There is lots of apps and stuff that need to connect to the internet to download, but I dont have the wifi's at home.
And if not, is it a hardware limitation, or software???
Handset in question is an Acer Liquid E

I've seen others ask this question & not get an answer that they wanted.
I'm not sure if its hardware, software or just lack of developer interest to create an app to do it.
The simple fact of the matter is that you can pick up a cheap router for $20 that'll solve the issue for you. It's not the solution you want, but it might be the only one available to you.
Heres another thread, it might have suggestions (or updates) that will be useful for you:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=554852

you are right that is definately not the answer that Im looking for, as i have a good wireless router, but i live with a Internet Nazi that doesn't want to have wireless in the household.
But thanks for the link, I'll definitely check it out : )

monoxide.tryst said:
you are right that is definately not the answer that Im looking for, as i have a good wireless router, but i live with a Internet Nazi that doesn't want to have wireless in the household.
But thanks for the link, I'll definitely check it out : )
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The best I can recommend is having a wireless card in your laptop and creating a ad-hoc network, but if I am not mistaken, the ad-hoc network is not supported on a android device.
You could always do a quick search for some software on the internet that support it, but good luck with that.
You could always convince the internet nazi to use mac address filtering on the router to ensure that only the devices you use are allowed to connect.

Don't know anything about your phone, but both WM and Android phones gladly hooks up to a comp using USB-wire (which is faster than any wireless).
WM6.5 have a program icon called Internet sharing something.
while Android got a pay/trial app called Easy Tether that for the same job.
Be aware that some provider do not allow hooking-up a computer on some cellphone plans, call your provider and ask them.
Using both a X10 Mini(Android) and a M1i Aspen(WM6.5) connected by wire both for file transfer peer2peer and Internet access.
Also there are Bluetooth and a possibility to remove the memory card from the phone and copy files to it in a card reader on a computer.

PDAnet
The only thing I can think of is an app called PDANet on the market, you do need internet to download it on your computer, but if it's a laptop, just take it to a wifi hotspot, like Starbucks or something and download the computer app, then tether all you want

PDAnet
No need to go to a wifi hotspot with the laptop to get the computer drivers for pdanet. You can do it right from the phone, it will download to your sdcard then all you do is mount the sdcard to the comp via usb and open the .exe file, load the drivers and start tethering. Only thing with PDAnet is you cant access secure websites with the free version. But it is an AWESOME app non the less.

Reverse USB tethering on motorola atrix on windows XP

Hey guys just curious if there is a solution to reverse tether via usb on the motorola atrix. I've searched every post imaginable but nothing works for the Atrix. Come on XDA turn water in wine for me
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I was wondering how to tether via usb normally, I can't seem to find an option anywhere on my AT&T branded Atrix

It should be in your list of apps... there should just be an app called "Tethering" to preform your task. It's super simple to use as well just click of the "USB Tethering" option and your done but for further detail on tethering try just going in google and typing USB tethering on windows XP.
Sorry I would post a link to a good site but I'm a newbie and I need to do 8 posts before I can post links to external websites.
If you don't have the APP let me know and I'll find a way to get it to you.
But someone please help me out with my problem...
Thanks,
Ghettosean

ahh I see, unfortunately I don't have it and I assume it's because I'm running gingerblur without bloatware.. Would be great if you could somehow get it too me and in relation to your problem I don't think it would be easily possible unless you used wireless. Ad-hoc network with internet connection sharing.
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ghettosean said:
It should be in your list of apps... there should just be an app called "Tethering" to preform your task. It's super simple to use as well just click of the "USB Tethering" option and your done but for further detail on tethering try just going in google and typing USB tethering on windows XP.
Sorry I would post a link to a good site but I'm a newbie and I need to do 8 posts before I can post links to external websites.
If you don't have the APP let me know and I'll find a way to get it to you.
But someone please help me out with my problem...
Thanks,
Ghettosean
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What? did I get ripped off? I haven't seen an app for tether that came with my phone. If that is true, then all the time the DEV's put into hacking to get it working was for not? use the search and look for tethering. the answer is close to what you said, but does not involve an "app". It is a setting within the wireless network settings, but selecting it alone does not get you tethering.

Ahh I have seen wireless tethering (but use barnacle instead) I was curious about USB tethering though
Sent from my MB860 in Australia

If any newbies want this app just email me and I will send it as for the people clogging my post I will send it by the end of the day... I just want help with my problem now and I know it wont be easy unless its wifi but it can be done with other phones on xp... im going to try and get it working effortlessly in linux this weekend... help xda!!!
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Maybe I am not understanding what your question. tethering is usually referring to being able to use the phone as an access point so you can surf the web from your computer using the phone as a "modem". what are you wanting to do with reverse tethering? If you are wanting to do what i described, go into the development threads and look for ARoot or gladroot. also I think most of the roms have this built in now also.

pdanet allows tethering through usb

mrphil101 said:
Maybe I am not understanding what your question. tethering is usually referring to being able to use the phone as an access point so you can surf the web from your computer using the phone as a "modem". what are you wanting to do with reverse tethering? If you are wanting to do what i described, go into the development threads and look for ARoot or gladroot. also I think most of the roms have this built in now also.
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By reverse tethering I mean the opposite of what you have described and that is to use the internet provided on the computer onto your phone. This can be done and I will do it with red hat linux I'm positive that I can get this to work but to get this to work on windows XP is a different challenge with the Atrix in particular.
If anyone has any information please help a brother out!

ghettosean said:
By reverse tethering I mean the opposite of what you have described and that is to use the internet provided on the computer onto your phone. This can be done and I will do it with red hat linux I'm positive that I can get this to work but to get this to work on windows XP is a different challenge with the Atrix in particular.
If anyone has any information please help a brother out!
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I don't know about USB tethering, but if your computer has a wireless adapter you could use it to create an ad hoc network to which your phone could connect. You could then use ICS (Internet Connection Sharing) in Windows to bridge your internet connection to your wireless one. That way your Atrix could use your computer's interntet connection wirelessly!

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I don't know about USB tethering, but if your computer has a wireless adapter you could use it to create an ad hoc network to which your phone could connect. You could then use ICS (Internet Connection Sharing) in Windows to bridge your internet connection to your wireless one. That way your Atrix could use your computer's interntet connection wirelessly!
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True but as far as reverse usb tether. I don't know about android but with winmo just by having the phone synced would allow for this. Have you tried the medi sync or any of the other option when you connect via usb to see if they allow for this?
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ghettosean
if what you want is to find workaround of WiFi problems on unlocked Atrix, you'd better look for AT&T SIM (even nonworking, just to report the phone it's operator ID - there are lot at eBay). Currently this is the best solution. Also, member crnkoj is developing the solution HERE, but it is very complicated for now.
Old trusted WinMo born when WiFi on phone was just a miracle, so it was able to get internet through USB, but Android never dreamed there is an AT&T whith its stupid intervention in phone firmware.

Thanks for all the replies... I've found a solution and I can actually reverse tether over USB two different ways and I will share my findings in a week... I have one last snag. Full internet access but I can't download apps from the market even though I took down my firewall on windows... Give me one more week but if anyone has a solution to that new problem that doesn't include opening port 5228 let me know. Cheers!!!
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Solution
Hey all... I'm still having no luck downloading from the market or using other internet apps but browsing on the web seems to be fine with reverse usb tethering. here's what I have done:
1. I connect to my laptop via usb and I start up regular usb tethering (as if I'm going to give internet to my computer from my phone)
2. When I complete step 1 on the windows computer I see a new network icon pop up representing my atrix as an RNDIS networking device
3. From here in windows I right click on the internet connection that is providing the internet to the laptop or computer and select properties from here I click on the advanced tab and check the box that allows "internet connection sharing" there is also a dropdown to pick which networking device you want to share with I select the networking device that represents the atrix and click ok.
4. From here I restart my internet connection and then I right click on the internet connection for the atrix and select properties. On the general tab I select internet protocol (TCP/IP) and click the properties button and change my ip address manually and pick --> 192.168.2.1 with a subnet mask of 255.255.255.0 then click ok and ok again
5. From here I start adb shell (or you can use terminal on your phone if you wish) and type the following
su (to go into root or super user mode)
ifconfig usb0 192.168.2.2 netmask 255.255.255.0 up
route add default gw 192.168.2.1 dev usb0
setprop net.usb0.dns1 192.168.2.1
setprop net.dns1 192.168.2.1
iptables -F
iptables -F -t nat
setprop net.dns1 8.8.8.8
setprop "net.gprs.http-proxy" ""
after this ping www.yahoo.ca to be sure everything is working properly and if you get a response your good to go.
I'm assuming that everyone who is using these instructions has android sdk installed and there windows machine recognises the adb drivers for there phone as i'm convinced this will work with any android phone not just the atrix and I will test to confirm.
I wrote up these instructions pretty quick and I'll probably shorten them up as there is a few unessesary parts in the script for adb shell but everything will work and you should be able to but this will only allow you to use the internet and browse the internet with your phone this will not allow the market and other internet apps to work if anyone finds a solution to this it would be much appreciated.
Cheers all and ANDROID RULES!!!
Ghettosean

On the Atrix there is no USB tethering built in!

Chubby_Skunk said:
On the Atrix there is no USB tethering built in!
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Should you have taken some time to read the thread, what you actually wrote wouldn't be an epic fail.

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Should you have taken some time to read the thread, what you actually wrote wouldn't be an epic fail.
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lol
reading comprehension is not this forums users' strong suit
good work too btw ghettosean, i know youve been working on this for some time as i saw op

There's a free software for windows call connectify that can convert ur xp into a wireless station...
Sent from my MB860

Ok since I have done this myself AND IT WORKED!!! What I have done is not a fail.... My atrix did come with tethering software and the app itself is called "Tethering" so sorry for those who do not have it but I will post another message today attaching the APK for this and how to install it. I'm at work and can't do this right now.
Why do people start bashing others before taking the time to ask for help?!?
I've attached the APK to this post you ungrateful whinny blood sucking... )@#$(@[email protected]*)[email protected]*)($*)@($*!!!
YOUR WELCOME BY THE WAY TO THE UNGRATEFUL ONES WHO WILL BENIFIT FROM THIS!
Anyone who has contributed to this post in a positive way a big thank you to them.