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Tab 7.7 AT&T LTE version

We all saw the Verizon version will soon be on sale but has anyway read anything about a possible AT&T version? I kind of a recall a while back some article saying it went through FCC with AT&T frequencies but it may have been confused with the Galaxy Plus...

Alcibiade said:
We all saw the Verizon version will soon be on sale but has anyway read anything about a possible AT&T version? I kind of a recall a while back some article saying it went through FCC with AT&T frequencies but it may have been confused with the Galaxy Plus...
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Never, ever, EVER, EVER, EVER buy a device which has been carrier subsidized!

Jade Eyed Wolf said:
Never, ever, EVER, EVER, EVER buy a device which has been carrier subsidized!
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While I agree that you should always buy an unlocked phone if possible, if he wants ATT LTE (4G) he's kinda stuck with buying it from them.

Ricey said:
While I agree that you should always buy an unlocked phone if possible, if he wants ATT LTE (4G) he's kinda stuck with buying it from them.
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True... For now... At least until manufacturers start making unlocked multi-band LTE devices.
Besides, with LTE not being unlimited, it's kinda pointless at this stage. Let the technology (and rate plans) mature a bit more first.

If you must really have the LTE then I would wait for either Verizon or ATT version. But remember you wont have phone capabilities with the Verizon or ATT version.
I am using ATT Go Phone Prepaid on my 7.7. I am in NY and the data speeds are actually pretty fast. I average about 4-6mbps download speeds. Web pages load very fast. For me its good enough.

Yeah, while LTE speeds are amazing, at present I don't have a whole lot of use for them on a tablet. I suppose one should really determine if they need to use it for video streaming/conferencing where there is no WiFi. Otherwise, 3G suffices for most casual use.
The US could actually do with a bit more oversight and regulation in this area so we could use LTE without having to worry about asinine limitations.

Jade Eyed Wolf said:
Never, ever, EVER, EVER, EVER buy a device which has been carrier subsidized!
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I bought my original Tab from AT&T but didn't buy the subsidized version...
Anyway although I understand it has downsides since the IMEI is in the database of the carrier (Yeah it costed me my unlimited plan last year...) t doesn't create that many problems after a bit of clean-up (I use a derivative of CM7.2 (Boca) and also unlocked the device)
Anyway go for he international if you wish, on my side I would really like to have the IR port (No saying the AT&T version will have it but oping for it). And if you want to enjoy LTE speeds just forget about the international version
Anyway... waiting for more versions to be out worldwide in order to pick the best one for me

spridell said:
If you must really have the LTE then I would wait for either Verizon or ATT version. But remember you wont have phone capabilities with the Verizon or ATT version.
I am using ATT Go Phone Prepaid on my 7.7. I am in NY and the data speeds are actually pretty fast. I average about 4-6mbps download speeds. Web pages load very fast. For me its good enough.
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Verizon no thanks... I travel extensively outside the US and want to be able to use my Tab abroad
For the AT&T version I don't know if it will have voice enabled or not. That's why I am asking i anybody has any news about it. I am curious to see if it has voice enabled or the IR port. Just remember the initial Tab on AT&T was not offciially voice capable but this was fixed quite easily...
Again I am more into checking my options than purchasing anything. My original Tab is actually pretty fast and if my battery life was not getting more and more scarce I would probably wait a while before buying anything new

Alcibiade said:
Verizon no thanks... I travel extensively outside the US and want to be able to use my Tab abroad
For the AT&T version I don't know if it will have voice enabled or not. That's why I am asking i anybody has any news about it. I am curious to see if it has voice enabled or the IR port. Just remember the initial Tab on AT&T was not offciially voice capable but this was fixed quite easily...
Again I am more into checking my options than purchasing anything. My original Tab is actually pretty fast and if my battery life was not getting more and more scarce I would probably wait a while before buying anything new
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I can just about guarantee that the AT&T version will NOT be voice enabled. Read my article linked in the previous posts, and you'll understand why.
Buy the international/unlocked 7.7, especially if you travel a lot, and don't look back.
P.S. Don't forget to make sure that AT&T gets a good look at your proud middle finger!

Jade Eyed Wolf said:
I can just about guarantee that the AT&T version will NOT be voice enabled. Read my article linked in the previous posts, and you'll understand why.
Buy the international/unlocked 7.7, especially if you travel a lot, and don't look back.
P.S. Don't forget to make sure that AT&T gets a good look at your proud middle finger!
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What is for sure is about products that are already out... So what is 100% sure is your international version won't have the IR port. Period. And this is a function I really want to have
For the AT&T version although I believe it is likely it won't have voice enabled, let's wait and see. I am not in a hurry since anyway there is so far no custom ROM for the Tab 7.7. Besides it is quite possible the AT&T will be able to get voice capability
Ideally I'd like voice + IR while I can do without LTE (Even though living in NYC and travelling often to Japan, LTE is actually an interesting option)
Anyway hopefully we will see more and more versions out here and some countries may have it all. If not then I'll pick what seems the best compromise for me

I was just looking at these they negri electronics for the price of a 3g/wifi version for voice usage. If the 7 plus had the same screen and ran 3g if be interested but I'll take the 7.7 with no issue. Anyone know the cheapest place to get one. Negri was at $678 if I remember correctly.
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Does anyone know how much the Verizon version will cost at subsidized prices? I mean if it's going to be like the zoom ($499 - $599) when it was first release, might as well get the international version since price won't be that much different.
By the way Jade Eyed Wolf, were you able to sell your Galaxy Note? I have mine and love it but also want the galaxy tab 7.7... my wife is going to kill me if I keep both... it's going to be like $1400 for both devices... I'm trying to sell all my tablets so that I can afford it though.

ckyllr said:
Does anyone know how much the Verizon version will cost at subsidized prices? I mean if it's going to be like the zoom ($499 - $599) when it was first release, might as well get the international version since price won't be that much different.
By the way Jade Eyed Wolf, were you able to sell your Galaxy Note? I have mine and love it but also want the galaxy tab 7.7... my wife is going to kill me if I keep both... it's going to be like $1400 for both devices... I'm trying to sell all my tablets so that I can afford it though.
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I still have my Note at this time. I haven't yet put it up on eBay. I'm debating on whether or not I want to hang onto it until it get's official ICS and see what it's like then. Depending on that experience, it's either my Note or my GS2 that goes. Both are in perfect condition though!

Jade Eyed Wolf said:
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Yeah have a look there
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1468066
Buying a (more expensive) international version doesn't guarantee you'll manage to go unnoticed by these $$$ suckers...

Alcibiade said:
What is for sure is about products that are already out... So what is 100% sure is your international version won't have the IR port. Period. And this is a function I really want to have
For the AT&T version although I believe it is likely it won't have voice enabled, let's wait and see. I am not in a hurry since anyway there is so far no custom ROM for the Tab 7.7. Besides it is quite possible the AT&T will be able to get voice capability
Ideally I'd like voice + IR while I can do without LTE (Even though living in NYC and travelling often to Japan, LTE is actually an interesting option)
Anyway hopefully we will see more and more versions out here and some countries may have it all. If not then I'll pick what seems the best compromise for me
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I just posted my thoughts on the IR port over in the general thread. You should have a read.
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Alcibiade said:
Yeah have a look there
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1468066
Buying a (more expensive) international version doesn't guarantee you'll manage to go unnoticed by these $$$ suckers...
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Yeah I read that... Bad news indeed if this universally applies. However, I haven't personally experienced any issues apart from being notified that I'm among the top 5% of data users and that I may get throttled blah blah blah. So we'll see...

Galaxy Express i437 on another network?

I'll skip all the details but I bought a very nice, very expensive phone from china that ended up only connecting at edge speeds. It supported the correct frequencies but they were swapped, its data freq was voice on my carrier and vice versa. I switched carriers 3x to no avail. In desperation I just ran to walmart and bought a Galaxy Express i437 then sent the Chinese phone back at a loss.
Well, big mistake. The phones great, it suits my needs though it was a bit expensive. But AT&Ts network is complete **** where I live. I can't receive calls in my own house! I've it flashed with the latest version of Cyanogen... which actually helped my signal... but its still not enougn..
1. Can I switch to another carrier? Sprint seems to have a good network here according to the maps and people I've talked to.
2. Where can I find info on frequencies. I'm a pretty technical guy but I am baffled by these frequencies. I don't want to get stranded with no phone for another week and I dont want to blow another $300 on a phone that may or may not work!
3. Do I need to do anything to "jailbreak" my phone? Or does jailbreak just mean root? I'm suprised how little info I could find on the subject.
Yes, I do realize that I'll probably just get flamed with links to FAQs, but that's what I'm looking for! If someone just knows the answers to my questions, that'd be great to.

Unlocking the Galaxy s6 edge plus

Hi there,
Soon to be first time android user(maybe?) wanting to purchase a Galaxy s6 edge plus.
But I have a couple of questions I was hoping people with experience can help me out.
1.- Since I live in the US but will be using the phone often overseas, I would like a fully unlocked phone that will work with any mobile carrier. But it is such trouble buying unlocked phones in the US I am really confused as to how should I proceed doing so? I could buy an Att phone at full retail and get it unlocked by them right? Will I be able to delete the ATT bloatware? Is there a better way to just buy an unlocked phone? I want the 64 gb gold version which seems to be very very hard to find ( ATT does have it though). Note: I am aware Verizon phones are unlocked but they do not carry the 64 gb gold variant and aren't their bands totally bad for international use?
2.- Coming from an iphone user, I've always jailbroken every iphone i've owned, it truly unlocks the full potential of a phone such as installing small modifications that make a great diff. My question is: will I be able to do the same with my galaxy s6 edge plus if I get my hands on an unlocked one? Is this called rooting? I've been reading threads from here and what I got is that rooting devices is very hard specifically for the galaxy brand? Is there a way around that?
That's all for now, just want to thank you going to the trouble of reading my post and would really appreciate your help if you happen to know any of the questions I have.
Thank you

Downward trend on development with AT&T Galaxy S phones? Share your thoughts

I'm trying to decide if I'm going to own the AT&T galaxy s7 edge. This is just my observation, but it seems that there are fewer root options and less custom user development with each new model of the Samsung Galaxy S phones from AT&T. This seems to be more with with AT&T versions because they seem to be trying to do everything in their power to limit users from rooting their phones. This may go further than AT&T, but that's where my experience is limited to. I'd go with another carrier or buy an unlocked one, but I just can't justify the cost when my job pays for the phone and the bill. Worst case scenario is that I'll just stop rooting my phone rather than buy one somewhere else, but I love the flexibility and options it gives me. There are many custom functions I enjoy on my phone made possible by rooting it.
So my question to the community is this, and please share your thoughts even if you disagree:
Do you too also see a decline in the root options and custom development effort in AT&T Galaxy S phones over the years? Do you think this is going to change? And are there other phones you feel are better to own with comparable functionality to the Galaxy S series that receive much more custom user development support? Thank you all!

There is no question that development has fallen away on ATT phones - primarly because of the locked bootloader that ATT started back with the S4 - is has only gotten worse since then.
I am on ATT and I stopped buying ATT phones after the S4. The flexibility and options that are open to me using a TMobile phone on ATT are worth whatever additional cost to me so I just deal with it. I am fortunate, I have a good job and my wife doesn't bi..ch too much.
Custom Rom Developoment on the S6 and Note 5 for all carriers seemed to be less overall than I remember on the Note 4 and the S5 before that - maybe because Samsung pissed everyone off when they didn't include an External SD Card and they elminated the removal battery. The Exynos Processor probably played a big role too - I hope we see more on the S7 and S7 edge....

It's probably not a good idea if you want to use CM on ATT S7. And I would recommend you to get oneplus or nexus if you want to use CM or other custom ROMs.
Edited: I am also considering getting tmobile S7 for att use. Just don't know if that gonna work.
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I have had to stick with ATT since it is the only signal to penetrate the building I am in. My S4 was a T-Mobile model which was all unlocked with good amount of development. My s5 is w8 Canadian model also with pretty good development. I actually considered getting an ATT s7 but I'm sure I would soon be dissatisfied with stock only. Plus 30 months of $26 extra bill for device would be terrible. So I am going to wait and buy another international one when available for less than 6 or 7 hundred bucks.

I left ATT for one of these reasons, got so sick and tired of their Nazi BS crappy way of doing things the past couple of years. I used to LOL at Verizon for being the worst, well ATT has far surpassed them for the worst carrier in the U.S. ( Not talking network )
Back in the day, the ATT Note 2 was AWESOME, and tons of XDA development available for that phone, and then the Note 3 things started to change, and only got worse. The S4 was a disaster, at first it was rootable and had development, then ATT passed an update, and totally locked down that phone.
Plus their billing sucks, my monthly bill was never consistent, even though I was on a good plan. Every month my bill was a little higher, or way higher, but never exactly what it should be.
Fast forward to last Summer, My wife and I moved to T-Mobile at the launch of the Note 5, pick up the T-Mobile Note 5, and both are rooted running a great ROM. And T-Mobile's monthly bill, for seven months straight, been exactly the same, no funny business.

I'm with AT&T for the past two years. Two years ago AT&T kicked T-Mobile off all their cell towers in my area, and my signal became nonexistent. I ordered an S7 Edge through T-Mobile. Once the phone is unlocked, works fine on AT&T network. I won't buy another AT&T phone. I was lucky with my S5. I used the Towel Root exploit, and was lucky to have not updated.....

Thanks everyone! I really appreciate the feedback! Since work will buy the phone, I'm thinking about getting the AT&T S7 Edge, selling it, then getting a T-Mobile version with the money I sell it for maybe make a little or lose a little, but it shouldn't be a huge difference.

It is not only ATT Samsung phones that have seen a decrease in development - pretty much all phones have seen a decrease in development. Reason? Android is much better than it used to be! I had the S6 Edge+ (928G) unlocked and liked it, but eventually sold it. After a month or two I missed it and go a good deal on the ATT version. Man, the battery and signal strength are MUCH better than the 928G I had. There was bloat, but 99% of it can be disabled or uninstalled. I have gotten quite used to Samsung Pay and Android Pay and you can not use those with root.

madgalaxy said:
It is not only ATT Samsung phones that have seen a decrease in development - pretty much all phones have seen a decrease in development. Reason? Android is much better than it used to be! I had the S6 Edge+ (928G) unlocked and liked it, but eventually sold it. After a month or two I missed it and go a good deal on the ATT version. Man, the battery and signal strength are MUCH better than the 928G I had. There was bloat, but 99% of it can be disabled or uninstalled. I have gotten quite used to Samsung Pay and Android Pay and you can not use those with root.
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I simply cannot use a phone without AdAway, so I must root it. I hate ads/spam more than people hated Hitler.

I haven't felt a desire to unlock and root my phone. I have a Moto X Pure. I did have a Note 4 ATT variant and if it just came with Samsung bloat, I would have been fine but it's that ****ty at&t bloat that made me frustrated.

We went from a Note 3 to a Note Edge... Note 3 wasn't too bad and I did have it rooted with towelroot I think.
Note Edge didn't gain enough popularirty and nobody really cared to do anything with it anyways. We skipped the Note 5 and now going with a S7 Edge. I realized I didn't need to root or load a custom ROM on my Edge and I've been fine... Might stay that way with the S7 Edge we'll see...
that being said, I have a Gear S and that is locked down with ATT too.
Thought about going to T-Mobile, but our service is real good with AT&T so we didn't wanna change... I wouldn't mind trying T-Mobile though.

razorseal said:
We went from a Note 3 to a Note Edge... Note 3 wasn't too bad and I did have it rooted with towelroot I think.
Note Edge didn't gain enough popularirty and nobody really cared to do anything with it anyways. We skipped the Note 5 and now going with a S7 Edge. I realized I didn't need to root or load a custom ROM on my Edge and I've been fine... Might stay that way with the S7 Edge we'll see...
that being said, I have a Gear S and that is locked down with ATT too.
Thought about going to T-Mobile, but our service is real good with AT&T so we didn't wanna change... I wouldn't mind trying T-Mobile though.
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I was thinking about switching to tmobile but I was wondering if there is any way to test for tmobile signal in my building?

Ublock Origin works wonders
schn1tt3r said:
I simply cannot use a phone without AdAway, so I must root it. I hate ads/spam more than people hated Hitler.
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Ublock Origin > Firefox Mobile
Just adding (maybe not for you) but there are options out there for people that want Android/Samsung Pay and won't have root.

My honest openion, avoid AT&T, get a unlocked varient, You will thank me later.

I wish unlocked variations of phones worked on Verizon because that's what i would do. Verizon has the same issue with development going down the hill and also all the bloat ware, late updates...
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How is development for Verizon galaxy devices?

Does the T-Mobile variant have the same bands as at&t? Can I get the free Samsung gear vr? Can't seem to find the answers to these anywhere.

I also agree that development across all devices has went down allot.
The way I look at it, from Samsung stand point, if u want features like Gear VR and Samsung Pay, it's best not to root anyway since most of the root breaks those features.
Without those features you might as well get a non feature packed Android such as a Nexus.
Now days before making a device purchase, it's pretty obvious which device has the better dev community. If u go dev route and get a Nexus you loose luxury features such as Samsung Pay Gear VR etc....
Android is so powerful now days, the need for root and custom Roms just ain't needed anymore.
The G1 and HTC Evo and Samsung Vibrant (old school devices) days are a different story.

Just a warning for anybody who wants to use a non AT&T phone on their network. They will not allow it to use VoLTE at all.

spankmatic22 said:
I was thinking about switching to tmobile but I was wondering if there is any way to test for tmobile signal in my building?
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You'll be sorry if you switch.... I left T-Mobile two years ago because of signal problems in the financial capital of the world. NYC... and they are still having the same problems two years later since AT&T kicked them off their cell towers.....
http://callingouttmobile.com/
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lordloki77 said:
Does the T-Mobile variant have the same bands as at&t? Can I get the free Samsung gear vr? Can't seem to find the answers to these anywhere.
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I was with T-Mobile for 15 years up until two years ago when I switched to AT&T.... I had mad signal problems in my house.... I've had no problem since I moved. I order only T-Mobile phones because they are easier to root, and I unlock them.... and use them on AT&T....
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lordloki77 said:
Does the T-Mobile variant have the same bands as at&t? Can I get the free Samsung gear vr? Can't seem to find the answers to these anywhere.
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I was with T-Mobile for 15 years up until two years ago when I switched to AT&T.... I had mad signal problems in my house.... I've had no problem since I moved. I order only T-Mobile phones because they are easier to root, and I unlock them.... and use them on AT&T....

Is an unlocked galaxy s8 worth it?

Hi all, i'm just recently joined this site
I just bought an unlocked galaxy s8 from Samsung website, but now i'm worried. I currently have AT&T and was planning on continuing to use my plan from them, but I was reading that things like Wi-fi calling don't work on unlocked phones with AT&T. Is this true? I was debating on returning the phone (haven't gotten it in the mail yet) and get an AT&T associated one, just because in my work building, there's quite a few dead zones where I don't get service and sending texts was always frustrating until i learned about the wifi calling feature on my current phone. I really don't want to have a brand new, amazing phone like the s8 and still struggle with text messages not going through.
I was reading around on here, that there might be a way to flash AT&T firmware onto my unlocked phone so I can get Wi-fi calling abilities, is this true? How could I go about doing that? I'm pretty inexperienced when it comes to messing with phone software like that (but I can follow directions easily), so would it be worth trying to figure out or am I better off just spending the extra money for the ATT specific phone? That one doesn't have the color I wanted either so it's a little bit of a bummer.
Thanks for any possible help

shaml96 said:
Hi all, i'm just recently joined this site
I just bought an unlocked galaxy s8 from Samsung website, but now i'm worried. I currently have AT&T and was planning on continuing to use my plan from them, but I was reading that things like Wi-fi calling don't work on unlocked phones with AT&T. Is this true? I was debating on returning the phone (haven't gotten it in the mail yet) and get an AT&T associated one, just because in my work building, there's quite a few dead zones where I don't get service and sending texts was always frustrating until i learned about the wifi calling feature on my current phone. I really don't want to have a brand new, amazing phone like the s8 and still struggle with text messages not going through.
I was reading around on here, that there might be a way to flash AT&T firmware onto my unlocked phone so I can get Wi-fi calling abilities, is this true? How could I go about doing that? I'm pretty inexperienced when it comes to messing with phone software like that (but I can follow directions easily), so would it be worth trying to figure out or am I better off just spending the extra money for the ATT specific phone? That one doesn't have the color I wanted either so it's a little bit of a bummer.
Thanks for any possible help
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Read these treads, you will get an idea and if you decided to do it or have questions, then this is your go to guide:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8/how-to/snap-guide-flashing-standard-fw-carrier-t3625817
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8/how-to/switch-to-carrier-firmware-100-t3609487

Basically u will not get wifi calling unless u supply ATT with a imei number from a legit wifi calling capable phone even with the flash. Since this seems to be of major importance to u I would get the ATT phone.
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unlocked carrier free model OTA updates have also been already palpably behind Verizon and T-Mobile.