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New Google Maps Available With Layers 3.2

Check out fuzemobility for more info
http://www.fuzemobility.com/google-maps-for-mobile-now-with-layers/
Or go to http://www.google.com/mobile/products/maps.html#p=default
Release notes (version 3.2)
Below is a list of new features and fixed issues for Google Maps for mobile available in version 3.2 for Symbian Series 60 and Windows Mobile devices.
Installing
Install version 3.2 for Symbian Series 60 and Windows Mobile devices by going to http://m.google.com/maps in your mobile web browser. To ensure proper device detection, use your phone’s original, native browser, such as Internet Explorer Mobile on Windows Mobile devices.

WinMo app is not there anymore (page removed)

gmm 3.2.0 cab
I don't know why google makes it such a pain in the balls to get gmm cabs but here it is.

thanks mate

the link is dead...
never mind, it worked a couple of minutes later...

ya the link on their website for it isn't working.
Anyway it's nice they updated it with the new features.
Now if they would just give us lowly windows-mobile users that google-voice app that they released for everyone else.....

Sweet!
Having traffic accident info is EXACTLY what I have been hoping for.
Good F'n job Google!
Now if they can just integrate weather updates based on cell tower/gps location it would be brushing up against perfect.
(And yes I know Live Search/Bing already does this.)

don't work on Diamond2???

braulioleonardo said:
don't work on Diamond2???
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You installed to Memory Card, right?
As the website said, you have to uninstall, delete any files in the Program Files/ folder for Google Maps, and then restart your phone, and then re-install.
I hate Google's impossible links. Annoyingggg.

What I'd really like to see is Google Earth!!!

Old faithful said:
What I'd really like to see is Google Earth!!!
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Really? I'm already waiting for Google Seas or Space.

thanks for the heads up. downloaded and loving it. especially since they updated transit info this might be the best thing to happen to city dwellers

d0ugie said:
I don't know why google makes it such a pain in the balls to get gmm cabs but here it is.
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Can always count on you to deliver the goods when the manufacturer can only provide a 404.
Cheers Mate!

ace10134 said:
Really? I'm already waiting for Google Seas or Space.
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Google Galaxy would be absolutely fantastic ... you have no idea how much of a pain it is to find directions to Omicron Persei 8.

hilaireg said:
Can always count on you to deliver the goods when the manufacturer can only provide a 404.
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You know das' right my man, I deliver! Can't claim I've got the fastest connection in the world (dsl...) but my server's had 100% uptime since I flipped the switch on for blownfuze back in december.
In google's defense you don't want to be giving out your new hot software to people unless you're sure you're giving them the right version for their phone's OS and with all these different browsers for all phones and I guess it's getting hard to tell what kind of phone they've got based on their http user agent. Almost everybody who uses winmo phones are not like us, don't flash new roms of new builds of different winmo releases, don't use leaked betas of browsers... still, why not let people download from their computer like everyone else who distributes software. For example, here's a user agent that just hit my server log:
"Opera/9.50 (J2ME/MIDP; Opera Mini/4.2.13216/574; U; en)"
Hard to tell which OS that guy's running and google doesn't want to release crappy java versions of gmm anymore.
Doug

I hear ya.
Via devices ... makes total sense.
Via PC however, which is the only way I download CAB's, Google could save themselves tons of issues by following the lead of other manufacturers ...
Drop-Down List 1: Device (or O/S)
Drop-Down List 2: Language of GMM to download
Button: Download
... done. It's simple and requires no complex auto-detection, just a PC user who can read.
At least that's how it's done, I'm told, on Omicron Persei 8.

d0ugie said:
You know das' right my man, I deliver! Can't claim I've got the fastest connection in the world (dsl...) but my server's had 100% uptime since I flipped the switch on for blownfuze back in december.
In google's defense you don't want to be giving out your new hot software to people unless you're sure you're giving them the right version for their phone's OS and with all these different browsers for all phones and I guess it's getting hard to tell what kind of phone they've got based on their http user agent. Almost everybody who uses winmo phones are not like us, don't flash new roms of new builds of different winmo releases, don't use leaked betas of browsers... still, why not let people download from their computer like everyone else who distributes software. For example, here's a user agent that just hit my server log:
"Opera/9.50 (J2ME/MIDP; Opera Mini/4.2.13216/574; U; en)"
Hard to tell which OS that guy's running and google doesn't want to release crappy java versions of gmm anymore.
Doug
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DUDE! We run similar sites! Except I support the T-Mobile Wing while you're all for the Fuze. But I've gotta say my site looks better: http://thewingster.com/
Hehe. That's cool that we ended up doing the same thing though!
And Screenshots of the new Google Maps: http://thewingster.com/googlemaps.aspx

Taken Directly from Googles maps page:
Supported Phones
Google Maps for mobile works on most phones, including those that run the below platforms. You can always download Maps to your phone using your cellular connection -- just visit m.google.com/maps on your device's browser, or send yourself a text message using the button at the top of this page. Some mobile phones also support the ability to sideload Google Maps onto your phone.
Android
BlackBerry
Java
Windows Mobile: Download Binary
Symbian S60 3rd Edition (most new Nokia smartphones): Download Binary
Palm OS: Download Binary
iPhone (pre-installed)
If you're not sure whether your phone runs one of these platforms, just try sending yourself a text message to get Maps. It will probably work!
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So they do offer an easy way to download the cabs...

Yup ... site I usually go to ... looks like they fixed the broken links - no more 404.

Windows Update function?

Hello,
i have just one simple question:is the Windows Update function integrated into the HTC HD2, too? I didn't find it yet. Maybe someone else knows more about it?
Thanks in advance.
Sincerely, nitrate

windows update
i found that auto update icon in windows folder in htc hd2.but it doesnt really update anything.

It's not likely there will ever be something similar to Windows Update for Windows Mobile.
It's largely due to the specificities of the OS and of the devices that host it. Sure, Windows Mobile is produced by MS, but you won't be able to buy it on the shelves, as you can do with XP, Vista or Seven and install it on your home made computer. Every phone maker adapts it fot its own devices, a bit like the drivers you need on top of windows for specific hardware. And don't forget that all the files that make the OS are bundled together in ROM and not just copied on a hard disk. The rom of a HD2 is not the same as that of a HD (not even talking about those of phones from other companies). And you have operators like Orange that custom make their own ROMs, so it's close to impossible for MS to provide the kind of support they do for their other OS. The closest we could have would be a HD2 Update, but run by HTC and not by MS. In a way, that's what they do when they provide a new ROM!
Another thought, you will notice that when we complain about bugs we usually blame (and very often rightly so!) HTC for the problem and not MS.
I spend a lot of times on other forums (job related !) for problems/bugs affecting worksations and servers, almost nobody says "I have so many problems with my Dell, next time I will get a HP!" , they complain (and once again, very often rightly so!) about MS!

Windows Update was included in all ROMs from WM5, but was always an optional extra offered to the operators and phone suppliers by MS. As far as I know, none ever actually purchased the option, though the shortcut remained in the start menu. This is why clicking it always returned the 'No Updates' message.
The HD2 does have the capability for hotfixes to be applied, and some have already been released by HTC. Whether they ever integrate this with the Update utility remains to be seen!

NeilM said:
This is why clicking it always returned the 'No Updates' message.
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This is my 4th WM device, and I've never found an update using this utility. Updates seem to come only from carriers, manufacturers, and cookers...
Has anyone here ever - on any device - received an update using Microsoft's utility?

As I said above, Update was an optional extra that needed to be purchased by the operator/supplier. None ever exercised that option, presumably as they'd rather encourage the user to buy a new model than update the old one

Allow 512Bit Certificates

Hello,
I have been searching high and low for a way to force my shiny new HTC 8x to accept a 512-bit Self-Signed Certificate. Our work email server is Lotus/IBM Domino. We have an EAS server (Notes Traveler) set up for our portable devices. MIcrosoft is the only OS that forces 1024-bit or greater certs. As a result, I cannot connect ot our EAS server.
More info can be found at support.microsoft.com/kb/2661254?wa=wsignin1.0
Through all the research I have been doing, I think it is possible to do this, since you can make it work with WIndows 8 by doing one of two things:
1.Add following in the registry:
reg add "HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Cryptography\OID\EncodingType 0\CertDllCreateCertificateChainEngine\Config" /v minRSAPubKeyBitLength /t REG_DWORD /d 0x00000200 /f
2. use the built-in certutil to modify the registry:
certutil -setreg chain\minRSAPubKeyBitLength 512
Any thoughts on how I can do this with Windows Phone 8? I am in the process of developer-unlocking my device. I just need to wait for the SDK to finish installing into my VM.

As far as I know, there's no way to edit the registry with developer unlock.
You need more elevated privileges (Interop Unlock) and, at this moment, there's no way to obtain that on Windows Phone 8.

I know this isn't the response you are looking for, but recommend to your company to update their SSL certificate to 1024 or 2048 bits. The reason your phone won't support the 512 bit certificate is simply because it is not secure, which Microsoft finally stopped allowing last year..
Since your company is using a self-signed certificate, it should only take them a few minutes to create and install a new one that modern operating systems would support.

klamation said:
I know this isn't the response you are looking for, but recommend to your company to update their SSL certificate to 1024 or 2048 bits. The reason your phone won't support the 512 bit certificate is simply because it is not secure, which Microsoft finally stopped allowing last year..
Since your company is using a self-signed certificate, it should only take them a few minutes to create and install a new one that modern operating systems would support.
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My IT department was surprisingly open to this, once they realized all the Windows PCs couldn't log into the web interface anymore. It might take a couple of weeks/months of planning to put it into their maintenance cycle, though. Oh the joys of working for a large corporation!
Something else I discovered earlier:
In order to write Windows Phone apps, you need the Windows Phone 8 SDK. To Install the Windows Phone 8 SDK, you need Windows 8. When I have time to set up another DEV box with Windows 8 on it, I might revisit this.

Any thoughts on how the OEM apps always seem to get "enhanced" access? (The HTC Carrier Settings tool, for example). I haven't used Windows Phone since 6.0. Back then, we could do ANYTHING! lol

I didn't even notice the Win8 requirement for the SDK, since I was anxious to upgrade to Win8 once it came out. Hmm. But, I think you could use the older 7.x SDK on older versions of Windows, if you want to get used to dev for Windows Phone (as WP7 Apps should still work on WP8).
About why the OEM can do special things to the device, I think it's a simple matter of, they have the OS code, so they can modify it or access things we can't.

OEM Apps are given additional permissions. They request these using some entries in the App-manifest but even if we were able to set these the system would reject their deployment unless they had a proper certificate. It has been that way on WP7 as well.
As for developing on Win7 and deploying to a WP8 device: it won't work. You can run WP7 Apps on WP8 devices but the deployment tools of the WP7 SDK can't handle WP8 devices. So to deploy anything onto a WP8 device you need the WP8 SDK which in turn requires Windows 8 Pro.

Possible Interop Unlock Idea

Something interesting that I found out while thinking about how to interop Unlock WP8: The "PhoneReg.exe" app which is a signed app used for developer unlocking a device is written in un-obfuscated C#.net code!
If anyone has access a program such as Dis#, we should be able to reverse-engineer this and at least figure out what types of data are being passed back and forth between different account types (e.g. Student dev unlock, vs regular dev unlock). Then we can maybe guess at what needs to be passed to Interop-Unlock these devices!
Based on my understanding of how the WP7 interop unlock works, all the Developer unlock does is modify a registry value. As the value gets higher, the more "Development stuff" you can do.

I'll see if I can scare up a copy of that app. Decompiling .NET code is trivial - you don't even need a paid tool, there are many perfectly good free ones (I usually use JustDecompile) - assuming it's not obfuscated.
With that said, bear in mind that we can't currently modify the data that the app receives from the network. That was actually how the original ChevronWP7 unlocker for WP7 worked, but Intercepting (or in the case CWP7U, spoofing) the data was blocked when Microsoft added a feature commonly called "certificate pinning", where rather than checking whether the server's SSL certificate is trusted in general (which you could do by installing a cert manually), the phone now checks for a specific cert (Microsoft's).
However, it's possible (a bit unlikely, but possible) that we'll find a vulnerability in the app. For example, they may have slightly messed up the cert pinning in a way we can exploit (I checked for cert pinning, but I didn't check for ways they might have screwed it up), or they might have left in some debug code we can mess with (that's how HTC interop unlock on WP7 was achieved), or some other such weakness.

If there's some way to help out by testing and such tasks in willing to test on my Lumia 920, if any vulnerability is found Just send me a PM if so
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Cool. Good to know. What was nice about the program I mentioned is that it supposedly decompiles everything and then builds it into a nice Microsoft C# project that can be imported into Visual Studio. (I was able to do that, but bits of code within some classes and methods are missing and just have a code comment called //trial)
Some of the interesting code bits I noticed include:
1. the wonderful "NativeMethods.cs" file. This is a wrapper that allows you to call functions within "PhoneREG.dll" such as "GetAuthToken" and "GetWinPhone8Port"
2. "connectionManager.cs" It opens up a session to the phone using port 27077 to pass data.
3. The files called "lockCommand.cs" and "unlockCommand.cs" The deal with passing and converting some kind of "authToken" to the phone.
4. The "SignInDialog.cs" code provides everything necessary to sign into widows Live. It has variables to store oAUTH tokens.
My thoughts are as follows:
1. we could maybe write a custom app that functions as normal, but edits the ByteArray before it gets sent to the phone. Basically you would need an MSDN developer account of some sort, but signing in with this app will give you Interop Privileges.
2. Maybe there will be something "hidden" if we can figure out what this app is talking to on the phone via port 27077.

That sounds interesting. I'll try to look at the data tomorrow before I head to work and see if I can find anything Hopefully I will
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If we can actually bypass interop lock with a non-MS signature, that would be fantastic... and I'd be astonished. That wasn't possible in WP7 (Mango or later, when the interop-lock was present) and isn't possible in Windows RT either.
Can you either send the app, or post a link to where you got it from?

Hi guys,
just wanted to give you all a huge *thumbs up*! You're doing great work here!
I have a Lumia 920 for about 2 weeks now.
So, as i did some Lumia 800 and Lumia 900 custom roms, and became a little "bored" to WP7, i would be happy if i could help you by testing some stuff on my Lumia 920
If you need my help, just let me know

lordmaxey said:
Hi guys,
just wanted to give you all a huge *thumbs up*! You're doing great work here!
I have a Lumia 920 for about 2 weeks now.
So, as i did some Lumia 800 and Lumia 900 custom roms, and became a little "bored" to WP7, i would be happy if i could help you by testing some stuff on my Lumia 920
If you need my help, just let me know
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I know your feeling I made WM6.5.x, Android and WinPho 7 roms for the HTC HD2 before I got my Lumia 920
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I have a dev unlocked Lumia 820 and can do any testing if required

If you are running a Windows 8 PC and can install the Windows Phone 8 SDK, the PhoneReg tool can be found at C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft SDKs\Windows Phone\v8.0\Tools\Phone Registration
There are some other tools that I haven't poked around at that could be interesting to try and decompile and "re-work" such as the XapSignTool. (I think this might be written in C++ though)
The SDK in its entirety can be downloaded from http://developer.windowsphone.com/en-us/downloadsdk. You want "SDK 8.0".

I'll get my dev unlock in a month. Will get it as a birthday gift So by then I'll be able to help out more.
Should've checked the USB port stuff this morning, but I didn't have time for it but will do it when I get home in 2 hours
Sent from my Lumia 920 using Board Express
EDIT: Can't seem to find a usable USB sniffer that works under Windows 8, or I've been configuring those I've tried wrong. Enabled TESTSIGNING in BCDEDIT and rebooted, so Test Mode is activated, but no tool seem to work
Regards

The phone itself can communicate with a Windows 7 PC, just not if you want to use the SDK. Perhaps try the same experiment under Windows 7? You might be able to copy the "Phone tools" directory off of Windows 8 onto Windows 7. It uses .net 4.5, so make sure the runtime is installed.

I have already gone down this road and can fairly confidently say it is a dead-end. The only interesting thing I found was the ability to switch a phone to use the internal Microsoft development authentication servers. Best of luck though - maybe I missed something.

SynergeTechSolutions said:
I have already gone down this road and can fairly confidently say it is a dead-end. The only interesting thing I found was the ability to switch a phone to use the internal Microsoft development authentication servers. Best of luck though - maybe I missed something.
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Thats sad. Do you have any data collected from the communications on port 27077? That's what we're looking for right now.
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SynergeTechSolutions said:
I have already gone down this road and can fairly confidently say it is a dead-end. The only interesting thing I found was the ability to switch a phone to use the internal Microsoft development authentication servers. Best of luck though - maybe I missed something.
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bummer
Any details about what you found out?

Did you see if the internal (test, I assume) server mode used cert pinning? If not, we can spoof those servers and basically re-implement the original ChevronWP7 unlocker (in a more elegant form, too).

Not quite the Goal you want to move to but maybe what you have found out so far can be used to enable Dev Unlocking and XAP deployment to Dev Unlocked WP8 devices from Windows 7. I believe there are quite a lot of developers who would be happy to have that possibility.

I do know that when you activate dev unlock on WP8 devices, it does it using the Windows Phone IP over USB service ("C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\Phone Tools\CoreCon\11.0\Bin\IpOverUsbSvc.exe"). The IpOverUSBSvc is more or less just a .NET wrapper (I figured this would be the case). If anyone is good at x86 assembly and can get into the IpOverUsbPc.dll, we may get somewhere.

snickler said:
I do know that when you activate dev unlock on WP8 devices, it does it using the Windows Phone IP over USB service ("C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\Phone Tools\CoreCon\11.0\Bin\IpOverUsbSvc.exe"). The IpOverUSBSvc is more or less just a .NET wrapper (I figured this would be the case). If anyone is good at x86 assembly and can get into the IpOverUsbPc.dll, we may get somewhere.
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several tools exists for decompiling DLLs to have a look at the source (which I assume will be .NET)
Reflector is one - commercial - solution, but in Adrian Banks blogs you will find alternatives that are free - and some commercial ones also.
http://www.adrianbanks.co.uk/?p=71

NielDK said:
several tools exists for decompiling DLLs to have a look at the source (which I assume will be .NET)
Reflector is one - commercial - solution, but in Adrian Banks blogs you will find alternatives that are free - and some commercial ones also.
http://www.adrianbanks.co.uk/?p=71
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the DLL I mentioned is unfortunately a COM dll. I already ran ILSpy against the exe to find that out. We will need someone with x86 assembly experience

[REQUEST] Xbox One Smartglass app

The Xbox One is not officially launched in my country yet thus i cannot download the Smartglass application for Windows 8.1 (PC-Tablet version).
Can somebody who has access to this app upload it and give me a link to download?
Please.
I found a beautiful thread on the Android forum here in the site that you can make requests for applications that are locked in your region of Google Play Store and there i found the smartglass application for my android devices but no luck for my Windows 8 device.
Thank you in advance for your help.

Someone could provide it for you (I won't) however you will need a developer key to side load the app. We do not support installing apps without a developer ID because of piracy.

Toxickill said:
Someone could provide it for you (I won't) however you will need a developer key to side load the app. We do not support installing apps without a developer ID because of piracy.
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So as i understand the installation process for Windows 8 Store apps is a lot different than anything from the past or the equivalent for Windows Phone 8 and Android. I do not have a Dev key anyway ....
Thank you for information.
I learned something today I didn't know this because i do not own a Windows 8 device (i needed that app for a friend) and your information led me to search google and get more info on Sideloading on Windows 8.