Filing a lawsuit. Against verizon and samsung - Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Anybody think we would have a case if we file a class action lawsuit against samsung and verizon. For locking down our phones and not letting us use android for what it was intended for. I mean android being open source means we should be able to change it to our liking. Not be lock down and missing the full android experience that it offer because I'm sure all of you agrees that TouchWiz sucks and the galaxy note line that samsung offer is awesome. Need some input on what yall think. And if this post is not allowed I do apologize.
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Not a chance. You bought the phone locked down. Its not like they locked it after you got it. They don't make any promises that you are buying a phone that is open source and unlocked for modifying

Good luck they can hire 100 lawyers worth 20 grand a piece who you gonna have?
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droidfreak02 said:
Anybody think we would have a case if we file a class action lawsuit against samsung and verizon. For locking down our phones and not letting us use android for what it was intended for. I mean android being open source means we should be able to change it to our liking. Not be lock down and missing the full android experience that it offer because I'm sure all of you agrees that TouchWiz sucks and the galaxy note line that samsung offer is awesome. Need some input on what yall think. And if this post is not allowed I do apologize.
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A topic for Samsung

As a fairly new owner of a galaxy s3 and I have never used an android before I have loved your phone from the beginning.
Then I thought what else can I do to it to make it even better.
Open android was drawn to me because it gives users of your devices the option to modify their device the way they want to.
This doesn't take away the fact that it was your company that built the phone or the software inside it just means that we can get more out of the phone than you intended.
Since having this phone I have told others about it and what it can do and have even got others to think about owning one too.
This is from word of mouth that your sales increase, the more options available to your phones the more your sales will increase.
Closing the door on that option will decrease sales, word of mouth will get smaller and people will go elsewhere to buy phones with more to offer.
Why not think of the people that build roms and mods and make kernels to modify your devices free developers and the people who modify their phones and tell others free advertising.
You can't go wrong.
If it's only money you are after then money you will receive.
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Sorry to tell you, I don't think Samsung will give a crap about this thread.
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I don't care just wanted to say it anyway
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OP... this is XDA-Developers not Samsung. There's a general chat for a reason- so we don't clutter the forums with useless threads.
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I don't care just wanted to say it anyway
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Then why post it, I didn't see anything specific or useful in your comment. If it's about exynos, a thread already exists. That's the only thing that's being demanded.
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Wow bro you clearly have no idea...
what do you think how many people actually root their Android phone? Id guess something like 5% and believe me samsung wants to keep this number as low as possible because if there are huge advantages in rooting more people would do it. if they unlocked everything and gave the community every possible driver you know what would happen?
The Galaxy S4 came out in March or so and nobody would buy it. maybe it has a 12mp camera more efficient processor but if it runs the exact same firmware as the s3, much less people would buy it. the changes would be too small. Hardware and Software are the only things that you buy from samsung. if they handed out the newest software for every phone they built, they would lose that factor for new phones they wanna sell.
Apple did the same thing with the 4S. do you think the i phone 4 cant run siri? oh but it can but the changes in the 4s were so small that they needed something new. since the hardware did change much they had to improve the software.
thread closed - let samsung know your thoughts directly

[Q] note fans will you be joining pen.up?

kudos to samsung for such a very nice social networking app, i just became a member using my note 2 and when i upgrade to the note 3 as well, i love it!
http://www.engadget.com/2013/10/02/samsung-pen-up-app-social-networking-s-pen/
Yeah just seen the news on beginnerstech.co.uk so I'll defo be signing up but I'll need to practice as some of the skill out there is just crazy
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I would join, but I can't draw for s**t.
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artists will have a field day with this.
also, why not let samsung open this up for all android phones (though i suspect they might expand it if it gets popular, maybe even reaching the tizen phones too)
reposted the entire link as I couldnt earlier..
i cant help but notice some of the art there are probably not original at all but the ones i think that are are really good. i hope the note tablets will get this as well

Purchasing used Note 4 Developer Edition

I just purchased a used DE Note 4. The baseband version is N910VVRU2BOF1. The guy said it was used on Verizon since this August, but he said he didn't accept any OTAs from Verizon. I haven't received it yet and he hadn't shipped it, but how would I be able to tell if the bootloader is unlocked before he ships it? I'm wanting to install TWRP and put MOROM on it as soon as I get it. I hope this isn't a stupid question, I've been out of the Android tweaking scene since last year so I'm a little rusty.
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Bullhead00 said:
I just purchased a used DE Note 4. The baseband version is N910VVRU2BOF1. The guy said it was used on Verizon since this August, but he said he didn't accept any OTAs from Verizon. I haven't received it yet and he hadn't shipped it, but how would I be able to tell if the bootloader is unlocked before he ships it? I'm wanting to install TWRP and put MOROM on it as soon as I get it. I hope this isn't a stupid question, I've been out of the Android tweaking scene since last year so I'm a little rusty.
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You will have to start the phone holding the power, home and volume down. When the menu appears, it should say mode: developer, with blue letters, if I'm not wrong. If you don't see developer anywhere in that menu, it's retail. Ask him to provide you with a photo of that screen.
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razvu said:
You will have to start the phone holding the power, home and volume down. When the menu appears, it should say mode: developer, with blue letters, if I'm not wrong. If you don't see developer anywhere in that menu, it's retail. Ask him to provide you with a photo of that screen.
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Thanks for the reply! I've never owned a developer edition device before. Still running my MDK Galaxy S4, rooted with Phil's Touch Recovery. Nothing wrong with it at all, just wanted to get the last phone available from Samsung with an unlocked bootloader, removable battery, and expandable memory. Who knows how long I'll hang onto this (assuming the bootloader is unlocked). I guess I could attempt to send it in to Samsung for a reflash?
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Bullhead00 said:
Thanks for the reply! I've never owned a developer edition device before. Still running my MDK Galaxy S4, rooted with Phil's Touch Recovery. Nothing wrong with it at all, just wanted to get the last phone available from Samsung with an unlocked bootloader, removable battery, and expandable memory. Who knows how long I'll hang onto this (assuming the bootloader is unlocked). I guess I could attempt to send it in to Samsung for a reflash?
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If the phone was originally a developer edition, you can send it to Samsung for a reflash, if necessary. There should be proof that the phone is actually a developer edition (receipt from the seller), or IMEI and model number which should be SMN910VMKE. If the phone is still in warranty, they will most likely reflash it for free.
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razvu said:
If the phone was originally a developer edition, you can send it to Samsung for a reflash, if necessary. There should be proof that the phone is actually a developer edition (receipt from the seller), or IMEI and model number which should be SMN910VMKE. If the phone is still in warranty, they will most likely reflash it for free.
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Man I appreciate the information big time. That makes me feel a little better about the purchase. The guy bought it new in August and it's had a screen protector on it from day one. Picked it up for $480 off eBay.
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Bullhead00 said:
Man I appreciate the information big time. That makes me feel a little better about the purchase. The guy bought it new in August and it's had a screen protector on it from day one. Picked it up for $480 off eBay.
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Good luck, I hope it is as described.
I had a similar experience, but the phone had a hardware defect, which was really questionable, however the seller had proof of purchase and the phone was in warranty.
Then, it took Samsung a month to fix the problem. First, they fixed the hardware issue by replacing the motherboard, screen, etc, but they flashed the retail software and it came locked. I had to call them second time and speak with someone from the repair center and explain clearly and repeatedly that the bootloader should be unlocked as it's a developer edition.
After a long month and 2 trips, it's running great, how all the Note 4 should run, no ads, tethering, etc.
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razvu said:
Good luck, I hope it is as described.
I had a similar experience, but the phone had a hardware defect, which was really questionable, however the seller had proof of purchase and the phone was in warranty.
Then, it took Samsung a month to fix the problem. First, they fixed the hardware issue by replacing the motherboard, screen, etc, but they flashed the retail software and it came locked. I had to call them second time and speak with someone from the repair center and explain clearly and repeatedly that the bootloader should be unlocked as it's a developer edition.
After a long month and 2 trips, it's running great, how all the Note 4 should run, no ads, tethering, etc.
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Awesome! I'm guessing you're still on grandfathered unlimited data? I still have my unlimited from back in 2007 when I worked at a Verizon store. Not giving it up!
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Bullhead00 said:
Awesome! I'm guessing you're still on grandfathered unlimited data? I still have my unlimited from back in 2007 when I worked at a Verizon store. Not giving it up!
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Yep, 2 lines on unlimited that's why I wanted a developer phone, so I can use tethering if needed. Both Note 4 and S4 seem to get very good reception.
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razvu said:
Yep, 2 lines on unlimited that's why I wanted a developer phone, so I can use tethering if needed. Both Note 4 and S4 seem to get very good reception.
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My wife and I both have unlimited Verizon. My cousin has a Note 4 on unlimited also, and he always has slightly better reception than my S4.
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Bullhead00 said:
My wife and I both have unlimited Verizon. My cousin has a Note 4 on unlimited also, and he always has slightly better reception than my S4.
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You will like the phone. I run Jasmine rom with Nova launcher, there is no lag, much smoother than stock TouchWiz. I tried Morom, I liked it, but I couldn't get rid of Google services error. I tried everything I could think of.
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You will like the phone. I run Jasmine rom with Nova launcher, there is no lag, much smoother than stock TouchWiz. I tried Morom, I liked it, but I couldn't get rid of Google services error. I tried everything I could think of.
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I had planned on running Morom actually. I'll look into Jasmine. There's not a whole lot to choose from really from what I've seen. I'm just looking mainly for reliability because I use my phone for pretty much everything.
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Bullhead00 said:
I had planned on running Morom actually. I'll look into Jasmine. There's not a whole lot to choose from really from what I've seen. I'm just looking mainly for reliability because I use my phone for pretty much everything.
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Same here, I need it to be reliable, I just couldn't put up with the random errors in Morom. Let me know if you get it to work. I tried reading through the thread, a lot of people complain about them, not sure about the fix.
Feature wise, I liked Morom.
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razvu said:
Same here, I need it to be reliable, I just couldn't put up with the random errors in Morom. Let me know if you get it to work. I tried reading through the thread, a lot of people complain about them, not sure about the fix.
Feature wise, I liked Morom.
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I'll update this thread with my progress. Thanks for all the info again! Can't thank you enough!
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Bullhead00 said:
I'll update this thread with my progress. Thanks for all the info again! Can't thank you enough!
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You're welcome!
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I want one! $480 is a good deal.
EBAY and swappa both have slim pickings.
I would guess bad ESN is rare, unless reported stolen.
heres one on fleabay - http://www.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-Gal...777636?hash=item280c57e0e4:g:ZzYAAOSwxN5WT-WB
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heres one on fleabay - http://www.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-Gal...777636?hash=item280c57e0e4:g:ZzYAAOSwxN5WT-WB
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Who knows that that one will go for! The last one I was watching that was up for bid instead of buy it now went for over $900!!
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i am still on kitkat haha i love it!
Yeah who cares about the OS. I haven't seen much change since ICS.
Are all the touch wiz roms for DE based on 4.4.4?
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Yeah who cares about the OS. I haven't seen much change since ICS.
Are all the touch wiz roms for DE based on 4.4.4?
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No, Morom and Jasmine are based on latest Lollipop (BOG5).
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Petition to unlock Bootloader

Since this is a huge violation of the term open source imo I wanted to post thks here as well since this topic section is still active
https://www.change.org/p/samsung-un...tm_source=petitions_share&utm_medium=copylink
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Misspelled words and poor composition won't get that petition very far.
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Misspelled words and poor composition won't get that petition very far.
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This, and the fact that it hasn't really helped in the past.
The real customer to Samsung is Verizon. Not us. We are just Verizon's users of which wealth is to be extracted from.
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First rule of purchasing a phone: buy it for the features it has, not the ones it might someday get. Otherwise you will be disappointed.
You knew the bootloader was locked down tight when you bought the phone. There is no chance in hell it is going to get unlocked. Deal with it. If an unlocked bootloader is that important to you you should have bought a Nexus.
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OP is a full fledged member of the optimists club I guess.
PiousInquisitor said:
First rule of purchasing a phone: buy it for the features it has, not the ones it might someday get. Otherwise you will be disappointed.
You knew the bootloader was locked down tight when you bought the phone. There is no chance in hell it is going to get unlocked. Deal with it. If an unlocked bootloader is that important to you you should have bought a Nexus.
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If only it had all the same feature. I like the nexus but do like samsung more for the little built in features.

Verizon Note 7 removing features

Droid Life just reported that the Verizon is removing the Device Maintenance and RAM management feature from the phone
Link?
https://twitter.com/droid_life
No official article, just tweets. But looks like the screen is different too.
"Bottom line, Verizon wants you to have their version of the Note 7, not Samsung's. Spoiler: Their's isn't better than Samsung's." - Droid Life
Gotta love this
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God Verizon makes me sick with this
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This is ridiculous. I will happily return the phone and buy from somewhere else. No need for this. And I can't believe Samsung still let's Verizon pull crap like this
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God ****ing dammit, Verizon...
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https://twitter.com/droid_life
No official article, just tweets. But looks like the screen is different too.
"Bottom line, Verizon wants you to have their version of the Note 7, not Samsung's. Spoiler: Their's isn't better than Samsung's." - Droid Life
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Thanks for the link. Personally, I'm not going to worry about it. Does it suck yea. Am I going to return my phone or or leave Verizon? *sign* No....
My screen seems fine. I'm it sure what all was removed, but i really don't see a point in it
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No Samsung cloud either, unless I'm overlooking it.
Just gotta wait for that sweet, sweet N930U version to come out.
From what I have seen so far as well is the Verizon model is the only one that still has the old settings layout and not the new one like in all the advertisements.
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No Samsung cloud either, unless I'm overlooking it.
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Just posted about this can't find it either
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getting on live chat with verizon to see what they have to say about this total bull****
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getting on live chat with verizon to see what they have to say about this total bull****
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Results?
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Maybe we can get the apk unless root is required. I was really looking forward to this feature.
What does this mean in terms of usability? What actual features are removed? Can we still tailor the battery saving stuff?
I tried every work around I know of. It seems it's not just hidden, but in fact missing. Hope we can recover it from a different model...
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Just gotta wait for that sweet, sweet N930U version to come out.
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That's not always the cure. The newer unlocked s7 versions are still on a May software version with not 1 update since its June 30 release. I had one and sold it.
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I tried every work around I know of. It seems it's not just hidden, but in fact missing. Hope we can recover it from a different model...
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Does anyone know if its working on the TMO model? I'll check out their forums. Has Samsung really initiated it out of the box? Their website is vague but mentions Note 7 although I read somewhere an update will include it.
I figured the August security update might include it but that was a no go. This is bull****
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