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Hello everybody, and happy new year! (kinda late )
My question is, that which phone is better. What do you think about these phones and do you have some experience with these phones??
There are a lot phones at the price around 230$, but these are one of the best ones for that price. (I think)
I prefer Galaxy S3 Neo, because of its functions and because is not that big as ZenFone 5, and because of its Android. ZenUI is not that bad on ASUS, but there is almost everything new and you need accustom to it. What I "hate" on the ASUS is design of the phone, but it doesn't matter. On hardware I think ASUS is better, but in camera not, it doesn't have that nice quality pictures and on S3 Neo look better. I will be happy If you post some about these phones what do you think is better and if you have some experience with it, if it is lagging or something like that. Just If you're happy with that phone (if you own it). I don't understand a lot a technology and I'm not expert , sorry for my english and hope you will post something. Thank to everybody.
Zenfone has 2 cores at 1.6Ghz and the S3 neo has 4 cores at 1.2/1.4Ghz. I dont know about cpu cores in mobile devices so i cant tell if those +2 cores are something wow.
ZenFone 5
Laurisss said:
Zenfone has 2 cores at 1.6Ghz and the S3 neo has 4 cores at 1.2/1.4Ghz. I dont know about cpu cores in mobile devices so i cant tell if those +2 cores are something wow.
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Yes, it is true, but everybody says that its "behaving" as quad core 1,6 GHz... (btw. S3 Neo in my country has 1,4 GHZ CPU)
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Yes, it is true, but everybody says that its "behaving" as quad core 1,6 GHz... (btw. S3 Neo in my country has 1,4 GHZ CPU)
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Well antutu says its 22k and the s3 neo is about 20k points. So probably take the zenfone 5 because of the bigger screen but i dont know if it matches the s3 neo in multitasking and general speed. Is it like "Zenfone 5 has an intel cpu with 2 that matches an amd cpu with 4 cores"?
I would always prefer to take qcom device because there is huge support from codeaurora and google ....
Also 1.4 x 4 ghz > 1.6 x 2 ghz , AMOLED > IPS ...
Well, I'm mostly listening to music, sometimes play games (games like Clash of Clans and more...) and browse YT or internet, so I don't think that I need some great multitasking. BTW. I have heard. that ZenFone 5's battery at Android KitKat is really draining... ASUS's Intel CPU is not acting like dual-core, there are some enhanced functions, so it's like quad-core. Also, ZenFone gets Lollipop on April, but i don't think that I need it too much . If you look at GSMArena, people are really happy with S3 Neo, but ZenFone, everybody talking about bad battery, and camera... - So, may I choose S3 Neo?
You can post some other phones for that price, for example some other brands, S3 Neo and ZenFone 5 are the most liked for that price in my country.
I'm not using my phone for games, I need some great phone, which has good battery life, big RAM (because I have a lot of apps on the background) and camera too.... it will be good, if it has some new Android (Lollipop).
Hi all,
I just bought a note 4 sd 805 (the UK version). I expected this to be a very powerful phone, but instead I am kind of disappointed .
After playing Asphalt 8 for just 15min, the game starts to lag considerably and suffer from some serious frame rate drop.
The phone itself heats up a bit, but not a lot.
I also noticed that, if I run antutu for say 5 times in a row (with no pause), the score will drop from about 48000 to about 38000.
I still keep my note 3, which is rock solid and did not have the above behaviour (i.e. no heat at all, I can play asphalt 8 for hours with perfect quality and consistent antutu scores of about 43000).
Also my pvs is 13, which seems to be quite a good one (as per this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4/general/info-check-share-cpu-binning-t2950180)
Do you guys think I have a faulty note 4? Should I return it?
Thanks
I dont think that you has a faulty note. Same here with s5 and sd 801 runing gta vc. In about 20 mins of gaming fps drops horrible
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Thanks,
but if the latest generation of phones cannot handle tasks (i.e. games) which the previous generation (note 3 in my case) handled with easy,
doesn't that mean the the phone is not fit for purpose?
In my case I paid £580 and expected to see some improvements. The only true improvement (compare with note 3) is the camera.
The game performance is awful.
The display seems to be brighter (on auto and against direct sun light), but if I actually want to use it like that, it starts heating up and throttle after 15min.
In normal tasks (browsing and light apps) note 3 and note 4 perform on par, with sometimes note 3 being faster.
I also ran the stress test app, and it seems that the note 4 does not stay on 2.7 at all. it starts with 2.4 then quickly goes to 2.2 and 1.9 and after a few minutes it goes down to 1.1 and it stays there. My note 3 on the other hand starts with 2.27 and stays there for few minutes then goes down to 1.9 and 1.7 and then it stays between 1.5 and 1.7.
So, under heavy load snapdragon 805 perform worst than 800. Please note that the SD in my unit has the perfect binning of pvs13. The SD 800 in my note 3 is pvs 2 and it is still way more stable.
I just want to know if you guys have similar experience with the phone?
mitko76 said:
Thanks,
but if the latest generation of phones cannot handle tasks (i.e. games) which the previous generation (note 3 in my case) handled with easy,
doesn't that mean the the phone is not fit for purpose?
In my case I paid £580 and expected to see some improvements. The only true improvement (compare with note 3) is the camera.
The game performance is awful.
The display seems to be brighter (on auto and against direct sun light), but if I actually want to use it like that, it starts heating up and throttle after 15min.
In normal tasks (browsing and light apps) note 3 and note 4 perform on par, with sometimes note 3 being faster.
I also ran the stress test app, and it seems that the note 4 does not stay on 2.7 at all. it starts with 2.4 then quickly goes to 2.2 and 1.9 and after a few minutes it goes down to 1.1 and it stays there. My note 3 on the other hand starts with 2.27 and stays there for few minutes then goes down to 1.9 and 1.7 and then it stays between 1.5 and 1.7.
So, under heavy load snapdragon 805 perform worst than 800. Please note that the SD in my unit has the perfect binning of pvs13. The SD 800 in my note 3 is pvs 2 and it is still way more stable.
I just want to know if you guys have similar experience with the phone?
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You right bro.
You can manage your thermals with custom kernel. Its a know problem, even in the lg g3 forum theres a mod to raise the values of throttle.
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mitko76 said:
Hi all,
I just bought a note 4 sd 805 (the UK version). I expected this to be a very powerful phone, but instead I am kind of disappointed .
After p.....
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Disable DVFS (just for the laggy games if your phone doesn't freeze and restart) and asphalt will be perfect. You can also run games in 1080 which helps and be grateful as there are kernels supported by your phone's version that you can mess with the thermal throttle and gpu clocks. Just don't let it get too hot
I agree with you, there should be no tweaks needed to run any game, but that's unfortunately not the case, but with some work you can get it to perfect performance! Good luck!
How's the gameplay on the Exynos variant? I never had gaming issues on the Note 2
@arjun90
exynos is way better at gaming
its not laggy in asphalt 8 even after 15 minutes
On sd805 asphalt 8 is just unplayable.. it does not work well from the first minute (I mean as good as my sd800 note 3)
and after about 15min it becomes even worst.
and that is with sd805 binned 13.. My first note 4 (which I returned) was getting hot just from web browsing. I am sure the cpu was with low quality bin.
Samsung should get rid of this low quality cpus.. We pay some serious money and at the end it is just a lottery...
I am also seriously disappointed with the awful deteriorating game performance. For a phone of this price and calibre I was expecting so much more. I hope it is software related and can be fixed, but I don't want to melt my phone!
I have Canadian SM-N910W8 with SD805 and 420 Adreno just tried asphalt 8 its running fast at high setting even with power saving on. Also scored Atutu 47923.
Anyone tried Wolf among us? Game won't start after title screen?
Tiberx said:
I have Canadian SM-N910W8 with SD805 and 420 Adreno just tried asphalt 8 its running fast at high setting even with power saving on. Also scored Atutu 47923.
Anyone tried Wolf among us? Game won't start after title screen?
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well I don't know what to say mate I have the same cpu and gpu, Antutu for me is even above 48000 regularly about 48700
still asphalt 8 is just pretty much unplayable.. Some other games however are ok. Hope it is a software issue and sammy/app developer(gameloft) fix it.
I am non rooted and fully stock..
Have you try to greenify everything then run the game? I think it probably software.
I'm rooted but using my original stock image as base with extras - fixed everything working. Took me a while but good trends here before had lots of issues.
Yes i agree with that games like asphalt should play smooth without installing custom rom.. It is really awful.. But now after flashing kernel and flashed rom it runs smoooottthh!..
it is the first android phone I am reluctant to root (at least for now). Lollipop is coming very soon and I prefer to see what it will bring to my note.
If if works for you guys (after rooting and possibly applying custom kernel and some modifications) it is sammy fault and not the game developer. It is really frustrating. Hope sammy fix this mess soon.
Yet again blaming the chip on what is clearly a not optimized game for the 805. Software is the problem. Ya know if the game isn't optimized for that chip it will run like ****, if they update for this phone and it still runs ****ty than they did a bad job.
Hi ive running the 1st version of asphalt 8 on my phone for about 20 min without any lags.Might be the games are not optimised yet
Edit:Just Noticed that the graphic settings to medium & high are not available which is very strange
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Hi ive running the 1st version of asphalt 8 on my phone for about 20 min without any lags.Might be the games are not optimised yet
Edit:Just Noticed that the graphic settings to medium & high are not available which is very strange
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I have noticed that any game with graphic options become unplayable after setting anything higher them low. ie. GTA SA.
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I have noticed that any game with graphic options become unplayable after setting anything higher them low. ie. GTA SA.
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True,ive also set resolution to 70 with everything else to minimum or off in GTA SA.My Note 3 is way better gaming wise
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RISHI RAJ said:
Hi ive running the 1st version of asphalt 8 on my phone for about 20 min without any lags.Might be the games are not optimised yet
Edit:Just Noticed that the graphic settings to medium & high are not available which is very strange
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bizarre.. for me the medium & high settings are available.. it just the game itself kind of unplayable.
the fact that some users report that the issue is fixable with root and custom kernel gives some hope.
The Lenovo Vibe P1 just launched a week ago,
Thinking to buy this device but,
It seems rumor mill has already started churning, about the device facing a "Heating issue".
The device is pretty great for a low ranged smartphone with,
Android v5.1 (Lollipop) OS
4900mAh, Quick Charge
Fingerprint Reader NFC
13 MP PDAF f2.2 Camera
5 MP f2.8 Camera
Dual Sim (LTE + LTE)
5.5 inch FHD 1080p Touchscreen
1.5 GHz Snapdragon 615 64-bit Octa Core Processor
Expandable Storage Capacity of 128 GB
can someone who owns/ knows someone who does/ or expert reviewer , shed some light about this device's issues, especially the heating one? Thanks in advance
I am using one.. Got it yesterday only.. Using it continuously, but No heating issues till now.. But I don't play games and hence ymmv..
Could you test it with some standard games like Clash Of Clans, Asphalt or Modern Combat?
The Heating issue is over hyped on various sites, scared to buy it because of that.
Not Much of a Heater
The phone even after serious gaming for upto 45 mins doesnt go above 44-45 degs (Celcius). Dont worry, I was worried too, saw the gaming review with temp, & then placed the order. I'll be getting mine in a couple of days.
Thanks, was badly worried with the reviews saying the Lenovo Vibe P1 heats upto 50-55 Celsius on long calls and gaming.
how to root this??
Thank
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AniRaje said:
The Lenovo Vibe P1 just launched a week ago,
Thinking to buy this device but,
It seems rumor mill has already started churning, about the device facing a "Heating issue".
The device is pretty great for a low ranged smartphone with,
Android v5.1 (Lollipop) OS
4900mAh, Quick Charge
Fingerprint Reader NFC
13 MP PDAF f2.2 Camera
5 MP f2.8 Camera
Dual Sim (LTE + LTE)
5.5 inch FHD 1080p Touchscreen
1.5 GHz Snapdragon 615 64-bit Octa Core Processor
Expandable Storage Capacity of 128 GB
can someone who owns/ knows someone who does/ or expert reviewer , shed some light about this device's issues, especially the heating one? Thanks in advance
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Thank
How to root ??
I really want to root this phone
I tried kingroot and iRoot applications
Can anyone suggest a proper way to root this phone ?
Is there a separate FAST CHARGING option for charging?
or it's a separate cable or something?
I am using this phone and the only tim I get this heated up is when it is charging .... but again not more than 45 - 46 .. so this is a good phone and worth the money spent
Fantastic fone for the price. Cost me less than 200 dollars equivilant coupled with an exchange. Good performance. Excellent battery life. Fast charging. Colors and hues not as good as an OPO. Looks quite OK.
5.1.1 out of the box.
Hope developers develop interest in building Custom RoMs, other development support.
unlock bootloader and root for lenovo p1
any rooting method for vibe p1 available?
waiting for someone to port CM12 for pure android experience and overclocking
Problems with my lenovo vibe p1
1st impressions on the phone are good but then later i started to phase some problems like frame drop on ANDROID LOLLIPOP GAME and 2 CARS can not believe this cause a phone with 2gb RAM and octa core 1.5ghz
can not deal with frame drops and one more thing is that when the phone is at low brightness the display starts flickering. ANY SOLUTION FOR THIS?!?!
PLEASE HELP!!! CAUSE I GOTTA REPLACE MY PHONE!!!
The battery life is excellent. After enabling the developer options, there is an option to enable bootloader unlock just like in one plus one. Anyone tried that?
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kanagadeepan said:
The battery life is excellent. After enabling the developer options, there is an option to enable bootloader unlock just like in one plus one. Anyone tried that?
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I turned this switch on, and tried "fastboot oem unlock", but got "FAILED (remote: oem unlock is not allowed)"
Gryroscope
Guys can u check whether YOUTUBE 360 videos are working properly with out and screen shake??
hi if anyone want to try rooting this phone ,just download the software from the link below and try.i can not try this as i dont own this phone but will purchase soon.
http://www.srsroot.com/news
just go to downloads tab and it will download the software.just down load and install it.run it as admin, connect your device and use root device(all method) .
i found this while browing the net.please revert if it helps.
I tried srs root for my lenovo p1 pro, but it doesn't go for me!
As we've posted before, most heating is normal, as phones give off heat when using power or when charging.
crystallet wrote:
Honestly, I don't think there's a problem. Newer phones, with more powerful processors and functions, running more demanding apps, run warmer than older models. We need to know the temperature of the phone that the user thinks is too hot to see if the phone is running within operating specifications.
People who change phones every year will probably not be surprised by today's warmer-running phones. People who have used the same phone for two years or more, probably will be.
And yes, warming is normal. But we want to help you get used to the way these newer phones run.
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Arey yar just stop posting here. If you post then make some sense of it. Motorola knows our problems. They are searching for a solution. Finally I say don't post silly comments over here.
Hey guys,
First of all pardon me for the length of this post. I have been following this thread for almost 2 weeks now. And all the statements, made by the senior members/moderators of this forum have been to the same effect, most heating is normal. Infact, one of the senior members even went on to say that he/she would help us get used to the way these newer phones ran! So i decided to find out for myself if this is how the newer phones ran. And as some of our Indian friends blamed us of over-reacting, i also needed to find out, are we posting silly comments? Does motorola really know our problems and are we hindering their 'solution finding'? Lets find out...
Below is the list of some the branded phones in budget segment(except oneplus 3,which i will explain later y i included) that have released in the last one year or so. All these phones were tested by the same person(geekyranjit) under the same conditions. The test was to measure the temperature of these phones after gaming on them for 10-12 minutes. All the tests were done using the same games. Lets find out how normal is our phone compared to other newer phones..
Oneplus 3
Snapdragon 820(Dual-core 2.15 GHz Kryo & dual-core 1.6 GHz Kryo)
Current price: ₹27999
Front: 42.0
Back : 41.6(went to 43 in asphalt 8)
Leeco/Letv le2
Snapdragon 652 (Quad-core 1.4 GHz Cortex-A53 & Quad-core 1.8 GHz Cortex-A72)
Current price: ₹11999
Front: 40.1
Back : 40.5
Xiaomi redmi note 3
Snapdragon 650(Quad-core 1.4 GHz Cortex-A53 & Dual-core 1.8 GHz Cortex-A72)
Current price: ₹11999(32 gb)
Front : 43.6
Back(Aluminium): 38.3
Moto G turbo
Snapdragon 615(Quad-core 1.5 GHz Cortex-A53 & quad-core 1.0 GHz Cortex-A53)
Current price: ₹12499
Front : 41.7
Back : 42.0
Lenovo K4 Note
Mediatek MT6753(Octa-core 1.3 GHz Cortex-A53)
Current price: ₹11999
Front : 43.3
Back : 43.5
Lenovo Zuk z1
Snapdragon 801(Quad-core 2.5 GHz Krait 400)
Current price: ₹13499
Front 43.5
Back 44.3
Lenovo Moto g4 plus
Snapdragon 617(Quad-core 1.5 GHz Cortex-A53 & quad-core 1.2 GHz Cortex-A53)
Current price: ₹14999
Front 45.5(paticularly hot at top)
Back 44.2
Ash from c4etech got 48.6 degree at front top after 30 minutes of gaming. Abhinav from phonebunch got 47.1 degree in the front and 50.3 degree at the back while gaming for 15 minutes without an AC on but in indoor conditions.
Please Note:
All the tests are done indoors under an AC with an ambient temperature of 27-28 degrees, unless specified otherwise. So heatwave has nothing to do with these temperatures.(Not getting personal, just clarifying)
One plus 3 does not fall under the 'budget' smartphone category but i included it in the list because it uses the latest and the most powerful chipset in the midrange smartphone segment. So if such heat was normal in today's faster processors, this phone should exhibit the most heat.
Conclusion:
All Lenovo phones heat quite a bit more than the other smartphones in this category and that is why probably moderators think that such heat is normal. But no branded phone heats as much as moto g4 plus, not even lenovo's other devices in this segment. So how many of u guys think that this is all normal? Except for oneplus 3 every phone in this list is cheaper than moto g4 plus and most of them have almost the same specs. Do u still think that we are over-reacting and everything is normal with this phone?
and yes they give quick charge 1.0??**** moto
yeah this phone has heating issue, I think the main reason is processor, any intensive processor using apps will heat it up quickly, in 10 minutes and I don't think this could be solved with software update, this is bad because it will lower the life of phone, so in my opinion if you haven't got this phone yet, don't buy it, get redmi note 3 3gb ram instead
i already got it just today but i am normal user...fb whatsapp and coc just
I tested with 'Made In China' and 'Made in India' g4+....quite obviously Indian Device is getting more warmer in less time and even Display is not bright enough when compared to Chinese(Original).
What I'm trying to say is people I saw who are worrying too much about the heating issue are owners of "Made in India". Mine is working fine after the Initial update but getting little warmer after playing too much(I play Nova, asphalt) but I can live with this..
So check your device manufacturer .. and I can say if you bought recently(and got USB charger) then it is Indian and If you purchased at earlier it is Chinese
PS: Mine is chinese..not Indian (check your device box for Name of Manufacturer to know)
ReX-Hell2heAven said:
I tested with 'Made In China' and 'Made in India' g4+....quite obviously Indian Device is getting more warmer in less time and even Display is not bright enough when compared to Chinese(Original).
What I'm trying to say is people I saw who are worrying too much about the heating issue are owners of "Made in India". Mine is working fine after the Initial update but getting little warmer after playing too much(I play Nova, asphalt) but I can live with this..
So check your device manufacturer .. and I can say if you bought recently(and got USB charger) then it is Indian and If you purchased at earlier it is Chinese
PS: Mine is chinese..not Indian (check your device box for Name of Manufacturer to know)
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Bro mine is a chinese one ....... But have found the reason for overheating during turbo charging......... Check out my thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/themes/cracked-reason-moto-g4-heats-turbo-t3403612
And ya over heating upto 45°C is just fine its some thing thats common between my
octacore,3gbram moto g4+
Quadcore,1gb ram sony xperia e3d2212
And quadcore,also 1gb ram hp 7 voicetab.......
Its pretty much common in evryphone now a days
But would like to mention something that i had experienced with my xperia e3
Its that after i rooted it and got rid of a few actually a lot of system apps i dint notice overheating in it evn while playing games like MC4 for almost 3hours continuously with my charger plugged it......
In case of moto g4+ therz no bloatware too(very very less bloatware)so it just might be the chance of over usage...etc....apart from the time of gaming and turbo charging i dont really think the phone heats up to a level that u would have to worry(like 3g all day long with whatsapp snapchat and instagram running all day long)......
wanted to know
ReX-Hell2heAven said:
I tested with 'Made In China' and 'Made in India' g4+....quite obviously Indian Device is getting more warmer in less time and even Display is not bright enough when compared to Chinese(Original).
What I'm trying to say is people I saw who are worrying too much about the heating issue are owners of "Made in India". Mine is working fine after the Initial update but getting little warmer after playing too much(I play Nova, asphalt) but I can live with this..
So check your device manufacturer .. and I can say if you bought recently(and got USB charger) then it is Indian and If you purchased at earlier it is Chinese
PS: Mine is chinese..not Indian (check your device box for Name of Manufacturer to know)
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i want to buy this device from amazon but i worried wether i get a indian made or china made version. i wnt to know is indian version is worth buying cos of dull white display and less powerful charger ???
Xiaomi decided to make a trick on us, and I think that might be even called a sort of scam - yet, my accusations may seem without proper argumentation quite invalid, so let's begin.
I bought this phone in a 6/128 version a month ago, as a successor to my previous experience with Xiaomi devices - The Redmi note 4(Mido). Immediately after unpacking it and installing latest OTA updates I ran AnTuTu benchmark in order to ensure myself whether it's a good upgrade or not(deciding factor was processor - whopping 2.35 GHz and GPU should be at least 1.5x as good as Snapdragon 625 had to offer). Average scores varied around 160k, while my device was... 95k. I didn't believe it's this bad, so I ran a few highly demanding titles(such as PUBG) and my fears rendered to be true. Everything was worse than my old Mido, with price tag twice as high! Not to even mention that battery life was sensibly worse, though capacity is almost identical.
This triggered the first red flag.
I made hard reset, and AnTuTu rose to 130k. I still didn't accept that state of matter, so I basically unlocked it, flashed TWRP and LineageOS. Results were... Non-existent. Yet, I decided to use it for some time because of just my pure love to LOS.
Things started getting... BAD. My phone started to literally bake itself(80°C avg) when screen was unlocked, causing thermal throttling which only made performance worse.
As soon as MIUI 10 came up I decided to say "f*** it" and return the phone to original state. I flashed the stock ROM, overwrote TWRP and started using it again.
I thought this update is a solution to all of my problems, but general ****ty performance seemed to happen each time the charger was connected instead. Google Pay didn't work as well because by device was "rooted", so I installed TWRP with Magisk just to make it work and terrible truth came to my eyes.
This update basically CLOCKED DOWN THE CPU.
On battery, all cores were underclocked to Snapdragon 820 clocks(2.35->2.15;2.1->1.6GHz) while connecting to charge makes all cores go at 1132 MHz, and GPU to 132 MHz - that's slower than Snapdragon 400!
Luckily, the performance on battery can be changed with root, but on charger - it's stuck on 1.1GHz.
Why do I write it all here?
I want to ask you guys if my data is the same as yours, and to ask bigger brains for a possible way to take control over clock when charging. This is frustrating to face performance throttling in such way - Is Xiaomi copying from Apple even their battery policy? I bought this phone only because of the CPU.
Thanks for any advice :angel:
You can always try a custom kernel that has all the tools to tweak your phone's performance.
I found that for my own use MIUI 10 is better than any other custom rom at the moment, including Oreo based examples, but that's just me and how I use the phone. I have it for a year now (4/64 international version) and still happy with it. Couldn't care less about the benchmark scores as long as my experience is lag free without overheating and enough battery life to get me through a day and a bit.
I found that occasionally I need to reboot it just to "reset" the OS and get battery performance where it should be.
Thanks for any advice :angel:
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I'm running Xiaomi.eu weekly 8.9.20 MIUI 10 Android 8.0 with no problems on the international version 6/128.
Looking at the cpu cores in AIDA64 there seems to be no problems, last I checked with antutu (several versions back) it was fine.
You should be thankfull for thermal throttelling, when charging for example.
I do not recommend quickcharging on any phone.
The Mi Note 2 does not have well implemented cooling apparently, you can damage the motherboard if running too hot for too long.
There is a quite detailed informative thread on the MIUI forum about this:
http://en.miui.com/thread-2541123-1-1.html
So perhaps not the best choice for extreme gaming, otherwise fine.
hypixus said:
Xiaomi decided to make a trick on us, and I think that might be even called a sort of scam - yet, my accusations may seem without proper argumentation quite invalid, so let's begin.
I bought this phone in a 6/128 version a month ago, as a successor to my previous experience with Xiaomi devices - The Redmi note 4(Mido). Immediately after unpacking it and installing latest OTA updates I ran AnTuTu benchmark in order to ensure myself whether it's a good upgrade or not(deciding factor was processor - whopping 2.35 GHz and GPU should be at least 1.5x as good as Snapdragon 625 had to offer). Average scores varied around 160k, while my device was... 95k. I didn't believe it's this bad, so I ran a few highly demanding titles(such as PUBG) and my fears rendered to be true. Everything was worse than my old Mido, with price tag twice as high! Not to even mention that battery life was sensibly worse, though capacity is almost identical.
This triggered the first red flag.
I made hard reset, and AnTuTu rose to 130k. I still didn't accept that state of matter, so I basically unlocked it, flashed TWRP and LineageOS. Results were... Non-existent. Yet, I decided to use it for some time because of just my pure love to LOS.
Things started getting... BAD. My phone started to literally bake itself(80°C avg) when screen was unlocked, causing thermal throttling which only made performance worse.
As soon as MIUI 10 came up I decided to say "f*** it" and return the phone to original state. I flashed the stock ROM, overwrote TWRP and started using it again.
I thought this update is a solution to all of my problems, but general ****ty performance seemed to happen each time the charger was connected instead. Google Pay didn't work as well because by device was "rooted", so I installed TWRP with Magisk just to make it work and terrible truth came to my eyes.
This update basically CLOCKED DOWN THE CPU.
On battery, all cores were underclocked to Snapdragon 820 clocks(2.35->2.15;2.1->1.6GHz) while connecting to charge makes all cores go at 1132 MHz, and GPU to 132 MHz - that's slower than Snapdragon 400!
Luckily, the performance on battery can be changed with root, but on charger - it's stuck on 1.1GHz.
Why do I write it all here?
I want to ask you guys if my data is the same as yours, and to ask bigger brains for a possible way to take control over clock when charging. This is frustrating to face performance throttling in such way - Is Xiaomi copying from Apple even their battery policy? I bought this phone only because of the CPU.
Thanks for any advice :angel:
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Too right mate.
After firmware update, this device became a ****ty one.
I've been using Lineage with 8.5.24 firmware and it was "OK". My old Zuk Z2 was still better (faster and better battery life).
Now, with 9.xx firmware, this Mi Note 2 is pure garbage.
I'm waiting for a stable Lineage 16 to decide if I keep this device or buy another one.
One thing is sure: I'll never buy any Xiaomi devices again.
Later my device very similiar problem with you, then i update to miui 10 global stable, with twrp and magisk applied and still have problem when intense playing game becoming hot above 60 degrees. I tweak with kernel aduitor try to lock each core big.LITTLE max at 1500 mhz and delete thermal throttling in system/vendor/etc then my device perform smooth and acceptable temp with longer battery.
Im not into benchmarking with antutu just play with PUBG mobile I get high and stable fps with no hot temperature which is actually good.
piway said:
Later my device very similiar problem with you, then i update to miui 10 global stable, with twrp and magisk applied and still have problem when intense playing game becoming hot above 60 degrees. I tweak with kernel aduitor try to lock each core big.LITTLE max at 1500 mhz and delete thermal throttling in system/vendor/etc then my device perform smooth and acceptable temp with longer battery.
Im not into benchmarking with antutu just play with PUBG mobile I get high and stable fps with no hot temperature which is actually good.
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did you use any custom kernel for tweaking or just the default one? and may i know what ROM did you use?
hypixus said:
Xiaomi decided to make a trick on us, and I think that might be even called a sort of scam - yet, my accusations may seem without proper argumentation quite invalid, so let's begin.
I bought this phone in a 6/128 version a month ago, as a successor to my previous experience with Xiaomi devices - The Redmi note 4(Mido). Immediately after unpacking it and installing latest OTA updates I ran AnTuTu benchmark in order to ensure myself whether it's a good upgrade or not(deciding factor was processor - whopping 2.35 GHz and GPU should be at least 1.5x as good as Snapdragon 625 had to offer). Average scores varied around 160k, while my device was... 95k. I didn't believe it's this bad, so I ran a few highly demanding titles(such as PUBG) and my fears rendered to be true. Everything was worse than my old Mido, with price tag twice as high! Not to even mention that battery life was sensibly worse, though capacity is almost identical.
This triggered the first red flag.
I made hard reset, and AnTuTu rose to 130k. I still didn't accept that state of matter, so I basically unlocked it, flashed TWRP and LineageOS. Results were... Non-existent. Yet, I decided to use it for some time because of just my pure love to LOS.
Things started getting... BAD. My phone started to literally bake itself(80°C avg) when screen was unlocked, causing thermal throttling which only made performance worse.
As soon as MIUI 10 came up I decided to say "f*** it" and return the phone to original state. I flashed the stock ROM, overwrote TWRP and started using it again.
I thought this update is a solution to all of my problems, but general ****ty performance seemed to happen each time the charger was connected instead. Google Pay didn't work as well because by device was "rooted", so I installed TWRP with Magisk just to make it work and terrible truth came to my eyes.
This update basically CLOCKED DOWN THE CPU.
On battery, all cores were underclocked to Snapdragon 820 clocks(2.35->2.15;2.1->1.6GHz) while connecting to charge makes all cores go at 1132 MHz, and GPU to 132 MHz - that's slower than Snapdragon 400!
Luckily, the performance on battery can be changed with root, but on charger - it's stuck on 1.1GHz.
Why do I write it all here?
I want to ask you guys if my data is the same as yours, and to ask bigger brains for a possible way to take control over clock when charging. This is frustrating to face performance throttling in such way - Is Xiaomi copying from Apple even their battery policy? I bought this phone only because of the CPU.
Thanks for any advice :angel:
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I am in agreement with you in everything, I also checked it. The solution for me, after trying roms based on Miui was to change a custom rom. And with Aosp Ext. I'm doing very well.
You don't need to try a custom ROM.
Just follow the steps mentioned in this video to activate the PERFORMANCE mode and you'll be fine:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5gKKk2BGIM
Kind regards,
Lexx
we shouldnt need outside apps or tweaks to get this phone running..maybe thats why xiaomi leave it behind..for me its running fine, i dont play intensive games, only top eleven and works fine, heats to 38º maximum..battery SOT is about 5-6 hours all day but i need to charge it at the end of the day..im running MIUI 10 xiaomi.eu 9.4.25, dark mode ,all black..nice..great sound,****ty camera at night..worst that i ever had..day time decent photos, not for this price tag..for sure...
smokerman said:
we shouldnt need outside apps or tweaks to get this phone running..maybe thats why xiaomi leave it behind..for me its running fine, i dont play intensive games, only top eleven and works fine, heats to 38º maximum..battery SOT is about 5-6 hours all day but i need to charge it at the end of the day..im running MIUI 10 xiaomi.eu 9.4.25, dark mode ,all black..nice..great sound,****ty camera at night..worst that i ever had..day time decent photos, not for this price tag..for sure...
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Latest Gcam works great, also night photos.
But you have to tweak the settings to get it to work well and not FC.
Arnova's Advanced 1.5: GCam_6.1.021_Advanced_V1.5.190418.1850.apk (Arnova8G2, 2019-04-18, configs, changelog)
What kind of "the settings"? Could you explain it please?
Peanut2R said:
did you use any custom kernel for tweaking or just the default one? and may i know what ROM did you use?
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Looks like there isn't a custom kernel which is working with latest MIUI version
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