From the Moderators --- We are working on creating a section dedicated for the NOTE LTE Version please be patient we hear you........
The "Samsung Galaxy Note",
that some call "Galaxy Note International",
is the "Samsung Galaxy Note GT-N7000".
Samsung SGH-i717 Galaxy Note LTE (At&t) is *NOT* a version of the Galaxy Note N7000.
The Galaxy Note LTE i717 is the US version of the "Galaxy Note LTE SHV-E160(S)"
The Galaxy Note LTE i717 is a *different product* with:
- different hardware,
- different speed,
- different CPU,
- different GPU,
- different kernel,
- different benchmark results,
- different weight (182 gramms)
- with LTE 700
To make this even more clear:
Samsung firmware for the N7000 will NOT work on the i717
Cyanogenmod for N7000 will NOT work on i717
EVERYTHING that is made to work specifically on the N7000 will NOT work on the i717
It is like the Galaxy SII i9100 (Exynos) and the Galaxy SII Skyrocket i727 (Snapdragon S3). Also they are not the same device.
The Galaxy Note LTE i717 and the Galaxy SII Skyrocket i727 are in the same family (both with a Snapdragon S3).
Galaxy Note N7000 (Exynos - 800x1280 - 1.024.000 pixels):
GLBenchmark 2.1 Egypt High : 2827 Frames (25.0 Fps)
GLBenchmark 2.1 Egypt Standard : 3012 Frames (26.7 Fps)
Galaxy Note LTE (Snapdragon S3 - 800x1280 - 1.024.000 pixels):
GLBenchmark 2.1 Egypt High : 1014 Frames (9.0 Fps)
GLBenchmark 2.1 Egypt Standard : 2425 Frames (21.5 Fps)
Galaxy S II I9100 (Exynos - 480x800 - 384.000 pixels):
GLBenchmark 2.1 Egypt High : 5727 Frames (50.7 Fps)
GLBenchmark 2.1 Egypt Standard : 6283 Frames (55.6 Fps)
GLBenchmark 2.1 Pro High : 2908 Frames (58.2 Fps)
Galaxy S II LTE (Snapdragon S3 - 480x800 - 384.000 pixels)):
GLBenchmark 2.1 Egypt High : 2292 Frames (20.3 Fps)
GLBenchmark 2.1 Egypt Standard : 4375 Frames (38.7 Fps)
GLBenchmark 2.1 Pro High : 2067 Frames (41.3 Fps)
Here a clear comparison:
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=pdacomparer&id1=3100&id2=3288&id3=3212&id4=3290
Here a benchmark comparison:
http://www.glbenchmark.com/compare....1=Samsung GT-N7000 Galaxy&D2=Samsung SGH-I717
Im guessing you are demanding for new forum on LTE version??
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naimmkassim said:
Im guessing you are demanding for new forum on LTE version??
Sent from my GT-N7000 using XDA App
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I'm pretty sure he is trying to quell the coming onslaught of questions regarding the ATT GNote, soon to be released in the United States from occuring in this section or in the International GNote section.
I can almost guarantee that some non readers will go ahead and ask a dozen questions as to compatibility of roms/kernels/mods/themes/everything.
Having this thread (Which SHOULD get a sticky) allows us as fellow members to flame/troll/ignore/laugh at anyone who ask questions or screws up their phone by flashing something on an incorrect device
Thanks for the heads up. As soon as At&t release the phone i'll be jumping all over this thread.
legion1911 said:
The "Samsung Galaxy Note",
that some call "Galaxy Note International",
is the "Samsung Galaxy Note GT-N7000ZBA".
All our official Samsung roms have "GT-N7000ZBA" at the beginning of their name.
Samsung SGH-i717 Galaxy Note LTE (At&t) is *NOT* a version of the Galaxy Note N7000.
The Galaxy Note LTE i717 is the US version of the "Galaxy Note LTE SHV-E160(S)"
The Galaxy Note LTE i717 is a *different product* with:
- different hardware,
- different speed,
- different CPU,
- different GPU,
- different kernel,
- different benchmark results,
- different weight (182 gramms)
- with LTE 700
The Galaxy Note LTE i717 will probably get its own XDA forum (it is a different Smartphone).
To make this even more clear:
Samsung firmware for the N7000ZBA will NOT work on the i717
Cyanogenmod for N7000ZBA will NOT work on i717
EVERYTHING that is made to work specifically on the N7000ZBA will NOT work on the i717
It is like the i9100 and the i727 Skyrocket. Also they are not the same device.
The Galaxy Note LTE i717 and the i727 Skyrocket are in the same family (notice the similar name?).
Here a clear comparison:
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=pdacomparer&id1=3100&id2=3288&id3=3212&id4=3290
Here a benchmark comparison:
http://www.glbenchmark.com/compare....1=Samsung GT-N7000 Galaxy&D2=Samsung SGH-I717 http://www.glbenchmark.com/compare....=Samsung GT-N7000 Galaxy&D2=Samsung SHV-E160S
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Now I'm really wondering what version I should get. I'm worried about the warranty, or lack of, for the international version, but I'm also worried about the major differences between the International version and the AT&T version, as well as what LTE will do to battery life...
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Although, looking at how much International prices have skyrocketed, I'm not so sure about that version....
stefan.buddle said:
Having this thread (Which SHOULD get a sticky) allows us as fellow members to flame/troll/ignore/laugh at anyone who ask questions or screws up their phone by flashing something on an incorrect device
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A sticky isn't license to be a jerk.
Even with the warnings, I bet it isn't 24 hours after the at&t version is
released, that there will be threads about "I just installed xxx rom from THIS
forum on my new at&t note and all it does is stick at the boot screen".
Betcha 5 bucks
p51d007 said:
Even with the warnings, I bet it isn't 24 hours after the at&t version is
released, that there will be threads about "I just installed xxx rom from THIS
forum on my new at&t note and all it does is stick at the boot screen".
Betcha 5 bucks
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Good news is, Odin won't let you install Exynos or Tegra ROMs on a Snapdragon device.
We shouldn't have to worry about that sort of thing until a working insecure recovery (CWM) is made for the 717.
wish 4 cores!!
legion1911 said:
The Galaxy Note LTE i717 is a *different product* with:
- different hardware,
- different speed,
- different CPU,
- different GPU,
- different kernel,
- different benchmark results,
- different weight (182 gramms)
- with LTE 700
The Galaxy Note LTE i717 will probably get its own XDA forum (it is a different Smartphone).
To make this even more clear:
Samsung firmware for the N7000ZBA will NOT work on the i717
Cyanogenmod for N7000ZBA will NOT work on i717
EVERYTHING that is made to work specifically on the N7000ZBA will NOT work on the i717
It is like the i9100 and the i727 Skyrocket. Also they are not the same device.
The Galaxy Note LTE i717 and the i727 Skyrocket are in the same family (notice the similar name?).
Here a clear comparison:
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=pdacomparer&id1=3100&id2=3288&id3=3212&id4=3290
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You're telling us its different, when the site you linked the comparison tells us that they both use qualcomm. Only thing I noticed while skimming is the LTE bands are different
Edit: didn't see the 4th device lol
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Ty op for heads up, the notes verisions are showing different rom capacitys', how does rom capacity effect performance for updates/multi tasking?
stefan.buddle said:
I'm pretty sure he is trying to quell the coming onslaught of questions regarding the ATT GNote, soon to be released in the United States from occuring in this section or in the International GNote section.
I can almost guarantee that some non readers will go ahead and ask a dozen questions as to compatibility of roms/kernels/mods/themes/everything.
Having this thread (Which SHOULD get a sticky) allows us as fellow members to flame/troll/ignore/laugh at anyone who ask questions or screws up their phone by flashing something on an incorrect device
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There are nicer ways to draw attention to the thread (and request a sticky) than suggesting anyone flame/troll/ignore/laugh at others. I am bringing this thread to the attention of my co-mod. Since I will be getting the AT&T version, I will end up taking care of these new user issues - do not make my job harder
it was a joke about trolling people who dont follow directions and mess up their phone
I am in the camp of buying the i7171 or N7000. I have to wait until march 2013 to buy the i717 at subsidy price or fork over the full amount when it comes out. For that amount, i might as well buy the N7000. The att version of the touch pro was the last phone that i forked over the full amount and that was money better spent on a stripper. In my opionion, att version was a big bust. I was also in the top 5% for two straight months and got throttled. In my area, "3G" is slow as heck and i was surprised to learn it can get alot slower than that. To buy the att i717 or to hell with att and get the N7000? That is the question on my mind.
My opinion is that every post regarding Galaxy Note LTE i717 is OFF-TOPIC on this forum.
It helps nobody to encourage confusion between two different hardware devices.
legion1911 said:
My opinion is that every post regarding Galaxy Note LTE i717 is OFF-TOPIC on this forum.
It helps nobody to encourage confusion between two different hardware devices.
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No it is not...not right now.
drpal181 said:
I am in the camp of buying the i7171 or N7000. I have to wait until march 2013 to buy the i717 at subsidy price or fork over the full amount when it comes out. For that amount, i might as well buy the N7000. The att version of the touch pro was the last phone that i forked over the full amount and that was money better spent on a stripper. In my opionion, att version was a big bust. I was also in the top 5% for two straight months and got throttled. In my area, "3G" is slow as heck and i was surprised to learn it can get alot slower than that. To buy the att i717 or to hell with att and get the N7000? That is the question on my mind.
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In the same boat and I have a couple upgrades to burn......But The International versions are developer supported to a much greater extent and we won;t have LTE here until 2013 and I like being on the dumbphone plans with two phones and saving $240 a year and getting UL data on both our phones meaning not having to count it (becasue we don;t use more than 1GB a month anyway....
. We have a couple International warranty less (used) i9100s and I always bought Nokias unlocked new before they faded and never had a warranty issue. Its a risk worth taking. I take two risks...I buy used and no warranty. So far so good.
I may use my upgrades to buy and sell a couple iPhone 5s when they come out. The 3GS did very well as a resale.
The SGS II still smokes both devices......on paper.
legion1911 said:
My opinion is that every post regarding Galaxy Note LTE i717 is OFF-TOPIC on this forum.
It helps nobody to encourage confusion between two different hardware devices.
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Then don't encourage it. Its as simple as redirecting people to this thread if they have any questions. And last I checked, it said GALAXY NOTE GENERAL. Not Europe Note, not AT&T Note, etc.
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legion1911 said:
My opinion is that every post regarding Galaxy Note LTE i717 is OFF-TOPIC on this forum.
It helps nobody to encourage confusion between two different hardware devices.
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Please leave moderation to the moderators.
Corriewf said:
No it is not...not right now.
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Exactly right.
Sinful Animosity said:
Then don't encourage it. Its as simple as redirecting people to this thread if they have any questions. And last I checked, it said GALAXY NOTE GENERAL. Not Europe Note, not AT&T Note, etc.
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We are working on getting a separate development forum for the AT&T version. the rest of the discussions will continue as they have.
reinbeau said:
Please leave moderation to the moderators.
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To express an opinion on what I consider off-topic is not moderation.
My opinion:
Want the Note N7000? Buy the Note N7000.
Buy the I717? You get the Note LTE, with the Note LTE hardware, Note LTE software, Note LTE I717 buttons and a Note LTE XDA forum.
The I717 Note LTE may continue to be confused with the N7000 Note here (to not make I717 owners feel lonely and segregated).
So when someone writes here, we will always have to ask:
Are you writing about the N7000 or I717?
Is this opinion about the N7000 or I717?
Is this bug about the N7000 or I717?
And that benchmark, is for N7000 or I717?
Nice protective cover, is it for N7000 or I717?
This does not work on mine. Is it for N7000 or I717?
I 've seen the non-LTE international Note 3 referred to as N900 and also as N9000. What is the difference?
jeffs99 said:
I 've seen the non-LTE international Note 3 referred to as N900 and also as N9000. What is the difference?
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N900 exists, n9000 does not.
muhtesem insan said:
N900 exists, n9000 does not.
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Samsung's previous naming convention would dictate otherwise.
Every base model with Exynos would have all zeros with the others having a 2 or 5 that replaces one of the zeros. This is the same with all other high end devices from Samsung
Samsung Galaxy Note 3 N9000 with 3G connectivity
Samsung Galaxy Note 3 N9002 with dual SIM card support
Samsung Galaxy Note 3 N9005 with 3G & LTE connectivity.
muhtesem insan said:
N900 exists, n9000 does not.
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If that's the case then all the results from when you Goggle Samsung N9000 are incorrect?
https://www.google.com/#q=Samsung+N9000
I believe N9000 is correct. N900 is/was probably a typo.
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erasable said:
I believe N9000 is correct. N900 is/was probably a typo.
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N900 is correct. I use one. On box, Samsung write N900. In software: N900. In Document: N900. N9000 is incorrect :victory:
Thats is n9000 and sn900
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muhtesem insan said:
N900 exists, n9000 does not.
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Which one is better?
muhtesem insan said:
N900 exists, n9000 does not.
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ok then the phone i bought yesterday is not exists.
Response from samsung.com
jeffs99 said:
I 've seen the non-LTE international Note 3 referred to as N900 and also as N9000. What is the difference?
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Thank you for contacting Samsung Telecommunications America.
After reading your e-mail we understand that you want to know the difference between SM-N900 and N9000.
We understand your concern.
We would like to inform you that Samsung Galaxy Note 3 available through different US carriers are SM-N900A(AT&T), SM-N900T(T-mobile), SM-N900P(Sprint), SM-N900V(Verizon), SM-N900R4(US cellular). We would like to inform you that the above mentioned Samsung Galaxy Note 3 devices are US models and are locked to respective carrier network. The devices are released with the pre-installed applications of respective carriers. Please access the web link below to see the list of Samsung US note 3 devices.
samsung.com/us/topic/the-next-big-thing-is-here
We would like to inform you that the other models SM-n900, GT-n9005 are non us models and we do not have information regarding the models. We would like to inform you that as country varies settings and features of the models varies. Also non-US devices are unlocked(International) devices. Please contact the appropriate support team of non-US device by accessing the web links given below to know more about the devices.
Please access the web link below to know more about GT-N9005
samsung.com/uk/consumer/mobile-devices/galaxy-note/smartphones/SM-N9005ZWEBTU
Please access the web link below to know more about SM-N900
samsung.com/in/consumer/mobile-phone/mobile-phone/galaxy-note/SM-N9000ZKEINU
Do you have more questions regarding your Samsung Mobile Phone? For 24 hour information and assistance, we offer our new FAQ/ARS System - Automated Response System at samsung.com/support. It's like having your very own personal Samsung Technician at your fingertips.
Thank you for your continued interest in Samsung products.
Sincerely,
Valarie
Technical Support
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jeffs99 said:
I 've seen the non-LTE international Note 3 referred to as N900 and also as N9000. What is the difference?
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We would like to inform you that, Samsung Note3(N9000) is an International version. We request you contact the place of purchase
thanks full
Bubbles1956 said:
Thank you for contacting Samsung Telecommunications America.
After reading your e-mail we understand that you want to know the difference between SM-N900 and N9000.
We understand your concern.
We would like to inform you that Samsung Galaxy Note 3 available through different US carriers are SM-N900A(AT&T), SM-N900T(T-mobile), SM-N900P(Sprint), SM-N900V(Verizon), SM-N900R4(US cellular). We would like to inform you that the above mentioned Samsung Galaxy Note 3 devices are US models and are locked to respective carrier network. The devices are released with the pre-installed applications of respective carriers. Please access the web link below to see the list of Samsung US note 3 devices.
samsung.com/us/topic/the-next-big-thing-is-here
We would like to inform you that the other models SM-n900, GT-n9005 are non us models and we do not have information regarding the models. We would like to inform you that as country varies settings and features of the models varies. Also non-US devices are unlocked(International) devices. Please contact the appropriate support team of non-US device by accessing the web links given below to know more about the devices.
Please access the web link below to know more about GT-N9005
samsung.com/uk/consumer/mobile-devices/galaxy-note/smartphones/SM-N9005ZWEBTU
Please access the web link below to know more about SM-N900
samsung.com/in/consumer/mobile-phone/mobile-phone/galaxy-note/SM-N9000ZKEINU
Do you have more questions regarding your Samsung Mobile Phone? For 24 hour information and assistance, we offer our new FAQ/ARS System - Automated Response System at samsung.com/support. It's like having your very own personal Samsung Technician at your fingertips.
Thank you for your continued interest in Samsung products.
Sincerely,
Valarie
Technical Support
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Thanks so much for the information, it was successful to me. .
Hello all,
Does the Note 3 have DC-HSDPA?
According to the 3 mobile uk website it does: http://www.three.co.uk/Discover/Devices/Samsung/Galaxy_Note_3/Black?intid=3mainhpc1220483535173&tab=Specifications.&memory=32&colour=Black
However I can see no reference to DC-HSDPA on the Note 3 anywhere else?!
Can anyone confirm if any version of the Note 3 has DC-HSDPA?
Thanks,
Ben
beninfluence said:
Hello all,
Does the Note 3 have DC-HSDPA?
According to the 3 mobile uk website it does: http://www.three.co.uk/Discover/Devices/Samsung/Galaxy_Note_3/Black?intid=3mainhpc1220483535173&tab=Specifications.&memory=32&colour=Black
However I can see no reference to DC-HSDPA on the Note 3 anywhere else?!
Can anyone confirm if any version of the Note 3 has DC-HSDPA?
Thanks,
Ben
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yep i get h+ if not got 4g
Well a lot of mistakes has been made. So here is little help for those who don't know what Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 they have or what differencies is between each version.
First: Versions of Samsung Galaxy 10.1 Note has this subversions:
GT-N8000 (3G & Wifi)
GT-N8005 (GT-N8000 TR-Model, no voice-calls)
GT-N8010, GT-N8013 (Wifi)
GT-N8020 (LTE, 3G & Wifi)
And don't forget that Samsung Galaxy Note has a lot of version too. It's with HW specs so will it help with development or just for comparison.
Don't forget the SCH-i925 -- 2012 verizon galaxy note 10.1 LTE
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ddickenson said:
Don't forget the SCH-i925 -- 2012 verizon galaxy note 10.1 LTE
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True as a spec. Thanks!
SCH-I925EAAUSC = U.S. Cellular 4G LTE
SCH-I925EAAVZW = Verizon 4G LTE
:good:
oh someone already mentioned the US Cell version...
Hello guys
Im thinking to get one of those phones: Samsung Galaxy Note3 or Samsung Galaxy Note 3 duos (SM-N9002).
I like SM-N9002 because it has dual sim.
Please help me to decide which one to get?
Thanks
ThumperTM said:
Hello guys
Im thinking to get one of those phones: Samsung Galaxy Note3 or Samsung Galaxy Note 3 duos (SM-N9002).
I like SM-N9002 because it has dual sim.
Please help me to decide which one to get?
Thanks
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No doubt n9005...its up to you
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ghalib87 said:
No doubt n9005...its up to you
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Both phones seems to have same hardware? 3gb ram, same processor etc
Thanks for your reply.
my two cents...
ThumperTM said:
Hello guys
Im thinking to get one of those phones: Samsung Galaxy Note3 or Samsung Galaxy Note 3 duos (SM-N9002).
I like SM-N9002 because it has dual sim.
Please help me to decide which one to get?
Thanks
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if you are choosing between the N9005 and the N9002,
in terms of hardware, they are practically the same except the dual sim version (N9002) supports only 3G up to HSPA+
while the single sim (N9005) will support LTE.
another thing of note is that the N9002 is a China exclusive model; it will still work for most carriers worldwide but the main catch is that it does not come with Google play store and google apps pre-installed. This can easily be rectified though by rooting and installing a custom ROM.
other than that, the N9002 is currently the king of dual sim phones worldwide; with premium flagship specifications.
so the choice would depend on your priority for LTE vs Dual sim.
racoonowner said:
if you are choosing between the N9005 and the N9002,
in terms of hardware, they are practically the same except the dual sim version (N9002) supports only 3G up to HSPA+
while the single sim (N9005) will support LTE.
another thing of note is that the N9002 is a China exclusive model; it will still work for most carriers worldwide but the main catch is that it does not come with Google play store and google apps pre-installed. This can easily be rectified though by rooting and installing a custom ROM.
other than that, the N9002 is currently the king of dual sim phones worldwide; with premium flagship specifications.
so the choice would depend on your priority for LTE vs Dual sim.
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Thanks very much!!!
you might regret choosing 9002 if you are a update maniac