I have a Note 4 (N910F) which is currently on Vodafone in the UK.
I have been having issues with my battery life and one thing I would like to do is flash a stock rom to get rid of all the Vodafone bloat on the device.
Will this affect my warranty on the phone? I have heard stories about some sort of e-fuse on the device.
Do I need to root to do this? I want to be able to ideally get direct OTA updates from Samsung. If I flash will I lose the data currently on the phone?
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I have a Note 4 (N910F) which is currently on Vodafone in the UK.
I have been having issues with my battery life and one thing I would like to do is flash a stock rom to get rid of all the Vodafone bloat on the device.
Will this affect my warranty on the phone? I have heard stories about some sort of e-fuse on the device.
Do I need to root to do this? I want to be able to ideally get direct OTA updates from Samsung. If I flash will I lose the data currently on the phone?
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I did exactly this today with my 910f. I too am in UK and on Vodafone. I downloaded the btu version from sammobile and flashed with odin 3.09. After flashing a did a factory reset. (The factory reset will wipe your current installed apps and data so skip this step if you wish to keep them but that would counter what your trying to achieve here) No you don't need root. No this doesn't effect the knox efuse. Warranty still intact. Happy flashing
Does the phone need to be network unlocked?
If not, does flashing unlock it?
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Does the phone need to be network unlocked?
If not, does flashing unlock it?
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I don't believe it being locked or not will make a difference but flashing the btu will almost certainly make no difference to the network lock. I don't know if mine is locked or not but I suspect it will be if your is since we both have them from the same source
Has all the Vodafone bloat gone from yours and can you update OTA from Samsung?
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Has all the Vodafone bloat gone from yours and can you update OTA from Samsung?
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Yes and yes. That was the ppint in me doing it. Wasn't really bothered about the Vodafone apps but if it ooffers any increase in performance by using the unbranded rom then I'll take it over having useless Vodafone apps. My main reason though is to get the updates from Samsung soon as they're released instead of having to wait a few extra weeks for Vodafone to make the release available.
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Has all the Vodafone bloat gone from yours and can you update OTA from Samsung?
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how did you get on? success i hope
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As the title states, is there any reason why I shouldn't update to OTA 4.3?
I'm currently running a stock, non-rooted SGH-I337M on Bell. I'm just wondering about KNOX...if I start messing with my phone, should I do it from 4.2?
I updated to 4.3 and I'm seeing a little jank, and it feels less robust than 4.2.2 was. Also, if you intend to root or do a custom recovery/ROM, you will have to wait a few weeks until the bootloader is unlocked and some more cutting gets done on 4.3 before you can do anything like that.
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I updated to 4.3 and I'm seeing a little jank, and it feels less robust than 4.2.2 was. Also, if you intend to root or do a custom recovery/ROM, you will have to wait a few weeks until the bootloader is unlocked and some more cutting gets done on 4.3 before you can do anything like that.
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Hmm...I don't think that the Canadian bootloaders are locked.
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Hmm...I don't think that the Canadian bootloaders are locked.
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Ahh yes, I understand that you are correct.
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Ahh yes, I understand that you are correct.
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So, as I understand it then...
...if I update to MK6, I will have KNOX.
The only reason I should be concerned about tripping KNOX is if I need to send the phone in for warranty, OR if I want to put the phone on some sort of enterprise server? If I don't care about either of these things, I should flash the OTA...and then root/ROM without worry?
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So, as I understand it then...
...if I update to MK6, I will have KNOX.
The only reason I should be concerned about tripping KNOX is if I need to send the phone in for warranty, OR if I want to put the phone on some sort of enterprise server? If I don't care about either of these things, I should flash the OTA...and then root/ROM without worry?
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Virtually no carriers actually check to see if you're rooted.. Once it's accepted for warranty by the carrier it's sent to Samsung and disassembled. It carries some risk, but realistically it's not something to lose sleep over.
I'm in the same boat. I do want to root my phone soon then flash it when the 1 year warranty runs out. Should I root now or after my update? (It's asking to update now)
Would I lose root after my update anyway?
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So, as I understand it then...
...if I update to MK6, I will have KNOX.
The only reason I should be concerned about tripping KNOX is if I need to send the phone in for warranty, OR if I want to put the phone on some sort of enterprise server? If I don't care about either of these things, I should flash the OTA...and then root/ROM without worry?
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If you don't care about either then updating to MK6 isn't going to hurt. The only other concern may be that as far as I know there is no way to revert back to 4.2.2/MG1. I have heard some people were having weird issues around OTAs though like incomplete or frozen downloads and having to start it over again. You can also flash through Kies on your computer now. I assume most of the OTA issues have been resolved now, but imho using a usb cable is always the better practice.
Maleki said:
I'm in the same boat. I do want to root my phone soon then flash it when the 1 year warranty runs out. Should I root now or after my update? (It's asking to update now)
Would I lose root after my update anyway?
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Yes. I had to unroot to get OTA though, then re-root afterwards.
You guys might want to review this thread as well: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2535801. There are other options to OTA and Kies.
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Virtually no carriers actually check to see if you're rooted.. Once it's accepted for warranty by the carrier it's sent to Samsung and disassembled. It carries some risk, but realistically it's not something to lose sleep over.
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The repair process works a little different in my area. If I have an issue, I take my phone to the store...I use a loaner phone while they send mine to a repair facility. If the repair facility finds a reason not to perform repairs under warranty, they don't.
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If you don't care about either then updating to MK6 isn't going to hurt. The only other concern may be that as far as I know there is no way to revert back to 4.2.2/MG1. I have heard some people were having weird issues around OTAs though like incomplete or frozen downloads and having to start it over again. You can also flash through Kies on your computer now. I assume most of the OTA issues have been resolved now, but imho using a usb cable is always the better practice.
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10-4.
Last question...rooting doesn't give that "custom" warning at boot, does it? I think that's only once you install a custom recovery?
If you are not planning on rooting or anything I say go for it. It seems a lot smoother for me, battery life seems far better, im getting slightly better service, and lastly we have built in emojis now (granted you can only send them as an mms through text but you are able to see them system wide now on apps such as ig or twitter etc) I personally say go for it.
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Last question...rooting doesn't give that "custom" warning at boot, does it? I think that's only once you install a custom recovery?
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I think it does, but honestly can't remember... did mine on Nov 23rd and flashed a custom rom within an hr of rooting.
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If you don't care about either then updating to MK6 isn't going to hurt. The only other concern may be that as far as I know there is no way to revert back to 4.2.2/MG1. I have heard some people were having weird issues around OTAs though like incomplete or frozen downloads and having to start it over again. You can also flash through Kies on your computer now. I assume most of the OTA issues have been resolved now, but imho using a usb cable is always the better practice.
Yes. I had to unroot to get OTA though, then re-root afterwards.
You guys might want to review this thread as well: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2535801. There are other options to OTA and Kies.
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My plan was to go stock for a year then when the initial warranty runs out (I have sweet extended one through the re-seller) I was going to go with a custom rom. That's what I did with my S1. It doesn't look like I'll have the luxury. I already updated once and got a secure boot. Lesson learned I guess.
Slow Charging
The new update really takes a long time to charge if you are using a 3rd party charger. Idk if its true for everyone, or if this was done on purpose but I notice my gs4 charging wayyyyy slower than on 4.2.2.
Long time reader...first time poster
I bought an unlocked sprint s7 from ebay and it works like a dream and i was wondering if there was a safe method to update the phone WITHOUT ruining the unlock that the seller put on the phone.
Current software is update PC5 and i would love to benefit from security and bug fixes in new releases.
Thanks in advance!
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Long time reader...first time poster
I bought an unlocked sprint s7 from ebay and it works like a dream and i was wondering if there was a safe method to update the phone WITHOUT ruining the unlock that the seller put on the phone.
Current software is update PC5 and i would love to benefit from security and bug fixes in new releases.
Thanks in advance!
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I always thought if a phone gets carrier unlocked it didnt matter what u did to it, it would stay unlocked. Unless the way he got it unlocked was thru a mod maybe that can b ruined. Im not sure
shooterlgk said:
I always thought if a phone gets carrier unlocked it didnt matter what u did to it, it would stay unlocked. Unless the way he got it unlocked was thru a mod maybe that can b ruined. Im not sure
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Most likely not a carrier unlock do to a unlocked padlock during boot animation as well as samsung pay not working due to software mods that im guessing made it unlocked in the first place. Thanks for the reply!
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Most likely not a carrier unlock do to a unlocked padlock during boot animation as well as samsung pay not working due to software mods that im guessing made it unlocked in the first place. Thanks for the reply!
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Yea ur safest bet is to keep it as it is so u wont lose that. No problem
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Most likely not a carrier unlock do to a unlocked padlock during boot animation as well as samsung pay not working due to software mods that im guessing made it unlocked in the first place. Thanks for the reply!
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Bootloader unlock and sim unlock are two different things. You said it has an unlock pad on boot up screen. That means it's bootloader is unlocked. Which means if I am correct if it has a custom recovery you are unable to do future ota updates. Can and possibly brick your phone. You can flash a ton that has the new update no issues developers are usually fairly quick to update there rom on the latest ota.
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Bootloader unlock and sim unlock are two different things. You said it has an unlock pad on boot up screen. That means it's bootloader is unlocked. Which means if I am correct if it has a custom recovery you are unable to do future ota updates. Can and possibly brick your phone. You can flash a ton that has the new update no issues developers are usually fairly quick to update there rom on the latest ota.
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Now my question is that since my phones bootloader is unlocked via custom software, would it be safe to root it and install custom roms that have the current updates? thanks
nmarz3 said:
Now my question is that since my phones bootloader is unlocked via custom software, would it be safe to root it and install custom roms that have the current updates? thanks
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Yes! You are in the wrong forum though. You are on sprint but need to be with the enxyos forum ND running their tarp and roms
Have the same dilemma as OP.
unlocked on PC5 firmware with GCPro. No root was used
Should i update OTA or leave it be.
xronikus said:
Have the same dilemma as OP.
unlocked on PC5 firmware with GCPro. No root was used
Should i update OTA or leave it be.
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I can confirm that updating over OTA will NOT screw with the unlock of the device. If your samsung pay does not work i would disable knox with a package disabler app to receive samsung pay in you new updated state.
OTA update from PC5 to PH7 on unlocked phone went smoothly.
Thanks
I have a unlocked Sprint S7 but im outside of America, is there any way i can update without losing the unlock? i don't want to end with an expensive brick.
Im stuck in G930PVPU2APC5 and i can't receive OTA updates
I bought unlocked sprint s7 that I'm using with metro PCS, but it's not letting me update the profile and because of that I'm not getting the wifi hotspot option. How do I get it to work?
@ThaDunder : You must initially do it manually over samsung smart switch then OTA will work @zirnitra : Sadly wifi tethering is not working for me either...no idea how to fix it =/ must be a symptom of the unlocking like wifi calling
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@ThaDunder : You must initially do it manually over samsung smart switch then OTA will work @zirnitra : Sadly wifi tethering is not working for me either...no idea how to fix it =/ must be a symptom of the unlocking like wifi calling
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I already tried that, smart switch says there is no update available.
Since my last carrier update (two months ago), my phone has been occasionally restarting, or not allowing the screen to turn on (which I then need to reset my phone to get it started again). I'm in Canada, on Telus (it's an exynos chip).
My phone isn't rooted, nor do I want it since I've had to use the warranty once, and want to wait till its run out before rooting (although, I've heard that different countries regard rooting differently, so if you know that in Canada they don't care about root and warranty, let me know, it might change my mind).
I'm wondering two things: First, can I install other carrier updates for my s7 edge without root? If so, how?
Second, what's the best way for me to backup my phone without root? I've tried Helium in the past, and it's an exercise in frustration to say the least (unless there's been a major update in the last few months that I missed).
GuySmiles said:
Since my last carrier update (two months ago), my phone has been occasionally restarting, or not allowing the screen to turn on (which I then need to reset my phone to get it started again). I'm in Canada, on Telus (it's an exynos chip).
My phone isn't rooted, nor do I want it since I've had to use the warranty once, and want to wait till its run out before rooting (although, I've heard that different countries regard rooting differently, so if you know that in Canada they don't care about root and warranty, let me know, it might change my mind).
I'm wondering two things: First, can I install other carrier updates for my s7 edge without root? If so, how?
Second, what's the best way for me to backup my phone without root? I've tried Helium in the past, and it's an exercise in frustration to say the least (unless there's been a major update in the last few months that I missed).
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I am with Rogers. Rooted first day. Just root bro. Xda is for developers and rooting.
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Xda is for everyone who need help. U can try flash stock stock rom via odin. That works most of the time.
Edit: u can try back up everything with Samsung account but idk how that works. There might also be possibility with Samsung pc software (kies or smart switch I think)
Kubas_inko_CZ said:
Xda is for everyone who need help. U can try flash stock stock rom via odin. That works most of the time.
Edit: u can try back up everything with Samsung account but idk how that works. There might also be possibility with Samsung pc software (kies or smart switch I think)
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Thank you. I'll try flashing stock through odin. Is it safe for me to flash the latest possible update and bypass my carrier's version?
GuySmiles said:
Thank you. I'll try flashing stock through odin. Is it safe for me to flash the latest possible update and bypass my carrier's version?
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to be honest, I am from Czech and here we don't have carriers like you, but i am pretty sure that u can use any version u like.
Hi,
I was wondering if bringing in an unlocked phone from another carrier and putting on T-Mobile firmware will disable Samsung pay or Knox. If not, where would be the place to look on how to do this, a little confusing finding the right spot.
Thank you
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Hi,
I was wondering if bringing in an unlocked phone from another carrier and putting on T-Mobile firmware will disable Samsung pay or Knox. If not, where would be the place to look on how to do this, a little confusing finding the right spot.
Thank you
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I done it, My phone originally a Sprint S7 Edge. Got it unlocked switched to Tmobile and installed the Tmobile firmware with no problem. I still got Samsung Pay just had to re-register for it. My Knox hasn't been tripped.
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Morphx2 said:
Hi,
I was wondering if bringing in an unlocked phone from another carrier and putting on T-Mobile firmware will disable Samsung pay or Knox. If not, where would be the place to look on how to do this, a little confusing finding the right spot.
Thank you
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Knox and Samsung Pay shouldn't be affected, since you're just installing a different fully stock firmware. You should find instructions easily on how to install firmwares with Odin.
I tried to install the T-Mobile Nougat firmware on my G935U(the USA unlocked model), and i coudn't get it to work, something about the system image maybe being too big for my system partition.
Hi all, my wife has just bought me a tablet for my birthday it is locked to o2 and caries the code sm-t819. I have plenty of experience of rooting phones and flashing rom but never on a Samsung which I believe is different to normal. can somebody pease point me in the wright direction for this? I really am not bothered about keeping the LTE ability as I will not be using it with data.
thanks for any help
matt
matt_simpson said:
Hi all, my wife has just bought me a tablet for my birthday it is locked to o2 and caries the code sm-t819. I have plenty of experience of rooting phones and flashing rom but never on a Samsung which I believe is different to normal. can somebody pease point me in the wright direction for this? I really am not bothered about keeping the LTE ability as I will not be using it with data.
thanks for any help
matt
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In all honesty, I'd load Odin on your PC and the flash the Official Samsung Rom from Sammoble. Touchwiz is pretty good these days and has been fast on my T715 for the last 2 years. If you intend to use this tab without LTE, remember to turn on Airplane mode and then wifi. If you don't it may drain the battery looking for a signal etc.
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In all honesty, I'd load Odin on your PC and the flash the Official Samsung Rom from Sammoble. Touchwiz is pretty good these days and has been fast on my T715 for the last 2 years. If you intend to use this tab without LTE, remember to turn on Airplane mode and then wifi. If you don't it may drain the battery looking for a signal etc.
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Thank you very much for your reply I will have a look at how to do that, like I said im new to Samsung and odin. Would I need to get the tablet unlocked from o2?
matt
matt_simpson said:
Thank you very much for your reply I will have a look at how to do that, like I said im new to Samsung and odin. Would I need to get the tablet unlocked from o2?
matt
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You don't need to get the tablet unlocked and any firmware you download from Sammobile and install using Odin doesn't affect your warranty.
When looking on Sammobile, just look for the latest firmware that's UK or failing that, O2. The UK firmware contains less bloat of course. Once flashed, just use Nova laucher or Google Now Laucher to get that stock feel. :victory:
Masteryates said:
You don't need to get the tablet unlocked and any firmware you download from Sammobile and install using Odin doesn't affect your warranty.
When looking on Sammobile, just look for the latest firmware that's UK or failing that, O2. The UK firmware contains less bloat of course. Once flashed, just use Nova laucher or Google Now Laucher to get that stock feel. :victory:
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Thank you very much
Matt
Masteryates said:
You don't need to get the tablet unlocked and any firmware you download from Sammobile and install using Odin doesn't affect your warranty.
When looking on Sammobile, just look for the latest firmware that's UK or failing that, O2. The UK firmware contains less bloat of course. Once flashed, just use Nova laucher or Google Now Laucher to get that stock feel. :victory:
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sorry to bother you again, just looking on sammobile and on the download section for the sm-t819 there is 2 versions. th o2 version and a BTU version. is the btu version the stock samsung version?
thanks
Matt
matt_simpson said:
sorry to bother you again, just looking on sammobile and on the download section for the sm-t819 there is 2 versions. th o2 version and a BTU version. is the btu version the stock samsung version?
thanks
Matt
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I'm confused as to your intentions. Do you want to root your device or update it?
If want to update it then just go into settings and tap software update.
ashyx said:
I'm confused as to your intentions. Do you want to root your device or update it?
If want to update it then just go into settings and tap software update.
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I am looking at the possibility of rooting and installing a custom rom. (if there are any stable good roms for the sm-t819). I f there arent i will update to the latest non o2 bloated ROM.
Thanks for any help
Matt
matt_simpson said:
I am looking at the possibility of rooting and installing a custom rom. (if there are any stable good roms for the sm-t819). I f there arent i will update to the latest non o2 bloated ROM.
Thanks for any help
Matt
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You need to make a decision on whether you are prepared to possibly void your warranty. Flashing anything custom trips KNOX and can potentially void the warranty.
ashyx said:
You need to make a decision on whether you are prepared to possibly void your warranty. Flashing anything custom trips KNOX and can potentially void the warranty.
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I am completely fine with that, It is a second hand unit any way so is probably out of warranty any way. I have flashed plenty before but never samsung, so never had to deal with odin and knox, also with there being loads of different model numbers it is a bit confusing which roms can go on which tabs.
matt_simpson said:
I am completely fine with that, It is a second hand unit any way so is probably out of warranty any way. I have flashed plenty before but never samsung, so never had to deal with odin and knox, also with there being loads of different model numbers it is a bit confusing which roms can go on which tabs.
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Root or install a custom Rom, you will need to install TWRP first.
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Root or install a custom Rom, you will need to install TWRP first.
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That's what I am looking for. Am I correct in thinking that the only one I can use is the lineage that has been built for the tm-819? Or can I use any of the others?
Really appreciate any help.
matt_simpson said:
That's what I am looking for. Am I correct in thinking that the only one I can use is the lineage that has been built for the tm-819? Or can I use any of the others?
Really appreciate any help.
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You will need to use a rom specific for your device.
matt_simpson said:
sorry to bother you again, just looking on sammobile and on the download section for the sm-t819 there is 2 versions. th o2 version and a BTU version. is the btu version the stock samsung version?
thanks
Matt
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If you choose to stick with Samsung stock and don't root, I'd go with this on Sammobile using Odin. https://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/galaxy-tab-s2/SM-T819/BTU/download/T819XXU2BRB2/212254/