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You play mobile games? You may want another phone.

Man I love this phone after only a few hours.
Till I loaded up my Castle Clash and COC and I'm sadly disappointed .
Its slower than my old device and I don't understand why. The games even stutter a bit when a lot of action is going on.
What's the deal?
I've changed the title because if you're a mobile gamer like myself you may want to get another phone.

I'm pretty sure the Forced encryption has something to do with it. Hoping an update comes soon because this phone is blazing fast.

Please don't tell me CoC lags! I'm going from the G3 and it played worst than my S4! Please don't tell me that! Plays great on the OnePlus One.... Must be the 2K screen killing the frame rates.
Anyone tried playing CoC with encryption off?

I can confirm game lag isn't encryption. I tested block fortress: war before and after decrypting. There was no change. And its not the GPU or screen because antutu benchmark benches higher in GPU than my note 3 did. My guess is lollipop/art issues. But who knows for sure :/

It's lollipop issues. A lot of developers didn't take advantage of the early preview builds. The Adreno 420 shouldn't have any problem pushing COC on a 2K screen
Sent from my Nexus 6

Phew, okay... That's good news to me then! I'm sure that'll get patched up in a future update or something.

themrjason said:
It's lollipop issues. A lot of developers didn't take advantage of the early preview builds. The Adreno 420 shouldn't have any problem pushing COC on a 2K screen
Sent from my Nexus 6
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Exactly. This thing outperforms the snapdragon 800 pushing 1080p. Basically meaning, all games should actually run noticeably faster than they did on the snapdragon 801 and 800. The 420 is a beast of a GPU.

I already have encryption off.
So basically right now ill have to carry both my phones just to play my games. It's that annoying and I even have ART enabled on my old phone which runs cm11.
I only got 14 days before I can't return this thing.
I'm bummed out.

MrDSL said:
I already have encryption off.
So basically right now ill have to carry both my phones just to play my games. It's that annoying and I even have ART enabled on my old phone which runs cm11.
I only got 14 days before I can't return this thing.
I'm bummed out.
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(Just got this so bear with me) I have encryption on currently and noticed that games that havent been updated yet are a tad slower to load. The games that have updated load instantly. I would just give it a few weeks for the apps to update.

I play CoC and it is smooth as butter on mine. I'm only unlocked and rooted and still have encryption

I play Clash and it's smooth as eggs. It's smoother than my OnePlus One.

There's a thread discussing internal memory and so far it looks like they could be from 3 different manufacturers so performances could be affected by which one you phone is using. To check go to fast boot and it shows in the hardware information on the bottom half of the screen

This worked wonders for me
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nex...ernel-leankernel-minimalistic-kernel-t2954316

I have a 10 and that's suppose to be good..
I suppose I'll try this kernel and see what happens.

MrDSL said:
Man I love this phone after only a few hours.
Till I loaded up my Castle Clash and COC and I'm sadly disappointed .
Its slower than my old device and I don't understand why. The games even stutter a bit when a lot of action is going on.
What's the deal?
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yeah me too .. so disappointed .. its maybe because the game is not yet optimized and the force encryption has a lot of write speed .

I lag on some waves of Kingdom Rush

Its definitely the lack of optimization yet because the benchmarks show this phone to have better performance than rivals such as the iPhone 6 even with its 2k screen being used in the benchmark. The adreno 420 GPU is a monster of a phone GPU. Seriously impressed with how much power they packed into this thing.
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I know I'm completely off-topic...but 2K = 1080P, lol.
QHD is actually just 2.5K
The more you know! lol

iZack187 said:
I know I'm completely off-topic...but 2K = 1080P, lol.
QHD is actually just 2.5K
The more you know! lol
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Lol very true. The whole 2k/4k naming scheme is dumb IMO. Why not say 1440p just like we said 1080p and 720p. Its just more marketable

jairusz said:
I play Clash and it's smooth as eggs. It's smoother than my OnePlus One.
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Oneplus actually has a crippling gpu issue. I haven't encountered it myself on my games but if you read the forums there's a lot of people saying they get stutters.
If you want to test it, try dling StabilityTest from the play store and running the cpu + gpu stress test and you will see very good performance and consistent frame stutters like clockwork.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.into.stability&hl=en

what's you don't like in Z2 & How is the 3GB RAM Performance ?

Hi
what's you don't like in Z2 & How is the 3GB RAM Performance ?
[1] mention & explain the things that you don't like in this phone , the bad things as you see..
[2] also give me a quick review about the 3 GB memory, how much free memory for user apps is available & [3] how is the performance when you switch between heavy apps ?
[4] S5 or Z2 :3 ?!!
please give some attention to these questions ... thank you very much

i dont like that the phone sounds hollow and the fact its intentionaly slowed or made worse than the Z3 (it is capable of doing the same as Z3 but sony makes it only able to reach half(unless you run a custom rom)
performance is epic, no problems at all aside asphalt 8 only app/game with any lag, rest of the games i play sit happy at 59fps

nice,,,
waiting for more comments

Envious_Data said:
i dont like that the phone sounds hollow and the fact its intentionaly slowed or made worse than the Z3 (it is capable of doing the same as Z3 but sony makes it only able to reach half(unless you run a custom rom)
performance is epic, no problems at all aside asphalt 8 only app/game with any lag, rest of the games i play sit happy at 59fps
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Congratulations, you've just completely lost your credibility!
Do you have evidence that the phone is "intentionally made slow" or it's just your shallow and limited thoughts?
Perhaps, you're trying to be a "hero", coming out with bizarre conspiracy theories that hold no water.
Maybe, you need to watch what you say and instead of spewing factless and defaming terms.

i think he want to say that the cpu is 2.3 GHz but its actual clock is much lower than this as with (i don't know if all) some samsung devices.
for example , my galaxy s2 is running too slow under medium load, but when i use custom kernel or over clock apps to run my cpu at its normal 1.2 GHz , the phone becomes fast very Obviously ! (battery drain, heat now & that's normal)
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please lee480, tell me your feedback about the things i asked especially the memory performance

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i think he want to say that the cpu is 2.3 GHz but its actual clock is much lower than this as with (i don't know if all) some samsung devices.
for example , my galaxy s2 is running too slow under medium load, but when i use custom kernel or over clock apps to run my cpu at its normal 1.2 GHz , the phone becomes fast very Obviously ! (battery drain, heat now & that's normal)
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please lee480, tell me your feedback about the things i asked especially the memory performance
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nope, if you're rooted and install a CPU manager app, you can see their stock configuration, the max clock is 2265Mhz if i'm not wrong, and the minumum clock it's ~ 1190Mhz
so, even the Stock* ROMs don't let the CPU frequency fall to the minimum values
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http://imgur.com/iuY6w0z
http://imgur.com/UQvAQ6n

nice info.
thanks bro.

lee480 said:
Congratulations, you've just completely lost your credibility!
Do you have evidence that the phone is "intentionally made slow" or it's just your shallow and limited thoughts?
Perhaps, you're trying to be a "hero", coming out with bizarre conspiracy theories that hold no water.
Maybe, you need to watch what you say and instead of spewing factless and defaming terms.
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explain this to me
Z3 - S801 AC, almost everything else the same as Z2
and yet Z2 cant get the same battery life and performance, somehow users of Z3 getting almost 8 hours of Screen on time and yet quite a few users showing they are finding it hard to get 6 hours
and performance is just strange, as of later firmwares the device doesnt get hot but monitoring my cpu and it just doesnt scale up at all so performance in some games is poor, e.g asphalt 8, sometimes real racing 3,
and then there is this, if you flash older firmwares it isnt that hard to hit 7 - 8 hours of SOT
i think its a tad suspicious that as you go through newer firmwares battery life gets worse till you hit .28 which makes it better
unless there is something else that is going on im sticking to my word,
there are a couple RCs i know who have Z3s and one that has both a Z2 and Z3 and yet they claim its easy to get around 6 hours SOT or more of Screen on time and no matter what i do and the Z2 users find it hard to pass that with a stock firmware and even the same with modified
i think that's just odd and there really isn't much other explanation
I'm not going to reply any reply post of this.
you can ask some of these Z3 owners your Self.

Performance is great like the entire Z2 !!
Just love it ^^
3GB is very good to let the device run smoothly with the light Sony UI and not ram eating touchwiz.
But dont use your phone as a game console, it is a phone !!

I can agree with Envious_Data here. It's not a conspiracy theory, its the sad truth.. Everytime a new flagship comes, the old flagship is made to look bad by giving buggy fw updates.. Then after a few months when the new flagship has made the sales as per their target estimation, they fix the buggy fw.. Its done to make the old flagship look dull so that it forces you to go for the new flagship which doesn't have such issues.. And this is not only done by sony, its done by all oem's.. You can look at the history by looking at what happened to Xperia S, Z, Sammy S3,S4,Note2,etc.. I'm just giving an example, there have been too many phones that I can't remember right now.. And yes, Z3 users easily get 6-8hrs of sot with 2 days of extreme usage.. While Z2 users get 4-5h sot on avg with medium usage for 2 days.. I get 6h sot with 19th time like once in 4 or 5 cycles from 100-0 despite my usage being very same.. It was like this on 4.4.4 167fw, same on every other fw except 4.4.2 initial fw..

Then we have two exceptional and unorthodox cases. Simple. Z2 and Z3 shares close to 100% similar firmware. You can easily look through the kernel source code which is shared between both the Z2 and Z3 and I do not see any codes that's pertaining to intentionally screwing up the system. You can easily find other people posting that their battery life and performance has improved, including me. Now, we have two exceptional ones.
Especially so, if you lack any hard evidence; codes and drivers that points to intentionally slowing down performance by 50% (I have no idea how you got that percentage) and purposefully draining battery, please stop making noise. Currently, your claim is nothing. It doesn't hold water at all.
Perhaps, it's time to lower down your ego and drop this baseless claims. It looks bad on XDA and especially you.
P. S. I have the Xperia Z; performance and RAM management has greatly improved on lollipop. Do you have the Xperia Z? No?
Yes, there's an initial battery drain, but as usual with all Android upgrades, it gets better overtime. Lol
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lee480 said:
Then we have two exceptional and unorthodox cases. Simple. Z2 and Z3 shares close to 100% similar firmware. You can easily look through the kernel source code which is shared between both the Z2 and Z3 and I do not see any codes that's pertaining to intentionally screwing up the system. You can easily find other people posting that their battery life and performance has improved, including me. Now, we have two exceptional ones.
Especially so, if you lack any hard evidence; codes and drivers that points to intentionally slowing down performance by 50% (I have no idea how you got that percentage) and purposefully draining battery, please stop making noise. Currently, your claim is nothing. It doesn't hold water at all.
Perhaps, it's time to lower down your ego and drop this baseless claims. It looks bad on XDA and especially you.
P. S. I have the Xperia Z; performance and RAM management has greatly improved on lollipop. Do you have the Xperia Z? No?
Yes, there's an initial battery drain, but as usual with all Android upgrades, it gets better overtime. Lol
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Agree with you bro @lee480
Btw keep in mind people, that Sony make thier devices better and better and comparing devices is useless like compare the coming Z4 by an old X10i.. Totally useless, so keep realistic !!

I tiny thing that i want to add here peeps. is that Z2 is older so..simply the phone battery itself is getting weaker after the higher charging cycles every day or 2.(talking to the ppl who took thier z2's when they first got out to the stores(i mean yes,almost 1 year passed for me also)).Rly no point for arguing here.Still loving my z2 and i think it will wtill rock the world for 1 or 2 more years ( : It definitely worth every cent.

how are the camera & how much free memory you get when you just turn on the phone now (regardless how much social media apps running)....

Im a regular user. I dont see any problems with my Z2. Im loving every bit of it. For me its not slow, I never experience lags unlike Samsung phones (former S4/S5 user) even debloated. Though the phone heats up fast, esp when playing games and using camera. Sound is kinda soft even with sound mods. Im using eXistenz rom by niaboc. I guess thats all of it. I love my phone, its like a mini TV with a crisp display.

After owning it for one year now, these are the points I would like to see improved on my next phone:
1. This gets hot very quickly during gameplay and in camera mode. Next time I would look into a metal phone and see some heat tests before purchasing.
2. The camera on auto mode isn't so great, the focus isn't good on auto. And I know everyone says use manual, but sometimes you want to quickly snap a photo and not worry.
3. The bezels are too big, I understand that it's good for front facing speakers, but if you don't use your phone for listening via speakers, then it's a waste and makes it bulky.
4. Charging is slow compared to new devices with quick charge 2.0 and other technologies.
But all in all, it is a good device. The battery lasts a good length, it doesn't start lagging over time and the interface is near stock android.
I would recommend this over the s5 for sure, if you are looking into other phones, I would take the s6, g4 and z3 as the phones over this one. Otherwise it holds up against other models.

I love the look, the notification light and the button placement.
It runs like a champ and i have found no difference in smoothness of experience compared to my old nexus 5 (bought on release day). The only issue is heat, it runs fine on heavy titles like real racing at max settings but candy crush soda saga heats the cpu to 60c compared to idle of 39c. Not extremely warm like my g3's screen but still warm.

You all speak of heat issues, but be aware that for newest generations of smartphones, the issues are much more worse (I'm thinking especially of S810 powered phones).
The challenge for manufacters is now to find solutions to efficiently drain away the heat and to adjust adequately the thermal management of so powerful hot chips in so small devices.

Man, there's a whole lot of tinfoil in this thread.

everyone has his own desire..this phone is good and its really capable .if anyone have an overheating issues go pick S4 and check it out....Z2 is a really good device with good price and if you are facing charging issues buy a 2.0 charger it wont hurt trust me .

G3 Now and then How have the phone evolved with the software updates ?

I am expecting my G3 to arrive in my post office tomorrow.
When it was released I was very intersted in G3, I was very impressed with the form factor and screen to body ratio and also the buttons on the back felt new and fresh and ergonomic. However all the reviews in the beginning was not that positive, so I did buy the G2 instead. The main problem I did see with G3 was overheated GPU that was not really good enough for a 2k screen that did also throttle brightness on the screen. The other big thing was that screen most people did not seem that fanatic with it despite being the first 2k screen, it was rather dim and and not bright enough.
However for you people who have had the device sine the start how have the phone evolved ?
I can imagine Lollipop with its 2k Optimization did a lot of good things to the G3 ?
In more recent reviews I do not see people complain about any lag, or that it is slow.
I see also no real complain about the low screen brightness. I have seen early reviews said that it was 370 nits but they have corrected it to 460 nits which
is about as bright as most flagships from the time. Which make me wonder if first revision of the device have a less bright screen ? or if this have been corrected with sofware... regarding contrast I think it will never be the best screen.

Hi,
My experience was a bit mixed feelings.
When i was using the stock Rom (20H) it was works fine, but there was lag and i suffered a bit of overheating during the summer.
Now I changed to a custom ROM (cloudy) and the lag is almost gone, but in some cases still there (specially when waking up from deep sleep). Overheating is not an issue on that Rom, even after heavy gaming.
The screen is awesome. The hardware is good enough. LG software and Rom update is crap.
I'm happy but i don't think I'll by LG again.
Sent from my phone

I'm super happy with mine, running CM12.1 latest nightly. I don't have issues with lag or overheating. Though I don't do much gaming.

blackinfinity said:
I am expecting my G3 to arrive in my post office tomorrow.
However for you people who have had the device sine the start how have the phone evolved ?
I can imagine Lollipop with its 2k Optimization did a lot of good things to the G3 ?
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The phone's performance certainly improved. But even latest 20 t/s/u roms still has jerky animations everywhere. It's better than 1 second delay on opening EVERYTHING, that was present on kitkat, but it's still pretty bad IMO. Especially if compared with CM...
BTW, CM and roms based on it are using 5.1.1_R18 as a base. This is WAAAY newer than LG's 5.0 build. Faster, smoother, more battery efficient...
And yeah, the 2k screen is not the problem. My friend has an Oppo Find 7a: 2k screen, adreno 330, 801 cpu @ 2.33 GHz... And it's as smooth as his IPad. Aaaand it's on 4.3. Which means that LG did so terrible job at optimising the firmware, that even ART and all 5.0 performance improvements can't cover up their coding unskills ._.

Guys, have you tried not using the stock LG keyboard?
There's a thread reporting that for some reason, doing this, kills at least home screen lags. That certainly did the trick for me as well, although I keep coming back to this keyboard, since I find it best suits my needs compared to Google's or Swiftkey's.
Just make sure to restart your phone after changing the default keyboard to anything else than LG's stock keyboard, so the process isn't running in the background.

I have now received the phone performed the updates, the latest update I use now is 5.0 still. Do you guys have 5.1 ?
I can confirm the phone is slow and laggy as hell.. it is worse then my Mate 7.
I have never rooted and have not much experience. CM 12 might be the only way, but is that still based on kitkat ?

LG G3 was a real nightmare on stock atleast for me I got the 5.0 version, I read that people in usa have 5.1. so I guess you have less problem.
Anyway I solved any type of lag with help of modyfying that animation speeds in developer options setting it to 5.x on all 3.
In apex launcher I did set it always stay in memory, I did not use system animations but apex own "slide up" app animation.
in the Drawer I use the in and out fly animation (the gpu cannot hande the circle animation looks terrible)
Anyway this made a dramtic difference..so I am pertty much happy now.. it is faster then my Mate 7..and I really like the multi tasking view..even though I wish it did open little bit faster (again I guess it does in 5.1)
Screen was not impressive I prefer the G2 screen because of higher conrtast ratio.
That blacks are not good on this display, JDI NEO displays have better blacks for sure.. they are in Sony phones and Huawei to name a few..
Anyway.. this phone I will have until Huawei Mate 8 is released..which I will most likely buy.. The only thing that worry me is that they are so busy making it as thin as possible that they will sacrifice the batter..I am sorry I will not accept a small battery.

Weird I keep reading about lag issues on stock G3 and I never experienced lag on my stock Koodo/Telus D852. Wondering if it's carrier related and how bad they "tweak" the base rom...

Replace S7 Edge for Games

Hi Guys, i'm overall happy with my S7 Edge Exynos, but some games have big issues and i'm thinking on sell it and get another phone because i'm not sure this will be fixed. Just want ur feedback on what similar phone could be a good replacement.
thanks for ur opinion.

To my understanding the underlying issues on Games is the Software Optimisation on the Operating System.
Its heavily optimised for battery performance.
There is tweaks and methods to help increase the game response.
But i would imagine in time updates will perfect this, Its better having a device with Insane battery, Than a next Gen Mobile with massive battery drain.
Unfornatually regardless of what games i chuck at this, i have only ever had a couple of stutters and thats because of some heavy background tasks i forgot to close.

Yes been having this problem ever since, it wont be fixed its a kernel and DVFS software issue. A phone made for games that can gane at all...
I actually think the same thing i know G5 is better as it throttles less, iphone is the best phone for gaming, maybe the new P9 is good too, im in the same position

I find this odd as I'm not having any kind of lag or stutter on my Exynos S7E. A lot of people reported this issue on the SD variant though. Did you check if something was eating your RAM?

Thanks guys, can u try Need for speed no Limits and u'll see what im talking about...

Fossxp13 said:
Thanks guys, can u try Need for speed no Limits and u'll see what im talking about...
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Yes, especially nfs no limits, as its requirements are higher than every other possible games, but I also see small stutters on Real Racing 3 (starting at 60 fps then decreases to 40), however most saddening stutter occurs in Alto's Adventure as no real source was used for this game, still it stutters after 5 or 6 minutes. I can clearly say that this is nonsense, unless it is a software problem. To be clear about the stutter, it is more like an additional layer of software that also manipulates real time and game time, device tries to draw 60 frames per second, but in real time it takes couple of seconds.

yes too bad, i dont understand why a device almost 3-4 times higher benchmarks it's outperform in real gameplay, por example a P8 runs extremelly well this game a any other one... this disapoint me

https://youtu.be/Z9Rgx0C24J8
https://youtu.be/oWJh8LtJtfc
Sorry for bad quality but check it out
The same fps boost wiem Got messege From messemger etc
P9 Haven thai same GPU like s7 exynos but p9 Have 4 core and s7 Have 12

I just give up to play Need for Speed No Limits on my S7 Edge Exynos. Is just impossible to play after 5 minutes.
Just as a information I played the same game on a old Galaxy S4 Mini witch has much lower hardware specs, and no problems at all. Samsung just lie when says a S7 is a phone for games

magoo1275 said:
I just give up to play Need for Speed No Limits on my S7 Edge Exynos. Is just impossible to play after 5 minutes.
Just as a information I played the same game on a old Galaxy S4 Mini witch has much lower hardware specs, and no problems at all. Samsung just lie when says a S7 is a phone for games
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Really bizarre, I've read loads of people complaining of the same issue so downloaded NFS NO Limits to test.
Been playing for 20 minutes with no lag of stuttering.

regnighc said:
Really bizarre, I've read loads of people complaining of the same issue so downloaded NFS NO Limits to test.
Been playing for 20 minutes with no lag of stuttering.
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Really? it's ur S7 Edge Exynos or Snapdragon, seems to affect only Exynos.

Slow gaming compared to Samsung Galaxy S6

To be honest I'm a little underwhelmed with the gaming speed of the XZ.
I only play one game, its a game in KIK called Galatronvs which is a basic Shootemup.
And to be honest , it is REALLY LAGGY on the XZ compared to the S6......The S6 stays smooth , doesn't judder, doesn't pause, doesn't jump.
All these things happen on the XZ as the game gets busier and there are more bullets and ships on the screen..ultimately i die because its becomes a slide show.
After reading all the articles about the Snapdragon 820 and the Adreno 530 I feel more than a little bit down that my two year old S6 with an Inhouse Mali-T760MP8 outperforms it.
Don't get me wrong, in day to day use it's a dream to use..I don't know what it is about Samsung that their hardware is so good but it translates so badly on software that using the phone feels like work rather than fun, even Swiftkey runs like crap on the Samsung.
I haven't tried any other phones yet, but my friend has just gotten a Google Pixel XL and he's going to let me install Kik and have a 30 minute game next week.
If it lags as well, I'd have to say either the Adreno 530 isn't all that good, or the game is terribly optimised.
Either way , at the moment I'm underwhelmed by my Platinum flagship phone gaming experience.

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To be honest I'm a little underwhelmed with the gaming speed of the XZ.
I only play one game, its a game in KIK called Galatronvs which is a basic Shootemup.
And to be honest , it is REALLY LAGGY on the XZ compared to the S6......The S6 stays smooth , doesn't judder, doesn't pause, doesn't jump.
All these things happen on the XZ as the game gets busier and there are more bullets and ships on the screen..ultimately i die because its becomes a slide show.
After reading all the articles about the Snapdragon 820 and the Adreno 530 I feel more than a little bit down that my two year old S6 with an Inhouse Mali-T760MP8 outperforms it.
Don't get me wrong, in day to day use it's a dream to use..I don't know what it is about Samsung that their hardware is so good but it translates so badly on software that using the phone feels like work rather than fun, even Swiftkey runs like crap on the Samsung.
I haven't tried any other phones yet, but my friend has just gotten a Google Pixel XL and he's going to let me install Kik and have a 30 minute game next week.
If it lags as well, I'd have to say either the Adreno 530 isn't all that good, or the game is terribly optimised.
Either way , at the moment I'm underwhelmed by my Platinum flagship phone gaming experience.
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Your problem is very strange. I have xperia xz and i don't have laggy game xperience. The games goes smooth really. What games did you try? Or you play with stamina active?

djgigi94 said:
Your problem is very strange. I have xperia xz and i don't have laggy game xperience. The games goes smooth really. What games did you try? Or you play with stamina active?
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I really only play the one game called Galatronvs via the instant messaging app KIK.
my phone is unlocked,rooted and still on MM 39.0.A.3.30 because i want to still use Xposed Framework.
I don't use any stamina settings at all , they are always turned off, nor do i use any power saving apps such as greenify.
I don't even use a kernal control program that will let you route more processes into a single core thus saving battery.
Bluntly put, the phone is running at full speed with no power saving.
I would imagine unless you've moved from a different phone to your XZ and play the same games you wouldn't notice the difference..Also it would very much depend on the kind of game.
Any game thats not already pushing the old phone isn't going to show any difference on the XZ is it.
Galatron is an upwards scrolling shootemup that gets increasingly more difficult, more bullets , more ships ...thats when you notice the difference ..only when it really starts to get busy.
So i dunno, Guess I'll have more of an idea when i try the Pixel XL with the 821 and the Adreno 530...Though technically the 821 isn't supposed to impact gaming, just multitasking , better power usage etc.
I'll be spewin bickies if its much better , I really don't want the Pixel..it's a little too small and the XL is a little too big :laugh: ... And i hate using a phone without Xposed which i can't do with N

batfink1 said:
I really only play the one game called Galatronvs via the instant messaging app KIK.
my phone is unlocked,rooted and still on MM 39.0.A.3.30 because i want to still use Xposed Framework.
I don't use any stamina settings at all , they are always turned off, nor do i use any power saving apps such as greenify.
I don't even use a kernal control program that will let you route more processes into a single core thus saving battery.
Bluntly put, the phone is running at full speed with no power saving.
I would imagine unless you've moved from a different phone to your XZ and play the same games you wouldn't notice the difference..Also it would very much depend on the kind of game.
Any game thats not already pushing the old phone isn't going to show any difference on the XZ is it.
Galatron is an upwards scrolling shootemup that gets increasingly more difficult, more bullets , more ships ...thats when you notice the difference ..only when it really starts to get busy.
So i dunno, Guess I'll have more of an idea when i try the Pixel XL with the 821 and the Adreno 530...Though technically the 821 isn't supposed to impact gaming, just multitasking , better power usage etc.
I'll be spewin bickies if its much better , I really don't want the Pixel..it's a little too small and the XL is a little too big :laugh: ... And i hate using a phone without Xposed which i can't do with N
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I compared the games with mate 9 for example,i think it is more fluid than mate 9. I ONLY use for games android N ,because android N on xz is much better than M in overall (battery and performace in particular). I think your version of firmware is the less optimized and old. What do you use xposed in particular? I have z2 and there i use often xposed. But on xz i stay so good with android n and latest firmware. And i don't care actually for root and xposed. Is fully stock.

I think you might be experiencing the same thing as me. This happens on all of the Xperia devices I've owned (Z2 Tablet, Z3, Z3C, and Z5.). My XZ is on order, and I'll be sure to test this again. Yes, benchmarks have about the same high scores as all the other flagships, but 3D games stutters on Xperia devices. I think most users are not able to notice it. Hardcore FPS PC gamers like myself would notice this easily.
Here's a thread I created on the Z3 forums a while back: https://forum.xda-developers.com/z3/help/stuttering-games-t2949670 . There's a video in there with my Z3 and LG G2 playing Riptide GP 2.
I just learned to live it with since gaming is not my priority on my phone, and because I don't like all the other phones.

Honestly I'm not a hardcore gamer, I only play the one game Galatronvs via the KIK APP, it's basically a BOT game which is a downwardly scrolling shootemup... However you do compete online against other players.
And I've confirmed it's definitely a heat issue.
Sadly Sony were supposed to have solved their heating issues with the release of the snapdragon 20...but they haven't.
I can actively connect the lagginess of the game directly with the heat of the phone, the ambient heat of the room, and that you can feel the phone getting hotter and hotter in direct relation to how laggy it gets.
I've even been in the middle of a laggy game with the phone feeling very hot and deliberately moved in front of an air cooler with the back of the phone directly in the path of the cool air and had the lagging start to recede as the phone cools down.
I was given an opportunity to try a pixel xl on the same game in an air conditioned room and they were similar.
Then I went outside in the summer heat and the pixel stayed smooth, the Sony rapidly heated up and started to lag.
When you exit the game the Sony stays laggy for about 6 to 7 seconds.. I imagine this is as it cools down.
I love Sony phones, I love that they stick with standard HD screens for good battery life.
I love that they stick with the 5.2" screen... I don't have huge hands.
SwiftKey seems to work better on a Sony than on a Samsung definitely that's for sure.
Though to be honest I am always a little let down by Sony's cameras on their own phones.. It's like they make better lenses for everybody else.
The Samsung will focus INSTANTLY on something small and upclose... Like say... A windows 7 sticker (I'm a computer tech)... Whereas I have quite a lot of difficulty getting the Sony to focus up close.
I've just ordered a oneplus 3t which I'll root and put similar xposed framework modules and compare it to the XZ.
I'll update this for anybody that's interested.

let me say something about these issues...i had xperias before and now i own XZ wich i thought that it wouldnt have overheating problems like on the z5 but it still has some wierd isuues...for example:i ran a game and even when it got hot it worked smoothly and i was surprised and i sad well done sony or Qualcom LOL...so i was feeling happy and after 2 or 3 weeks of usage i get random lags even if the phone is just a little bit warm with no intence gaming yet but somehow the phone works good when its hot but lags when its cooler...this is so wierd...i dont know anymore whats going on with there phones but im seriously thinking of not buying xperia phones again...a guy at waranty sad to me that this is not overheating but its just heating and its up to sony and not them OMG.... i was so angry when he replied me in that way,that i was in the mood to hit that guy strait on the nose really.these phones are not cheap and im not letting them making me a fool.but at the end they will get me back becouse im a Sony fan and also love there design language...sick bastards

Even though I'm a huge nerd, I really did avoid smart phones.. Or even mobile phones for a long long time.. I hated the idea that somebody could contact me no matter where I was.. I didn't get my first smartphone till March 2012.
That was the Samsung Galaxy nexus now more commonly known as the Google nexus.
After that I got an LG G2 and a week later I bought a Sony Z1... And the very first thing I noticed was that even though the LG g2 and the Z1 were based on the same SOC... The Z1 felt vastly superior to use.. It felt faster and more responsive... But i ended up using the LG g2 due to its amazing battery life.
After that I got a Z3 which also had fantastic battery life and I kept that for numerous years till the Z3+ came out.
That was a bad decision.. I was an early adapter.. I wish I'd waited.
So I got an S6 edge.
Worst phone EVER.... The middle of the screen is so unresponsive.. That curve does not make perfect contact with the digitizer or whatever is underneath it.
So I got a S6 flat version... And still a terrible phone experience... Honestly the technology in Samsung phones is amazing... It's like their memory technology is twice as fast as the competition.
It's like comparing a computer with a hard drive to one with an SSD, but they're just let down by poor implementation of software.. It's hard to explain.
I love haptic feedback.. I can't type on a phone without it.
The Z1's haptic feedback was so amazing you could practically hear it across the room if you turned it up.. And if you kept pressing a button fast it's like it would set up a constant vibration..
Same for the Z3+, the Z3 had pretty average feedback as does the XZ I'm writing on now.
However the S6 has the worst feedback I've ever used on a phone.. It's a very high frequency.. It makes typing on the phone unpleasant, it makes using the navigation buttons unpleasant.. The S6 has issues with SwiftKey, yet SwiftKey worked flawlessly on the LG g2, Z1, Z3, Z3+ and the XZ.
So I've not really had that many brands of phones.. That's why I'm giving the Oneplus 3t a go... I've given Sony my loyalty and been burnt twice now.
I'm a big fan of notification lights so I won't go HTC since their too cheap to put a decent light in... And they hide it in the speaker grill.
I wish phone reviewers would review notification lights and feedback... There's more to a phone than how fast it launches a program or what the launcher looks like... There's how it "feels" to use as well.
Just my two cents worth on my thread.

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Honestly I'm not a hardcore gamer, I only play the one game Galatronvs via the KIK APP, it's basically a BOT game which is a downwardly scrolling shootemup... However you do compete online against other players.
And I've confirmed it's definitely a heat issue.
Sadly Sony were supposed to have solved their heating issues with the release of the snapdragon 20...but they haven't.
I can actively connect the lagginess of the game directly with the heat of the phone, the ambient heat of the room, and that you can feel the phone getting hotter and hotter in direct relation to how laggy it gets.
I've even been in the middle of a laggy game with the phone feeling very hot and deliberately moved in front of an air cooler with the back of the phone directly in the path of the cool air and had the lagging start to recede as the phone cools down.
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Thanks for that info. I'll be sure to test for heat problems when I receive mines. Now I fear that I may have two problems when it comes to gaming, suttering and heat LOL.
I haven't had any heat problems with my current Z5 though. The only time was when recording in 4K during a heat wave (around 95F).

Meh the play store is still full of *****y games that weren't even optimised for the adreno 530, the phone has no fault, the 530 destroys not only the competition(in the same category), but especially older mobile GPUs, ask the dev to use his fingers to make a proper app, the XZ has no fault.

I play EA sport - UFC game (i think this is a first-classe game for smartphone, close to PS3 games graphic and textures!!!)
i see lag when conect charger and play this game... this is normal for any phone when actived soc thermal controll (I have galaxy S6 before XZ too!)
any phone have good performance in gaming is "iPhone" but i am ok with freedom in android platform
* sorry for my bad english...

i test some apps i don't if it s the case or not but most games are developed by unity3d!
they are fine on other phones! on xperia this is the similar issue between games that slowing down

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To be honest I'm a little underwhelmed with the gaming speed of the XZ.
I only play one game, its a game in KIK called Galatronvs which is a basic Shootemup.
And to be honest , it is REALLY LAGGY on the XZ compared to the S6......The S6 stays smooth , doesn't judder, doesn't pause, doesn't jump.
All these things happen on the XZ as the game gets busier and there are more bullets and ships on the screen..ultimately i die because its becomes a slide show.
After reading all the articles about the Snapdragon 820 and the Adreno 530 I feel more than a little bit down that my two year old S6 with an Inhouse Mali-T760MP8 outperforms it.
Don't get me wrong, in day to day use it's a dream to use..I don't know what it is about Samsung that their hardware is so good but it translates so badly on software that using the phone feels like work rather than fun, even Swiftkey runs like crap on the Samsung.
I haven't tried any other phones yet, but my friend has just gotten a Google Pixel XL and he's going to let me install Kik and have a 30 minute game next week.
If it lags as well, I'd have to say either the Adreno 530 isn't all that good, or the game is terribly optimised.
Either way , at the moment I'm underwhelmed by my Platinum flagship phone gaming experience.
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sometimes im playing game in my xz but i dont have really issue in heating or laggy (my phone have nougat version)
maybe your issue because you are in MM, lets try to nougat.
or use custome rom.

I received my XZ (F8331) a few days ago. I don't seem to be experiencing any heat issues when it comes to gaming. Also the stuttering I mentioned for Xperia devices is now almost gone. It's still there, but it's so little that it doesn't bother me anymore.
I've only played 3 games so far:
Skyforce Reloaded
Riptide GP Renegade
Asphalt Extreme
Running the Stability Test app from the Play store, the XZ does throttle down much much sooner than my Z5 (the Z5's heatpipes seems to work really well), but that app puts all CPU cores on full load.
I'm curious about this game Galvatronvs you're playing. I'd like to see if it runs the same on my XZ. Could you point me in the right direction to download this game?

need for speed no limits lag like hell

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Hello ,
No problem here , i have try now about 30 minutes and no lag
Check my videos:
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Okey i test with "game benchmark"
And no difference between S6 and XZ in game frame rate...
Asphalt8: get 30fps in both devices.
Zombi Highway 2: get 60fps in both devices.
From that test you find:
1) some games locked in lower frame rate, or bad optimized. (asphalt lock on 30fps, zombi highway lock on 60fps)
2) android use "vsync" lock the hardware for limitted fps. Adreno 530 is more powerful then mali T760 (and T880 too!). but there are some software limitations.
3) limited adreno 530 result: gpu not need all his power for reach to 60fps. In my Xperia XZ gpu never reach to 60% load, because not need more load for recive to 60fps.
4) from number#3: none overheating feel when compared with my galaxy s6! s6 need more gpu load for reach to 60fps and gpu core loading heat up the device.
5) unlock software limitations needs custom kernels, and risk of overheating and hardware damage! You don't need more than 60fps for mobile gaming.
6) bad news: Snapdragon 808 can reach to 60fps easily. You can only see "hardware war" between companies. When older SoC can do perfect the end-user works!