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hi, mine is XXUBMJ1, after 3 weeks of usage, the volume automatically increase sometimes, what could be the problem, is it a bug or hardware ? should upgrade the firmware ?
afiqsabri said:
hi, mine is XXUBMJ1, after 3 weeks of usage, the volume automatically increase sometimes, what could be the problem, is it a bug or hardware ? should upgrade the firmware ?
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anyone experience like this?
Do you have any apps installed that control the volume on their own?
MohJee said:
Do you have any apps installed that control the volume on their own?
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nop, just original
afiqsabri said:
nop, just original
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Then I have no idea, sorry. My other guess would be is that you're accidentally pressing the volume key in you pocket or something without realizing it. You could try factory resetting the phone. It can sometimes fox weird issued like yours.
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have u check the adaptive option under the settings->sound->adapt sound?
Could it be that the adaptive sound is processing at certain point of time trying to give you the best sound that its think of?
Yes, I have experienced this under the following conditions:
-Phone just purchased, unrooted, completely stock. Playing music with PowerAmp with and without the EQ/Tone/Limit features, also happened with stock music app. The effect nearly blew out my eardrums once, but it happened several times. Music would play and very suddenly there would be a violent increase in sound, almost as if an EQ crashed. Sound went back to normal after I pressed the volume rocker in either direction. I am not so sure that this has to do with Adaptive Sound because I remember experiencing the same problem before and after i configured it. Overall, incredibly annoying and dangerous for my ears.
-Phone rooted, Viper4Android installed as a user app. The same problem happens using PowerAmp, Xenoamp and stock music app, but the increase is not so violent (not sure why, yet). Marginally tolerable, but still very annoying.
I have not found a fix yet, but still keeping an eye open.
That being said, my phone has music playing almost all day every day so I probably encounter the problem more often than others. I use earbuds, headphones and my car stereo. There is a Droid-Life.com review that mentions the issue and credits it to the phone's audio jack: http://www.droid-life.com/2013/10/01/samsung-galaxy-note-3-review/
See the subsection for Audio Jack Issues. Here is an excerpt:
"Then, after a few minutes without touching anything while at full volume, the volume just explodes and you are left deafened by the surprise volume attack."
I would be interested to see if anyone reports the problem when playing music via the phone's speaker.
have u check the adaptive option under the settings->sound->adapt sound?
Could it be that the adaptive sound is processing at certain point of time trying to give you the best sound that its think of?
afiqsabri said:
hi, mine is XXUBMJ1, after 3 weeks of usage, the volume automatically increase sometimes, what could be the problem, is it a bug or hardware ? should upgrade the firmware ?
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[Update] Looks like this is not an isolated issue. My friend's wife also facing the same problem and she sent in to reflash the unit at Samsung Care Center and the problem just disappear. My friend told me factory reset doesn't help though.
I have exactly the same issue you have. Same XXUBMJ1 ans using the device for a month now. Unknown and just reported to Samsung and was asked to walk in to get advice.
I suppose the problem exists for all 5.0.2 versions that have been released so far. Obviously I didn’t check all of them by myself, only the versions without operator customization (Central Europe, Nordic Combined, etc.).
The usage of headphones profiles in the sound settings is impossible. Those profiles shift automatically (I guess they reset to the general profile) while changing a track (I noticed this doesn’t happen always and what is most odd, always when I come back to the previous track, the profile resets) doesn’t matter if I’m using Walkman, Spotify or Deezer. Additionally, when I choose a random profile, its settings is random as well (for example settings for MH1C is not always available under MH1C, it changes randomly during such reset) it’s hearable when changing a profile while listening to some track. It’s a total mess.
The other thing is a bug in system keyboard. Probably it’s a matter of the language chosen (I chose polish)- didn’t check that though. When the keyboard is extended and I click on a word which I want to edit, the cursor moves to the end of the word, and it’s necessary to tap on the word again to cause the cursor stay where I want it. Is this a new functionality of Lollipop? It didn’t appear in KitKat.
Do you have some suggestions how those issues. Is somebody going to report them to Sony? Maybe some version that isn’t affected.
If you have Root, installing Viper should eliminate this.
No, I do not use root, and I think I do not need it.
But this is a workaround. I think, that stock music settings are great so I want to use it on LP too, not only on KK. I love LP design, functionality and all of it features. Now I must use KK again cause of this stupid problems...
Someone noticed this issues? On Z3C, or Z3?
Maybe some root workaround, without installing other music settings?
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The usage of headphones profiles in the sound settings is impossible. Those profiles shift automatically (I guess they reset to the general profile) while changing a track (I noticed this doesn’t happen always and what is most odd, always when I come back to the previous track, the profile resets) doesn’t matter if I’m using Walkman, Spotify or Deezer. Additionally, when I choose a random profile, its settings is random as well (for example settings for MH1C is not always available under MH1C, it changes randomly during such reset) it’s hearable when changing a profile while listening to some track. It’s a total mess.
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You are right, I noticed this issue too. Profile switching is inconsistent. Also, audio effects aren't applied automatically on tracks, you need to disable-reenabled them in Sound Effects menu, and do that for each new track (not always, like you said). The Sony SW Audio Effects are basically broken.
So what we can do with it? I really want to use Lollipop again, but I need music app and sound quality working flawless to be satisfied.... Maybe some root solution? Someone, please?
Also this is strange that there are only two of us, who cares about this issue. On the biggest android forum in the world... Sony Z3C audio quality is superb - I does not believe that there are no persons who uses their phones to listen music in great audio quality... I don't want to change my earphones only because it is not playing as good as it should on general audio settings. XBA-3 are great and sounds brilliant on MH1C profile. So I NEED IT to work on Lollipop!
Where are you, guys? Any support is needed asap!
I have an MH1c and the profile is useless for me now :'(
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I recognize the edit issueon my lollipop. When placing the cursor in the middle of a word, it jumps to the end when you start typing. Very annoying :|
I don't use headphones profiles, so can't help in this regard.
Checked the edit function. First - it's specific to the system keyboard, second - it has a very consistent behavior, which leads me to believe that it's not a bug, but a feature. First press on the word is not for editing it, but rather for replacing it from a set of auto-completion options shown when you type - the same set shows up when you press the word after it's already typed. The second press is getting you to editing the word letter-by-letter. I've tried changing the autocorrect options, and when auto-completion suggestions are completely disabled - this feature is disabled too.
It can actually be useful in its current form, though I can definitely understand the need to have a switch to get it disabled without disabling auto-completion suggestions.
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I don't use headphones profiles, so can't help in this regard.
Checked the edit function. First - it's specific to the system keyboard, second - it has a very consistent behavior, which leads me to believe that it's not a bug, but a feature. First press on the word is not for editing it, but rather for replacing it from a set of auto-completion options shown when you type - the same set shows up when you press the word after it's already typed. The second press is getting you to editing the word letter-by-letter. I've tried changing the autocorrect options, and when auto-completion suggestions are completely disabled - this feature is disabled too.
It can actually be useful in its current form, though I can definitely understand the need to have a switch to get it disabled without disabling auto-completion suggestions.
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You mean feature of Xperia Keybord on Lollipop? Lollipop has different version of keyboard than KitKat? Can someone check this? On KK I've got 6.4.A.1.54 Xperia Keyboard. I am curious, if there is different version of keyboard on LP - is there a possibility to install keyboard from KK (without root) and will "the bug" still be present?
This thing - as a "feature" - is something doesn't make sense. On KK you can also change typed word to other from suggestions and - at the same time - you can edit if from where you tap it. Why the hell user has to touch the word again?
Not sure why, but I don't use a system keyboard - I use Smart Keyboard Pro. This "feature" isn't a part of the OS - it only happens when working with Xperia keyboard, with a custom keyboard it isn't happening.
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So what we can do with it? I really want to use Lollipop again, but I need music app and sound quality working flawless to be satisfied.... Maybe some root solution? Someone, please?
Also this is strange that there are only two of us, who cares about this issue. On the biggest android forum in the world... Sony Z3C audio quality is superb - I does not believe that there are no persons who uses their phones to listen music in great audio quality... I don't want to change my earphones only because it is not playing as good as it should on general audio settings. XBA-3 are great and sounds brilliant on MH1C profile. So I NEED IT to work on Lollipop!
Where are you, guys? Any support is needed asap!
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While I agree with you that this is an issue, and if they have the functionality available it SHOULD be working as intended...
If you care about audio fidelity so much, you shouldn't be using an equalizer in the first place, you should buy good headphones, that have been correctly tuned -- either to produce the correct sound or to produce the frequency response you most like. On the fly software equalization is never the answer.
Most people don't care about the issue so much, and audiophiles will have the correct equipment. That's why no one else seems upset at this.
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As for the keyboard, it is most certainly the way sony designed this new keyboard to work. It's not an defect, it's how it works. Try google keyboard, swiftkey, fleksy. I've used all of they and any one is far superior to the xperia keyboard -- the beauty of android is that you can customize what you don't like.
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While I agree with you that this is an issue, and if they have the functionality available it SHOULD be working as intended...
If you care about audio fidelity so much, you shouldn't be using an equalizer in the first place, you should buy good headphones, that have been correctly tuned -- either to produce the correct sound or to produce the frequency response you most like. On the fly software equalization is never the answer.
Most people don't care about the issue so much, and audiophiles will have the correct equipment. That's why no one else seems upset at this.
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Believe me, I am know what I am doing and what I am using.
My headphones works good with Z3C on general profile and without any equalizations (by the way, Z3C has great audio quality, very simillar to eg. Sony ZX1 or Sony A15 audio players). But with MH1C profile works greater than good - it is sounds excellent. This is not an equipment issue thread.
No Xloud, Decreased overall loudness/Volumes.
I am also getting Sound Problems after the Lollipop Update.
1. The Xloud Feature has disappeared from the sound settings and playing music through internal speakers is so terrible, makes sound like coming from a very cheap phone.
2. The loudness has decreased a lot now. I think that Sony have changed the volume levels. I remember that in kitkat volume at lvl 1 was high enough to be audible easily and at max volume, it was pretty high, but now the volume at the minimum level is barely heard even through headpones. The sound i am getting now at max level in LP was at a level less volume in KK.
3. Yes, there is headphones selection problem now in LP, but you can just get the type of sound you need be selecting different ones. For example, if you want to listen to sound for Noice Cancellation headphones, then select those and then select any other to get the NC sound exactly same which came in KitKat firmware. The fact is that you will get the audio type which headphones you have selected previously.
Rest I am not getting any major issue.
even my friend who has xperia Z2 have same problems. I think Sony have used same basics for all lollipop updates.
If the stock eq isn't behaving, replace it with Viper:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2191223
No, there is no problem with equaliser. Is there something to increase volume level.
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I added a thread about audio issues on Sony official support forum, available there:
http://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Software-Updates/Z3-Compact-5-0-2-Lollipop-headphone-profiles-and-music-settings/m-p/982108#U982108
mangatparamveer said:
No, there is no problem with equaliser. Is there something to increase volume level.
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Viper can up volume, as well. It's not as good as a dedicated headphone/dac would be, but it definitely does the job.
mangatparamveer said:
I am also getting Sound Problems after the Lollipop Update.
3. Yes, there is headphones selection problem now in LP, but you can just get the type of sound you need be selecting different ones. For example, if you want to listen to sound for Noice Cancellation headphones, then select those and then select any other to get the NC sound exactly same which came in KitKat firmware. The fact is that you will get the audio type which headphones you have selected previously.
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You mean, that If I chose MH1c profile, change it to another and save settings (go back) - while listening music it will automatically change back to MH1c setting? Not some random profile, or general profile?
The selection does not change, but the sound becomes as that of general headphones profile. I have even updated firmware to 23.1.A.1.28 but still all tge sound issues are there. Maybe in future firmware they will fix it.
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Meh, all hope is gone....
I assume is there a way to manualy get similar to MH1C sound using only equalizer...
I got my OP2 4 days back and it has been quite a disappointment switching from the OnePlus One in terms of sound quality and volume levels.
The volume level is horrendous, both for ringtones/notifications and media. I'm sure this will eventually be solved by a kernel or a OS update but as of now, even if I am with a group of friends and the phone is in my pocket, I can't hear the ringtone. Moreover, there is no option to unlink ringtone and notifications.
Before anyone suggests, my volume levels are highest.
J.
It is true. Volume is too low. For me it is not a problem because I'm almost always on silent mode. Anyway there is one volume thing which is also broken...
When playing games it does not make a visible difference if the volume is on the highest lvl or almost muted. There is a difference, but IMO speaker is to loud when You set it's level as lowest as possible -_- (but not entirely, not to mute)
You think the same ?
It is a problem for me as I go to crowded places often.
I don't play games but I listen to a lot of music and apart from the volume levels, the sound quality is also very bad. Spotify sounds like a radio channel being broadcast from a garage.
I don't have the issue of speaker being too loud like you have. But OnePlus needs to up their game. Maybe they should concentrate on these issues instead of creating hype around an invite system.
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It is true. Volume is too low. For me it is not a problem because I'm almost always on silent mode. Anyway there is one volume thing which is also broken...
When playing games it does not make a visible difference if the volume is on the highest lvl or almost muted. There is a difference, but IMO speaker is to loud when You set it's level as lowest as possible -_- (but not entirely, not to mute)
You think the same ?
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Can someone post the mixer_paths.xml? I'm waiting for my OPT to ship, but it'd be interesting to see if we could modify the mixer_paths.xml to work like the OPO speaker mods.
I did modify it and there is a little difference. Still, not as good as the OPO.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/85jai1zga4nub1l/mixer_paths.xml?dl=0
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I did modify it and there is a little difference. Still, not as good as the OPO.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/85jai1zga4nub1l/mixer_paths.xml?dl=0
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could you highlight which lines has been changed?
That's funny because I found the volume was way too loud on my OnePlus Two, even at the lowest setting. I disabled Audio Effects and I can now set the volume to a more appropriate level.
How did you disable Audio Effects? @thegregulator
Here's an unmodified version of mixer_paths.xml: https://www.dropbox.com/s/aw90jz1judpkjlq/mixer_paths.xml?dl=0
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Differences per diffchecker.com: https://www.diffchecker.com/i0xiffnw. Left is the modified version by @jutinarora, right is my stock version.
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How did you disable Audio Effects? @thegregulator
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Go into the app Audio Tuner and toggle it off. You can also toggle it off directly when playing media on the speaker, just press either of the volume buttons and look for the "AudioEffects" toggle.
No kidding. I got mine yesterday and it's so quiet that I'm concerned whether the alarms will wake me up; I'm a very heavy sleeper. I was just trying to listen to something on TuneIn which was quite audible on my OPO and I was straining to hear.
Go into audio tuner> turn the preset to "flat".. turn maxxbass off... turn maxxspace off...
Just done what omegablaze said but increased max dialog to max and my volume went up through headphones but not really seeing a difference though the phone. I was wondering if the are any custom flashes out there like extreme beats + viper4android that I have just seen on YouTube. U see I'm new to flashing and root etc so any help would be great because it's very hard to hear any calls that come though
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Waterdroid said:
Here's an unmodified version of mixer_paths.xml: https://www.dropbox.com/s/aw90jz1judpkjlq/mixer_paths.xml?dl=0
Differences per diffchecker.com: https://www.diffchecker.com/i0xiffnw. Left is the modified version by @jutinarora, right is my stock version.
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Go into the app Audio Tuner and toggle it off. You can also toggle it off directly when playing media on the speaker, just press either of the volume buttons and look for the "AudioEffects" toggle.
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Tweaking this file didnt help on oxygen 2.1 , hopefully someone soon has a better option.
Sorry to hear you're having that issue, the speaker volume on my OPT is quite loud, no volume issues here
kayone73 said:
Sorry to hear you're having that issue, the speaker volume on my OPT is quite loud, no volume issues here
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well as per what i have researched there are many people who are facing this issue. Furthermore i have 2 other phones lumia 1520 and a motox and they both are very loud compared to one plus two. i have compared the same notification tones on all three phones and the lumia 1520 is the loudest whereas one plus is the quitest. In a noisy environment you dont come to know that it is ringing especially while riding a thumping motorbike.
My advice based on what I'm currently doing is to buy some nice headphones. The ones I'm using are Sony MDR-10RC they really compliment each other in looks and if you play with the audio settings it equals very nice sound. But if it's a case of you are not hearing you phone when its ringing just download zedge and search (loud ring tone). Yes I'm not a fan of oneplus 2 stock speakers but I hope this helps you out.
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I also have problem with ringtones i work in factory on cnc and i can't heare phone ring tone and notification particularly
Guys, what about increase the volume of the headset or the headphones for listen to music louder? I saw the file, but I couldn't guess which value to change.
Same problem. Too low during Call, and loudspeaker during call. Notifications and ring tones too low too.
Headphones are fine though.
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I guess something needs to be done, I also find volume very low
I see alot of discussion here about the Axon 7 problems with lack of access to the AKM DAC, and the flawed stock Music Player. I know this has been talked through, but unfortunately, most of what I read is contradictory or inconclusive.
I have done extensive if somewhat subjective testing with a set of Sony MDR-D77 phones (look 'em up) and have come to the conclusion that NO music apps other than the stock player use the AKM chip. None, zip, nada. The only two I have found so far that tell what chip they are using are Neutron & Poweramp, and both list the Qualcomm DAC (Neutron lists ARMv8 + NEON, and Poweramp lists Snapdragon 24bit). I have tried Neutron, Poweramp, Google Play, VLC, Black Player, PlayerPro, Onkyo HF Player, Foobar 2000, Media Monkey, Noozy, USB Audio Player Pro, Stellio & Hiby Music. All fall short. It's not like any of them are bad, they are just not as good. There are subtle but significant differences. With the default player, the soundstage is a little wider and seems to have more depth, the high end is a little clearer and there is no distortion even when turned up. With EVERY other player there is a a slight compression to the sound, a bit of a roll off at the high end, and noticeable distortion during loud passages. Nothing extreme by any means, and might not even have noticed if I wasn't listening back to back, but it's there none the less. Neutron & Poweramp both have enough options to make it a little better and squeeze every bit out of the Snapdragon DAC, but they still fall short, and I don't want to have to pay for second best. There has been some discussion about the Headset HiFi setting switching between DAC's, but I don't think that is what it does. I can still hear differences regardless of the settings. I have a feeling it's another software trick, like the Dolby stuff.
So just use the default player, right? Yeah...well here's the thing, as has been discussed, it won't play album tracks in order, it alphabetizes everything. For me, that's a deal breaker. I just can't listen to Dark Side of the Moon, or Abbey Road, or O.K. Computer, or any number of other albums, in alphabetical order. It just ain't right.
So.. here are my questions:
1. Has anyone found a player that actually uses the AKM chip? Are you sure? Is it even possible without some hardware level access?
2. Would it be possible to add the ability to play tracks in order to the default player? I'm not much of a coder, so I plead incompetence on this, but if it is possible I might be willing to make it a personal project.
3. Would it be possible to make it so other players can access the AKM chip? More difficult than the previous question I'm sure, but probably still possible.
I'm sure that any of the above solutions could also work for you Axon Pro owners out there, and Blade V8 owners as well, and any other ZTE phones with the AKM chip. Unfortunately, ZTE has shown little interest in dealing with this. I just makes me sad to have such a wonderful bit of hardware, and only a flawed player to access it with. There must be a better way.
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I see alot of discussion here about the Axon 7 problems with lack of access to the AKM DAC, and the flawed stock Music Player. I know this has been talked through, but unfortunately, most of what I read is contradictory or inconclusive.
I have done extensive if somewhat subjective testing with a set of Sony MDR-D77 phones (look 'em up) and have come to the conclusion that NO music apps other than the stock player use the AKM chip. None, zip, nada. The only two I have found so far that tell what chip they are using are Neutron & Poweramp, and both list the Qualcomm DAC (Neutron lists ARMv8 + NEON, and Poweramp lists Snapdragon 24bit). I have tried Neutron, Poweramp, Google Play, VLC, Black Player, PlayerPro, Onkyo HF Player, Foobar 2000, Media Monkey, Noozy, USB Audio Player Pro, Stellio & Hiby Music. All fall short. It's not like any of them are bad, they are just not as good. There are subtle but significant differences. With the default player, the soundstage is a little wider and seems to have more depth, the high end is a little clearer and there is no distortion even when turned up. With EVERY other player there is a a slight compression to the sound, a bit of a roll off at the high end, and noticeable distortion during loud passages. Nothing extreme by any means, and might not even have noticed if I wasn't listening back to back, but it's there none the less. Neutron & Poweramp both have enough options to make it a little better and squeeze every bit out of the Snapdragon DAC, but they still fall short, and I don't want to have to pay for second best. There has been some discussion about the Headset HiFi setting switching between DAC's, but I don't think that is what it does. I can still hear differences regardless of the settings. I have a feeling it's another software trick, like the Dolby stuff.
So just use the default player, right? Yeah...well here's the thing, as has been discussed, it won't play album tracks in order, it alphabetizes everything. For me, that's a deal breaker. I just can't listen to Dark Side of the Moon, or Abbey Road, or O.K. Computer, or any number of other albums, in alphabetical order. It just ain't right.
So.. here are my questions:
1. Has anyone found a player that actually uses the AKM chip? Are you sure? Is it even possible without some hardware level access?
2. Would it be possible to add the ability to play tracks in order to the default player? I'm not much of a coder, so I plead incompetence on this, but if it is possible I might be willing to make it a personal project.
3. Would it be possible to make it so other players can access the AKM chip? More difficult than the previous question I'm sure, but probably still possible.
I'm sure that any of the above solutions could also work for you Axon Pro owners out there, and Blade V8 owners as well, and any other ZTE phones with the AKM chip. Unfortunately, ZTE has shown little interest in dealing with this. I just makes me sad to have such a wonderful bit of hardware, and only a flawed player to access it with. There must be a better way.
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neutron can absolutely use the ak, and I'm sure other players can as well. it just needs to be switched on after plugging in headphones. obviously as a secondary DAC the output sink in use matters, and it certainly does have issues detecting what sink is in use and whether it should switch on or not, but this is actually a problem with android and not the hardware itself.
just my 2 cents
there's really no comparison in terms of audio quality either imo, neutron especially after the other days update is ridiculously powerful
https://www.reddit.com/r/Axon7/comments/5v326b/just_switched_to_lineage_turns_out_the_akm_dac/
Related part is in the second paragraph of OP
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neutron can absolutely use the ak, and I'm sure other players can as well. it just needs to be switched on after plugging in headphones. obviously as a secondary DAC the output sink in use matters, and it certainly does have issues detecting what sink is in use and whether it should switch on or not, but this is actually a problem with android and not the hardware itself.
just my 2 cents
there's really no comparison in terms of audio quality either imo, neutron especially after the other days update is ridiculously powerful
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Could you tell me how to check the dac is being used on neutron? And when you say switch it on, where do you mean?
To be honest though, I really hear no difference between the stock player and neutron or rocket player. The 3 sound identical. Am using 1more Triple Driver IEMs.
joaste said:
Could you tell me how to check the dac is being used on neutron? And when you say switch it on, where do you mean?
To be honest though, I really hear no difference between the stock player and neutron or rocket player. The 3 sound identical. Am using 1more Triple Driver IEMs.
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here ill make a little Walk through of my process
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here ill make a little Walk through of my process
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Much appreciated!
basically the only things that are critical to ensure is that neutron is processing using AudioTrack rather than OpenFail(GL) ES, and that you go toggle back and forth the dac in sound options any time you say, reboot without removing the plug from your headphone jack. screens are sequential. and just meant to show my setup and process when i get in my car, mount my a7 to the dash and jack in.
you'll hear the difference immediately from switching on the ak4461. its pretty ridiculous
*ADDENDUM * guess i should probably say that this is with stock, albeit modded firmware. everything seems to indicate the audio treasure contained in this handsets' chassis is more or less inaccessible when running custom roms, or at least LOS based ones
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basically the only things that are critical to ensure is that neutron is processing using AudioTrack rather than OpenFail(GL) ES, and that you go toggle back and forth the dac in sound options any time you say, reboot without removing the plug from your headphone jack. screens are sequential. and just meant to show my setup and process when i get in my car, mount my a7 to the dash and jack in.
you'll hear the difference immediately from switching on the ak4461. its pretty ridiculous
*ADDENDUM * guess i should probably say that this is with stock, albeit modded firmware. everything seems to indicate the audio treasure contained in this handsets' chassis is more or less inaccessible when running custom roms, or at least LOS based ones
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Thanks for the screenshots.
I am seeing AudioTrack rather than OpenES now but am not seeing NEON+NEON like you. I'm still seeing ARMv8 + NEON.
I am using the evaluation version of Neutron. Would be surprised if that was the cause.
I'm on full stock B10 (A2017G -> maybe that has something to do with it?).
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Thanks for the screenshots.
I am seeing AudioTrack rather than OpenES now but am not seeing NEON+NEON like you. I'm still seeing ARMv8 + NEON.
I am using the evaluation version of Neutron. Would be surprised if that was the cause.
I'm on full stock B10 (A2017G -> maybe that has something to do with it?).
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lol is cause my ss was bad, we have the same hardware :highfive:
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lol is cause my ss was bad, we have the same hardware :highfive:
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OK, but I don't have anything next to VEC. Not sure what that is by the way, nor why I have nothing next to it like you...
As already mentioned though, I really hear no difference between the players. I do hear a difference when I switch to Super mode in sound settings.
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Flaîm said:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Axon7/comments/5v326b/just_switched_to_lineage_turns_out_the_akm_dac/
Related part is in the second paragraph of OP
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Only saw your post now.
Indeed, if true, that confirms what I was hearing in any case.
Thanks for that!
joaste said:
OK, but I don't have anything next to VEC. Not sure what that is by the way, nor why I have nothing next to it like you...
As already mentioned though, I really hear no difference between the players. I do hear a difference when I switch to Super mode in sound settings.
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Only saw your post now.
Indeed, if true, that confirms what I was hearing in any case.
Thanks for that!
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super mode = the toggle for the ak4461.
as for neutrons quality, keep in mind you're always limited to the quality of your music files as well as your listening hardware. everything sounds much better in my car where i also utilize a creative Soundblaster e3
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basically the only things that are critical to ensure is that neutron is processing using AudioTrack rather than OpenFail(GL) ES, and that you go toggle back and forth the dac in sound options any time you say, reboot without removing the plug from your headphone jack. screens are sequential. and just meant to show my setup and process when i get in my car, mount my a7 to the dash and jack in.
you'll hear the difference immediately from switching on the ak4461. its pretty ridiculous
*ADDENDUM * guess i should probably say that this is with stock, albeit modded firmware. everything seems to indicate the audio treasure contained in this handsets' chassis is more or less inaccessible when running custom roms, or at least LOS based ones
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Thanks for the replies.
I don't know, maybe I'm imagining it, but i swear, I could switch back and forth between say black player and vlc, and they were identical. But...switching between the stock player and any other, and they were not. And that's with super on all the time, and I did go in and check to see if it had been reset. I don't know. I think I'll give my ears a rest and maybe try again. This time I'll try switching super off and on each time I switch players and see if that makes a difference. Do you think unplugging the headphones when going from one player to another would make a difference? I wasn't doing that.
I will agree that of all the third party players I tried, that neutron sounded the best. But it still didn't seem to be as clear and open as the stock player. I will check that I don't have ES turned on. And you have a couple of options selected I didn't, I will check those as well.
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Thanks for the replies.
I don't know, maybe I'm imagining it, but i swear, I could switch back and forth between say black player and vlc, and they were identical. But...switching between the stock player and any other, and they were not. And that's with super on all the time, and I did go in and check to see if it had been reset. I don't know. I think I'll give my ears a rest and maybe try again. This time I'll try switching super off and on each time I switch players and see if that makes a difference. Do you think unplugging the headphones when going from one player to another would make a difference? I wasn't doing that.
I will agree that of all the third party players I tried, that neutron sounded the best. But it still didn't seem to be as clear and open as the stock player. I will check that I don't have ES turned on. And you have a couple of options selected I didn't, I will check those as well.
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i mean it's true that all of the configuration files are written with the stock player in mind and so it will have the easiest pain free time facilitating playback on that phone with its hardware and its structure
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i mean it's true that all of the configuration files are written with the stock player in mind and so it will have the easiest pain free time facilitating playback on that phone with its hardware and its structure
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I suppose it's possible that ZTE may have tweaked the output a bit on the stock player, and that's what I'm hearing, not the DAC.
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I suppose it's possible that ZTE may have tweaked the output a bit on the stock player, and that's what I'm hearing, not the DAC.
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actually dolby wrote all of the audio configuration files for this phone
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actually dolby wrote all of the audio configuration files for this phone
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Got It! Crossfeed was turned on. Turned it off and everything widened up. Now Neutron sounds as good or better than stock.
Thanks again for all the input.
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basically the only things that are critical to ensure is that neutron is processing using AudioTrack rather than OpenFail(GL) ES, and that you go toggle back and forth the dac in sound options any time you say, reboot without removing the plug from your headphone jack. screens are sequential. and just meant to show my setup and process when i get in my car, mount my a7 to the dash and jack in.
you'll hear the difference immediately from switching on the ak4461. its pretty ridiculous
*ADDENDUM * guess i should probably say that this is with stock, albeit modded firmware. everything seems to indicate the audio treasure contained in this handsets' chassis is more or less inaccessible when running custom roms, or at least LOS based ones
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Got It! Crossfeed was turned on. Turned it off and everything widened up. Now Neutron sounds as good or better than stock.
Thanks again for all the input.
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Okay after some time and multiple attempts I give up.
Can any of you post a full list of your settings in screenshot so I can copy them?
I just can't make it work, help me please.
nfsmw_gr said:
Okay after some time and multiple attempts I give up.
Can any of you post a full list of your settings in screenshot so I can copy them?
I just can't make it work, help me please.
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what's not working exactly?
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have come to the conclusion that NO music apps other than the stock player use the AKM chip. None, zip, nada. The only two I have found so far that tell what chip they are using are Neutron & Poweramp, and both list the Qualcomm DAC (Neutron lists ARMv8 + NEON, and Poweramp lists Snapdragon 24bit). I have tried Neutron, Poweramp, Google Play, VLC, Black Player, PlayerPro, Onkyo HF Player, Foobar 2000, Media Monkey, Noozy, USB Audio Player Pro, Stellio & Hiby Music. All fall short.
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I can confirm Google Play Music uses the hi-fi DAC and amplifier when Super is selected. So, it's not just the stock Music app that uses it. You are incorrect in this case.
What about music players that people actually use? I mean...I don't think many people listen to local music these days on their phones.
Youtube, spotify...do they use the Hi-Fi DAC?
Hi guys,
I am using bluetooth audio in my car and I noticed just after buying this phone, that when I set phone volume to 100% (in general, any volume above 67%), which I always do, since stock audio is not much powerful, volume changes rapidly during a song. To be more specific - I listen to electronic music and during every kick, volume goes down and up in the gaps between them, so it sounds like a wave. Higher frequencies or silent passages are loud as hell, lower bassy sounds are silent and this changes 2-3 times a second. It rips my ears off.
With my previous phones used in this car (LG G3, Zenfone Max 3), I never had this issue. I even tested some very cheap phones, every single one of them was ok, sound was not even distorted on max phone volume. On any bluetooth headphones it's the same case, so it's not car audio issue. Also when using corded headphones or aux, sound is perfectly fine as it should be.
What I already tried to fix it:
Messing with every setting in developer mode
Unpairing smart watch (just in case)
Tried loads of different audio players - with no EQ on, just flat
Reset to factory settings
Nothing helped. I lost almost a month with Asus "so called" support, I even shot a video for them with clear evidence what is happening. No help, except they tried to make an idiot of me. I get angry just thinking about that communication with them. Am I really the only one with this issue? I don't believe that warranty claim would solve anything and I really want to keep this phone.
Any help would be really appreciated. Thank you.
Try this, Goto Developer Options, activate the "Disable Absolute Volume" toggle (see screenshot). Disconnect and reconnect your Bluetooth connection. Hope it'll work out for you.
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Try this, Goto Developer Options, activate the "Disable Absolute Volume" toggle (see screenshot). Disconnect and reconnect your Bluetooth connection. Hope it'll work out for you.
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Actually, this was the very first thing I tried. Just to be sure, I did it once again together with disconnecting and reconnecting as well, nothing changed...
How about set whatever player you are using to be not battery optimized? I haven't been able to try any fix since I seldomly bluetooth connected to my car stereo. Or try, bluetooth volume control from Playstore maybe?
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How about set whatever player you are using to be not battery optimized? I haven't been able to try any fix since I seldomly bluetooth connected to my car stereo. Or try, bluetooth volume control from Playstore maybe?
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I am using JetAudio and optimization is turned off. Tried volume control you suggested, but it makes no difference. Sound is still messed up.
I use Shuttle as music player, bare in mind that every recording has a different mastering approach, thus volume levelling could be varied, especially on first pressed of classic records. Usually I am amplifying low signal wave records manually. But to keep away from such trouble, I suggest Spotify since it has normalizing feature, or turn on this feature if it is available in your music player.
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How about set whatever player you are using to be not battery optimized? I haven't been able to try any fix since I seldomly bluetooth connected to my car stereo. Or try, bluetooth volume control from Playstore maybe?
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I use poweramp.
It really help you. Give a try.
Do not use any third party equalizer app with Poweramp,use it's own eq .
I use CM's audiofx since it has somewhat subtle enhancement, aggressive sound tweak is nice but after 10 minutes or so, it tends to hurt my (old) ears. So most of the time I turn off EQ in order to preserve original sound, not that always works though, especially when it comes to mainstream records.
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I use Shuttle as music player, bare in mind that every recording has a different mastering approach, thus volume levelling could be varied, especially on first pressed of classic records. Usually I am amplifying low signal wave records manually. But to keep away from such trouble, I suggest Spotify since it has normalizing feature, or turn on this feature if it is available in your music player.
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I am listening to my offline archive, not using Spotify etc. There is no way how the source file is affected - maybe one, but hundreds of tracks? Nope. If I have 67% volume or less set in my phone, sound is fine (but overall volume is low, since stock audio has no other amplifier. But when phone is set to 100%, no matter how loud I set car audio, sound gets wavy then. No other phone ever had this issue, I tried direct comparison as well.
I managed to do some test for a whole album on my way home, I could declare the volume level as well as connection was quite stable with no apparent bitrate drop. As a matter of fact it's superior than realme 2 pro which was suck big time in audio department. Although it is no comparison to my now dead lg V10, at this price point I can safely say I'm quite satisfied. The stereo is neither after market nor android auto.
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I managed to do some test for a whole album on my way home, I could declare the volume level as well as connection was quite stable with no apparent bitrate drop. As a matter of fact it's superior than realme 2 pro which was suck big time in audio department. Although it is no comparison to my now dead lg V10, at this price point I can safely say I'm quite satisfied. The stereo is neither after market nor android auto.
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Thank you for your efforts, so it looks like this is issue on my side. I already contacted seller and I will apply for warranty claim, because there's nothing more I can do.
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I am listening to my offline archive, not using Spotify etc. There is no way how the source file is affected - maybe one, but hundreds of tracks? Nope. If I have 67% volume or less set in my phone, sound is fine (but overall volume is low, since stock audio has no other amplifier. But when phone is set to 100%, no matter how loud I set car audio, sound gets wavy then. No other phone ever had this issue, I tried direct comparison as well.
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I also have the same problem with my Bluetooth headphones (Sony WH CH400) which does not happen on my Redmi 3S (PE 9).
Songs can't hit the high frequencies and sound gets lowered down.
I googled and apparently its the stock Bluetooth stack that doesn't let the bitrate go above certain amount and needs some patching which Asus may not do.
Check this https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software-hacking/improve-bluetooth-audio-quality-t3832615
@Junglista what did you do? found any workaround?
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@Junglista what did you do? found any workaround?
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Not yet, I read briefly the forum you advised, but I need to dig in a bit more. Anyway, even this the closest cause, I don't believe that this is issue is bitrate related (but I may be wrong). I still can hear high frequencies in music, but when bassy part comes in, it's like someone turns higher frequencies volume down, so you can hardly hear them. And when bass is gone, volume rises again to "match" volume of lower frequencies. I still did not apply for warranty claim, because according to the forum you posted, I don't want to give up early and try patching the stack (if I will be able to somehow). Nevertheless, I know exactly what reply I would receive after 30 days at after sales service - issue was not found.
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Thank you for your efforts, so it looks like this is issue on my side. I already contacted seller and I will apply for warranty claim, because there's nothing more I can do.
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Hey! Literally i have the same problem. I have the same phone 4 gb variant. I previously used a phone with dolby and now this phone sucks. I think every phone unit has the same problem.
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Not yet, I read briefly the forum you advised, but I need to dig in a bit more. Anyway, even this the closest cause, I don't believe that this is issue is bitrate related (but I may be wrong). I still can hear high frequencies in music, but when bassy part comes in, it's like someone turns higher frequencies volume down, so you can hardly hear them. And when bass is gone, volume rises again to "match" volume of lower frequencies. I still did not apply for warranty claim, because according to the forum you posted, I don't want to give up early and try patching the stack (if I will be able to somehow). Nevertheless, I know exactly what reply I would receive after 30 days at after sales service - issue was not found.
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I've requested a developer to implement this in his rom. Let's wait and hope the issue to be addressed by our amazing community, else our only hope is Asus Pie update.
PS. I have the exact issue, maybe I explained poorly. lol.
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I've requested a developer to implement this in his rom. Let's wait and hope the issue to be addressed by our amazing community, else our only hope is Asus Pie update.
PS. I have the exact issue, maybe I explained poorly. lol.
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I have the same issue with audio quality via bluetooth. Hope Asus will fix it
rooos said:
I have the same issue with audio quality via bluetooth. Hope Asus will fix it
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I've reported the bug on ZenTalk. I encourage everyone to report there too because it should be Asus' duty to fix this bug on stock rom.
https://www.asus.com/zentalk/in/thread-266521-1-1.html
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I've reported the bug on ZenTalk. I encourage everyone to report there too because it should be Asus' duty to fix this bug on stock rom.
https://www.asus.com/zentalk/in/thread-266521-1-1.html
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I just put my comment there, hopefully things will start to move. Thanks for helping with this.
Smk_04 said:
Hey! Literally i have the same problem. I have the same phone 4 gb variant. I previously used a phone with dolby and now this phone sucks. I think every phone unit has the same problem.
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Hey i found a way to tweak up things. The new omni player is on xda. It has a setting called output method. Select the OPEN SL ES. .ur problem will be solved.
App link: https://www-xda--developers-com.cdn...esign-audio-google-cast-android-auto-support/