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[Q] [DEV/REQUEST] USB Controller Support Kernel

Since we have not 1 but 2 working 3.1 ROMs for our beloved devices...how long after we get the 3.1 OTA do you think we can incorporate USB controller support on our fantastic new ROMs?
Chlballi

on this topic,
you will probably be seeing kernel fixes today
so you know.

In both HoneyVillain and Dexter's Aconia P1 roms, my Logitech F510 is recognized (using Xinput mode) and I've been using it with snes9x ex. The Xinput mode emulates an XBOX360 controller, so I figure those must work as well.

my honeyvillain didnt recognize my cheap analog chinese gamepad..
is there no way to make these cheap pad recognized?
fyi it only work in windows, not even on my mac os
but i hope some devs can make it to emulate like xbox controller like on windows which are needed for some games like gta IV

so one thing i've noticed w/ the xoom and other 3.1 tablets is that the usb controller support uses the micro-usb to female USB adapter then you plug in the controller to that... the MICRO usb port, I suspect that is the issue, we're all trying to plug the controler in to the full size usb ports just because we have it. If someone is able to (i don't have the adapter) try using the micro usb port with a micro - full adapter and get back before we start having the devs make these crazy changes.
also, i support the idea of making the full usb ports work with controllers like that so don't take this post the wrong way i just have this feeling that the intended use is for the micro - full adapters rather than our full port

Hogmeister said:
so one thing i've noticed w/ the xoom and other 3.1 tablets is that the usb controller support uses the micro-usb to female USB adapter then you plug in the controller to that... the MICRO usb port, I suspect that is the issue, we're all trying to plug the controler in to the full size usb ports just because we have it. If someone is able to (i don't have the adapter) try using the micro usb port with a micro - full adapter and get back before we start having the devs make these crazy changes.
also, i support the idea of making the full usb ports work with controllers like that so don't take this post the wrong way i just have this feeling that the intended use is for the micro - full adapters rather than our full port
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asus and xoom uses the micro usb , as it has a chipset that support usbmode switching, so it can run in host or device mode.. nothing else..
its special in that way support OTG android mode, cable is a little different too with ground attached to different pin, but thats it..
we got the right usb port as i know it, and since we got a device usb port we dont need usbport mode switching here..

well i understand that we have the right usb port i'm just theorizing that because all the other tablets out there that use 3.1 only have micro then most likely support for the full sized port wasn't baked into 3.1 for people like us.. might take a small feat to get it working on full usb for us.
then again i don't know for sure, its just a theory i came up w/ after looking into it myself

Perhaps you all are testing wrong. I found an emulator for Snes that works with my usb controller. SuperGnes.

No issues for me playing nes emulators with my wired 360 controller.

anyone managed to get a usb cd rom working? I've tried plugging one in but nothing so far. running dexters primee 8
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any dev maybe can port ps3 controller driver from asus to acer ??
as now we have kernel code (even its only 3.0.1 code, but as i understand with some modification its possible )

yes, my 360 wired controller works fine.

ps3 controller support via USB is now added to my kernel..
for other kernel modders..
its just including "CONFIG_HID_SONY" and its all solved, so you know..
its not default with acer kernel.

So still no go on non-sony controllers?
Chlballi

chlballi said:
So still no go on non-sony controllers?
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kernel got lotsa choices, so details for which to choose , if a research, and adding all of them is probably not the best to do..
maybe you can search google on your joystick + linux kernel ,and see what pops up. maybe a simple yes or no for support, og some techno babble explaining how to add it..

Dexter_nlb said:
ps3 controller support via USB is now added to my kernel..
for other kernel modders..
its just including "CONFIG_HID_SONY" and its all solved, so you know..
its not default with acer kernel.
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I hope its compatible with acer 3.1

interqd said:
I hope its compatible with acer 3.1
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its runs pretty well in my 3.1 iconia edition, so yes.

Dexter_nlb said:
its runs pretty well in my 3.1 iconia edition, so yes.
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But i see you didnt make a new thread for your kernel.. hope u make it soon
So i can use with other acer based roms ..

I'm just trying to get generic USB gamepads to work..I'll see what I can find for that..
Chlballi

[Q]PS3 Controller on 3.1

Hi updated my tab with the official update.zip found here and now i'm under 3.1, but if i connect my PS3 pads they just charge and i can't get them to work with Snesoid or in the homescreens like i saw in a bunch of videos from Xoom and Transformers.
There's a workaround or the A500 version of 3.1 lacks of this feature (it would be very disappointing)?

DJ_Jedi said:
Hi updated my tab with the official update.zip found here and now i'm under 3.1, but if i connect my PS3 pads they just charge and i can't get them to work with Snesoid or in the homescreens like i saw in a bunch of videos from Xoom and Transformers.
There's a workaround or the A500 version of 3.1 lacks of this feature (it would be very disappointing)?
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i have the same problem

or they use a third part things to make them able to play...

Did you go into Settings _> Language & Input -> Keyboard Settings ->
Configure Input Devices and turn on the PS3 Controller
then back and
Current Input Method and choose the PS3 controller
I know I have to do something similar for the WiiControllerIME

MurderCity420 said:
Did you go into Settings _> Language & Input -> Keyboard Settings ->
Configure Input Devices and turn on the PS3 Controller
then back and
Current Input Method and choose the PS3 controller
I know I have to do something similar for the WiiControllerIME
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Thanks, but no luck, it doesn't see the controller. I think i'll mail Acer to ask about this.
EDIT: just tried a wireless mouse, it works like a charm. I think they have dropped the controller drivers

DJ_Jedi said:
Thanks, but no luck, it doesn't see the controller. I think i'll mail Acer to ask about this.
EDIT: just tried a wireless mouse, it works like a charm. I think they have dropped the controller drivers
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i plan to try my madcatz ps3 fightpad tonight, it's wireless with a dongle.
if i remember correctly, 3.1's gamepad support is for usb hid gamepads. the bluetooth ps3 pads may require a bit more to just work.

But i connected it via USB, not with bluetooth. I dont have different pads, just 2 PS3 ones, but i dont understand why on Xoom and Transformers they works and on A500 not.

I could be wrong, but pretty sure using the USB cord with factory ps3 controllers does not make them USB controllers! The USB is ONLY for charging ps3 controllers. They are bluetooth 100% of the time(mine are this way). And just as the way you use them with ps3, they must be synced to work.
My advice, just get a cheap USB controller, maybe even one for windows PC. They are usually around $5. Or find a knockoff ps3 controller found on many of the chinese sites for about the same money...should work till BT PS3 controller is sorted.

oasisautospa said:
I could be wrong, but pretty sure using the USB cord with factory ps3 controllers does not make them USB controllers! The USB is ONLY for charging ps3 controllers.
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You're wrong. On windows they work with USB cable.

They work USB on PS3 too, for example when they are in charge or you enter in recovery mode.
More sixaxis and DS3 work with Xoom and Transformers (in a video the guy says: "you just need to connect and press the PS button").

Agosh13 said:
You're wrong. On windows they work with USB cable.
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Out of the box, the PS3 controllers are charge-only over USB. You have to use a third-party driver to use the PS3 controller over USB on a PC. The only console controller drivers built-in to Windows OS are for the XBox controllers (for obvious reasons).
Even on the PS3 system, if you plug the controller in to the USB ports while playing, it will use Bluetooth if it's available. If for some reason Bluetooth is not available then the PS3 will resort to USB as if it was a PS2 controller, but you won't have the full PS3 controller functionality (which is why Sony has it default to Bluetooth whenever possible).

But on Honeycomb 3.1 they probably embeded the driver because on the other 2 it works out of the box.

I have a retrolink USB nes game pad that I was going to try with Nesoid. The buttons work in menus and such, but the direction pad does not
The buttons don't seem to return any particular key press, so it doesn't seem mappable.
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Just did some more testing with a few more USB devices I had laying around. My saitek joystick lets me navigate menus and button presses will do things like open programs, it doesn't seem to work in nesoid. I have an old nostromo n50 game pad, the kind you rest your left hand on. It works perfect with nesoid.
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i have 3 sixaxis and 2 dual shocks and neither work. i'll try a third party ps3 nyko controller next i guess.

internetpilot said:
Out of the box, the PS3 controllers are charge-only over USB. You have to use a third-party driver to use the PS3 controller over USB on a PC. The only console controller drivers built-in to Windows OS are for the XBox controllers (for obvious reasons).
Even on the PS3 system, if you plug the controller in to the USB ports while playing, it will use Bluetooth if it's available. If for some reason Bluetooth is not available then the PS3 will resort to USB as if it was a PS2 controller, but you won't have the full PS3 controller functionality (which is why Sony has it default to Bluetooth whenever possible).
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NO. The controller can work with bluetooth or with USB. There aren't charge only over USB.

OTG cable doesnt make a difference either-. Nio micro usb support. For my ps3 controller.

I want to know why on Transformers and Xoom the DS3 works...

no luck on nyko zero ps3 controller either, though its junk anyway.
i wish i had wired xbox 360 controllers but i only have those in wireless

Agosh13 said:
NO. The controller can work with bluetooth or with USB. There aren't charge only over USB.
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When using a PS3 controller with a PS3 system, it will use bluetooth connectivity whenever possible. If for some reason a controller will not sync with the PS3, you can get it to connect over USB, but that's not the preferred/default method. You can easily see this to be true when you're playing a game while charging your controller via USB. Unplug the USB cable -- did your controller lose connectivity? No, because it was always connected via bluetooth. Otherwise, if it lost USB connectivity it would have to reconnect via bluetooth when you disconnected the cable.
As for the PS3 controller on other devices via USB or bluetooth, to the best of my knowledge every single device requires drivers. This includes Android v3.1 devices -- some of them just have the driver built-in to their ROM. Apparently, Acer did not include that.

Connecting random stuff to OTG cable...

Just wondering what people have tried to connect to their SGS2s via OTG cables... I have tried the following:
Working:
Generic Logitech wireless mouse via USB wireless dongle
Logitech MX1000 wireless mouse via MX's docking station
Genius USB laser mouse
8GB micro SD card via USB adaptor
64GB SSD USB HDD via y-splitter for additional power
Wireless USB mini keyboard with touchpad (the touchpad worked perfectly & CTRL-ALT-DEL rebooted the phone!!!)
Not working:
Samsung ML-2240 laser printer (recognized but won't print)
Logitech STX webcam (unknown device)
Generic bluetooth USB dongle (unknown device)

87 views and no-one else plugging random USB **** into their phone? Just me then, lol.

i tried to plug in via usb:
generic usb mouse
many usb keys from 2 - 16gb
via bluetooth:
mouse
not working via usb:
generic keyboard
via hdmi and working:
lg lcd tv
projector philips
but via hdmi subtitles was not shown, only on phone
i will try printers today...
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Major_Sarcasm said:
Generic bluetooth USB dongle (unknown device)
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Would be kind of pointless anyway.
When my SGS2 and an OTG arrive, I will test some of my hardware(G15(gaming keyboard with lcd display), Razer Diamondback(mouse), Saitek Cyborg EVO(Joystick), HD2(Android phone) and if I ever have too much money and time, something like THIS and of course USB storage devices from 16MB-1,5TB etc. ) Will let you guys know how everything works.

Raudi1 said:
I will test some of my hardware(G15(gaming keyboard with lcd display
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I tried my Logitech G15 and didn't have much success. Connected directly, it's simply a high power USB device, and via a powered hub, it sometimes is detected, usually isn't (seems to depend in what order it's connected). Regardless, I haven't managed to make it function correctly.
On the other hand, my Logitech MX 518 mouse works great connected directly.
My Logitech Webcam 9000 Pro is detected (even directly), but is unrecognized.

I did some tests with the OTG.
Working:
All USB sticks I tested with.
Keychain Spycam. You can even charge it with the phone Only the webcame mode doesn't work
Some old Logitech wireless notebook mouse
Standard Logitech mouse (one that came with a pc)
Not working:
NTFS drive(Haven't tried the NTFS drivers)
HTC HD2-ADB: High power device. Can't test with powered HUB, because the only one I have is the one in my pc display and that doesn't seem to work with my SGS2.
Razer Diamondback:High power device.
Logitech G15:High power device. (as reported above)
Saitek Cyborg Evo (Joystick):The LEDs in the joystick are working, but whatever I press, nothing happens on the device.
Cheap keyboard with backlight:High power device.
Edit: of courses wifi, Bluetooth and UMTS/HSDPA aren't working over otg either xD
Will update when I try more devices

Has anyone tried if it works with a Logitech G700 ?

Do I need 2.3.4 for all this ? I've heard I do ..

I was wondering if a usb dvb-t tuner should work to watch tv( i didn't try).
Hope someone will test it

Connected my digital camera Sony CyberShot DSC-W300 with USB and a new folder appeared in the Gallery app with all the pictures, impressed.
Didn't work with a Canon G5.

I tried a generic USB mouse and keyboard, several flash drives and my wireless mini-keyboard/mouse-combo via USB dongle
Everything worked
Dr.Sid said:
Do I need 2.3.4 for all this ? I've heard I do ..
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Nope, works on 2.3.3 as well.
Samsung implemented the host stuff from the start on.

Just wondering which OTG cables you guys are using. Also are there externally powered versions available (to power devices with higher requirements)?

I use a cheap 9 bucks one from the ew-Bay.
One day I left the wireless dongle for my minikeyboard/-mouse thing connected - phone was in standby all day, but battery was dead empty after a few hours *lol*

Xbox 360 wired controller : recognized as unknown device, lovely it looks it's NOT a power eating controller ! Lights turn on ok
Apple iPad 1G : could work great (device well mounting at first) but it's recognized as high power device, so... Not working.
Sony PSP : Works perfect
Another android phone (Xperia x10i) : guest detects well USB connection, it charges battery (!) and USB mount works. However, host doesn't detect anything.

I tryied my usb 3 drive formated with ntfs and it worked,:good: played mkv video nice and smooth.
As for the cable I bought it on ebay just standard otg cable

I tried Logitech M310 mouse and K360 keyboard both worked.

Can't find any OTG cable in my area :/ and Ebay is not supported in PK yet

ii7Stryker said:
Can't find any OTG cable in my area :/ and Ebay is not supported in PK yet
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Try dealextreme - free shipping worldwide. I bought OTG for about two dollars.

Thanks for telling , I will order it from them .

ii7Stryker said:
Thanks for telling , I will order it from them .
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I have this one from DealExtreme: Micro USB Male to USB Female OTG Cable for Samsung Galaxy S2/i9100/Nokia N8 + More

[Q] N10 360 Wireless Controller setup

I recently got an XBOX 360 controller to try to get it working with my Nexus 10 however it is not recognizing the controller. The controller itself is a XBOX 360 controller with a USB charging adapter. Since I don't have the USB wireless receiver I'm trying to get the controller to be recognized through the USB cable. Thus I have connected the USB to an OTG cable. When I hit the synch button it continually flashes but does not synch. Is there something I need to do to my N10 to get it to properly recognize the controller? Drivers or rooting etc???
My Nexus 10 is currently stock Android 4.2, so I'm not sure if that makes a difference, it has NOT been rooted yet.
Thanks

mikegonzalez2k said:
I recently got an XBOX 360 controller to try to get it working with my Nexus 10 however it is not recognizing the controller. The controller itself is a XBOX 360 controller with a USB charging adapter. Since I don't have the USB wireless receiver I'm trying to get the controller to be recognized through the USB cable. Thus I have connected the USB to an OTG cable. When I hit the synch button it continually flashes but does not synch. Is there something I need to do to my N10 to get it to properly recognize the controller? Drivers or rooting etc???
My Nexus 10 is currently stock Android 4.2, so I'm not sure if that makes a difference, it has NOT been rooted yet.
Thanks
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Has to be a wired 360 controller. As far as i know the wireless model still connects wirelessly even when plugged in with a 360.
The wired controller is working great for me in GTA vice city though.

mikegonzalez2k said:
I recently got an XBOX 360 controller to try to get it working with my Nexus 10 however it is not recognizing the controller. The controller itself is a XBOX 360 controller with a USB charging adapter. Since I don't have the USB wireless receiver I'm trying to get the controller to be recognized through the USB cable. Thus I have connected the USB to an OTG cable. When I hit the synch button it continually flashes but does not synch. Is there something I need to do to my N10 to get it to properly recognize the controller? Drivers or rooting etc???
My Nexus 10 is currently stock Android 4.2, so I'm not sure if that makes a difference, it has NOT been rooted yet.
Thanks
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the wireless 360 controller does work on a N10, but you need the XBOX 360 Wireless Receiver and your OTG cable. unfortunately this setup is not supported by any of the games i've tried. vice city for instance does not even have a deadzone setting for the wireless controller and the button mappings are all over the place, whereas everything is preconfigured for the wired version.

mista.maja said:
the wireless 360 controller does work on a N10, but you need the XBOX 360 Wireless Receiver and your OTG cable. unfortunately this setup is not supported by any of the games i've tried. vice city for instance does not even have a deadzone setting for the wireless controller and the button mappings are all over the place, whereas everything is preconfigured for the wired version.
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Yeah, the wireless receiver is essential. The n10 doesn't have a key map for wireless Xbox controllers, which is why they don't work with most games. But if you've rooted it's easy to get it all working. See this thread from the n7 forum, same process applies to the n10. Been playing GTA Vice City with a wireless controller, works like a charm.

Quonith said:
Yeah, the wireless receiver is essential. The n10 doesn't have a key map for wireless Xbox controllers, which is why they don't work with most games. But if you've rooted it's easy to get it all working. See this thread from the n7 forum, same process applies to the n10. Been playing GTA Vice City with a wireless controller, works like a charm.
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very interesting... thanks!

crazy talk said:
Has to be a wired 360 controller. As far as i know the wireless model still connects wirelessly even when plugged in with a 360.
The wired controller is working great for me in GTA vice city though.
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Do you have to do any setup to get it to recognize the wired 360 controller? Do you just plug it in to the micro-usb port?

AndroidLonghorn said:
Do you have to do any setup to get it to recognize the wired 360 controller? Do you just plug it in to the micro-usb port?
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well, yeah.
360 controller -› OTG cable -› N10
no need to configure anything....

mista.maja said:
well, yeah.
360 controller -› OTG cable -› N10
no need to configure anything....
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That's easier than using the wiimote. Thanks!

RAZRi XT890 USB OTG Capabilities (Thread for all Devices)

Me and few other people still asking about OTG capabilities so lets make combined thread for all.
What I figured out for now.
First of all RAZR i does not support OTG itself cause has no power on micro USB port so You need more than regular USB OTG cable.
You need minimum 1A powered USB HUB which means just buy regular 3/4/8 ports USB HUB but with 1A (can be 2A too) AC adapter.
So connection should looks like:
RAZRi -> OTG Cable -> USB Powered HUB -> USB Device
It's simple part. Lest make something harder.
List of devices which I tested:
USB HUB
KitKat should bring more OTG capabilitiesfor us so to prepare for that I bought new USB HUB with built in OTG support.
It the same like THIS one and it's dedicated for Samsung S3, S4 etc.
Hub is made not so bad, it has built in OTG support so no need other adapters and it has power connector.
To use this HUB You need to connect it to DC 5V/1A with 1,35/3,5 to USB cable. I used this cable and regular Moto wall charger. You can also use power bank as power for more mobility.
All my USB devices working fine under this HUB so I can recommend this for RAZRi.
Mouses and Keyboards
RAZRi has no problems to detect and handle with most of mouses and keyboards. No modifications are needed. Just Plug & Play.
USB Drives (Pendrives, HDD's etc)
Unfortunately none of them are working. Phone detects devices in some apps but drives are not detected as drives, just devices and they can't be mounted. I think without any kernel modifications drives can't be mounted. Apps to mount drives can't handle with it too.
USB Audio Devices / DAC
Unfortunately I have only 2 devices like that. Sound Blaster Surround 5.1 USB and Logitech Stereo USB Speakers.
Both tested with USB Audio Tester ROOT.
Creative is correctly detected but there is no sound on every setting.
Logitech USB speakers are detected correctly too but I was able to make it works but only to hear sound from internal microphone. No way to hear music or any sound from phone.
I tested SoundAbout Pro tp force playing from USB host but it failed. I don't know any other app can make it. Also I'm really noob at Linux so I have no idea what to modify in Alsa driver to redirect sound on USB audio device.
USB Game Controllers / PAD
I have only wireless XBOX360 pad so can be hard to make it work but heard somewhere that can be possible. In few days i'll check what can be done with it.
Tested with Logitech Cordless Rumblepad 2, working like a charm without any mods. OFC You need to use button mapper or any similar app cause after connect pad is working like mouse but after remap we have fully working cordless pad.
USB Network Adapters
At this moment I tested only cheap RJ45 to USB adapter but it doesn't work. Strange cause activity led on adapter is blinking sometimes and it stops when phone is off but nothing except this.
Any other news, suggestions, tests of working devices are welcome.

Network adapters updated.
Wysłane z Motorola RAZR i.

You need to mod the kernel to add usbstorage like the samsung S3 and the framework apk i think, maybe some hardcore developers can help on it.
xbox 360 controller is detected as device but is not working something is missing cuz i added the keylayout for the device and is not working. but you can remap any keyboard keylayout to work as joystic XD.

Updated GamePads section.

USB HUB with OTG added.

Very nice, I tryed, and it works like a charm. I could use a keyboard and mouse runing Ubuntu 15.10 on CHROOT