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Hello Folks,
I am posting this thread after a very long time on XDA as I was not using any HTC device.I was using Iphone since it was launched in USA.Now I bought 3 nexus one for me and my family with very high hopes but after iserting my simcard into it since last week I am very much disappoined.beside other samll issues like less responsive touch screen the problem I am having is a cellular signal. I am using this phone in the same area where I was using my 3gs phone and it was giving me full bars.And with nexus one I am having a really hard time to get signals some time even no signal and my calls are being missed/droped.I believe due to this problem battey life of the device is not impressive. And that was the main reason of quitting Iphone as I wanted multitasking device with better bettery life.I spoke to nexus one support line for few times their response was good but I it did not help me as I am having same problem although they offered me to replace device.but the thing is I already have 3 devices and if they are giving me same problem.
All I am hopping is a new upgrade to fix this issuse and I have no idea if this gona be fixed with the software upgrade?.
Idea of this thread is to get feedback from other folks using ATT/Rogers version of Nexus one specially in Canada/Western Canada.And any advise /help form my experts folks in this respect.
Your taking time in reading this is much appreciated.
May Almighty Bless you all.
Thanks.
Unfortunately what they're saying is:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/22/google-no-longer-investigating-fix-for-nexus-one-3g-issues-ad/
I'm in Manitoba, Canada, this is my first 3G phone so I don't have much to compare to. I've had maybe a couple calls dropped, but doesn't seem that bad...
However, I did try using the app called Antennas and everywhere in my city it always says "3g support is very limited"
I'm in western Canada using the Nexus One as well, and I too switched from an iPhone 3G. My initial impression was similar to your's where I felt like the touch screen wasn't as responsive and signal not as strong. As time passed I quickly forgot about all that and with the exception of the awkward response area of the bottom buttons, I'm starting to think that the N1's touchscreen is actually better for some stuff. I still wish Android had inertial scrolling with the snap-back effect like the iPhone though.
When Opera Mini came out for the iPhone I put my sim card back into it so that I could try it out, and after the end of the day I couldn't wait to get back to the N1. I don't know about your usage, but when I have push Gmail setup on the iPhone I can't make it through a day without on a single charge, so I think the N1 battery is much better.
Signal strength felt poor at first, but I think that's just because of how it's reported by each phone. The iPhone seems much more generous and will show more bars for the same signal strength as the N1. The only thing that still bugs me now is how much effect my hand has when holding the phone near the bottom. Never did I have to think about hand placement with the iPhone, but I've adapted to that now.
Im from western canada too, medicine hat to be exact. I, as you all, came from an iphone. I had a 16gb 3gs. Where i work the receiption is horrible. With the iphone i would have to have the phone placed on a certain corner of my desk to make sure i got signal.
With the nexus, its slightly better. I get minimum signal but its constant thoughout my office.
Compaired to a iphone, this phone is the cats meow. I love the nexus and will never be returning to an iphone again. It has a better screen, more responsive touch, is fully customizable and i get ~28 hours of battery. Thats right, 28 hours. Not 6 if im lucky like the iphone.
I have the AT&T N1 which also supports Rogers and I am on Fido in Vancouver,
(it also uses Roger's network) ,
Mine experience with the signal is awesome in my case, 95% of the time i am getting H, and 5% of the time it drops to 3G (mostly when I am doing nothing) but will quickly switch back to H when I start to use it again. I have not seen it with E yet.
I have tried it with WCDMA perfered, WCDMA only, now I am on GSM Auto(PRL) and it doesn't make any differences on internet speed according to my speedtest app, it's usually around 1Mb ~1.4Mb....occasionaly it drops to 600kb for one test.
The only problem I have is I am unable to achieve the 1% / hour battery drop rate some people are claiming even with the help with juicedefender and UV/AVS kernels......
Hi Folks ,
I really appreciate all of you for your feedback and advise.I hope that more peoples will share their experience here.One thing I would also like to share is that I am using home rom and did not go for bootloader unlocking and on my phone problem I have is with the cellular signal.my data signal is always on 3g as I am in city of Calgary.My son got his nexus one bootloader unlocked and installed ceynogen 5.06 rom installed I used his phone aslo for a day and only difference I noticed is that it shows "H" when u do browsing on data and otherwise is stay 3g.but with home it always show " 3G " sign and never to to "H" .but when you check details of connection it tell you that it is connected HSDPA.
If anyone else noticed the same? or anyone else getting H sign with home rom?
your views/experience regarding Home vs Ceynogen rom are also appreciated.
I am still looking for the actual benifit of having ceynogen rom over home?as I did not see any difference.
Thanks once again.
My Bell service sucks, but it's Bell so it normally sucks anyways.
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If anyone else noticed the same? or anyone else getting H sign with home rom?
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No, that's been discussed a lot. The stock rom never shows an H. And the custom roms only show an H when actually downloading data. Otherwise it always idles on 3G.
On your stock it does the same, idles on 3G, and switches to H for download. But there is no icon for it.
Why are you posting the same thing it two different forums?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=676479
Anyway, on the stock ROM the 3G icon doesn't change to H like it does on cyanogen and others. It still connects at the same speeds though.
yeh, I am posting in two different forums, as I was not sure where to go.Thanks for your feedback.Its helping me a lot.
Thanks once again.
Only other phones I have to compare to are my Curve 8900 and my HTC Magic. With ANY phone in my apartment there are areas with shoddy reception due to having concrete walls in an older building. To be honest with you my N1 has been the same, if not better than any of my other phones in this building. In the hall, it's inevitable that it will cut off. In my apartment I can get reception anywhere, which is more than I can say for my girlfriend's Samsung and some other friend's phones in the building. We all use Rogers, by the way. And I'm in Toronto.
Not that there was a whole lot of differences, if any, in manufacturing as time went on (aside from the whole dust under the screen issues), but.. when did you get your N1's?
Jim
Hi Folks,
I've been enjoying my Nexus S but I've had a few problems so far and I wanted to see if they were singular problems or more widespread, so if you don't mind indulging me?
Signal - I've been having all manner of fluctuation with the signal. My Wife's Desire Z, which is also on Orange, is showing a far better reception in all areas, both indoors and out. I've even had a few total drop-outs, where I've had no signal at all, even though my old N900 and the Missus' phone are still showing at least 2 bars.
Wi-Fi - I've found the Wi-Fi signal to be awful. Again, other devices in the household are showing full bars yet the Nexus is showing 1. It's so bad that if I sit next to the router to get full signal, if I turn the device to face away I drop down to 1 or 2 bars. This isn't normal, surely?
Camera - Everything's blurry. Even the faintest hint of movement from a subject and the whole image is a mass of blur. Which is annoying to say the least.
App Issue - This is an extension of the signal problem really. When I go into a game, say, Angry Birds or Squibble, when I come out of the game I have no signal, and it doesn't come back for about 4-5 minutes.
What are your views?
Cheers and Merry Christmas,
I have none of the issues you seem to have. Might want to get it replaced
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My only issue is my cell reception, but that's because T-Mobile sucks in my area.
Everything else is fine.
My WiFi signals do the same thing, but reception remains great. Are you actually losing connection speed or no? Because I checked and I'm not.
I don't have any of those issues. Only issue I have is that I still can't send picture messages to my friends on AT&T
Thanks for your responses people.
I don't think I'm losing speed with the wifi issue, l but I haven't checked if I'm honest (I've been up to my eyeballs in turkey ).
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Wifi seems pretty strong here, no complaints at all. Have yet to put in a similar though so can't comment on cellular signal. Camera wise, I think its the norm... any movement with these sensors screws the picture totally. If you pics are blurred when the subject is stationary, worry.
I did a still pic side by side comparison and for some reason the nexus s was significantly more blurry than the nexus one, both shots same object sitting still. Prob just a software bug as the nexus s camera is very good in general.
For cellular signal, other people reported the same weak performance with the nexus s. My question is, do you actually compare the dBm or just the bars? Cause each company displays bars on a different range, so the only way really is to compare dBm vs dBm on each device.
There have been reports of weak signal and dropped data connection though.
past 2 days, I'm having an issue w/my nexus The screen won't tilt sideways when txt messaging, fb, watching youtube, etc.. The problem is temporary but a hindrance..also got a dead battery charger. I'm not the type to return stuff but might need to, I just love my nexus and the screen quality..hopefully the replacement won't have any screen issues like some ppl have complained.
I seem to have issues with my back button being no-where near as sensitive or responsive as the other buttons...anyone else?
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I wondered about this too but I now think its just the way I'm hitting it as I'm nit used to it being where it is. Could that be it?
My wifi connection is poor as well depending on the type of router it seems
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There are a slew of issues with Gingerbread, of which the most frustrating to me are: ringtone and other alarm tones will randomly change; new photographs will disappear in the gallery; sometimes typing is still laggy/unresponsive.
I reported the disappearing photos to Google here: http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=13419 If anyone else is having this issue, please visit the link and star it to bring more attention to it.
In general, I'm disappointed these bugs exist.
With regards to Wifi, i found that the router was issuing 4 ip addresses to my phone via DHCP, and my phone was not getting good data streams, it kept cutting out. So i went to the router and set up static DHCP based on its mac address (you can set this up via LAN services on your router) This fixed my wifi problem
JD
I had the exact same issue with the back button. It was much less sensitive compared to the others and I had to click it quite hard to work. Its definitely a hardware mulfunction in a small percentage of phones. I ended up replacing the phone and now its fine.
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I seem to have issues with my back button being no-where near as sensitive or responsive as the other buttons...anyone else?
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Thanks for all the feedback people. It's been a great help. I've made a few changes so here's hoping I get some improvement.
If not it's going back to CPW!
Oh well, a day on and things still aren't improved.
Looks like its back to stock and back to the shop.
I'm wholly disappointed.
does nobody else think the vibrant have a weak wifi reception?. i have 2 and i think compared to all my buddies other phones it is pretty weak. stock or not. at work i can barely pickup 2 bars in my area if any at all, 3 for a short while if im lucky. while everybody else has 3 to 4 in same area. even the metro pcs huwaie phones can pickup where i cant. thats a shame.yes i have tried different modems. some work better than others but it still wasnt acceptable to me soooooooo, what i did was the same thing as the gps hardware fix but i did it to the wifi antenna. (atleast i think its the wifi) same copper tab on the other side. it seems to work better for me now. i can pickup and stay connected. so if anybody has the same feeling about wifi just give this a shot
Hi All-
I updated to the Android Pie Official release last night and this morning my WiFi range is now non existent. When I am in the same room as the router everything is perfect but I go in to a different room in my tiny apartment it can no longer connect. I am only like 25 feet from the router and it says signal is poor or can't connect at all. Never had this issue with Oreo.
Anyone else have this issue or any ideas to fix it? I never tried any of the P Beta releases because I didn't want issues like this...
Thanks in advance for your help!
(FYI I am on rooted stock Pie with Magisk)
PS- Yes I searched but I started a new thread because I only found 2 recurring issues that people discussed are throttling speed issues and other people saying wifi doesn't work entirely. I didn't find anyone discussing range issues...
I had a OnePlus 5. I bought the essential phone on the Prime day and even before using it, flashed Android P beta and now am on Pie official.
I have no idea about Oreo but the WiFi signal is really poor on the essential. My essential phone loses the 5ghz signal in the next room where my OP5 works perfectly fine.
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I had a OnePlus 5. I bought the essential phone on the Prime day and even before using it, flashed Android P beta and now am on Pie official.
I have no idea about Oreo but the WiFi signal is really poor on the essential. My essential phone loses the 5ghz signal in the next room where my OP5 works perfectly fine.
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I don't think it is just an "essential phone" issue it seems to be possibly a Android P issue, because I had the phone for a week or so on Oreo rooted with no wifi range issue.
I also was connected to a 5ghz network. Did connecting to 2.4ghz band work any better for you? I just noticed my issue while getting ready to leave for work this morning and didn't have time to test the 2.4ghz range
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I don't think it is just an "essential phone" issue it seems to be possibly a Android P issue, because I had the phone for a week or so on Oreo rooted with no wifi range issue.
I also was connected to a 5ghz network. Did connecting to 2.4ghz band work any better for you? I just noticed my issue while getting ready to leave for work this morning and didn't have time to test the 2.4ghz range
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The range on 2.4Ghz network is slightly better than 5ghz but still, it's nowhere near to my OP5.
I hope it's an Android P issue and not a hardware issue.
I have noticed the poor/weird signal. Both WiFi and mobile signal are not great. I am 6 feet from my WAP in the same room and have 3 bars as i type this.
I have a AmpliFi mesh network that works well but wonder if this phone is jumping on the 5ghz node and not the mothership.
Mobile signal in my SF flat is weak up front and stronger in the back. My HTC U11+ holds the weak signal where the PH-1 does not.
I got this phone on prime day(and 360 lens and case from Essential for really cheap) to use as a backup/hobby but considering returning phone and selling accessories.
It is not just the signal issue...I have gotten used to a larger phone and the U11+ feels great everytime I return to it. Alas, age.
I have had several times on Pie problems, but then I never tested this on Nougat when I received the phone, I just went straight into the Pie Update.
For me, several times, I click Wifi on and it shows connecting for the longest time sitting next to the router, then when it connectes it says no internet.
I've only played with the wifi a few times, and most of the time it gave me problems connecting.
I have other phone issues, so I've got a new phone replacement on the way, and I'll leave this on Nougat that it comes with and try to see if I can get an Oreo update and leave it on that, and see if it works out better.
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I had a OnePlus 5. I bought the essential phone on the Prime day and even before using it, flashed Android P beta and now am on Pie official.
I have no idea about Oreo but the WiFi signal is really poor on the essential. My essential phone loses the 5ghz signal in the next room where my OP5 works perfectly fine.
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I think it comes with oreo, does it not?
@hssxda I just received my phone from an online order with Nougat...
I was hoping it was coming with Oreo.
Hmm
I seriously thought this phone didn't support 5ghz until now, when I first set it up few days ago, my 5G network didn't show up at all. I felt weird that 'flagship' phone didn't support 5ghz, but didn't bother checking.
Oh well, 2.4 it is, at least downloading Pie over 2.4 was really fast where 5 wasn't even seen.
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@hssxda I just received my phone from an online order with Nougat...
I was hoping it was coming with Oreo.
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Tbh I don't recall what mine came with but I definitely updated to the July oreo before pie came out and my wifi was fine. I believe the Ota updates are incremental so you may be able to just update to oreo if you wish but I'm not positive
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Tbh I don't recall what mine came with but I dentek updated to the July oreo before pie came out and my wifi was fine. I believe the Ota updates are incremental so you may be able to just update to oreo if you wish but I'm not positive
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Nope, just Nougat to Pie is all there is...
I should just give into having some Pie to eat I guess! LOL
Isn't newer always suppose to be better... LMAO
Working fine here. 5ghz connects all the time when in range. Google WiFi mesh, and a sophos network at work. Signal and speed is fine.
Same here, no issues with 5Ghz at all. You might try factory resetting the phone, always fixes things for me.
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Same here, no issues with 5Ghz at all. You might try factory resetting the phone, always fixes things for me.
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that would be a huge PITA if I had to do that
I reported this to Google's issue tracker, if people are experiencing the same issue I encourage you to comment over there in order to ensure this is addressed.
https://issuetracker.google.com/issues/112496368
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I got this phone on prime day(and 360 lens and case from Essential for really cheap) to use as a backup/hobby but considering returning phone and selling accessories.
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same.
but at the same time, I have to remind myself that I only paid $250 for this...
The radios overall on this phone are the weakest radios I have ever seen in a flagship device, and I have owned to many! With that said, my issue was reverse, I had extremely low strength to no signal on 5ghz networks on Oreo June build, as well as weird throttling issues. Cell service was extremely bad as well.
With the Pie update, the phone is usable, including the 5Ghz WiFi network, but again, it is the weakest signal I have ever seen from my router. I have had this tested on a Note 8, Huawei Mate 10 Pro, HTC U12+ and Essential PH1. Hoping it's a software fix!
P.S. No amount of factory resetting saved me ...
I just got back from a cross-country road trip that I've taken many times before with many other devices, and while the PH-1 was a BIT weaker in a few spots it was acceptably good -- and not materially worse than the V20 that I was using just before this device (which, as phones go, is in the "good but not excellent" RF category.)
I find it acceptable -- WiFi is IMHO weaker than cell on this device, but it's not particularly bad.....
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I seriously thought this phone didn't support 5ghz until now, when I first set it up few days ago, my 5G network didn't show up at all. I felt weird that 'flagship' phone didn't support 5ghz, but didn't bother checking.
Oh well, 2.4 it is, at least downloading Pie over 2.4 was really fast where 5 wasn't even seen.
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I've wiped back to stock several times on this device, always notice my 5ghz takes a bit longer to show up on the initial setup for wifi. My 5ghz seems to get better speeds where I am normally setting up my phone, so i tend to wait for it...usually just an extra 20 seconds or something and it pops up
Sent a message to Essential customer support. Expecting a standard boilerplate response of "factory reset the phone" which doesn't apply in my case. Here's my story:
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I purchased a new Essential PH-1 and updated it to the latest release of Android Pie (9, build PPR.180610.091, baseband 2.0.c4-M2.0.5). I did the update to Android Pie beta immediately out of the box, with nothing installed, not even any user configured. It then updated to the Android 9 stable release.
The WiFi on this Essential PH-1 is very unstable on the 5 GHz band. It sporadically drops connection and reconnects. While this might seem like just a nuisance, it's a big problem when streaming videos. Sometimes when WiFi drops, the video resumes streaming from my mobile connection which incurs high charges. I don't always notice this since the video can look like a brief buffering pause when it switches over. It's also an issue when I play online multiplayer games, causing it to drop me out of the game.
This happens frequently on the 5GHz band (on average every 10-30 minutes, but varies a lot). The 2.4 GHz band is more stable but it still drops out on occasion. This looks like a weak antenna in the Essential, as I've done a WiFi scan using WiFi Analyzer app and see the 5GHz reception is extremely poor. My old Nexus 6 sees 8-10 5GHz stations in my condo, whereas the Essential sees 2 (including mine).
My reference point is the Nexus 6 which has no WiFi dropouts. It's rock solid and maintains connection "forever" (I never see it drop WiFi). My router is a Linksys WRT3200ACS with extended range antennas. It has very strong signal strength, I know that's not the issue since 5 other devices have no WiFi dropout issues.
I use a wifi hotspot nearby with my old s9 and s8 and note 3 but on my s10+ the hotspot doesnt even show up on the list unless i am standing like 5 meters from it.
Coming from the Pixel 3 XL, I feel spoiled have decent wifi reception with the S10+. I'm using Samsung's silicone case.
Not me. Working beautifully.
Its week like I'm in my living room near router and it's fine move couple meters away and basically struggles and switches to 4g it's pretty lame when my wifes Nokia 6.1 has solid wifi at the bottom of the garden I've tried resetting network setting but nothing helps hope they fix soon
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My s10+ only sees hotspots which are in very close proximity. Throughput is excellent for the ones it's able to see and connect to though.