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I would really like to flash more and do more stuff, but I hate restoring my data/applications each time I do it. I have tried Titanium and Mybackup, and haven't had a positive outcome of either. Here were my experiences:
Titanium - When restoring the applications, it went through each and every application, and the installer asked me if I wanted to install or not. Was very time consuming considering how many applications I had. Also didn't seem to restore application data or market links
MyBackup - Seemed to do what I wanted. Backed up phone logs, messaging, apps, data, etc. The problem is that my last time running it, I flashed a new ROM, and upon restoring, it continously force closed without restoring any data. I contacted MyBackup support, and they wanted me to send them the ZIP file, which I didn't want to do, due to private information in the phone logs and SMS logs.
What do you guys use for backup/restore, and what are your experiences??? Does it back up apps, data, logs (phone & SMS), etc?
I use this-
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=951269
Milkman00 said:
I would really like to flash more and do more stuff, but I hate restoring my data/applications each time I do it. I have tried Titanium and Mybackup, and haven't had a positive outcome of either. Here were my experiences:
Titanium - When restoring the applications, it went through each and every application, and the installer asked me if I wanted to install or not. Was very time consuming considering how many applications I had. Also didn't seem to restore application data or market links
MyBackup - Seemed to do what I wanted. Backed up phone logs, messaging, apps, data, etc. The problem is that my last time running it, I flashed a new ROM, and upon restoring, it continously force closed without restoring any data. I contacted MyBackup support, and they wanted me to send them the ZIP file, which I didn't want to do, due to private information in the phone logs and SMS logs.
What do you guys use for backup/restore, and what are your experiences??? Does it back up apps, data, logs (phone & SMS), etc?
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You should try the paid version of Titanium Backup. it allows you to do batch app backup, so you don't have keep clicking one by one. it doesn't backup phone logs or sms but Mybackup Root does that. So you could use both in conjuction along with nandroid to flash around!
If you have linux or ubuntu, you can tar your whole system the way. After you have the tar, you can flash it just like a stock tar using odin. Your phone will be exactly the way it was when you created the tar.
I've been using MyBackup Root without any problems. I backup all apks and data, (except the rom based ones) and the phone data except the contacts and calendar. I restore contacts and calendar from gmail.
Haven't gotten an FC from it yet, but with 70 apks to restore it can take a while. I've recently gone back and forth between various Gingerbread and Froyo roms without issues.
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If you have linux or ubuntu, you can tar your whole system the way. After you have the tar, you can flash it just like a stock tar using odin. Your phone will be exactly the way it was when you created the tar.
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Do you know of links to threads with info on this?
I got ubuntu up and running on my Epic, but never went further.
I figure I can make a boot cd for ubuntu, but am unsure of what command to use to make the tar
Sure thing : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1059639
Word of advice, dont do this part, it bricked my epic the first time. Chris41g explains it at the end:
dd if=/dev/block/bml1 of=/sdcard/boot.bin bs=4096
dd if=/dev/block/bml4 of=/sdcard/sbl.bin bs=4096
dd if=/dev/block/bml8 of=/sdcard/recovery.bin bs=4096
dd if=/dev/block/bml6 of=/sdcard/param.lfs bs=4096
I have a computer set up with ubuntu. The tar was real easy to do following these instructions.
Nandroid backup is the easiest way, then advanced restore data and .android_secure, after that clear dalvik-cache. Delete /data/lost+found/* and /data/tombstones/*
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Sounds cool. Been looking for a way to tar my sgt. Think I can tar the modem and kernel out too? Not much going on in the tab section :-( figured I can't complain unless I'm going to try to help.
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You should try the paid version of Titanium Backup. it allows you to do batch app backup, so you don't have keep clicking one by one. it doesn't backup phone logs or sms but Mybackup Root does that. So you could use both in conjuction along with nandroid to flash around!
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I think OP is annoyed with the slow restoration process in TB (one-by-one, manual), not backing up via batch which is also available in the free version. Can you please confirm that the full version of Titanium Backup supports silent apk install/restore. Thanks.
A nandroid backup backs it all up, no need to reinstall anything... the only reason I keep mybackup root around is for when I want clean installs and the data only from 1 or 2 apps
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What about backing up and restoring when trying out new roms?
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I think OP is annoyed with the slow restoration process in TB (one-by-one, manual), not backing up via batch which is also available in the free version. Can you please confirm that the full version of Titanium Backup supports silent apk install/restore. Thanks.
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Titanium Backup Pro definitely has batch backup and restore without the one-by-one confirmations. Just hit "restore all apps" and let it go. You can also uncheck apps before it begins the batch, or use its filtering function, to batch-restore only some of your apps.
Nandroid backups are great, and faster, but they fail when there are major differences between your current ROM and the one you are about to flash. In these cases, or whenever anything goes crazy, Titanium is a real life-saver. Easily the best money I've spent on any app.
Well I'm gonna try out the nandroid restore to see how effective it is. I flashed the same rom and it's restoring 'data' at the moment... should I bother restoring system or boot?
Only do data and .android secure.. the clear dalvik cache
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I restored data only and it resulted in lockups on screen off.
I restored data+system and it seems to be running fine.
Is .android secure restored manually using a file explorer?
My backup root is amazing. I use it all the time. It must have been FCing because of the rom and/or bad flash.
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Back up your data before moving to a new rom
This guide is for rooted phones, and all work on my galaxy s2 but should work with most phones.
So you have decided to go for a new rom, but are worried about loosing all your apps, game saves, data, contacts, sms etc.. Well here is my little guide to restoring most of it. (Why only most, well moving to a new rom means that some apps and data are not compatible). We are going to break it down into apps to use and then the process.
Install App Extractor after you have flashed your new rom
Just a note all software that uses access the root of your phone can come with problems, although i have not experienced them my self it can still happen.
Apps
1. Rom Manager
Must have app for any root user. Make backups, flash ROMs, and own your device.
ROM Manager is THE MUST HAVE APP for any Android root user. (Over 3 million downloads and counting!)
(You can back up your rom through recover boot)
2. Titanium Backup root
Titanium Backup is the most powerful backup tool on Android, and then some.
You can backup, restore, freeze (with Pro) your apps + data + Market links. This includes all protected apps & system apps, plus external data on your SD card. You can do 0-click batch & scheduled backups. Backups will operate without closing any apps (with Pro). You can move any app (or app data) to/from the SD card. You can browse any app's data and even query the Market to see detailed information about the app.
3. App Extractor
AppExtractor is a tool which will allow you to restore individual applications, data, SMS, and MMS messages from your ROM Manager backups.
AppExtractor is compatible with ClockworkMod Recovery 5 backups as well as backups created by previous versions of ClockworkMod Recovery.
The process
1. Ok the process. First you will need to backup your whole rom, so go into Rom Manager and click on backup current rom, once it have backed up your rom you phone will reboot. ( Backing up your rom means you can revert back to it if you are not happy with your new rom)
a. You can also do a full rom backup straight from recovery mode (safer), to do this boot into recovery mode (hold - power,home and volume up). Then use the volume buttons to scroll to backup and restore (press power button to select), then click backup, it should start a full back up of your rom for you (2-3 mins to back up), once it has finished click reboot system now. Done - Thanks to MistahBungle for prompting this edit
2. once you have done that go into Titanium Backup and click menu and go into Batch. Then click on Run for Backup all user apps (dont back up system data we will soft that out later), then click run batch operation.
3. You can now flash your new rom, i am not going to tell you how to that.
4. Once your new rom is up and running then it is time to receive all that data, apps, setting, contacts etc.
5. First go to the android market and download Titanium backup and App recovery again
6. now open Titanium Backup and go back into Batch scroll down to restore and click run on restore missing apps with data. ( not all the apps will download as some won't be compatible). There you go most of your apps are now restored with their original data
7. Now go to App Extractor and open that, you will see the choice to restore things like, apps, sms and mms, contacts, wifi etc. Just click which ever you want to restore and then select the correct back up (the one you made with rom manager). You can only restore 5 items a day, and yet again not all you setting and data can be restored because of the different rom types.
8. Enjoy your new rom
If anyone thinks i have missed anything ir has more they would like to add then let me know.
Backing up EFS folder
Ok so backing up your efs folder, i am not expert in this area but everyone should know that this file is very important and rooting and flashing roms could cause it to become corrupt. So the fix trying to keep it as simple as possible like the rest of the guide, you need to download Ktook by Hellcatdroid here is a little somthing from Google Play - Tool for a few functions after rooting. Kernel dump/flash, EFS backup/restore...
/!\ Requires Root /!\
/!\ Works on the >Galaxy S2< and >Galaxy Note< *ONLY* /!\
(i) the "lock pattern bug" is currently being investigated and worked on!
kTool is a small tool originally bundled with Hellcat's Root-Kernel for the Galaxy S2.
It offers a few functions usefull after rooting the device:
- Dump current kernel to /sdcard/zImage
- Flash kernel from /sdcard/zImage
- Backup the phone's EFS (sensitive storage are holding the IMEI and other vital data) as a raw .IMG dump and a .tar archive
- Restoring EFS from the raw .IMG or the .tar backup
- Format EFS (create fresh filesystem for cases where you want to restore seperate files or a .tar backup, but the filesystem is stuck/locked in read-only due to corruption)
- Reboot (normal, directely to recovery or directely to downlaod mode)
If you encounter any problems or issues, or if you have any questions or suggestions, visit the release thread on XDA
Some people don't like this app and some like myself love it, as it says above it will only work on Galaxy S2< and >Galaxy Note, but if you check out the thread it might work for other devices.
Other apps
Backdrop Root - BackDrop Root allows you to backup and restore your applications, data, SMS / MMS messages, Wifi settings, Bluetooth pairings, and more to and from from Dropbox.
Backdrop Root provides a simple and intuitive interface for managing your backups.
The free version of BackDrop Root will let you backup and restore 5 applications / data backups at a time.
Thanks - albsat
Nandroid Browser - Nandroid Browser has a really simple purpose: Extract and use single files from your nandroid backups.
* Browse your nandroid backups
* Save files anywhere
* Send files
* Open Files
Rom Toolbox - ROM Toolbox is the MUST HAVE app for any rooted user. Easily email single apps and files from your nandroid backups or send them to your dropbox or wherever...
ROM Toolbox combines all the great root apps all tied up into one monster app with a beautiful and user-friendly interface. It also adds many more unseen features!
This app requires root permission. For fast and friendly support please email us at [email protected]. We will be glad to help answer your questions and troubleshoot with you.
Some of the extra features in the pro version:
☆ Backup/restore data
☆ Batch operations enabled
☆ Remove ads
☆ Preview boot animations
☆ Customize your status bar by installing battery, 4g/3g/1x, wifi, gps, signal icons.
☆ Advanced app freezer
☆ Remove ads
☆ Unlock Root Browser features
☆ Much More....
1. Rom Manager
Must have app for any root user. Make backups, flash ROMs, and own your device.
ROM Manager is THE MUST HAVE APP for any Android root user. (Over 3 million downloads and counting!)
An app that is known to give problems on CWM rooted SGS2 .
jje
I have used rom manager for many things and never had any problems with it, maybe I am lucky but not heard anything about anyone have problems with it
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I have used rom manager for many things and never had any problems with it, maybe I am lucky but not heard anything about anyone have problems with it
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Search the forum then is all i can say multiple help posts where rom manger has been the root of problems .
jje
JJEgan said:
Search the forum then is all i can say multiple help posts where rom manger has been the root of problems .
jje
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Surely any software that exploites the root of your phone could have problems, although i will make a chasnge to the post adding that you can back up your rom from boot and that all software that uses root access can come with problems.
Everything was going great until I got to the last step, restoring sms(the only thing I cared about) with app extractor. It turned the sreen black and then it went on again, but it didn't do anything else, the sms still were not restored =(
if you ask me titanium back up does the job for it all, and if you want to make sure you get all of your apps back, just backup the apps listed in the data folder in the root of your phone.
And when your on CWM recovery might be better of using CWM manager.
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An app that is known to give problems on CWM rooted SGS2 .
jje
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+ lots this. Rom Manager *will* cause you problems if you continue to use it/have it installed with CWM. It will either break CW or cause you bootloops.
Use one or the other.
You may get away with it for a while, but when you least expect it (maybe that time you don't do a Nandroid of your last good config when you should have), it will bite you on the arse.
Edit to add - OP, I like the idea of what you're doing. Great to see a n00b having a bash But if you've rooted your phone with CFRoot or are running a kernel with CW, you're much better off using it to do your Nandroid backup than potentially causing problems with Rom Manager, which is popular because it's *easy* (apparently, I never found anything difficult about using CW). If anyone doesn't like/is too lazy to boot directly into recovery to do backups, use the CWM app. Same diff as Rom Manager without all the dramas. Other than this, good job
Great idea. I love these kind of posts no matter what others say. Knowledge sharing makes people, a better one.
My tips, but here you don't save data and use CWM and Backdrop Root aps only:
1) Do a Nandroid back from CWM.
2) Export Contacts as a VCF file. There is a new program recently Backdrop Root that backup sms, contacts, mms, bluetooth, etc in Dropbox. Try it. There is also a nice program called SuperBackup which does a similar thing.
3) Save your Apps through a File Manager as apk and save in external sd, computer or Dropbox.
4) Forget data... Many people use Titanium but I need to buy it.
5) Install new Rom, restore sms+contacts, install apps from beginning.
Apps extractor in conjunction with Nandroidback would had been the best solution, but unfortunately I didn't get a lot of success with this app.
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+ lots this. Rom Manager *will* cause you problems if you continue to use it/have it installed with CWM. It will either break CW or cause you bootloops.
Use one or the other.
You may get away with it for a while, but when you least expect it (maybe that time you don't do a Nandroid of your last good config when you should have), it will bite you on the arse.
Edit to add - OP, I like the idea of what you're doing. Great to see a n00b having a bash But if you've rooted your phone with CFRoot or are running a kernel with CW, you're much better off using it to do your Nandroid backup than potentially causing problems with Rom Manager, which is popular because it's *easy* (apparently, I never found anything difficult about using CW). If anyone doesn't like/is too lazy to boot directly into recovery to do backups, use the CWM app. Same diff as Rom Manager without all the dramas. Other than this, good job
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Thanks i have made some changes based on your recomedation
You are restricted to 5 bits of data a day on app recovery, it could also be a compatible issue.
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Step 7 says "App recovery", do you mean "App extractor"? Sorry just want to confirm.
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Yes I do,
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Wiki: Android ROM Update
Wiki: Android ROM Update
How to restore your apps, data and settings after Android ROM Update using Titanium Backup (TB).
forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/Android_ROM_Update
Cheers
Tom
Sorry but can I ask why that has been put their
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Thanks for this guide, it's great.
Kaiser Z
Happy to help
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Sorry but can I ask why that has been put their
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s.d.oconnor said:
Could you made this a sticky as you dont have anything like it yet - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1502526
Guide on how to back up and restore your data before moving to a new rom
thanks
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You said that you don't have anything like your guide on how to back up and restore. The wiki is just that so I shared it.
Cheers
Tom
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Thanks for the guide. Does it work on ics? I've heard titanium backup have some issues with it
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Angel.CT said:
Thanks for the guide. Does it work on ics? I've heard titanium backup have some issues with it
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It should work with ICS, it's only a matter of time before the apps catch up with it and they should run a smooth as they do on GB
So basically I needed an an APK for an older version of an app and it had already been overwritten. I allow 3 copies of backups with TiBu but my scheduled "redo backups for modified data" overwrites them quite often. I end up with 3 backups of the same app but they're all for the same version. The old version gets deleted because my scheduled "redo backups with modified data" detects new data and then does a new backup.
I wish it would only update the data and not the APK? What's the point of constantly updating the APK for an app when the version is still the same.
Yes, I want it to constantly update the data so I have the latest backup all the time, but it would be nice if it could do that and always save the last 2-3 APK versions as well...
Am I totally missing something here is it just the way it works for now? Thanks for any help!
jeffreii said:
So basically I needed an an APK for an older version of an app and it had already been overwritten. I allow 3 copies of backups with TiBu but my scheduled "redo backups for modified data" overwrites them quite often. I end up with 3 backups of the same app but they're all for the same version. The old version gets deleted because my scheduled "redo backups with modified data" detects new data and then does a new backup.
I wish it would only update the data and not the APK? What's the point of constantly updating the APK for an app when the version is still the same.
Yes, I want it to constantly update the data so I have the latest backup all the time, but it would be nice if it could do that and always save the last 2-3 APK versions as well...
Am I totally missing something here is it just the way it works for now? Thanks for any help!
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There is an option to update 'app only', 'app + data', 'data only'.
Do you have an old Nandroid with the older version of the app available? If so just go into your Nandroid backup and pull out that APK.
blyndfyre said:
There is an option to update 'app only', 'app + data', 'data only'.
Do you have an old Nandroid with the older version of the app available? If so just go into your Nandroid backup and pull out that APK.
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Hi and thanks for the response!
Can you please tell me where you see that option? I've seen those options when restoring backups...it lets you pick what to restore...but I can't seem to find an option like that for backups...
Thanks again.
jeffreii said:
Hi and thanks for the response!
Can you please tell me where you see that option? I've seen those options when restoring backups...it lets you pick what to restore...but I can't seem to find an option like that for backups...
Thanks again.
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Maybe I'm mistaken and the Titanium Backup Script will not allow that. Did you have the old APK in an old Nandroid backup?
You can try either of these apps from the Play Store. They both allow you to back up data only:
My Backup
DataSync
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Maybe I'm mistaken and the Titanium Backup Script will not allow that. Did you have the old APK in an old Nandroid backup?/... DataSync
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Good Recommendation! there often are older versions of the app in nandroid backups, and TIBU will allow restore from Nandroid backups. :angel:
1. Go to the Main Menu
2. Scroll down to the Special Backup/Restore Menu (5th topic down)
3. select "EXTRACT FROM NANDROID BACKUP"
4. you will get a listing of all your nandroid backups and you can chose the one you want to take the app from.
5. It will take a bit to analyze the Nandroid and present you with the files menu.
6. Choose the file(s) you need to restore and do it!
jeffreii: So basically I needed an an APK for an older version of an app and it had already been overwritten.
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#1. Since you may have already "lost" the old version of the app because it has been updated, then to find an oilder version you could check some of the other app stores that frequently offer older versions of apps -some app stores have a listing of ALL versions of (some) apps! . . . so you can check them and see if you can find the older version --or even email the author of the app...:cyclops:
#2. Once you get your old app back, one option is to make a copy of the "good version" of that app from your apps directory and place it on your SD card or a data directory and keep overwriting the "new" app when the author publishes a new version.:good: :good:
#3. Also, once you get you app back (hopefully!) It sounds to me like you should turn off PLAY STORE AUTOMATIC UPDATING for this app. You do this once and then allow selective apps to auto update -but not allow global updating of apps. SO manually permit or don't permit updates depending upon the app (I do that with my Kindle Fire HD, since play wants to update the Amazon store -but that breaks the built in Kindle store, so I don't allow that app to update automatically).
Good Luck!
blyndfyre said:
Maybe I'm mistaken and the Titanium Backup Script will not allow that. Did you have the old APK in an old Nandroid backup?
You can try either of these apps from the Play Store. They both allow you to back up data only:
My Backup
DataSync
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I can't find the old APK in my backups (TiBu and Nandroids). I've made another thread to ask for help finding it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2380165
This thread I'd like to get help with TiBu though!
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Good Recommendation! there often are older versions of the app in nandroid backups, and TIBU will allow restore from Nandroid backups. :angel:
1. Go to the Main Menu
2. Scroll down to the Special Backup/Restore Menu (5th topic down)
3. select "EXTRACT FROM NANDROID BACKUP"
4. you will get a listing of all your nandroid backups and you can chose the one you want to take the app from.
5. It will take a bit to analyze the Nandroid and present you with the files menu.
6. Choose the file(s) you need to restore and do it!
jeffreii: So basically I needed an an APK for an older version of an app and it had already been overwritten.
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#1. Since you may have already "lost" the old version of the app because it has been updated, then to find an oilder version you could check some of the other app stores that frequently offer older versions of apps -some app stores have a listing of ALL versions of (some) apps! . . . so you can check them and see if you can find the older version --or even email the author of the app...:cyclops:
#2. Once you get your old app back, one option is to make a copy of the "good version" of that app from your apps directory and place it on your SD card or a data directory and keep overwriting the "new" app when the author publishes a new version.:good: :good:
#3. Also, once you get you app back (hopefully!) It sounds to me like you should turn off PLAY STORE AUTOMATIC UPDATING for this app. You do this once and then allow selective apps to auto update -but not allow global updating of apps. SO manually permit or don't permit updates depending upon the app (I do that with my Kindle Fire HD, since play wants to update the Amazon store -but that breaks the built in Kindle store, so I don't allow that app to update automatically).
Good Luck!
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I checked my old Nandroids/TiBu backups but could not find the APK - did that before making this thread. Trust me I have automatic updating off...I like to read change logs before accepting any updates.
My problem with TiBu is still unaddressed though...even if I allow TiBu to keep, say, 5 backups of each app...if I have a scheduled backup to "redo backups with modified data" and the data is modified in a certain app each time, once that runs 5 times I will have 5 backups of the same version APK along with 5 separate data points.
The 5 separate data points are exactly what you'd want...but if creating 5 APKs of the same version of the app ends up deleting the 6th backup which had the older APK version...what's the point of that? I'm left with 5 identical APKs and the older version, which I actually wanted, got to deleted because TiBu needed to backup the data.
Does that make sense?
markbc01 said:
... The 5 separate data points are exactly what you'd want...but if creating 5 APKs of the same version of the app ends up deleting the 6th backup which had the older APK version...what's the point of that? I'm left with 5 identical APKs and the older version, which I actually wanted, got to deleted because TiBu needed to backup the data. Does that make sense?
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OK, I think I get it. TIBU will backup all copies it sees but it is not "smart enough" to preserve versions per se. (I may be wrong -but that's what I see so far). The six copies you mention are time based vice version based, so it's good logic for what it does. It just does not save based on versions. . . Perhaps that is an option we should ask the developer for! I think the focus of the frequent multiple backups is primarily on data, so it's good , but maybe not enough!
I just checked my own backups. I have max backup history of 5 and those 5 backups are done one by one over a two week period (of course). So I have many copies of each app that are identical --except when changes occur. Most apps right now have 5 identical copies, but for 7Zipper, Handnote and Gmail,(for example) each of them has two versions. I won't lose the "older versions" of these apps for a week or so, but after that they will disappear if I want ot save those older versions, well, I would have to take one of the measures that I mentioned before (copying over to another directory etc.)
I was going to ask -since you turned off auto updates-- how the app got updated, but I have discovered that even when I do that there is the occassional app that updates anyway -because I inadvertently said yes to some prompt, or perhaps the author had some auto update feature that I could not block. . .
Sorry I can't give you a better solution. . .
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OK, I think I get it. TIBU will backup all copies it sees but it is not "smart enough" to preserve versions per se. (I may be wrong -but that's what I see so far). The six copies you mention are time based vice version based, so it's good logic for what it does. It just does not save based on versions. . . Perhaps that is an option we should ask the developer for! I think the focus of the frequent multiple backups is primarily on data, so it's good , but maybe not enough!
I just checked my own backups. I have max backup history of 5 and those 5 backups are done one by one over a two week period (of course). So I have many copies of each app that are identical --except when changes occur. Most apps right now have 5 identical copies, but for 7Zipper, Handnote and Gmail,(for example) each of them has two versions. I won't lose the "older versions" of these apps for a week or so, but after that they will disappear if I want ot save those older versions, well, I would have to take one of the measures that I mentioned before (copying over to another directory etc.)
I was going to ask -since you turned off auto updates-- how the app got updated, but I have discovered that even when I do that there is the occassional app that updates anyway -because I inadvertently said yes to some prompt, or perhaps the author had some auto update feature that I could not block. . .
Sorry I can't give you a better solution. . .
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It sounds like you get my point now! Basically, TiBu should be smart enough to backup data and app apks as separate items. When I say keep 3 copies, it should look at those separately...keep the 3 last APK versions and keep the 3 last data backups...not combine them and overwrite APK versions just because data got updated too.
What happened was I updated the app two weeks ago and everything was fine...I then switched to Goldeneye 4.0 ROM and the WatchESPN app wouldn't load anymore. I read other people in the Play Store had the same problem...so I am guessing that perhaps it's an international firmware issue...since it still works fine when I switch back to AT&T stock MDL. The second data is that some of those complaining in the Play Store reviews are saying "since the last update, it doesn't load"...so I'm thinking maybe the latest update broke something for international firmware versions...so if I can find the old version that might work...but no way to test it without getting the APK.
Ok, you are right about the apps vs. Data thing exactly for the reasons you mention!
(Btw, I almost decided to try golden eye this weekend, but Shostock2.1 is running so well that I'll just use my phone for a while)..
I did a very quick look at some alternate android app stores on my phone just now, but am surprised that I have not found the watch-espn app...
The only other thing might be if you kept a copy of your sd card on your computer, and that copy might have an old nandroid with the app... that worked for me - when I wanted to restore and use flex t9 and the company had moved on to a swype version I did not like as much...
Good luck (I'll continue to scan for old versions of watchespn when I get on a desktop..)
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markbc01 said:
Ok, you are right about the apps vs. Data thing exactly for the reasons you mention!
(Btw, I almost decided to try golden eye this weekend, but Shostock2.1 is running so well that I'll just use my phone for a while)..
I did a very quick look at some alternate android app stores on my phone just now, but am surprised that I have not found the watch-espn app...
The only other thing might be if you kept a copy of your sd card on your computer, and that copy might have an old nandroid with the app... that worked for me - when I wanted to restore and use flex t9 and the company had moved on to a swype version I did not like as much...
Good luck (I'll continue to scan for old versions of watchespn when I get on a desktop..)
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Thanks! If I hadn't used all 8 of my thanks clicks for the day I'd give you one. First thing tomorrow though!
If you find any leads let me know in my WatchESPN request thread (linked above). It needs to be bumped anyways and I am not supposed to bump it until 24 hours! lol
I'm still surprised I can't find any other threads/discussion about this issue.
I'd really think that one of the priorities of the backup is to keep old apk versions in case you want to roll back...
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So I realized today that TiBu doesn't actually keep multiple copies of the same APK - it is smart enough to know they're the same and save space by only keeping one, no matter how many data backups you have.
However, if you have multiple versions of the APK, it will keep both versions...until the data that was backed up at the same time as the old APK version gets deleted...then the old APK version will be deleted as well.
I sent a support email to the dev of TiBu asking this question...will post here if I get a response.
Thanks, I've used TIBU as long as I have had android phones and still didn't realize that version saving was missing -or that TIBU saves only one copy of each version. It's such s good app..I bet the author will reply and may add that extra functionality...
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Thanks, I've used TIBU as long as I have had android phones and still didn't realize that version saving was missing -or that TIBU saves only one copy of each version. It's such s good app..I bet the author will reply and may add that extra functionality...
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I hope so.
Almost 5 days since I emailed them and no response yet.
an idea is to make a special backup to google drive or box or drop box and save a backup there with the configuration you like and leave it there. . .sort of as a safe haven for when the devs update the apps in a way that doesn't do good things for your phone!
not a perfect solution, but at least it does push the app(s) somewhere out of the way in an automated manner. . .
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an idea is to make a special backup to google drive or box or drop box and save a backup there with the configuration you like and leave it there. . .sort of as a safe haven for when the devs update the apps in a way that doesn't do good things for your phone!
not a perfect solution, but at least it does push the app(s) somewhere out of the way in an automated manner. . .
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Yeah but there's no "configuration I like". You never know when you're going to update an app and find out later that you want to roll back...
Any update to this Issue?
Could this have Something to do with this option?:
Batch Mode Settings:
Min age (days) For refresh,
For some reason it doesn't seem to work. When I look at the play store reviews, they say that Titanium Backup doesn't work well restoring apps with 4.3. For me it just hangs at 0%. 4.3 has been out for a while, what have people been using?
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For some reason it doesn't seem to work. When I look at the play store reviews, they say that Titanium Backup doesn't work well restoring apps with 4.3. For me it just hangs at 0%. 4.3 has been out for a while, what have people been using?
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Hi, andrewdroid...
Yes, I've just been looking at the reviews you mention, and I must admit, I'm puzzled.
I've been running Jellybean 4.3 (recently updated to build JWR66Y) since the beginning of August, and I've had no problems with restoring apps from Titanium.
I recall, during the first few days of JB 4.3, there where issues with Titanium, and the recommended advice was to change the backup path (where you're backups are stored) as follows...
Go to... Titanium>>Menu>>Backup folder location...
...and navigate (using the back button) to /storage/emulated/legacy/TitaniumBackup ...and select 'Use the current folder'.
And at the time, this worked for me. But subsequent updates to Titanium fixed the problem, and my backup path is now the more technically correct /storage/emulated/0/TitaniumBackup.
Titanium will offer to move the files to the new location, but in the event, nothing actually gets moved, because the locations are actually identical... just different ways of specifying the same location.
So, you could try modifying your backup path location in Titanium settings as outlined above, using either of the two 'paths' I've given. I've just tried both, and in both instances, my backups restored flawlessly.
I've no idea if this will work for you, but I do know there was an issue back in the early part of August, and the 'legacy' path fixed it for me... maybe it might for you.
Hope this helps... and good luck.
Rgrds,
Ged.
Just completed my first root and flashed my tablet to cyanogenmod. I'd like to thank this community for making it so simple. It seemed like a lot of reading but every instruction had a purpose and i understood it more as the process went along. I had no problem throughout the process due to the very detailed instructions here on this forum.
However, I seem to have made one mistake. I used TiBu to backup my apps and data. However, i failed to make the update.zip folder as i didn't think about losing the app when i flashed to the new rom. When i check my device, there is a huge titanium backup folder.
Is there a way i can restore my apps and data from the tibu folder, or did i lose it all by not creating the update.zip folder?
Im afraid to just reinstall TiBu in case it overwrites the old folder.
This is the only problem I had with the whole process and appreciate any help or suggestions.
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Just completed my first root and flashed my tablet to cyanogenmod. I'd like to thank this community for making it so simple. It seemed like a lot of reading but every instruction had a purpose and i understood it more as the process went along. I had no problem throughout the process due to the very detailed instructions here on this forum.
However, I seem to have made one mistake. I used TiBu to backup my apps and data. However, i failed to make the update.zip folder as i didn't think about losing the app when i flashed to the new rom. When i check my device, there is a huge titanium backup folder.
Is there a way i can restore my apps and data from the tibu folder, or did i lose it all by not creating the update.zip folder?
Im afraid to just reinstall TiBu in case it overwrites the old folder.
This is the only problem I had with the whole process and appreciate any help or suggestions.
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Rename the huge titanium backup folder, install TiBu, delete new folder and rename huge titanium backup folder back to original name.
I have a 64GB Nexus 6P and am upgrading to 128GB. I backed up and restored via TWRP. I removed security before the backup. However, when I restore, I can't add a Nexus Imprint - it keeps saying enrollment was unsuccessful before it even lets me try to read my fingerprint. However, if I do a clean wipe & install, the fingerprint reader works fine.
Any suggestions?
seems to me something i borked in your backup. probably just going to have to start fresh. unless... of course... your backup contains a probram or xposed module that could be causing the problem. then it would just be a process of elimination to determine which one.
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seems to me something i borked in your backup. probably just going to have to start fresh. unless... of course... your backup contains a probram or xposed module that could be causing the problem. then it would just be a process of elimination to determine which one.
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I've tried it twice (full cycle, backup, wipe, restore) with the same issue. I haven't installed Xposed yet.
I don't think this can be a program issue, I think Google added something at the OS level.
I hate starting fresh. Even with Titanium Backup, it takes forever.
That happened to me as well. Only way that worked was a complete clean flash for me.
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I've tried it twice (full cycle, backup, wipe, restore) with the same issue. I haven't installed Xposed yet.
I don't think this can be a program issue, I think Google added something at the OS level.
I hate starting fresh. Even with Titanium Backup, it takes forever.
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I don't know if it's just my experience, but TiBu takes for-EVAR to restore APKs (not data, thats fast). Just forget it for any sizable app like Chrome or Facebook. So, I started using another app called AppWererabbit strictly for purposes of backing up/restoring APKs. With root privileges, it'll batch install over 100 apps fast. Then for a subset of apps that are non-trivial to set back up, i'll use TiBu to restore the data. Unfortunately AppWererabbit seems broken on Marshmallow for me. Also, Pro key is needed to do anything worthwhile.
I've looked into using TiBu's feature for creating flashable zip's to skip all that but it has yet to work for me a single time. I have, however, had promising results with some modest testing of this app called ZipMe that is in beta (also, tested on a Nook HD+ not Nexus6P)
Also, am I to understand you are trying to restore a nandroid for one device onto another?
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Also, am I to understand you are trying to restore a nandroid for one device onto another?
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Yes. This should work since they're both Nexus 6P devices.
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I've looked into using TiBu's feature for creating flashable zip's to skip all that but it has yet to work for me a single time. I have, however, had promising results with some modest testing of this app called ZipMe that is in beta (also, tested on a Nook HD+ not Nexus6P
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Thanks for the app recommendations. I tried ZipMe, it didn't work. Or at least I couldn't tell that it worked... It processed for hours but there wasn't an output zip.
Yeah, not impressed with Titanium Backup right now, either. Pretty frustrating experience overall.
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Thanks for the app recommendations. I tried ZipMe, it didn't work. Or at least I couldn't tell that it worked... It processed for hours but there wasn't an output zip.
Yeah, not impressed with Titanium Backup right now, either. Pretty frustrating experience overall.
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I did some testing on app2zip https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=scd.app2zip
Made 5 zips of the same simple (nonsystem) calculator app. Got 5 different md5s. LOLNOPE...running, not walking, away from that app because I dislike bootloops and misery.
I have same problem. Did you find a solution or did you started fresh?
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I have same problem. Did you find a solution or did you started fresh?
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It's a bug with TWRP and the 6p, after restore in TWRP, use the TWRP file manager navigate to /data/system and delete locksettings.db file. Reboot and the secured lockscreen will be gone, just set up a pattern lock again and the secured lockscreen will work as normal with your saved fingerprints.
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It's a bug with TWRP and the 6p, after restore in TWRP, use the TWRP file manager navigate to /data/system and delete locksettings.db file. Reboot and the secured lockscreen will be gone, just set up a pattern lock again and the secured lockscreen will work as normal with your saved fingerprints.
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For this problem deleting locksettings.db is not working. This is different problem than you talked about.
It's been discovered in other threads that there is a hardware key associated with the fingerprint scanner. Which means you can't restore a TWRP data backup from one device to another. That sucks bc this is my main motivation for keep a TWRP backup. Hopefully, a solution will be found.
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For this problem deleting locksettings.db is not working. This is different problem than you talked about.
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It's been discovered in other threads that there is a hardware key associated with the fingerprint scanner. Which means you can't restore a TWRP data backup from one device to another. That sucks bc this is my main motivation for keep a TWRP backup. Hopefully, a solution will be found.
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I don't know about transferring devices but restoring a backup and then using the twrp built in file manager to delete locksettings.db is what I do with my backups. And it works every time.
Right, that works for restoring TWRP backup to same device. But if you get another 6p for any reason, and then restore this same backup to it, the fingerprint scanner will not work.