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Am I the only one to fnd that WM5 is a complete waste of time and not worth upgradong for let alone buying. It is in fact a huge step back from 2003.
First of all the flaky Activesync 4 which has had minimal testing on anything approaching a real world PC. How could any developer worth anything have not tested this on a machine with half-decent secruity measures, especially moving the sync protocol to use the TCP/IP stack. TCP/IP -> firewall -doh! (not the laughable toy Windows Firewall either).
Onto the operating system itself, where do I start?
1. The new "improved" memory management???? where is the improvement. How can you class something an improvement when it slows everything down, makes usability more difficult.
2. The communications manager. ....why???? a dumb interface hiding access to needed functions, especially when you are setting up a wireless access, why put on a pointless window just to be able to "switch on" a function???
3.GPRS why hide functionality again? Why remove the connect option from the icon on the top bar. Why do I have to start an internet explorer session just to connect to GPRS?
4.Messaging. Why remove the send/receive button? now we have to press menu then navigate to the send/receive function. So much easier to use...I think not... and why is Outlook email the default, we are not all corporate clones yet
5.Contacts. Where are all the customisation funtions, why can't i arrange the display to suit me. Why can't i select more than one contact at a time, which bright spark of an MS designer (whose only experience of the real world is the trip to the coffee machine) thought it was a good idea to only select one contact at a time....
6. Uninstall programmes, doesn't work properly, stupid error message about not being able to uninstall completley, then bits being left over even in soft reset, making a hard reset inevitable. double doh!!!
7.Installation failures, for example installing MS own voice command, warns not to install on anything but main memory but then when that is selected comes up with a classic null error message, and takes up over 50% of the program memory anyway.
For those of us who haven't got time to sit and devise brilliant technical workarounds, for us who have to deal with an irate user group having this approximation of an upgrade forced upon them. WM5 is a complete waste of space.
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First, I totally agree with you about ActiveSync 4 - at best the testing and quality control was simply shoddy but not different from a lot of other sw these days.
@1 I like the new memory management even though it contributes to decreased performance. To have everything stored in a non-volatile storage and then execute out of ram is a much better architecture IMHO.
@2 I disagree. The advertised direction of WM5 was toward less use of the stylus which the buttons assigned to things like the Conn Mgr improve. My beef is that there is no GPRS control in Conn Mgr - can't turn it on, can't turn it off. I would like to never have to use the stylus - never!!!
@3 Totally agree!
@4 Before I had to use the stylus - now I don't - much better for me.
@5 Agree.
@6. I didn't find the uninstall to work much better in WM 2003. One almost has to do a soft reset before uninstalling and then I always check afterwards with Resco Explorer for stuff still left around.
@7. I have found that a lot of install errors are with legacy software not upgraded to WM5. In fact, almost all the errors and soft resets on my KJAM have been caused by old software not ready for WM5.
I do wish that before MS puts out a release of any software that they force the developer(s) to live it it for a week or two. Sometimes I think that they do indeed consider the real world as a short walk from their office to the coffee machine. Maybe WM 5.1, 2 or 3 will be better.
Frank
The saying goes "never buy the first iteration of a major release", and it's true. There's teething troubles that should have been caught in testing, but for me the advantages outweigh the disadvantages, specifically stylus-free use, and persistent storage.
We all have different requirements, hence the device won't be right for anyone. I'd imagine that an inevitable service pack will fix some of your complaints, but others really won't be addressed.
As for dealing with an irate user group, well, I wouldn't roll out a device like this to a user group unless I was confident in it. If you work for a network, I guess you've got no choice.
It used to be that early adopters of this sort of thing were geeks/technophiles at heart, but now a phone is a fashion accessory they're getting into everyone's hands quickly... The good news is that pressure should force manufacturers to get fixes quickly.
As for the wish that MS wanting developers to eat their own dog food, well, they do... However, the demographic of an MS developer or even business manager is a bit different to the audience for the device. I would still imagine that a hell of a lot of "focus groups" etc have been involved in designing the OS etc.
I guess sales advisors in the phone retailers should be aware of the potential pitfalls and be advising people as to whether the device really is for them or not. I've had huge problems with AS4.0/1 and my firewall, but I know that I'm on my own and that phoning t-mobile would be as much fun and use as kicking myself hard in the crotch.
I think the AS4 issue is going to be the single largest issue posing a challenge in the uptake of newer devices in the enterprise area. Large companies will not compromise on their existing security profiles just because MS can't get its newest product to coexist with even their own firewall... What a joke!
Activesync 4.1 is much better than AS4.0. I have been using build 4807 shortly after getting my K-JAM, and its much improved over the original 4.0. I updated to the beta build 4807 about a day after getting my KJAM (and installing 4.0) and its heaps better.
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My beef is that there is no GPRS control in Conn Mgr - can't turn it on, can't turn it off. I would like to never have to use the stylus - never!!!
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The red phone button will kill a GPRS session if you just hold it down for a few seconds..
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fmcgirt said:
My beef is that there is no GPRS control in Conn Mgr - can't turn it on, can't turn it off. I would like to never have to use the stylus - never!!!
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The red phone button will kill a GPRS session if you just hold it down for a few seconds..
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Yes, I know about turning it off - but you need to run something like Messaging or PIE to turn it on - and some of my internet apps will no longer cause a GPRS startup so I have to run something else first - insane!!!
Frank
I feel your frustrations. I don't get it either. Microsoft seems to market their stuff to guys with a lot of time on their hands to troubleshoot problems. I always feel like a beta tester...within about 10 minutes of using something, I usually find some kind of glitch, bug, or problem like the Activesync bugs.
Wouldn't this be obvious to a big company who spends a lot of effort on R&D?
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I feel your frustrations. I don't get it either. Microsoft seems to market their stuff to guys with a lot of time on their hands to troubleshoot problems. I always feel like a beta tester...within about 10 minutes of using something, I usually find some kind of glitch, bug, or problem like the Activesync bugs.
Wouldn't this be obvious to a big company who spends a lot of effort on R&D?
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Maybe they have so much effort in R&D and so little in Testing and QC because they have learned there are many of us that will buy new, shoddy stuff and spend the time to help get the bugs out that they don't have to bother - just get it out there and all of us dummies will gobble it up..
I am with you in feeling like the beta (or even alpha) tester - it doesn't take that much effort to discover bugs, glitches, inadequate user interface features, sync problems, etc., usually an hour or two with a new device is more than enough for me.
Maybe our expectations about converged devices are way too high. I know I compare the phone part to my old cell phones and without exception think: "Why did they leave out that feature?" or "Why doesn't this work?", "Why is the RF so lousy?", etc. And do exactly the same thing with the PDA part. I really don't think we will ever see a converged device that is as good as two very good separate devices - at least with the present set of OS developers and hardware manufacturers. Their mindset simply won't allow it.
But for me, I like my KJAM very much and even though I hate some of its problems and dumb implmentations, I would never go back to seperate devices. I think my frustrations are more with my feeling that with a little more effort things could be a lot better. And with the prices we pay I think we deserve that effort.
Frank
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I think the AS4 issue is going to be the single largest issue posing a challenge in the uptake of newer devices in the enterprise area. Large companies will not compromise on their existing security profiles just because MS can't get its newest product to coexist with even their own firewall... What a joke!
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This could not be more wrong. From direct experience of corporate network protection, WM 5's dependence on AS 4 is a Good Thing (which is why MS state it is a concession to Enterprise pressure). The move to use the standard IP stack means the network manager can regain control of who has access to his network and who doesn't. It puts an end to people connecting their PPC to their work PC and syncing over all the crap they have stored in their home PC, deliberately or otherwise. That includes virus infected files in My Documents, porn, and pirated software/music/video. Or just personal information that in hindsight they rather we didn't see. Millions is invested in protecting corporate networks and this has been long been comprimised by PDA users (on all platforms) "innocently" syncing their personal devices. It's not just one sided - it protects the user against accidentally loading something onto the corporate network that could instantly lead to dismissal under most corporate network usage/abuse policies.
There's no unforeseen "bug", or technical reason why AS4 doesn't work with a firewalled PC. It just needs the appropriate policies setting by the firewall administrator (be that personal or corporate). That's how it should be.
I got tired of the random misbehavior of ActiveSync 4.1 (Official Version) via USB and decided to try a Bluetooth connection using the instructions under the Help Menu. No problems setting it up, connecting or syncing so I think BT is the way to go for me from now on.
Frank
EDIT - Still having problems!!! Faster connecting but still slow "Looking for Changes", hanging, etc. Soft reset sometimes required.
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k_kirk said:
I think the AS4 issue is going to be the single largest issue posing a challenge in the uptake of newer devices in the enterprise area. Large companies will not compromise on their existing security profiles just because MS can't get its newest product to coexist with even their own firewall... What a joke!
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This could not be more wrong. From direct experience of corporate network protection, WM 5's dependence on AS 4 is a Good Thing (which is why MS state it is a concession to Enterprise pressure). The move to use the standard IP stack means the network manager can regain control of who has access to his network and who doesn't. It puts an end to people connecting their PPC to their work PC and syncing over all the crap they have stored in their home PC, deliberately or otherwise. That includes virus infected files in My Documents, porn, and pirated software/music/video. Or just personal information that in hindsight they rather we didn't see. Millions is invested in protecting corporate networks and this has been long been comprimised by PDA users (on all platforms) "innocently" syncing their personal devices. It's not just one sided - it protects the user against accidentally loading something onto the corporate network that could instantly lead to dismissal under most corporate network usage/abuse policies.
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Although it's annoying, as I can't affect the firewall policy on my work PC, I have to concede it does offer a way to close a big hole in corporate security...
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There's no unforeseen "bug", or technical reason why AS4 doesn't work with a firewalled PC. It just needs the appropriate policies setting by the firewall administrator (be that personal or corporate). That's how it should be.
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I don't agree with that though. It should be the case, but in my case (on my own PC), with all the correct policies in place, AS4.1 still refuses to connect until I actually unload the firewall completely. If I set the f/w to "Allow All", it still won't sync. The logs show no packets being rejected, so it should work. The comments on the MS ActiveSync help pages suggesting users may have problems with VPN clients and other applications that slot themselves into the protocol stack suggests that one or both parties are using coding techniques/functions that aren't as robust as they could be and have left, in my case at least, something that looks like a "bug". When it does work smoothly, and I can petition our IT people to amend the corporate policies and maybe open up AS over SSL for my GPRS connection, it'll save them having to shell out for as many Blackberries for people who've already paid for their own devices...
Dox.
There's no unforeseen "bug", or technical reason why AS4 doesn't work with a firewalled PC. It just needs the appropriate policies setting by the firewall administrator (be that personal or corporate). That's how it should be
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I'd love that to be right, but it's really appearing that it isn't. Sygate Security Agent just doesn't seem to be compatible. When set to "pass all traffic", it doesn't work, and when I manually configure around every blocked piece of traffic, it still doesn't work.
Weird...
If you have any suggestions for what else I can do to get this working then I'd really be grateful for them.
I got my MDA Vario on 5th November. It's my first PPC/WM device ever, after owning a Palm T3 for two years and Psion 3c and Revo before that.
For me, ActiveSync 4.0 (supplied with the Vario) has worked smoothly and flawlessly right out of the box over USB and BT connections. I've now upgraded to the new official 4.1 release and that is just as reliable. I'm syncing with my personal laptop running Win XP Pro SP2 and all MS Windows updates.
I have the standard Windows firewall enabled, NOD32 AV and MS Antispyware Beta for my system protection. As I use a NAT router with SPI I think I have enough protection to not need any further/alternative firewalls running.
I haven't added much software to the Vario, just....
SPB GPRS Monitor supplied with the Vario;
Mapopolis mapping and route planning;
Ghisler Total Commander;
Eidos Tomb Raider.
It is all working just fine
I think it's generally well accepted that AS works fine as long as you're not running anything strange (and by strange, I mean "non-Microsoft" ) on the firewall front. Unfortunately some of us are
Chiark, fair enough, I understand that. But I question why people feel the need to run alternative firewalls. I understand they stop "phone home" type contacts, which a NAT router won't, nor Windows firewall, but I feel it is enough to be protected from external attacks and to let my AV and anti-spyware take care of the trojans and worms.
But each to his own, I suppose.
Windows Firewall is not popular with a lot of corporations... My company has decided on Sygate Secure Agent and has deployed it to over 30,000 employees. They're not going to change as a result of an incompatability with AS4!
The point is that MS needs to be working hard to correct this fault, and address the issues in the above posts.
I *just* installed Samsung Kies to use with my T-mobile vibrant. The software downloaded just fine.
I installed it, and as soon as I ran the software, my internet connection (I used a USB 802.1g wireless adapter) conked out.
Nothing I did (release, renew, disabling and enabling the adapter) helped.
So, I rebooted my PC. Internet connection came up like normal....until I doubled clicked the kies icon in the systray to run the software again. All of a sudden I lost internet connectivity again.
Going to try it one more time after posting this message. If it knocks out my connection again, then I will take back every nice thing I have ever said about Samsung.
That is weird. Kies should affect your wifi network card, since they are not really related at all. Also, it didn't do anything to my network connection.Try uninstalling it and reinstall?
un-f*cking-believable.
I ran Kies right after making that post and couldn't connect to anything on the internet.
A disable/enable through the Windows XP control panel got me back up and running.
My guess would be that the software somehow locks down data/communication to the USB ports. My USB wireless adapter (an Airlink101) couldn't get a DHCP lease with Kies running.
I will be uninstalling Samsung's piece of **** software immediately. Another screw-up by a delusions-of-grandeur company that should stick to making TVs (and nothing else).
There is no excuse for data sync software to break the IP stack on a PC. Utterly ridiculous.
I will be sure to give Samsung products a wide berth in the future
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un-f*cking-believable.
I ran Kies right after making that post and couldn't connect to anything on the internet.
A disable/enable through the Windows XP control panel got me back up and running.
My guess would be that the software somehow locks down data/communication to the USB ports. My USB wireless adapter (an Airlink101) couldn't get a DHCP lease with Kies running.
I will be uninstalling Samsung's piece of **** software immediately. Another screw-up by a delusions-of-grandeur company that should stick to making TVs (and nothing else).
There is no excuse for data sync software to break the IP stack on a PC. Utterly ridiculous.
I will be sure to give Samsung products a wide berth in the future
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Set a static while you need the software. Whats the big deal.
That won't work. XP sends a DHCP request at windows log-on and gets a lease for a few hours/days (depending on how you have your router set up).
After your machine gets the IP lease, the stack treats it like a static IP.
The Kies software has some buggy USB interface code. It should poll the USB for devices it recognizes and then initialize whatever protocol for authentication/tranfser/whatever...... instead Kies' polling function is somehow actively disrupting communication on the USB (i don't write drivers, so i'm not familiar with the applicable functions or routines).
Basically, hard-coding a static ip wont' do anything. My machine still has the correct IP when Kies starts. It is only after a user-initiated DHCP release that it cannot get a new lease from my router.
Other machines on my network are unaffected (including my Vibrant), so I know its my PC and I knows it is Kies causing the problem.
I have already uninstalled it. If I ever meet a Samsung employee then they'll get an earful about how bad their company sucks.
I made this post for other people who might have the issue and not realize that the Kies software is causing their problem (it auto-starts itself when you boot up windows, so less savvy users might not realize what is going on until they disable it)
So.. did you try it before you replied? You seem to need to prove how much you know about windows networking... so i dont assume you will try anything and will continue to mislead and place blame as you see fit.
I know enough about PC's to know to IMMEDIATELY uninstall software that arbitrarily knocks out your internet connection. Wrangling with it just isn't worth it unless you need it for something. Besides... how am I doing to download a firmware update if Kies has killed off my PC's internet connection?
Its bug-ridden crapware and I am far from the only person who has had problems with it. As a matter of fact, half the people who run Kies can't even get it to recognize their phones properly.
I'm not trying to prove anything to anyone. The extra information is there in case anyone wants to try to fix the problem. -I'm not going to waste my time fixing Samsung's mistake.
As for blame... its pretty obvious where the blame should go. I'm not having any connection problems since removing the software.
Samsung sucks. Plain and simple.
You are an isolated case, seems to be only one complaining about it. I bet it's because you uses a USB wireless adapter, not that many people have that technology anymore.
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Do your own tests. Run the software and see if it affects any of your other USB devices.
Lol at the IRQ conflict or bandwith suggestions. Nope, that's not it.
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I know enough about PC's to know to IMMEDIATELY uninstall software that arbitrarily knocks out your internet connection. Wrangling with it just isn't worth it unless you need it for something. Besides... how am I doing to download a firmware update if Kies has killed off my PC's internet connection?
Its bug-ridden crapware and I am far from the only person who has had problems with it. As a matter of fact, half the people who run Kies can't even get it to recognize their phones properly.
I'm not trying to prove anything to anyone. The extra information is there in case anyone wants to try to fix the problem. -I'm not going to waste my time fixing Samsung's mistake.
As for blame... its pretty obvious where the blame should go. I'm not having any connection problems since removing the software.
Samsung sucks. Plain and simple.
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You keep blaming Samsung, which is typical behavior. Meaning when someone had a problem they try to find someone to blame instead of taking ownership.
You could have updated your wireless nic drivers (or whatever nic was problematic) and then checked to see if there are known issues with Keis and whatever vendor and chipset you use.
Trying half way doesn't help anyone.
Im not saying it not possible that samsungs Keis software causes problems with certain configurations. Im saying exhaust all the troubleshooting options before staking your claim against the big bad phone maker.
Keep in mind you are trying to get something nonofficial to the vibrant to work. So its on you if there are problems.
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I did just help people. I just told them about yet another in the long line of bugs that Kies has.
Only fan-boys would defend a product which is known for for having tons of problems.
Keep bumping this thread, though. hopefully other people with the same problem will see it and uninstall Kies if it causes issues for them
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Really. How are people without internet connections going to post on the message board?
Besides that, someone has to be the first one to report any problem. No one believed the first guy who said the Xbox360 was buggy either
If you don't have anything helpful to add to the thread (except for not not believing me), then maybe you should ask yourself why you're still replying. It takes a big man to comment on a problem he's never seen, and doesn't understand, and decide that he knows better than someone who has experienced the issue first-hand.
Lol, maybe you're a Samsung programmer? That would explain a lot! No wonder Kies sucks so bad.
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you did ...
im done arguing, and ill make note to ignore anymore threads you make
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That's your problem. There's nothing to argue about. The software is buggy and that is a widely known fact. Go troll some other thread.
You don't know what you're talking about anyway.
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That's your problem. There's nothing to argue about. The software is buggy and that is a widely known fact. Go troll some other thread.
You don't know what you're talking about anyway.
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The only reason he's even arguing with you is because you came off as a **** when you said LOL to his post (he even said MAYBE).
There IS nothing to argue about here, it works for some and not for others.
Gigamaster89 said:
The only reason he's even arguing with you is because you came off as a **** when you said LOL to his post (he even said MAYBE).
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exactly, anyways i removed everything not going to stoop to his level
We have many different devices here... Galaxy S2, Note 8, S3, Note II , S4 etc... Over the past few weeks we have had our Galaxy S4's start to run jittery, frequently begin displaying a message, "Can't play video" when attempting to play video loops in VideoView and random crashes/device reboots throughout the day. The strange thing was that we had many different S4's that mostly appeared to reboot at the exact same time. It also seemed like at about 4pm every day all of the issues would go away and return the next morning. It really had us banging our heads off a wall since this was effecting so many devices, however only S4's.
Eventually we found out what seems to be going on, although we are still unsure of why it is happening or why the other devices aren't seeing the same symptoms. We are convinced that this is two issue acting together... One with our network and the other with the S4 device itself.
We downloaded the app SystemPanelLite which shows us inbound and outbound network traffic as well as cpu usage. We ran numerous tests on many different networks and what we found was when we were our main company network the inbound traffic on EVERY device would constantly spike from 2.2mb/s - 3.2 mb/s which would cause the cpu to jump to high levels. We put a VideoView on a loop on one device, and on another device we would watch the inbound traffic on the network. Whenever the traffic would spike the video would start getting very jittery and even sometimes throw an OnError event with a what parameter of -1(Error unknown). Eventually if the traffic spiked high enough the device would simply crash and reboot. Occasionally we'd see the inbound traffic fall to 12kb/s and all devices would start functioning perfectly. We have a few developer S4's and we even have a few employees with consumer S4's who reported the issue of their devices rebooting when on the company network.
So we were seeing this traffic on ALL of our devices yet it would only cause the S4's to behave this way.
So I have a few questions:
A) What the heck on our network could be broadcasting in such a way that all android devices would be receiving so much data.
B) How could network data literally crash an entire android system? The system should be protected from such things. (this leads me to believe there is currently an undiscovered bug in a recent software update for the S4, since even my S2 seems to gracefully handle these network spiked without a hitch.)
I'd love to try and set up a test bed to duplicate this issue on a network but I literally have no idea what could possibly be broadcasting in such a way that would cause all android devices to accept such a huge amount of inbound traffic. Any insight into what could be going on here would be very much appreciated!
Thanks for your time!
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We have many different devices here... Galaxy S2, Note 8, S3, Note II , S4 etc... Over the past few weeks we have had our Galaxy S4's start to run jittery, frequently begin displaying a message, "Can't play video" when attempting to play video loops in VideoView and random crashes/device reboots throughout the day. The strange thing was that we had many different S4's that mostly appeared to reboot at the exact same time. It also seemed like at about 4pm every day all of the issues would go away and return the next morning. It really had us banging our heads off a wall since this was effecting so many devices, however only S4's.
Eventually we found out what seems to be going on, although we are still unsure of why it is happening or why the other devices aren't seeing the same symptoms. We are convinced that this is two issue acting together... One with our network and the other with the S4 device itself.
We downloaded the app SystemPanelLite which shows us inbound and outbound network traffic as well as cpu usage. We ran numerous tests on many different networks and what we found was when we were our main company network the inbound traffic on EVERY device would constantly spike from 2.2mb/s - 3.2 mb/s which would cause the cpu to jump to high levels. We put a VideoView on a loop on one device, and on another device we would watch the inbound traffic on the network. Whenever the traffic would spike the video would start getting very jittery and even sometimes throw an OnError event with a what parameter of -1(Error unknown). Eventually if the traffic spiked high enough the device would simply crash and reboot. Occasionally we'd see the inbound traffic fall to 12kb/s and all devices would start functioning perfectly. We have a few developer S4's and we even have a few employees with consumer S4's who reported the issue of their devices rebooting when on the company network.
So we were seeing this traffic on ALL of our devices yet it would only cause the S4's to behave this way.
So I have a few questions:
A) What the heck on our network could be broadcasting in such a way that all android devices would be receiving so much data.
B) How could network data literally crash an entire android system? The system should be protected from such things. (this leads me to believe there is currently an undiscovered bug in a recent software update for the S4, since even my S2 seems to gracefully handle these network spiked without a hitch.)
I'd love to try and set up a test bed to duplicate this issue on a network but I literally have no idea what could possibly be broadcasting in such a way that would cause all android devices to accept such a huge amount of inbound traffic. Any insight into what could be going on here would be very much appreciated!
Thanks for your time!
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So we've actually found that there is a device on our network that is blasting crazy amounts of "Neighbour Advertisement" packets. We've tracked it to an iOS device but are unsure who's it is. Anyway, network traffic should not be able to completely crash devices into a reboot state, not too mention the amount of battery is being used simply by having the device on the network. This seems like a pretty big security flaw to me.
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So we've actually found that there is a device on our network that is blasting crazy amounts of "Neighbour Advertisement" packets. We've tracked it to an iOS device but are unsure who's it is. Anyway, network traffic should not be able to completely crash devices into a reboot state, not too mention the amount of battery is being used simply by having the device on the network. This seems like a pretty big security flaw to me.
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I would start by changing your WiFi keys, that should prevent the traffic. Then - before granting access to WiFi via the new key - All devices should be checked for Malware and anti Malware installed.
This traffic is a warning - what if it was a virus that the iOS device was transmitting?
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I would start by changing your WiFi keys, that should prevent the traffic. Then - before granting access to WiFi via the new key - All devices should be checked for Malware and anti Malware installed.
This traffic is a warning - what if it was a virus that the iOS device was transmitting?
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We have actually found out that it was instances of Hyper-V reacting badly together and sending out these packets due to the bug here: [grrr... apparently I'm not allowed to post links as a new user]
Regardless network traffic should not be capable of fully bringing down an Android System. All other devices even as old as the S2 did not crash under this load, why does the S4?
After an hour on the device it simply forgets it's connected. Even if I'm watching a movie it will stop aND say no connection. I've returned it once so I think it is software vs hardware. Anyone else?
Goofy
I had a 7.0 for a week and not one had problems
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Yeah mine does that also, not my fave, but I just turn the wifi off and then back on again. Sometimes it only stays on the wifi for 10 minutes! Hope there is a fix at some point.
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Seems like a Samsung issue....
Looks like all along the Galaxy lineup there are wifi issues.
I tried everything, preventing wifi from sleeping, using wifi fixer, nothing seems to work.
Sometimes my wifi will stay connected, the upload will work, but I get no download.
Rebooting wifi on quick toggle seems to only do the trick.
Have you all updated the software?
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Have you all updated the software?
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Yep, I updated to the latest software the moment I received the tab
Hmm, have you tried with more than one WiFi connection?
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Hmm, have you tried with more than one WiFi connection?
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Yep, seems to do it more often with a 5Ghz connection than 2.4 though.
None of my other 5Ghz devices (3 iPhones and an iPad) drop wifi.
Signal is on clearest channel available.
Pretty much isolated everything outside of this tablet.
I'm pretty techy with my home networking, so I'm at a loss with this one.
Yes, it has been updated and yes it has occurred on my home wifi, my work wifi, my doctor's office wifi, and unfortunately the hospital's wifi. All with the same outcome! My S5 doesn't do it nor did my S4 running Kit Kat.
So, still no fixes for this! As a previous poster now it is getting where if I'm playing a game it will drop after 10 minutes! I have power save off everything. While hitting the WIFI on off button works it is highly annoying! I want my WIFI all the time not when my tablet thinks I should!
Goofy
Think I have a solution http://tinyurl.com/nfbgxds
Hope 5th is will help out so far so good for me!
I just got this tab 4 7 inch last week and I am having the same problem with connections showing connected but not having any data transfer. The steps in the above link did not help for me.
I have updated to the latest firmware posted on sammobile, both the Canada version and the nook (BNN) version. Neither have made a difference.
I have found another thread in thisnforrum for this same problem, and there wasn't any solution there either.
I did find wha I think might be solution but haven't proofed it yet. in the build prop there was two "ro.carrier" lines. I think there is only supposed to be one, so I commented out one.
Original Example:
ro.carrier=wifi only
ro.carrier=unknown
Changed example:
ro.carrier=wifi only
#ro.carrier=unknown
If anybody can confirm this makes a difference or not please post results
EDIT::
After two weeks without problem anymore it appears the fix was the static IP address not the build prop change.
I found threads going back to at least 2007 about Samsung devices having trouble with dhcp and all the solutions being manually assign a static IP to the device.
Same issue here. Sometimes I have to cycle the WiFi every webpage!
Both of the above solutions didn't work for me, unfortunately.
Edit: Okay, I may have found the issue, at least for me. Turns out, the tablet was auto-assigning the same IP as my RasPi. After setting a static IP, everything looks okay from here. Hope this helps!
Changing to static IP did nothing, I was having to reset wifi on the tab every time I turned on the screen.
I even had wifi fixer constantly running.
Finally updated to NJ3 and everything is working properly.
Looks like it's a FW issue.
correction-
mrmazak said:
Example:
ro.carrier=wifi only
ro.carrier=unknown
Changed example:
ro.carrier=wifi only
#ro.carrier=unknown
If anybody can confirm this makes a difference or not please post results
EDIT::
After two weeks without problem anymore it appears the fix was the static IP address not the build prop change.
I found threads going back to at least 2007 about Samsung devices having trouble with dhcp and all the solutions being manually assign a static IP to the device.
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It should be one line:
ro.carrier=wifi-only
Script can be added however by attacting to the rom on the correct line parameters and scripting for digital on board configuration (no smart card) QMAL gsm, gprs, 3g, 4g, even lte or 5g, or 6g, no sim card required researve slot for world phone, or dual networking. The problem is each phone has to be separately programmed so cell companiesnhave walked away from needing higher qualified employees by switching to smart cards. Cost way less and employes way less people and note, your phone didnt cost you a penny less. I been doing cell phone tweaking since the motorolla brick was cool. Currently I used Samsung Galaxy Note 8010 64-bit 32 gig converted to XAC (its the industry's mobile payment recieveing device you see at bars, its made from the model previous mentioned)[to-wit-it says on their site not to tell anyone about]-or else- build then added Debian, Jessie. Then switched the imei to XAC, installed the telephony.manager.is_network_roaming=true along with the prpper scripting for the support and am hooked up to Sask-Tell. Once I got it connected and registered so it had a sign in address with the system i swutched the imei to all 000000000000's now they dont even send me a bill. But it works. The guy at the phone company couldnt even tell me where i was calling him from and he said my phone was disconnected while I was on the phone with him from the disconnected number. lmfao have a good day.
It seems that the current Android version on the LG G6 has that annoying wlan_rx_wake issue again. It keeps Android OS and Android System awake for hours (awake and CPU using) and makes nearly 25 percent of battery usage.
In this case Android is just reacting to broadcasts on WiFi but the way it handles it is simply bad. I created a guest network with my device only and this fixed the issue or it circumvents it. But since it's only an issue on LG's Android 7 and no other of my devices has it, it must be a bug.
Is there a settings to ignore broadcasts more aggressively? I've no root fore some reasons.
I've been there myself and have posted what little progress I've made in the Standby drain thread. I don't think this is a problem specific to LG's Android 7 nor do I think it is LG's or Android 7's problem on their own. I thought this affected most (if not all) devices using any modern release of Android when connected to a "noisy" network, but don't quote me on that. I've had this problem on several different android devices running different distributions of Android, including the G6 running both Stock and AOSP-based 7.X ROMs. However, most of my other devices had a custom kernel that did allow me to block this wakelock. It's any easy fix that I've implemented myself in the G6's stock kernel by adding a few lines to LG's publicly released source code, which effectively got rid of wlan_rx_wake for me by changing a setting on my phone. I assume that you say you don't have root not because of personal preference but because you have an unlockable bootloader. If the latter is the case, this kernel fix wouldn't apply to you. You may be able to fix the issue on the other end though. If this happens in your own personal network you might just have to disable a problematic app in a device connected to it or change a router setting. If, however, this happens in an institutional network that you can't control and that a lot of people simultaneously access, you'll have a harder time working around it. In any case, ditching DHCP for a static IP and disabling IPv6 could help. It might also be worth analyzing your network traffic with a packet sniffer and checking what is waking your device. If it turns out be a single or a handful of devices sending packets throughout your network and you don't have access to them, you might be able to block and/or ignore them by running some custom iptables scripts on a firewall app (not sure if this feature is available without root access). I'm assuming that by creating a guest-net you isolated your phone from all of these alleged requests circulating in your main network and that's why your phone isn't woken up as often,. I'm not 100% sure we're facing the same problem nor that any of this could be of any hep at all. Be sure to let us know if you find a fix for this. Cheers!