My take on fire tv - Fire TV General

Ok so just picked up the fire tv.need to set it up for brother .so playing with it while I can the cons is the remote should of been keyboard with mini remote voice search doesn't work with netflix or YouTube.they should of included power on and off button.hopefully the fire tv 2 includes improvements.like the other member on here said,the launcher is cluttered.amazon should include in the next fw that u can remove or add the sections on the left panel.box looks like it's faster than boxee box.weird thing is boxee looks better in the netflix picture department.overall I'm happy I got one for bro considering it was $59.hes probably going to play games,netflix and some tvmc.
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Tab 10.1 and Samsung D7000 and D8000 TVs

If you guys havent heard you can link your GSII or Tab 10.1 to your D7000 or D8000 tv but I havent been able to find the app to do so. I believe its called Samsung Wireless Link. This allows you to mirror your TV on to your tablet. Anyone got this working or have more information about it?
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Just been looking at those 2 tvs as do not know which one to get yet but from reading there are 2 apps in the market by samsung but alas cannot remember the names my head is puddled with reading about the 2 tvs
Samsung tv remote app works with my c8000 and the other is Samsung tv notify.what app are you guys taking about?will work with the c8000?
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This is the other app i have seen
Samsung Smart View
Apparently it is the same as the Samsung Touch Remote Control..
Did anyone who has a D800 Tv get the new touch remote with the tv or was it just a bog standard remote
lufc said:
Just been looking at those 2 tvs as do not know which one to get yet but from reading there are 2 apps in the market by samsung but alas cannot remember the names my head is puddled with reading about the 2 tvs
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I orginally bought the 55" D7000 on Amazon and it was defective. I returned it and bought the 46" D8000. I talked to a TV tech about the models and he claims the D8000 has significantly better black levels and was raving about the micro dimming plus blah blah... he also went on to say that on TV's smaller then 55" you wont notice much of a difference between the 7 and the 8 series. Since I was saving a bunch of money on the smaller size TV I went for the D8000. One thing I noticed is the D8000 does come with glasses which I didnt really need since I got the 3D Starter Kit bundle and Bluray Player for free through the Amazon promotion. I like the glasses that came with the D8000 better though and while I initially liked the bezel on the 7000 better I now really like the 8000 bezel. It's a very sweet TV I have it plugged into my router and I can stream 1080p mkv and mkv3d files no problem with no additional software/hardware needed. You just need some DLNA server software and your good to go. I can also stream 3D content from my Evo 3D to the TV via DLNA over wifi. Pretty cool. I'm hoping this new update for the Tab 10.1 with TouchWiz adds this mirroring capability that they talk about here: http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/samsung-d8000-d7000-streaming-galaxy-201102221034.htm
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This is the other app i have seen
Samsung Smart View
Apparently it is the same as the Samsung Touch Remote Control..
Did anyone who has a D800 Tv get the new touch remote with the tv or was it just a bog standard remote
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They pulled the touch remote for the USA release. From what I hear its crap anyways although you can buy it separately if youd like. I LOVE the remote that it did come with however (both the 7 and the 8 came with the same remote)... I think you are on the other side of the pond though so it may come with the UE models, mines a UN. I read something about only the D8000 coming with the touch remote and only on the UE models. Could be BS though. The remote mine came with is a qwerty keyboard on one side, remote control on the other side. It's backlight which is great, I've never had a backlight remote before haha. I'm easily impressed I guess...

worth the buy?

so its time for me to upgrade, i owned a g box and it was cool at the time year or 2 later it starts to give me problems its slow most things dont work ect so iv been using my pc to watch movies via xbmc, now i want to stop and look for a new xbmc media player and seen the nexus player and looks promising, and been looking around a bit about xbmc for it, is this recommended buy? id like a box that is fast able to use xbmc and more less problems lol
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so its time for me to upgrade, i owned a g box and it was cool at the time year or 2 later it starts to give me problems its slow most things dont work ect so iv been using my pc to watch movies via xbmc, now i want to stop and look for a new xbmc media player and seen the nexus player and looks promising, and been looking around a bit about xbmc for it, is this recommended buy? id like a box that is fast able to use xbmc and more less problems lol
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At this time I would wait just a few weeks as both Razer Forge and Nvidia are releasing new boxes which have better specs.The Nvidia is a little more pricey at $199 the forge will be $99 according to the options you choose. Both will be better boxes if I had to choose. Roku is also due with the Roku 4 anytime now. There will be allot of choices by June.
Im currently using my nexus player solely for xbmc, ive unlocked and rooted it. And ive installed xbmc launcher. Actually im technically using the alpha nightly of kodi. Its amazing. Ive installed genesis, and aeon nox skin. I use the nexus player remote to control kodi. Unles you plan on using the nexus player for kodi, it's useless. But running kodi its damn near perfect.
i love my nexus player. it is not great for everyone though.
first of all you need a mouse and keyboard. and a gamepad.
second and most important you must have a thirst for tinkering to appreciate what you have.
if you just want to consume media stick with chromecast or a cheaper roku.
Kodi runs great on the Nexus Player...the only 2 things for me is the frame rate is locked to 60fps and the inability to play VC-1 (it plays but its pretty unwatchable as I believe it uses software instead of hardware).
What about if you want to play emulators?
if a tablet will run it you can most likely get it to run on the nexus player with some hackery.(lollirock rom will run most tablet apps without much fighting).
my bluetooth controllers work great with the emulators ive tried.
I still think for gamers there are better options coming up. I have the adt1 its a great box guess I am just waiting for the Android Tv box with strong specs. Nvidia Shield?
Don't buy it, I've had mine since 1/22/2015 and I have been having issues with it.
Netflix crashes when I try to choose a show/movie.
Slow at times, including having to fully reset it due to extreme slowdowns.
Remote feels very fragile, buttons feel bad.
Unresponsive when using the remote sometimes.
Voice search is terrible, it's laggy and unreliable. Not to mention it doesn't work with many of the apps.
Wifi connection only, unless you get Micro USB to Ethernet adapter.
No normal sized USB connector, meaning you absolutely need a Micro to Normal USB adapter.
Rooted apps require a mouse and keyboard, the remote most of the time does not work on them. (and remember to hook up a mouse and keyboard you need micro to normal usb adapter)
I feel bad for this Asus/Google product, and wish I could take back my purchase of this item.
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Most of these issues weren't noticeable when I first got it, but after a while all these things become a big issue.
Here is my take on the Nexus Player:
I've rooted, and installed Droidmote. This allows for controlling sideloaded apps. I have entered custom DNS values to allow for region restricted apps. I transfer apps using the SendAnywhere app. There is much more flexibility with this box than with ones that are locked down. It is more what it can do, than what it does out of the box. There are weaknesses with all streaming media players, but this does everything I need in one box. I haven't had any problems with the Netflix app. For those that like to tinker with android, the Nexus Player is ideal. For those that want an out of the box solution, time will tell.
I regret buying the Nexus Player. It freezes,Bluetooth controller/remote disconnect all the time,lack of apps even with side loading, various app crashes (Netflix mostly),voice search sucks and it just feels like a beta product at best.
DayDaysTech said:
so its time for me to upgrade, i owned a g box and it was cool at the time year or 2 later it starts to give me problems its slow most things dont work ect so iv been using my pc to watch movies via xbmc, now i want to stop and look for a new xbmc media player and seen the nexus player and looks promising, and been looking around a bit about xbmc for it, is this recommended buy? id like a box that is fast able to use xbmc and more less problems lol
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I think the Android TV platform is great. But the nexus player doesn't seems as good as what is coming soon hardware wise. I'd wait for the Razer forge tv or nvidia shield console.
cheeto said:
I think the Android TV platform is great. But the nexus player doesn't seems as good as what is coming soon hardware wise. I'd wait for the Razer forge tv or nvidia shield console.
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Yeah the nvidia looks pretty sweet.
I love it!!
I have had many devices including ATV1,2,3 and the WD TV. The Applee 3 is still used for mirroring from Idevices. The WD was second device as it had and external HDD port but it was constantly rebooting. With my Nexus player I enabled devleoper mode and enabled the USB support. I bought an USB to go cable and installed file explorer. Now it's my favourite device. It can do HDD movies, netflix and Kodi.
Well worth it in my mind. Also had custom roms available if you don't like android TV and want to go to lollipop.
If you can find an Android ADT-1 (the developer's Android TV box), then you'd be better off with that. Much better specs - I've been using mine for nearly 2 months now and since the 5.0.1 update about 7 weeks ago it's been running flawlessly.
Lokke9191 said:
Im currently using my nexus player solely for xbmc, ive unlocked and rooted it. And ive installed xbmc launcher. Actually im technically using the alpha nightly of kodi. Its amazing. Ive installed genesis, and aeon nox skin. I use the nexus player remote to control kodi. Unles you plan on using the nexus player for kodi, it's useless. But running kodi its damn near perfect.
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Hi there,
Were you able to get Navi-X up and running?
This is my main reason for wanting to buy the nexus player. This way, I'd not need to hook my laptop up to the TV and could just access Navi-X from the Nexus Player.
Please advise if you (or anyone else) has been able to get Navi-X running on the nexus player.
Thanks!!
I think the biggest plus for the nexus player would be regular android updates directly from google for a long time.

[Q] General Question - Opinions Wanted

I currently have the FireTV (have a few days left before 30 day window is up) and just purchased the Nexus Player to see how it compares. I much prefer the Nexus Player UI and love android, but trying to see if all the extra work is worth having the Nexus Player. I haven't had a chance to mess around with it too much, but did notice a severely limited number of apps available through play store. I knew this was going to be an issue - but still surprised me. First I will outline what type of user I am and then I am curious your thoughts on Fire vs NP
User:
Pretty basic user. I will use my box for Kodi and then a few apps such as HBO, Showtime, Netflix, Amazon, Hulu, Youtube, etc. I do like the idea of this being android and another option for casting from my phone. I am a entrenched with the google suite of products so I see this as a plus as well. I am able to do some basic operations such as sideloading and such, but typically have to follow a step-by-step process. I loaded Kodi.TV just fine on my FireTV.
I am looking for a somewhat simple solution, but am willing do a small amount of work if the UX/UI is definitely better. I guess I am starting to wonder if a NP is going to be a constant fight and worth it to considering I won't be gaming, or other things that may be great on the NP.
What is everyone's thoughts? Feel free to ask me questions as well and thank you in advance for your help.
I own and use both(different rooms) and the firetv does amazon instant where the nexus player doesn't(kodi addon is hit or miss). I have also had less issues with kodi on the firetv. I had to disable sleep to get kodi to work right on the nexus. I have not seen an hbogo app on the nexus player where the firetv has that. The plus side to the player is it is easy to do what u want on it.
With as much as I like the firetv once my prime is up I'm getting rid of it for another nexus player as amazon has **** customer service when it comes to the firetv devices. I had a tv stick I used that died and after fighting with their cs for a few hours I hung up and went and bought the nexus. Also the fire devices are Android they are just not stock. Sideloading on both devices is the same process(adb or a file explorer).
With HBO and Amazon Prime aren't I able to sideload those apps on the the Nexus Player? If so how do most popular side loaded apps perform?
u can use the normal amazon prime app but u need a mouse to nav it, same with the habogo. there was an androidtv amazon app from a sony tv but amazon blocked it from working on anything but the sony tv. if the app doesnt work well with the remote(most dont) u need a mouse

Netflix and Hulu issues

Anyone else still having issues with Netflix or Hulu? We just get errors saying things like trouble with playback at this time from both apps. Switch over to our Fire TV and don't have a single issue.
Wife wonders why the hell we even fool around with the NP. Can't really argue with her, but I want to believe in Android TV.
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Yep been having the same issues. Really wish I would've just got a chromecast for my room now. Off subject but how's the fire tv compared to the nexus player
Asadullah said:
Yep been having the same issues. Really wish I would've just got a chromecast for my room now. Off subject but how's the fire tv compared to the nexus player
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Fire TV is IMO the best streaming device on the market. You could make an argument for Roku, but I like the Fire TV because it can run Kodi. The only pros the NP has over the Fire TV are mpeg2 hardware deciding, Leanback Launcher, and built in Google cast. You can install an app on the FTV that allows casting for most all apps though.
The FTV just works. Never an issue with any apps like we see with the NP. I like the look and feel of Android TV better so I'm hoping they get these things straightened out.
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bradwatson said:
Fire TV is IMO the best streaming device on the market. You could make an argument for Roku, but I like the Fire TV because it can run Kodi. The only pros the NP has over the Fire TV are mpeg2 hardware deciding, Leanback Launcher, and built in Google cast. You can install an app on the FTV that allows casting for most all apps though.
The FTV just works. Never an issue with any apps like we see with the NP. I like the look and feel of Android TV better so I'm hoping they get these things straightened out.
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thanks for the input. based on your experience I'm going to sell my NP and get a Fire TV. Streaming (including Prime video) and Kodi are what I care about most. I have a Fire TV stick, but it has poor wifi and the remote sometimes lags. I guess the regular Fire TV shouldn't have those problems.
HKSpeed said:
thanks for the input. based on your experience I'm going to sell my NP and get a Fire TV. Streaming (including Prime video) and Kodi are what I care about most. I have a Fire TV stick, but it has poor wifi and the remote sometimes lags. I guess the regular Fire TV shouldn't have those problems.
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I'm primarily using Ethernet, but I've used WiFi some with the FTV and never had an issue. No controller lag either. The FTV is wife proof. It's a great device.
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The FTV is wife proof. It's a great device.
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is it surrounded in bullet proof glass? LOL!!!! I kid i kid.
Although I really don't think I'll buy another android box (ouya nexus player owner) I think I'd go for the amazon tv I don't need monthly updates
I've been feeling the same. I live in an apartment and with multiple using netflix on the old chromecast we never had an issue, now only the logged in netflix account has streaming capabilities, and even then rarely it will work, wishing I went with chromecast 2.
magestic1995 said:
I've been feeling the same. I live in an apartment and with multiple using netflix on the old chromecast we never had an issue, now only the logged in netflix account has streaming capabilities, and even then rarely it will work, wishing I went with chromecast 2.
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If you ever want to get really really angry call netflix and ask them about this. I promise you you'll wanna cancel your netflix subcription
Asadullah said:
If you ever want to get really really angry call netflix and ask them about this. I promise you you'll wanna cancel your netflix subcription
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What did they say in response to this?
magestic1995 said:
What did they say in response to this?
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After an hour of uninstalls resign ins and strange questions. They told me I need to reset my chromecast. After a 30 second pause I said, "huh"? Do you know what we're talking about here? I've got hulu so I cancelled my service.
Damn, I read this thread and am thankful I have not had an issue with netfix or the player. As someone who ones a fire tv, fire tv stick, and a nexus player. I have to say I like the player the most. If your net goes out the fire devices don't even load the menu. With the player I don't need to use another app to get kodi to launch from the main screen. I will say even with its issues the fire tv box does work really well. I notice the same remote lag on the box as I did the stick and I think its just the remote waking from sleep. It only lags if you have not used the remote in a while. I use the stick remote on my nexus player and it does the same thing. I don't like the players remote as it lacks a menu button. I do wish the player had ethernet.

All NEW Fire TV Cube Beats 4k Firestick & 2nd Gen FireTV !

Positives
Amazing Performance
Dolby Vision, Dolby Atmos, Netflix and Youtube in 4K 60fps
Adaptive frame rate switching.
Can control all other A/V equipment
8 far-field mic (no need to use remote to control Alexa)
Android 9
Negatives
1 Micro USB port only
No Built-In Ethernet
32bit OS
No HDMI cable supplied
You can see a full review with 4K video, gaming, benchmark tests against 4K Firestick / Nvidia Shield / 2nd Gen FireTV here
And mtk too?
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And mtk too?
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The CPU is the ARM Amlogic @ 1.91 GHz (1 processor, 6 cores)
Intenti0n said:
The CPU is the ARM Amlogic @ 1.91 GHz (1 processor, 6 cores)
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Ok thanks
Then IDK if it's worth to buy it since amlogic can't be exploited like with amonet?
Regards.
Rortiz2 said:
Ok thanks
Then IDK if it's worth to buy it since amlogic can't be exploited like with amonet?
Regards.
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Can be exploited this, just donate to @xXhighpowerXx for hack Amlogic devices
Not a great buy at the moment IMO. You can usually get deals for the FireTV 4K Stick for ~$25. The cube is more than 3x the price.
Why would you invest so much in the cheap crappy devices? Might as well jsut get a real Android TV box.
TimmyP said:
Why would you invest so much in the cheap crappy devices? Might as well jsut get a real Android TV box.
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Well I like Amazon devices and when side loaded with the right apps they work very well, I was using the Amazon Fire TV 2nd Gen (the flat square one) which I still think was Amazons best. I saw a Cube going a lot cheaper so bought one and well so far it's working great. The trouble with my old 2nd gen was the low on storage issue even though it was not really low on storage I think Amazon as slipped something on there to make it look as if the storage was low. The Cube I think is not a cheap crappy device at all and I would not go back to an Android box, ever.
Some other cons..
1. Amazon Game Controllers are no longer supported
2. Many sideloaded app icons show blank
I love mine though regardless of it's faults, with custom launcher anyway. Was finally worth the upgrade at prime day prices from my 2nd gen fire tv box.
2. Many sideloaded app icons show blank
Yes have a couple of apps were the icon does not load but they still work OK, but it does spoil the Cube. Also when I used my old TV 2nd gen (flat one) my amp would be turned up to 2 to 3 lights this Cube as to be turned up 5 to 6 lights so there is also a sound issue.
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Well I like Amazon devices and when side loaded with the right apps they work very well, I was using the Amazon Fire TV 2nd Gen (the flat square one) which I still think was Amazons best. I saw a Cube going a lot cheaper so bought one and well so far it's working great. The trouble with my old 2nd gen was the low on storage issue even though it was not really low on storage I think Amazon as slipped something on there to make it look as if the storage was low. The Cube I think is not a cheap crappy device at all and I would not go back to an Android box, ever.
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But you are on an Android box. You are rooting your device to make it closer to an Android box. You are basically telling people you prefer the Android software over native Android then what in gods name are you doing on XDA?
OK I see your point the Cube runs on Android and as for rooting to be honest I have no idea how to root
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2. Many sideloaded app icons show blank
Yes have a couple of apps were the icon does not load but they still work OK, but it does spoil the Cube. Also when I used my old TV 2nd gen (flat one) my amp would be turned up to 2 to 3 lights this Cube as to be turned up 5 to 6 lights so there is also a sound issue.
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Yes, it completely ruins the UI. I use Wolf Launcher instead. Would of returned it and carried on using 2nd gen box if no custom launcher..
..and not supporting their own controller, forcing me to sell it and use an xbox pad.. really ****ty move on their part.
Other than that though, yeah.. it's without a doubt the best amazon device.
If they put an Android TV version of All4 on the store though, I'd probably buy a shield. I also have games and apps I paid for on Amazon, which stops me getting a shield.
i think the broken icons are to do with the server where amazon gets its apps/icons from. when we install our apps the appstore cross references the apk and its icon/logo/banner with the ones on its server. if the apk isnt recognised on amazons server it presents it as a broken icon. i think there is a way round the broken icon thingy if you google atvlauncher trek icon design there is an icon generation page that lets you create your own in fact here is the link http://atvlauncher.trekgonewild.de/
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i think the broken icons are to do with the server where amazon gets its apps/icons from. when we install our apps the appstore cross references the apk and its icon/logo/banner with the ones on its server. if the apk isnt recognised on amazons server it presents it as a broken icon. i think there is a way round the broken icon thingy if you google atvlauncher trek icon design there is an icon generation page that lets you create your own in fact here is the link http://atvlauncher.trekgonewild.de/
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If it was the server then why is this only happening on the Cube my Fire TV 2nd gen is OK as is my friends stick
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If it was the server then why is this only happening on the Cube my Fire TV 2nd gen is OK as is my friends stick
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The Sloane is an older model, that means older version of android so probably more availability of icons.
I'm only surmising now but it's possible the icons maybe device specific and that more are available for the Sloane version of firmware?
I did read something about the broken icons being caused by certain apps for certain devices not being available from amazon app store.

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