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Root & Custom recovery for 4.4.2?

Hi there,
I have stock rom and just updated to KitKat 4.4.2. Any chance if I can get root & custom recovery over here?

which version of G2 do you have? if its D802 then u can follow this suggestion
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2681205

zekurosu said:
which version of G2 do you have? if its D802 then u can follow this suggestion
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2681205
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I look through and this procedure can follow if you are still in JB rom. But now, I already on KitKat stock rom 4.4.2. I just need to root it & download the recovery. Is IORoot compatible for 4.4.2 root?

i believe there's still no root or recovery for 4.4.2 KitKat LG rom yet..
u need to go back to 4.2.2 to retain root & recovery when upgrading using the method listed in that thread

zekurosu said:
i believe there's still no root or recovery for 4.4.2 KitKat LG rom yet..
u need to go back to 4.2.2 to retain root & recovery when upgrading using the method listed in that thread
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OK..In that case will wait for root + recovery when it available. No point downgrade back to 4.2.2 cause KitKat rom now is super smooth and fast.

you can update to 4.4.2 again after you have root and custom recovery
downgrade -> root -> upgrade -> be happy

There is root for stock 4.4.2 but U have to install it from 4.2.2 with that guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2680789
For now the downgrade to 4.2.2 is only need for install stock 4.4.2 and root then You will have stock KK rooted
for custom recovery for stock KK we must wait

lipaaa said:
There is root for stock 4.4.2 but U have to install it from 4.2.2 with that guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2680789
For now the downgrade to 4.2.2 is only need for install stock 4.4.2 and root then You will have stock KK rooted
for custom recovery for stock KK we must wait
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I tried this yesterday and nearly bricked my phone.I downgraded from 4.4.2 then rooted with ioroot24 then got freegee to install twrp..all was good until i tried to flash the 4.4.2 rom in twrp it keep failing when i came out of twrp and rebooted BAM i was stuck at boot screen and device would do nothing.
After hours and hours of trying all sorts i managed to flash back to 4.4.2 EUR open using the offline fix and messing with everything to get the device recognised in the flashtool.. even had the back off and disconnected battery maybe that did it but this only worked after attempting it 20 or so times the planets must have been aligned or something as nothing worked until then..Phew...SO be super careful is what i am trying to say.

I don't say "be super careful" I'll say if U dont feel good with that staff, READ carefully everything!
everybody got own story, is normal, and my story is short I think, but I'm few years in the "bussines"
After I buyed my G2 had stock 4.2 and I've put KK CM on it, after stock KK shows, I've downgrade to stock 4.2, rooted and installed twrp with no problem, then puting via twrp stock KK and root and thats it
the only problem I was have is with downgrade to 4.2 stock via offline method but that was my antivisrus blocked LG update tool (but I've managet it) and then rest was easy
In every GUIDE or threat You can post Your problem and people helps You, I know that by myself. but 95% problems is because peoples makes mistakes becouse of don't carefuly READ guids or help posts in threat, they only read last one post... and I know that with my experience

chaostan said:
OK..In that case will wait for root + recovery when it available. No point downgrade back to 4.2.2 cause KitKat rom now is super smooth and fast.
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"downgrade" doesnt mean you need to stay in 4.2.2, it means u flash 4.2.2 first to get root and recovery, then u can flash 4.4.2 and remain root and recovery, so end up you are using 4.4.2 and have both root and recovery

That what I was talking about about readings post...
Mate You wrote exactly the same thing that I wroted two post above....
emprize said:
"downgrade" doesnt mean you need to stay in 4.2.2, it means u flash 4.2.2 first to get root and recovery, then u can flash 4.4.2 and remain root and recovery, so end up you are using 4.4.2 and have both root and recovery
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Unfortunately the second part of Your post is not true... For now You will dont have recovery on 4.4.2, only root but not recovery, the recovery from 4.2 will be deleted
plus one more thing that root for 4.4.2 not remain but You must flash it too, after flash stock KK... I've puted link to GUIDE two post above too, but like I said, peoples don't reads carefuly guids and posts...
we still waiting for recovery for stock KK

lipaaa said:
That what I was talking about about readings post...
Mate You wrote exactly the same thing that I wroted two post above....
Unfortunately the second part of Your post is not true... For now You will dont have recovery on 4.4.2, only root but not recovery, the recovery from 4.2 will be deleted
plus one more thing that root for 4.4.2 not remain but You must flash it too, after flash stock KK... I've puted link to GUIDE two post above too, but like I said, peoples don't reads carefuly guids and posts...
we still waiting for recovery for stock KK
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Follow instructions carefully and u will done it, many people include me are using 4.4.2 with root and recovery.
If u dont want to downgrade to 4.2.2, u dont get root and recovery, if u want root and recovery, downgrade

Show me where is recovery for stock KK? we talking here about stock KK, from stock JB, read the posts man, read the first page, is only 2 pages thread...
that Guy wants recovery for stock KK not for custom rom, recovery for custom KK roms is an old story
show me recovery for stock KK and I will apologize, for now U must read posts carefuly

[Q] Secure boot, 4.4.2 & recovery

Hello everybody, i made some search on the forum but i didn't find the answer to my question, so i ask it here.
I'm actually on 4.4.2 stock rom, i'm rooted (it's not a pre-rooted 4.4.2 but i rooted it after with some weirds methods) anyway, i don't have recovery and when i try to access it i get a secure boot error, it's ok because i can boot on the desktop..
I want to know how can i get a 4.4.2 version rooted & with a recovery mode like twrp. Does i need to install a 4.4.2 stock pre-rooted with the recovery mode pre-installed ? If yes, how can i do this ?
I also received an lg update on my phone and at the send of the installations i got this message "Your device seems to be rooted, you can't update it".
Thank your for the help

Superdrac said:
Hello everybody, i made some search on the forum but i didn't find the answer to my question, so i ask it here.
I'm actually on 4.4.2 stock rom, i'm rooted (it's not a pre-rooted 4.4.2 but i rooted it after with some weirds methods) anyway, i don't have recovery and when i try to access it i get a secure boot error, it's ok because i can boot on the desktop..
I want to know how can i get a 4.4.2 version rooted & with a recovery mode like twrp. Does i need to install a 4.4.2 stock pre-rooted with the recovery mode pre-installed ? If yes, how can i do this ?
I also received an lg update on my phone and at the send of the installations i got this message "Your device seems to be rooted, you can't update it".
Thank your for the help
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From a rooted 4.4.2 stock:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2715496

6ril1 said:
From a rooted 4.4.2 stock:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2715496
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Thx !!! Work like a charm !
About the LG Software update, is there any way to make it ?

Superdrac said:
Thx !!! Work like a charm !
About the LG Software update, is there any way to make it ?
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Once you get the rooted flag while trying a software update the only way to get rid of it is by goofing back yo stock, also now that you have custom recovery if you try to it you will bootloop/soft brick
Sent from LG-G2 D800 on AEONFLEX 4.4.2

XxZombiePikachu said:
Once you get the rooted flag while trying a software update the only way to get rid of it is by goofing back yo stock, also now that you have custom recovery if you try to it you will bootloop/soft brick
Sent from LG-G2 D800 on AEONFLEX 4.4.2
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I saw your message a little bit to late unfortunatly... I was stuck on recovery.. It's ok now (thanks to the dd cmd)

Query before installing Cloudy G3 Rom

Hi
My LG G2 is currently running Software Version "D80220c" which is "Kitkat 4.4.2"
It's not rooted or anything. It's in devices stock form.
In order to install Cloudy G3 rom, what should i do?
Like root install some custom recovery and then the rom? (I am sort of new to these stuffs)
If there is a complete video instruction then please do share.
Thanks

in_core said:
Hi
My LG G2 is currently running Software Version "D80220c" which is "Kitkat 4.4.2"
It's not rooted or anything. It's in devices stock form.
In order to install Cloudy G3 rom, what should i do?
Like root install some custom recovery and then the rom? (I am sort of new to these stuffs)
If there is a complete video instruction then please do share.
Thanks
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You should root your device first(use towelroot to root your device, link: https://towelroot.com/ ) and after you done rooting, install authored for a custom recovery, link: http://www.droidviews.com/install-twrp-recovery-on-lg-g2-running-android-4-4-2-kitkat/, what phone carrier are you subscribed to?
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TechGirl90 said:
You should root your device first(use towelroot to root your device, link: https://towelroot.com/ ) and after you done rooting, install authored for a custom recovery, link: http://www.droidviews.com/install-twrp-recovery-on-lg-g2-running-android-4-4-2-kitkat/, what phone carrier are you subscribed to?
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I am using the D802 international unlocked version
I am currently running LG's Stock Kitkat firmware. In CloudyG3 thread they mentioned about flashing Kitkat baseband. Thats what actually got me confused as i already have official kitkat lg rom installed so if i need to do that

in_core said:
I am using the D802 international unlocked version
I am currently running LG's Stock Kitkat firmware. In CloudyG3 thread they mentioned about flashing Kitkat baseband. Thats what actually got me confused as i already have official kitkat lg rom installed so if i need to do that
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no there is no need to flash the kk baseband if you are already on official kk, it is placed in instructions of most kk roms to flash kk baseband because some people are going from jb to kk and they need kk baseband

in_core said:
I am using the D802 international unlocked version
I am currently running LG's Stock Kitkat firmware. In CloudyG3 thread they mentioned about flashing Kitkat baseband. Thats what actually got me confused as i already have official kitkat lg rom installed so if i need to do that
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The kit Kat baseband only applies if you already have a custom Rom installed (like Cyanogenmod, Paranoid Android, or Mahdi Rom, etc), and you're trying to flash CloudyG3 Rom, you'll need the kit Kat baseband for your variant for the Rom to recognize you device, but since you're stock rooted, no need to go through the kit Kat baseband procedure, just backup all of your files in TWRP, and proceed with the steps of installing CloudyG3 in the CloudyG3 Thread by the OP, good luck[emoji4][emoji106]
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The towelroot is supposed to say "Make it ra1n" but it says "ra1r"
"Also it says If phone reboots, towelroot failed"
Anyways i tried to too root but it says my device aint supported. Is there any other easy method like this? That can root with a click or so
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in_core said:
The towelroot is supposed to say "Make it ra1n" but it says "ra1r"
"Also it says If phone reboots, towelroot failed"
Anyways i tried to too root but it says my device aint supported. Is there any other easy method like this? That can root with a click or so
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Hmmm, try out this link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=48709232
READ THE INSTRUCTIONS VERY CAREFULLY
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TechGirl90 said:
Hmmm, try out this link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=48709232
READ THE INSTRUCTIONS VERY CAREFULLY
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Ok so i managed to root and use autorec to install twrp.
1. Do i need to run the autorec app everytime and proceed with the options to go to recovery? Or how do I get into custom recovery?
2. It installed TWRP 2.7. Now can i install any other roms like PA4.4.3+ and CM11 M9 from this version of TWRP?

in_core said:
Ok so i managed to root and use autorec to install twrp.
1. But after installing twrp Knock-On feature does not work for unlocking the screen. It can only be used for locking.
2. Do i need to run the autorec app everytime and proceed with the options to go to recovery? Or how do I get into custom recovery?
3. It installed TWRP 2.7. Now can i install any other roms like PA4.4.3+ and CM11 M9 from this version of TWRP?
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1. Open Dialer in your Stock LG Rom, and put in this code 3845#*802#, and go to update touch firmware.
2. No you don't need to run the autorec app everytime, go to the playstore and install Rom manager, and there's an option that says "reboot into Recovery Mode', choose that option, and you'll automatically reboot into Recovery Mode.
3. Yes you can now install custom Roms like PA4.4.3+ and CM11 M9, just make sure you backup your Stock LG Rom.

TechGirl90 said:
1. Open Dialer in your Stock LG Rom, and put in this code 3845#*802#, and go to update touch firmware.
2. No you don't need to run the autorec app everytime, go to the playstore and install Rom manager, and there's an option that says "reboot into Recovery Mode', choose that option, and you'll automatically reboot into Recovery Mode.
3. Yes you can now install custom Roms like PA4.4.3+ and CM11 M9, just make sure you backup your Stock LG Rom.
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Already found a thread regarding the Knock On issue and solved so edited it before you replied
Thanks a lot
Have a good day and keep helping us newbies and ones in trouble

in_core said:
Already found a thread regarding the Knock On issue and solved so edited it before you replied
Thanks a lot
Have a good day and keep helping us newbies and ones in trouble
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No Problem[emoji4][emoji4], glad that it worked out for you, you too have a good day.[emoji106][emoji106]
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Thanks for the thread. Found answers I was looking for.

Thanks to this thread, now i know ive learned many new things i was searching for. Thanks to the Op as well as the person who was helping the OP . Kudos and cheers. ^.^ !!
Questions -
1. So, i have kk 4.4.2 on my lg g2 d802, so if i was going to install Cloudyg2 3.3 LP, i need to flash LP baseband first so the LP roms could detect eh?
2. Can i install custom roms using autorec? I mean ,yes i did backup on the internal storage and all (no sd card slots), will it wipe my backup if supoose i have to install roms that requires clean or full wipe?

[STOCK][ODIN][BOB7] Firmware and Bootloader

This is literally just the Odin Flashable bootloader and tar files. These files don't allow direct flashing of lp from nk2 as previously suspected. As there are some new differences between nk2 and lp that don't allow this. This is basically obsolete for general use. Ill leave the files for a few of those that are on roms like cm12 and some nk2 that want to use the modem.
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Downloads:
Modem : here
Bootloader : here

sms gps
Will flashing these fix sms and gps issues on lp roms?

When I took the Ota from NK2 to BOB7. After that I jacked it up and I was able to go back to NK2 via Odin. Is it me or did it used to be once you updated to new version of Android you couldn't go back? Or is it how you update?

Can you get the stock kernel?

MJ523 said:
Will flashing these fix sms and gps issues on lp roms?
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Not likely, this is for OFFICIAL BOB7 roms. (which there is only 1 currrently out and it doesn't have either of those problems to my knowledge)
sml2004 said:
When I took the Ota from NK2 to BOB7. After that I jacked it up and I was able to go back to NK2 via Odin. Is it me or did it used to be once you updated to new version of Android you couldn't go back? Or is it how you update?
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You can go back, some devices don't allow you to downgrade. Its normally a bootloader things to not allow this. But they were nice and allowed it this time. Rom's seem to be able to be flashed (if you have a custom kernel to flash) on the newer bootloaders as well.
Androidwarrior said:
Can you get the stock kernel?
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Search Function. Not going to confuse ODIN flashables and recovery flashables in the same area.

millerboy3 said:
Not likely, this is for OFFICIAL BOB7 roms. (which there is only 1 currrently out and it doesn't have either of those problems to my knowledge)
You can go back, some devices don't allow you to downgrade. Its normally a bootloader things to not allow this. But they were nice and allowed it this time. Rom's seem to be able to be flashed (if you have a custom kernel to flash) on the newer bootloaders as well.
Search Function. Not going to confuse ODIN flashables and recovery flashables in the same area.
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Thanks for your help.

Flashed the bootloader and modem successfully. Cant activate phone on Sprint network so no OTA.
BOB7 shows up in About device.
Flash LP ViSion-X Rom , reboot loop at startup.
Maybe the DL of the rom was corrupt...doubtful. Will try again.
Anyway this is just a note for people in similar situation who want to update to TW LP.
At any rate, thanks so much for the BL and Modem tar files.

oa12 said:
Flashed the bootloader and modem successfully. Cant activate phone on Sprint network so no OTA.
BOB7 shows up in About device.
Flash LP ViSion-X Rom , reboot loop at startup.
Maybe the DL of the rom was corrupt...doubtful. Will try again.
Anyway this is just a note for people in similar situation who want to update to TW LP.
At any rate, thanks so much for the BL and Modem tar files.
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I had this same problem trying to flash a LP rom.

Can I flash just the modem over a CM12 based rom?
I realize that historically modems have nothing to do with the OS but I am already on a CM12 based rom and have TWRP recovery installed.
Thank you!

hermeticist said:
Can I flash just the modem over a CM12 based rom?
I realize that historically modems have nothing to do with the OS but I am already on a CM12 based rom and have TWRP recovery installed.
Thank you!
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I guess you could try. Not sure what it will do for/with CM12 at all. I'm only aware of the effects on TW based LP.

oa12 said:
Flashed the bootloader and modem successfully. Cant activate phone on Sprint network so no OTA.
BOB7 shows up in About device.
Flash LP ViSion-X Rom , reboot loop at startup.
Maybe the DL of the rom was corrupt...doubtful. Will try again.
Anyway this is just a note for people in similar situation who want to update to TW LP.
At any rate, thanks so much for the BL and Modem tar files.
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treo4life said:
I had this same problem trying to flash a LP rom.
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I did the same thing when I first made this. It did work however going from KK custom rom-> LP custom rom with this method. Didn't try a fresh install of LP with it however. I'm doing more testing now. But the files themselves are good, came from the official tar and packaged correctly in the correct order. So Not sure what the problem is. It seems as though the bootloader isn't sticking? I'm getting a bootloop like I'm not on LP when I flash the bootloader/modem from stock nk2 -> stock LP. I'll double check things.

millerboy3 said:
I guess you could try. Not sure what it will do for/with CM12 at all. I'm only aware of the effects on TW based LP.
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Generally newer modems include some network performance upgrades.

millerboy3 said:
I did the same thing when I first made this. It did work however going from KK custom rom-> LP custom rom with this method. Didn't try a fresh install of LP with it however. I'm doing more testing now. But the files themselves are good, came from the official tar and packaged correctly in the correct order. So Not sure what the problem is. It seems as though the bootloader isn't sticking? I'm getting a bootloop like I'm not on LP when I flash the bootloader/modem from stock nk2 -> stock LP. I'll double check things.
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Thanks for the update, im trying it again with another LP rom, keep us updated on what you find.:good:
UPDATE: it failed trying on another LP rom as well..

hermeticist said:
Can I flash just the modem over a CM12 based rom?
I realize that historically modems have nothing to do with the OS but I am already on a CM12 based rom and have TWRP recovery installed.
Thank you!
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yes I did, after the boot loop trouble. I restored cm12 with BOB7 modem and BL and it worked fine.
LP OTA tar for Odin was posted here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4-sprint/general/stock-tar-odin-flashable-t3056478
flashed Odin and worked. Currently updating apps.
edit- sammobile has posted the official stock for 910P! woot! let the games begin.

oa12 said:
yes I did, after the boot loop trouble. I restored cm12 with BOB7 modem and BL and it worked fine.
LP OTA tar for Odin was posted here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4-sprint/general/stock-tar-odin-flashable-t3056478
flashed Odin and worked. Currently updating apps.
edit- sammobile has posted the official stock for 910P! woot! let the games begin.
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The link is the same file as Sammobile. Just faster download.

I just wanted to point this out for people who might not know. This is only the Lollipop BOB7 modem & bootloader and it's purpose is straight forward for those who need it. Thanks for sharing @millerboy3
However, in order to fully and correctly upgrade from any KK rom you will first need to either take the Lollipop ota update OR odin flash the BOB7 stock rom tar. There are several other partitions that must be written/updated. If you've never updated to Lollipop by one of these two methods then you really need to. So in other words you can't simply flash this modem/bootloader tar and expect to be able to flash a custom Lollipop rom without problems.

tx_dbs_tx said:
I just wanted to point this out for people who might not know. This is only the Lollipop BOB7 modem & bootloader and it's purpose is straight forward for those who need it. Thanks for sharing @millerboy3
However, in order to fully and correctly upgrade from any KK rom you will first need to either take the Lollipop ota update OR odin flash the BOB7 stock rom tar. There are several other partitions that must be written/updated. If you've never updated to Lollipop by one of these two methods then you really need to. So in other words you can't simply flash this modem/bootloader tar and expect to be able to flash a custom Lollipop rom without problems.
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Correct after testing and testing we discovered this. Editing the op for the file usages. Thanks @tx_dbs_tx for confirming our suspicions!

tx_dbs_tx said:
I just wanted to point this out for people who might not know. This is only the Lollipop BOB7 modem & bootloader and it's purpose is straight forward for those who need it. Thanks for sharing @millerboy3
However, in order to fully and correctly upgrade from any KK rom you will first need to either take the Lollipop ota update OR odin flash the BOB7 stock rom tar. There are several other partitions that must be written/updated. If you've never updated to Lollipop by one of these two methods then you really need to. So in other words you can't simply flash this modem/bootloader tar and expect to be able to flash a custom Lollipop rom without problems.
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I'm a little confused by this.
I've been on a CM12 based lollipop rom for a couple months now.
I flashed the modem and have already noticed improved handover.
Are you saying that I should flash the bootloader as well?
(ie back up my system, flash bootloader, then restore recovery and system).

Mods please close this thread.

Thread closed at OP request
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Have a great day!

New Root Method For 5.1.1 w/o custom kernel

A new superSu was released. It will give you systemless root on Samsung TW 5.1.1 and does not require a cutom kernel.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=64161125&postcount=3
It also looks like CF Auto root for DOK2 firmware has been updated as well using the newest SUPERSU.
https://autoroot.chainfire.eu/

Nice! For some reason, Link isn't working for me.

Bruce lee roy said:
Nice! For some reason, Link isn't working for me.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=64161125&postcount=3

ShrekOpher said:
A new superSu was released. It will give you systemless root on Samsung TW 5.1.1 and does not require a cutom kernel.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=64161125&postcount=3
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Did you tried it?

Avide said:
Did you tried it?
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Yeah I'm on stock DOK2 firmware, and I have root using the stock kernel.
However V4A will not work right now, it is not compatible with systemless root. Besides that everything is working great.

ShrekOpher said:
Yeah I'm on stock DOK2 firmware, and I have root using the stock kernel.
However V4A will not work right now, it is not compatible with systemless root. Besides that everything is working great.
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Why do you prefer stock over custom?

Bruce lee roy said:
Why do you prefer stock over custom?
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I did this so I can use Android Pay, not because of kernels, but in general a stock kernel is going to be more stable and cause less issues.

ShrekOpher said:
Yeah I'm on stock DOK2 firmware, and I have root using the stock kernel.
However V4A will not work right now, it is not compatible with systemless root. Besides that everything is working great.
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Could you post some steps on how to use this new systemless root on the Note4?

chodaboy19 said:
Could you post some steps on how to use this new systemless root on the Note4?
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If your on the stock firmware you just flash the new SuperSu.Zip in TWRP, it's available in the thread linked in the OP. And you will have root, no need to flash a custom kernel.

I tested this system less root out earlier and it doesn't seem like it's 100% stable. I was on stock dok2 freshly Odin and then flash this system less root. Titanium back up doesn't Uninstall system apps (debloat), after you restart your phone the apps remains intact. Anyone else?

I just tried this out. I was rooted on 4.4.4 NK4. So far everything seems to be working fine. I froze and defrosted some apps using Titanium backup without any problems. I will keep an eye on things as I use 5.1.1, but from a casual glance, it looks like a nice update.
Steps to install from 4.4.4:
1. Install the DOK2 image using ODIN
2. Install TWRP using ODIN
3. Install the SuperSU Beta zip using TWRP

aznvi3tric3guy said:
I tested this system less root out earlier and it doesn't seem like it's 100% stable. I was on stock dok2 freshly Odin and then flash this system less root. Titanium back up doesn't Uninstall system apps (debloat), after you restart your phone the apps remains intact. Anyone else?
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If you read the forum that the zip is provided, you'd see it's not 100% yet. Still on beta phase but making it available because it's 'mostly' working.
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When booting are you getting the message: "Kernel is not SEAndroid Enforcing"?
Not sure, where I messed up...

aznvi3tric3guy said:
I tested this system less root out earlier and it doesn't seem like it's 100% stable. I was on stock dok2 freshly Odin and then flash this system less root. Titanium back up doesn't Uninstall system apps (debloat), after you restart your phone the apps remains intact. Anyone else?
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Yeah, this is a systemless root. This means there are certain root apps that will not work correctly. Mainly things that modify the system. However, you can flash a debloater script in TWRP and remove the applications you want.
Right now removing system apps in Titanium Backup does NOT work, but freezing them all does. Also Viper4Android can't install the drivers. Both of these issues are related to the new Root Method.
However if there was a flashable zip to install the drivers for V4A I think the app itself would still work fine.
Remember this is a beta version of SuperSu and most of the developers have not adjusted the root apps to work with the new systemless root method.

chodaboy19 said:
When booting are you getting the message: "Kernel is not SEAndroid Enforcing"?
Not sure, where I messed up...
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Yeah I get that as well, but if you go look at the About Phone screen once you are booted up you will see that you are still SE Android Enforcing. something with how this is gaining root access is making the boot sequence think you have modified the kernel, even though you have not.

So you guys are able to freeze system apps in TiBu, yes? I ask because this sounds an awful lot like how I was able to root my new Tab S2 a few weeks ago. If I'm onto anything here, then I would just make sure that everything related to Knox is frozen; all have Knox in the name except Security Log Agent but make sure that's frozen too. After getting that straightened out and learning which apps didn't currently cooperate, the tablet runs like a dream :angel:
There are still a few limitations and a handful of apps that don't seem to enjoy the situation, but I simply refuse not to administer my own device (I got the 817T, 9.7" Tmo variant). There are no custom/permissive kernels yet for that model yet as we're still waiting for the code to be released... , honestly makes me wish there was a GPL for individuals and another for "corporate entities" who've made billions off of generously GPLed work that had some (sharp) teeth and a taste of enforcement
Anyway, making sure that Knox is entirely frozen solid will hopefully help out anyone having issues. I'd also advise not going overboard with Xposed modules and making frequent Nandroids in case you get stuck in a bootloop or similar (happened to me after flashing the fix for FolderMount... just restored a Nandroid but I really miss FolderMount :crying
Hopefully that's of some help and I'm not just babbling about my sweet new tablet here... well, ya know, I suppose it can be two things

Can I install twrp without root ????
This will work for samsung 12.2 tab pro right???

ShrekOpher said:
I did this so I can use Android Pay, not because of kernels, but in general a stock kernel is going to be more stable and cause less issues.
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Depends on the kernel...
As of right now BeastMost only has the root restriction removed, other then that its stock. (It still DOG1 as Sammy hasn't released the DOK2 source yet)
The reason freeza called his kernel BeastMode stock is because the only thing changed are tweaks no real mods.
For example some logging is turned off etc.
The things that are changed do not affect stability like a heavily modded kernel that needs a tweaker app etc.
(so long as the kernel that is compiled is for that carrier and that variant device)

Skrillexsgames said:
Can I install twrp without root ????
This will work for samsung 12.2 tab pro right???
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yes you can, use odin

aznvi3tric3guy said:
I tested this system less root out earlier and it doesn't seem like it's 100% stable. I was on stock dok2 freshly Odin and then flash this system less root. Titanium back up doesn't Uninstall system apps (debloat), after you restart your phone the apps remains intact. Anyone else?
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Try installing busy box from the Playstore.