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I'm very confused now. I have find out that devs have had really hard time trying to overclock s5360. I have been told that only Merruk 2.5 (OC 1.2Ghz) kernel is really overclocked and others just look like overclocked but they really are locked to 832Mhz. Is it really so? Is Maroc-OS's previously beta file (900Mhz) just placebo?
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Here is Maroc-OS's answer to question: "Is the OC real or not?"
Background:
SGY has BCM21553 CPU which is running at 832Mhz with two frequencies (312Mhz, 832Mhz) as default. However there are some devices which are running at 1Ghz by default with the same CPU (BCM21553). That is why Maroc-OS wanted to OC his kernel.
First of all irfanbagus made a patch for s5360 to open additional freqs. Then Maroc-OS made a merruk beta file based on that patch. With that beta file you can "OC" stock and Savie #73 kernel to 900Mhz. However Maroc-OS and other devs found out that the beta file was not real OC because you can't OC BCM21553 with irfanbagus' patch. You can only add lower than 832Mhz freqs with that patch. Then Marok-OS decied to make new kernel.
Marok-OS built Merruk 2.0 which is "OC" to 1Ghz but again he found out that is was not real OC. Then he decied to try OC by different way. After much development Maroc-OS realesed first really overclocked MerrukTechnology Developer Edition V.2.5 kernel. However some people started to argue that even Merruk V2.5 kernel is not real OC. You can read the whole conversation about that starting from here to here. Maroc-OS made pretty clear that OC is working.
Then everybody noticed that AnTuTu or any other bechmark scores didn't raise up with OC (like they should). Some tester said that they can feel to faster performance and some people say that they didn't. Here Maroc-OS say that the OC doesn't work correctly but I guess that means that the kernel is not stable yet.
After same serious work Maroc-OS realesed updates to his V2.5 kernel and some people report better AnTuTu scores. Still there were some devs who said that OC is not working. Maroc-OS's final aswer to that argue is here.
That answer is what I find interesting. Maroc-OS said that the OC is semi working. When the freq is changed to over 832Mhz (1.248Ghz for example) the CPU tries to change it back to 832Mhz. Maroc-OS made the kernel to change freq back to over 832Mhz as quickly as possible. That means:
Maroc-OS said:
when the governor try always to swich to it randomly and back to 832 if he did it 20 times in a sec we got it working but not fully working one )
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So the freq is jumping between OC freq and 832Mhz. That means that OC is semi working. Maroc-OS wanted to make it fully working but never got that far because he just left from here xda.
However people didn't stop talk about is OC real or not. Here is people's opinion (link, link, link) You can read more starting from here to here. Then continue reading from here to here. Then you can check from here to here. Lastly you should check from here to here
This is the last post where Maroc-OS say something about OC.
Then let's talk little bit about other OC kernel. First one after Merruk kernel was Maroc-OS team member Mohamed.Anwar with eXtreme kernel (OC at 1Ghz). This is what Mohamed.Anwar said when Maroc-OS left. After all it turns out that Mohamed.Anwar used irfanbagus's patch to OC like Maroc-OS first did with merruk beta file. That means that eXtreme kernel is not real OC kernel.
Then there were Eve's kernel. The dev itself say that he/she doesn't know if the OC is working or not. He/she used some sources from Merruk kernels but I don't know is it really working or not. Many people say that is not real OC. Then there are Jarvis kernel and AXIOM kernel but they are based on Eve's kernel. Again, many people say that they are not real OC.
So you have to make your own conclusion about is the OC real or not!
Ps. The latest and most stable Merruk V2.5 #206 can be found from here and here but the latest modules are here.
most likely any oc is a placebo in 5360 - when I tested it I noticed no difference in performance
The phone may report its overclocked but most likely it isnt
marcussmith2626 said:
most likely any oc is a placebo in 5360 - when I tested it I noticed no difference in performance
The phone may report its overclocked but most likely it isnt
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What about Jarvis and BlackHeart Kernels?
Sameer N. Soni said:
What about Jarvis and BlackHeart Kernels?
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same
marcussmith2626 said:
same
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But I can feel the changes when I change the frequencies!
Sameer N. Soni said:
But I can feel the changes when I change the frequencies!
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placebo - it doesnt go above 832mhz
marcussmith2626 said:
placebo - it doesnt go above 832mhz
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But my SGY really gets faster after changing freqs
Sameer N. Soni said:
What about Jarvis and BlackHeart Kernels?
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I have tested all in cpu-z and some other widgets and app say "1248Mhz" but i don't know if is the real freq. of clock.
marcussmith2626 said:
most likely any oc is a placebo in 5360 - when I tested it I noticed no difference in performance
The phone may report its overclocked but most likely it isnt
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Can you tell me why they (OC) are placebo? Does it have something to with that bcm21553 has some lock code at 832Mhz? But why there are phone with same CPU at 1Ghz? If those phones are 1Ghz why s5360 cannot be oc atleast 1Ghz?
T968 : CPU: 32bit Broadcom
BCM21553, 1GHz
Alcatel OT979 3G WCDMA : CPU:
32bit Broadcom BCM21553, 1GHz
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Axiom 1.0 (1.2Ghz): Sources are from eve and people say it's not working --> Not working?
Eve.121_4 (1.2Ghz): Developer itself says "don't know its working or not" and people say it's not working --> Not working? (Any proofs bogoMIPS or FLOPS?)
Jarvis v2.2 #29 (1.2Ghz): People say it's not working --> Not working? (Any proofs bogoMIPS or FLOPS?)
Merruk 2.5 (1.2Ghz): Some people say that it is the only one working and some say it's not working --> Works? (Any proofs bogoMIPS or FLOPS?)
MerrukTechnology 2.0 PRE-FINAL (1024Mhz): I don't know
Merruk beta (OVERCLOCK SGY.zip) (900Mhz): People say it's not working but bogoMIPS shows 900.05 (tested myself) --> Works?
Vohukain said:
Can you tell me why they (OC) are placebo? Does it have something to with that bcm21553 has some lock code at 832Mhz? But why there are phone with same CPU at 1Ghz? If those phones are 1Ghz why s5360 cannot be oc atleast 1Ghz?
T968 : CPU: 32bit Broadcom
BCM21553, 1GHz
Alcatel OT979 3G WCDMA : CPU:
32bit Broadcom BCM21553, 1GHz
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Because bcm_tweaks (or some file like this) lock the processor to 832
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But overclocking only makes your phone dying LOL
Not nessessary
GalKill said:
But overclocking only makes your phone dying LOL
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You are wrong. OC may decrease your phones lifetime but manufacturers never push their products to their limits. There is always possibility to OC little bit but not too much. Too much OC will harm your phone. But we can do always something. Proof of that with bcm21553 is that there are phones with frequency 1Ghz by default.
Vohukain said:
You are wrong. OC may decrease your phones lifetime but manufacturers never push their products to their limits. There is always possibility to OC little bit but not too much. Too much OC will harm your phone. But we can do always something. Proof of that with bcm21553 is that there are phones with frequency 1Ghz by default.
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But it is the best when your phone is operated with normal setting. Remmember, our phone is low end phone, everything is below average .
GalKill said:
But it is the best when your phone is operated with normal setting. Remmember, our phone is low end phone, everything is below average .
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So should'nt I use custom Governors or I/O Schedulers?
Proof it!
I have now read to whole development thead of merruk kernel. I figured out that there are only couple guys saying that oc is not working. Maroc-os and others never said that is not working. I'm not dev but I figured out that there was some problems with bcm21533 lock code (HW something) but I guess that mMroc-os made it (semi) working. So why people are saying that it's not working. Where are yours proof?
Vohukain said:
Can you tell me why they (OC) are placebo? Does it have something to with that bcm21553 has some lock code at 832Mhz? But why there are phone with same CPU at 1Ghz? If those phones are 1Ghz why s5360 cannot be oc atleast 1Ghz?
T968 : CPU: 32bit Broadcom
BCM21553, 1GHz
Alcatel OT979 3G WCDMA : CPU:
32bit Broadcom BCM21553, 1GHz
Edit:
Axiom 1.0 (1.2Ghz): Sources are from eve and people say it's not working --> Not working?
Eve.121_4 (1.2Ghz): Developer itself says "don't know its working or not" and people say it's not working --> Not working? (Any proofs bogoMIPS or FLOPS?)
Jarvis v2.2 #29 (1.2Ghz): People say it's not working --> Not working? (Any proofs bogoMIPS or FLOPS?)
Merruk 2.5 (1.2Ghz): Some people say that it is the only one working and some say it's not working --> Works? (Any proofs bogoMIPS or FLOPS?)
MerrukTechnology 2.0 PRE-FINAL (1024Mhz): I don't know
Merruk beta (OVERCLOCK SGY.zip) (900Mhz): People say it's not working but bogoMIPS shows 900.05 (tested myself) --> Works?
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someone took into account what I said? Would not there a way to check the cpu clock? I tested the kernel merruk and Jarvis also both when applied 1248Mhz literally accelerate small GY.
Not so dev but if I remember well the only thing that prevents the oc Gy would not that file apuclock something? (remember that time does not move with the gy sources).
Try this.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2384985
overclock to 1.2GHZ.
Simple way to check is first be at normal 832MHz and do a benchmark.
Then switch OC kernel and set OC at max. Do another benchmark.
DO NOT BLAME ME FOR ANYTHING BAD HAPPENED TO YOUR PHONE. DO AT YOUR OWN RISK.
Compare both benchmark scores.
That will sort out the thing whether OC is real boost or just a placebo.
I would like to open this thead again now because Maroc-os is back! I have tested all these oc kernels and they are good, no doubt about that. Thanks to the devs! I'm just wondering that are they really overclocked over 832Mhz ? I mean they are great but is the faster performance effect due overclocked frequencies (over 832Mhz) or something else? It woudl be really nice if Maroc-os and other great devs would say something about it.
Here is the list of oc kernels (what I know):
- Axiom 1.0 (1.2Ghz)
- Eve.121_4 (1.2Ghz)
- Jarvis v2.2 #29 (1.2Ghz)
- Merruk 2.5 (1.2Ghz), MerrukTechnology 2.0 PRE-FINAL (1024Mhz), Merruk beta (OVERCLOCK SGY.zip) (900Mhz)
- eXtreme Kernel (1.0Ghz)
Ps. You can also "overclock" stock kernel and Savie #73 kernel to 900Mhz with merruk beta file. (check this post)
New poll added!
Hi! I added new poll and edited the first post. Please read whole OC story from the first post and vote! Thanks!
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Let the games begin!
Yes, it's already out since a week or so.
I'm working on my kernel since then.
@xiaolongzi Do you have experience with tweaking MTK kernels? Are you planning on your own custom kernel?
tbalden said:
Yes, it's already out since a week or so.
I'm working on my kernel since then.
@xiaolongzi Do you have experience with tweaking MTK kernels? Are you planning on your own custom kernel?
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this is my first time tweaking my own custom kernel。 I'm looking for some guide now！
xiaolongzi said:
this is my first time tweaking my own custom kernel。 I'm looking for some guide now！
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i've started to look at the sources, MTK has a strange method of adding their part to a kernel tree Instead of using the normal parts of the directory structure, I found most drivers in /drivers/misc/mediatek/
Even the Machine part with its MTK specific frequency and voltage setting is there. The part where voltage and freqs are tweaked is not easy to follow but that's where freq tweaking could be done... https://github.com/tbalden/android_...ers/misc/mediatek/mach/mt6795/mt_cpufreq_64.c
So i've meaning to ask, have anyone tried to overclock the MXP? I mean like overclock past thought 1200MHz and so on?
and the overheating issue is a b*tch being to me when i try to overclock it with "Kernel Adiutor",of course I couldn't past through the 1200MHz limitation but hey, it was an interesting experiment.
HerySean said:
So i've meaning to ask, have anyone tried to overclock the MXP? I mean like overclock past thought 1200MHz and so on?
and the overheating issue is a b*tch being to me when i try to overclock it with "Kernel Adiutor",of course I couldn't past through the 1200MHz limitation but hey, it was an interesting experiment.
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Its a kernel thing.
There are cheap Chinese phones out there with better specs than this phone. Rather than overclocking & risking to damage it, I would say getting those phones are a good alternative solution.
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K.khiladi said:
Its a kernel thing.
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Oh it is' now.. okay so do you know what kernel should I flash so that I can be able to overclock past the limitation of 1200MHz?
HerySean said:
Oh it is' now.. okay so do you know what kernel should I flash so that I can be able to overclock past the limitation of 1200MHz?
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Try the latest squid kernel. The overclock is just mild to keep everything stable.
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HerySean said:
So i've meaning to ask, have anyone tried to overclock the MXP? I mean like overclock past thought 1200MHz and so on?
The kernel must also support this overclock and the only option you have is squids kernel. 1209Mhz on the little and 1708Mhz on the big cores is the limit at this moment. You cant overclock a stock kernel only using a kernel manager.
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Sickaxis79 said:
HerySean said:
So i've meaning to ask, have anyone tried to overclock the MXP? I mean like overclock past thought 1200MHz and so on?
The kernel must also support this overclock and the only option you have is squids kernel. 1209Mhz on the little and 1708Mhz on the big cores is the limit at this moment. You cant overclock a stock kernel only using a kernel manager.
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Oh okay, thank you
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--> Moved
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Does it work with camera mod and does it allow fast picture taking with moto camera app like stock kernel does? (This is something the TurboZ kernel failed at)
Does this kernel work with 7.1.1 nougat stock?
xamindar said:
Does it work with camera mod and does it allow fast picture taking with moto camera app like stock kernel does? (This is something the TurboZ kernel failed at)
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dchitolie said:
Does this kernel work with 7.1.1 nougat stock?
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you can only try it. it is an beta atm. i have to do more patches and test before i release it as stable.
Where is the download link ?, thanks
AuxXxilium said:
CPU up to 1.6 & 2.2 GHz (only works on Patched roms)
GPU up to 624 MHz
ElementalX,Ondemand, Interactive, Performance, Conservative, dancedance, nightmare, powersave CPU Governors
Adreno Idler
Adreno Boost
Anykernel Installer
more...
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This sounds interesting,
does this kernel have also voltage & undervolting support ?
Mennpiko said:
Where is the download link ?, thanks
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Haha, you're right. I didn't even realize that there is only the source linked ...
Either it's a skill test, and one needs at least to be able to compile kernel to use this one
or maybe AuxXxilium wants to test it a bit more, before releasing it into the wild^^
Please close this thread.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3602554
this thread closed for now
but MEGAX91 doesn't stopped develop.
so i decided to build this and share with others
Download
- 08/16
kernel with only his source https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=817550096634793028 -> linux 3.18.54
kernel with my work https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=961840155545589107 -> linux 3.18.65
credits
- MEGAX91
source
- MEGAX91 https://github.com/GUYVER91/Capricorn
- me https://github.com/nazunamoe/Capricorn-1/
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which version of bootloader is needed?
357662149 said:
which version of bootloader is needed?
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mm bootloader needed
Tapatalk を使用して私の MI 5s から送信
Will we ever find out why standalone kernels won't boot on nougat bootloader?
Gotta ask, did you fix the sleep of death issue? From version 1.9 too 2.2 my phone, either in sleep or in use, will lock up after a few hours and I have to force restart it. Clock speeds and everything else is irrelevant as there was something wrong in the kernel itself. Anyways thanks for continuing the development. The kernel was amazing besides the hangs
MIUI Stock Kernel with Overclock
*Sorry for my bad english
Can you make MIUI Stock kernel with adding CPU freq 2,3 Ghz Big Core ,2,2 Ghz Little Core CPU, and GPU to 650 Mhz ? ,
I just discovered that removing Thermal config in /etc/thermal-engine-8996.conf boost performance and stability for playing emulator game like Tekken 6 and Monster Hunter P3rd (both with OpenGL), and Digimon World 4 (Dolphin Emu) yet raising CPU to 64 degree Celcius,
I just Wanna know that adding 2,3 Ghz and 650 Mhz is really boost more perfomance for emulator or not.
can you add voltage control?op3t and mi5 have this funcation,and what about miui version
Does this kernel support MIUI or LOS.
Currently I'm on 3.18.31-DragonXia_MIUI_3.9.1 kernel
xUmaRix said:
Does this kernel support MIUI or LOS.
Currently I'm on 3.18.31-DragonXia_MIUI_3.9.1 kernel
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That one supports mi5s?
Chaninoza said:
That one supports mi5s?
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Yes it is .
Hit thanks if it works
xUmaRix said:
Yes it is .
Hit thanks if it works
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Thanks, but im still at MM.
xUmaRix said:
Yes it is .
Hit thanks if it works
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Hey!
Where is the official github and/or forum thread of the DragonXia kernel for Mi5s?
Thanks!
Up for this! Sounds interesting. What are features of this kernel? Thanks for sharing btw.
xUmaRix said:
Yes it is .
Hit thanks if it works
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I installed this. It only change kernel name and doesn't have additional features. No oc, battery fast charge, ntfs support etc like original DragonXia.
Give us a source in this case.
Shame on you
Mind building actual version ?
kael2404 said:
I installed this. It only change kernel name and doesn't have additional features. No oc, battery fast charge, ntfs support etc like original DragonXia.
Give us a source in this case.
Shame on you
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Well i can change the governor and enable lazyplug using this kernel.
xUmaRix said:
Well i can change the governor and enable lazyplug using this kernel.
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Sorry if i being rude,
Can you add CPU OC and GPU OC?
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I mean, add CPU Freq 2,3 and GPU Freq 650 to Dragonxia kernel.
mumiji-lo said:
Sorry if i being rude,
Can you add CPU OC and GPU OC?
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I mean, add CPU Freq 2,3 and GPU Freq 650 to Dragonxia kernel.
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I don't think it support OC.
I think we need to ask dragonxia or whoever maintain this kernel
I can't find it on github
I got it from here https://www.androidfilehost.com/?w=files&flid=168633
xUmaRix said:
I don't think it support OC.
I think we need to ask dragonxia or whoever maintain this kernel
I can't find it on github
I got it from here https://www.androidfilehost.com/?w=files&flid=168633
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What app is this and where can i get it? :3