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Dear Readers,
I am about to tell you my story of myself a current Galaxy Note user and the unfortunate episode when my phone had problems. I have been a long time user of xda, but a first time poster of this wonderful forum.
First of all I want to tell you I currently reside in Australia, Sydney and I am a Vodafone customer. I have been using this phone for about 6 months without any problems whatsoever, until a couple of weeks ago my phone started to inconsistently charge. At first I thought it was a cable issue, so I isolated the problem with a different cable and it didn't work. Fear and doubt crept into my mind for the next couple of days, if I should return the phone to Vodafone for repairs because as you may have guessed, my phone is rooted with a custom rom called, "AllianceROM_N7000_ICS_v2.1" with the wonderful "SpeedMod Kernel".
I searched through google and I found out that I wasn't the only person to have this problem with this charging issue. From further research I also found out that some people have claimed that sending a rooted phone into repairs will void your phones warranty, and some other people say that it won't void your warranty. Rather confused with this conflicting information, what other better way to confirm this issue than to call up Samsungs service centre. When I asked, the gentlemen on the other end just simply answered, "Yes".
So with this new information, I finally decided to unroot my phone and installed a stock official rom called N7000BDULR5_N7000BVAULR4_VAU. But before I did all this, from further research through XDA's forums I found out that I needed to reset my Binary count with Triangle Away by Chainfire. But with the issue of the phone not charging properly, it did not help with the issue of unrooting the phone, because the battery was constantly flat. After painstaking hours I finally unrooted my phone.
As I came home after handing my phone into Vodafone, a thought crept into my mind. Will they void my warranty, if I did not have the bloatware in which Vodafone has pre-installed into the phone? Because the stock rom in which I installed did not carry the bloatware.
Through the following week of praying that they will not void my warranty because of this issue, I got a message from Vodafone to pick up my phone. I called Vodafone customer repair centre and they told me that they have fixed the issue by replacing the micro usb connector which the pins was dislodged and also the UNIT-SUB PBA- which is the motherboard. Vodafone told me that this is a rare case in which the both of these hardware issues occur in the Galaxy note. Phew..
As of right now I am charging my phone without any problems so far. I will keep you guys updated if I have any other further issues with the repairs done on my phone.
I'm in Malaysia and I had the similar problem with you as well.
Initially I sent in my phone with the stock ROM but I forgot to reset the binary count and the 3rd party service center voided my warranty.
I took back my phone and installed "triangle away" by chainfire which reset my custom binary count and this time I sent it in to Samsung for a warranty claim and after the next day. They called me to collect my phone and my mother board + micro usb was replaced.
I did a little research myself and I've came to this conclusion and incompatible external battery packs messed up the system as I never had an issue with my phone charging till I bought myself a cheap external batter pack charger which then i guess messed up my board.
conclusion for me:
invest in a proper external batter pack which is compatible with the N7000 battery.
Congrats on getting your phone repaired without getting caught. Same thing had happened to me when I gave my phone to ssc. I had unrooted and used triangle away but unfortunately forgot to uninstall it. My phone was repaired and it still had triangle away in it. I guess they don't look into the phone that closely.
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without getting caught.
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the hardware is faulty, the pins don't last, apparently it's even a known issue at Samsung.. This repair has nothing to do with firmware. The phone boots, it runs, it can have different firmwares flashed to it, the issue is purely a hardware issue and so the warranty should cover the repair even with the custom binary... i dont like the loophole use by the warranty center when, as with this guy, the user clearly hasn't damaged the device... That would just be wrong.
Paranoid V. 5 | Hydracore 4.3 OC
GT-N7000
TopOfNewYork said:
the hardware is faulty, the pins don't last, apparently it's even a known issue at Samsung.. This repair has nothing to do with firmware. The phone boots, it runs, it can have different firmwares flashed to it, the issue is purely a hardware issue and so the warranty should cover the repair even with the custom binary... i dont like the loophole use by the warranty center when, as with this guy, the user clearly hasn't damaged the device... That would just be wrong.
Paranoid V. 5 | Hydracore 4.3 OC
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Dear Mr TopOfNewYork,
You maybe correct about the correlation with software Vs hardware issue that may render your phone having problems. But no legal terms and conditions will release the manufacturer of any legal liabilities with the products being offered to the public. (In Australia it is called the Australian Consumer Law 2010, Please check with your local countries consumer protectionism law.)
On another note, the phone has a random automatic reboot issue at random times, and as of now wont even boot to Touchwiz UI. The only way I can use the phone is to directly charge the phone, while using it. I have had the phone for two days from the date of it was returned to me, and I have complained (in a logical, non violent yelling manner) to Vodafone and they have agreed to send me a new Samsung Galaxy S3 16gb White.
I am absolutely satisfied to receive a new phone, and will update the situation about the new phone on the S3 forum.
Thank you for reading and have a happy and prosperous year.
Glad to know you got your problem solved.
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I sent my phone to samsung while it was still rooted and had a custom rom on it, they mustnt even check if its a hardware fault cause i had it back within 5 days with a new screen.
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I sent my phone to samsung while it was still rooted and had a custom rom on it, they mustnt even check if its a hardware fault cause i had it back within 5 days with a new screen.
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Well I just sent my Note 2 in and it took the service center 2 weeks to enter my phone...during that time Samsung cancelled my claim because the service centre in Quebec didn't enter it in time.
I called Samsung and they called the center and set them straight and now I just got a reply that my phone, while rooted, has never had a custom ROM on it and never had anything but stock...I rooted it only to kill the rogers bloatware that I could not uninstall.
I just got a reply and they told me the repair will cost $672 to repair the screen due to it being rooted....wtf
Reason it was sent in was in woke up, unplugged my phone from charging and noticed a stuck red dead pixel on the screen...wasn't there the night before....so how does root on a stock phone cause an hardware issue....time to call and complain to Samsung.
This is unreal....
I too had the problem! First I thought it was lint, etc, so I prodded etc. It would charge for5 min then stop.
In the end I got a new daughter board for£10 with the USB socket, new mix and antenna. Took less than ten mins to fit. It's been like new since.
I've the same issue on my Kindle HD, but that's another tale........
Box 13.
I unrooted my phone before giving it to the "Samsung" repair shop, which in my town is just a dodgy phone shop with a big Samsung sticker on the window. I got it back the next day with an untested bad ROM update so the keyboard just typed nonsense.
In the end I spent ages fixing the damage they caused and never got to the bottom of the original issue.
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Never had to warranty repair any of my Samsung devices until now...hope I never have to again as they suck!
Respect lost.
I had a rooted N7000 go into Samsung service with a hardware & a software issue & both issues were sorted under warranty for free & no mention of it being rooted, (it came back unrooted).
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I had unrooted device with blue hotpixel, these dumbasses first tear it down, then realized the receipt is not enough for proof so they want an invoice from seller stating where he got phones from. And because seller was a retard he didn't send me it in time, they reassembled the phone and sent it back (leaving a hair between frame and screen - proves that it was disassembled) I wonder for what they got grade A from Samsung...
From the same private service center, once they tried to prove that non-rooted and untouched phone was flashed (it was aftermath of failed Kies/Odin update), intervention in Samsung Poland helped, they sent a new phone.
In any case of imbeciles at service senter, contact Samsung, their people usually have more knowledge and are willing to help
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I had unrooted device with blue hotpixel, these dumbasses first tear it down, then realized the receipt is not enough for proof so they want an invoice from seller stating where he got phones from. And because seller was a retard he didn't send me it in time, they reassembled the phone and sent it back (leaving a hair between frame and screen - proves that it was disassembled) I wonder for what they got grade A from Samsung...
From the same private service center, once they tried to prove that non-rooted and untouched phone was flashed (it was aftermath of failed Kies/Odin update), intervention in Samsung Poland helped, they sent a new phone.
In any case of imbeciles at service senter, contact Samsung, their people usually have more knowledge and are willing to help
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Phones are under warranty by the date of manufactur ... you don't need reciepts or anything, it doesn't matter if its been sold to ten different people with no reciepts its still under Samsung Warranty.
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Unfortunately not in Poland, they still require at least receipt, but new internal procedures of service center require shop's invoice, especially since they see phone was bought in service/second hand shop (still it was brand new, untouched etc.), maybe they're just too dum dum to handle their internal stuff or are afraid it was serviced somewhere else, I must speak with Sammy about this
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Unfortunately not in Poland .........
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Why Samsung would tell you that I have no idea.
Samsung here in Canada asked for a copy of my receipt to be faxed within 5 days or the claim would be void.
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I unrooted my phone before giving it to the "Samsung" repair shop, which in my town is just a dodgy phone shop with a big Samsung sticker on the window.
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Personally, I would strongly suggest to find authorised local service centres from the Samsung website of one's respective country/region. Alternatively, one could either call or send an e-mail to the customer support of one's respective country/region to enquire about the details of authorised local service centres.
For illustrative purpose, I would find the Samsung website for my country/region from, http://www.samsung.com/uk/function/ipredirection/ipredirectionLocalList.do, and I would then proceed to find authorised local service centres by using the Find Service Locations found under the Support menu.
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Samsung here in Canada asked for a copy of my receipt to be faxed within 5 days or the claim would be void.
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OK, I've been looking at a few countries warranty wording & yes it does say "Original purchase reciept" required for repairs so strange as it sounds they abide by different rules depending where you live.
I've not been asked for anything other than my personal details & address for collection. Yes that's right Samsung (I'm in UK) arrange to collect the phone & then deliver it back afterwards without any proof of purchase or reciepts. I have friends who have done the same & several of these phones including mine were bought secondhand but still in warranty (2yrs on some phones).
I want to share my warranty claim experience too (indonesia):
1. Galaxy S3, broken camera hardware. Clear binary, Flashed stock JB, sent to SSC. Asked for original purchase receipt, didn't have it. So i asked her to check the phone by serial number, warranty granted, fixed in 3 days and whooaa got extra 3 month warranty. I bought it when S3 launching event at June 12, extended to 31 sept 2013
2. Broke my Galaxy Nexus usb ports pin so usb cord can't plug properly and sometimes not detected in PC. I was too lazy to flash stock.. So with unlocked bootloader & Paranoid Android rom installed i went to same SSC, haha asked again for receipt and i didn't have it also. Granted, and got it fixed less than 1 hour
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Hello, I'm aware Samsung's Customer Service UK is awful from people in the Galaxy S2 forums, On Thursday I sent away my Galaxy i9300 (undamaged) to Samsung's service centre (I believe it was regenersis contracted by Samsung) The original fault on my phone was a Charging problem, it would stop charging (stuck at a percentage) and took 6+ hours to charge fully. Samsung sent me a freepost jiffy bag and asked my to send away the battery with my S3 as well so i put the battery in the bay with the phone and sent it away still no damage from this point and still switched on and functioned perfect accept the charging problem.
I then received a letter in the post claiming they couldn't repair the phone because it was out of Manufacturers warranty because of physical damage and wanted 35.10GBP for repairs to the Battery terminals on the phone, but I refused to pay and they sent my S3 back to me. But to my surprise I go to put the battery in the phone and I see that on of the pins have been bent and twisted which was not the condition I sent it off in. I phoned Samsung yet again about this and denied responsibility again and said the fully trust what the engineers are saying. I phoned the Repair Centre and they said they inspect the phone before they do any repairs to it and the picture show the pin was bent and damaged. (I believe the engineer damaged it and then took the pictures)
What can I do? Samsung just send me in an infinite loop to talk to the Repair centre then the Repair Centre just tell me to talk to Samsung. They are accepting no responsibility. How can I take this any further?
I'm in the UK.
Thank you.
If you are on contract the network should sort this for you.
sue them.
and don't ask questions in General
deakodude said:
If you are on contract the network should sort this for you.
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I bought this from buymobilephones.net on a contract with T-mobile. But they aren't to blame, it's Samsung's Bad Customer service. Can I complain to them?
Unless you can prove them wrong, you're sh*t out of luck, I'm afraid. Next time you're going to debs something in, take a photo of it (with timestamp) what it looks like before you send it in so you have counter proof.
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Unless you can prove them wrong, you're sh*t out of luck, I'm afraid. Next time you're going to debs something in, take a photo of it (with timestamp) what it looks like before you send it in so you have counter proof.
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Yes, But it's the first time i've ever had to send any Samsung Device to Service, ever. Never expected for some hooligan Engineer to be damaging my phone. Next time I will always photograph it head to toe. But have I exhausted my options with this? Why would they damage my phone?
you can still file a complaint
Jekle_Ace said:
Yes, But it's the first time i've ever had to send any Samsung Device to Service, ever. Never expected for some hooligan Engineer to be damaging my phone. Next time I will always photograph it head to toe. But have I exhausted my options with this? Why would they damage my phone?
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The engineer damaged or and does not want to take responsibility so puts the blame on you.
I suggest you file a complaint or sue them in civil court.
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you can still file a complaint
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Samsung don't care. Apple would of been an easier choice, there Customer Service is impeccable. Just puts a sour taste in your mouth about who you purchase your next phone from?
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Well, customer care is also something you have to pay for. Hopefully I won´t have to have my phone repaired.
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Jekle_Ace said:
Hello, I'm aware Samsung's Customer Service UK is awful from people in the Galaxy S2 forums, On Thursday I sent away my Galaxy i9300 (undamaged) to Samsung's service centre (I believe it was regenersis contracted by Samsung) The original fault on my phone was a Charging problem, it would stop charging (stuck at a percentage) and took 6+ hours to charge fully. Samsung sent me a freepost jiffy bag and asked my to send away the battery with my S3 as well so i put the battery in the bay with the phone and sent it away still no damage from this point and still switched on and functioned perfect accept the charging problem.
I then received a letter in the post claiming they couldn't repair the phone because it was out of Manufacturers warranty because of physical damage and wanted 35.10GBP for repairs to the Battery terminals on the phone, but I refused to pay and they sent my S3 back to me. But to my surprise I go to put the battery in the phone and I see that on of the pins have been bent and twisted which was not the condition I sent it off in. I phoned Samsung yet again about this and denied responsibility again and said the fully trust what the engineers are saying. I phoned the Repair Centre and they said they inspect the phone before they do any repairs to it and the picture show the pin was bent and damaged. (I believe the engineer damaged it and then took the pictures)
What can I do? Samsung just send me in an infinite loop to talk to the Repair centre then the Repair Centre just tell me to talk to Samsung. They are accepting no responsibility. How can I take this any further?
I'm in the UK.
Thank you.
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Send it to http://www.freesamsungrepairs.com in Bicester. Ask for Dean and they'll take care of you.
Not only in UK Or USA, Samsung has horrible service and I recently got to taste that for an Unbranded I9300 here in India.
The bezel color came off suddenly and it was a few months old. Reported back to CEO desk, where they took 15 days in delaying and giving me 1 day more needed clauses.
Then I finally got back a call from them telling me , your handset has just crossed 6 months and you cant get the bezel changed FOC. I needed to pay Rs.7000 for that.
I denied, so in vindictive nature, they returned me the phone with my speakers changed, and then the speakers were fully broken.
Again reported back to CEO desk, where my handset was again taken back at a diff service center and returned back yesterday with speakers changed.
Long Live SHAMESUNG .
This would probably be my last product, as this company just sells products but doesnt provide service to customers.
Add Canada to the list.
Months ago I sent my phone in during warranty within the first year of purchase because the USB charging port was screwed up naturally (what a nightmare). This was a terrible design, and if I knew Id need a repair after purchase I would not of purchased the phone. I got it back from repair then and the USB port went again within 4 months, this time out of warranty I blew a gasket because it should never of broke the first time, and for it to break again was that the fault of the repair shop or the design of the actual phone using the USB port? Anyways... This was my second time sending it in for the USB port then I recieved it back damaged. Before I sent it in the second time for the USB issue, I made it clear with Samsung, if it is the exact same problem again, I want another phone, I am not going to replace this part every few months, they somewhat agreed to assess my phone. I explained I didnt want it repaired by the same shop, they agreed and I also made clear with them I wanted them personally to do the work at their location to find out if this is some sort of ongoing problem with the phone. I did not want another third party to just keep replacing the parts in the phone, if something breaks twice on its own, there is a reason with the design. Samsung made me believe that it was going to be dealt with the best way possible, and even my Phone Carrier was made aware of this and totally felt the phone was going to be assessed by Samsung and not just fixed again by a same third party company. My carrier has been informed of the nightmares I've been going through with all of this.
So as the story goes...
Got my phone back from repair last week. Went to post office picked it up, opened up the package anxious to get back on my phone and make sure it works, so I open the package before leaving the post office parking lot, and when I opened it, it doesn't even look like my phone, but it is!! Phone looked terrible marked up and abused looking. I immediatly opened the work order / paper inside and found a different third party company did the repair again (same parts as the first time) and that it was "authorized". On the paper it declares the same damage of my phone as I had recieved it from them, not as I sent it though!!! (I properly wrapped it in bubbled wrap bigtime, then put it in a bigger box packed with paper, there was no way any damage could be done to it whatsoever).
On the work order paper I recieved it claims I must call the third party company (not Samsung) within 24hrs to dispute any issues. At that very moment I was so pissed, not only was my phone a disgrace, but I suddenly had to call a third party? What the hell?? I sent it to Samsung!!!!
I got on the phone with Samsung immediatly in the parking lot explaining to Samsung I was disgusted and wanted something done about my phone immediatly. I told them I did not want to go home from the post office without mailing them the phone back. They asked me if I called the third party shop, I said "No! I didnt send them my phone, I sent Samsung my phone! I am not going to get into a squabble or hold anyone else but Samsung responsible for this issue!" They understood me well... They told me to go home with the phone and take photos and send them to their ECR department, and they would have a response within 48hrs. So I did...
Went home took photos of the phone and sent them to Samsung ECR department, 24hrs later I confirmed by calling them that they received the photos and that it was being worked on. They claimed they couldnt find the photos, so I forwarded them the same email I sent with photos attached for a second time. (Which they did recieve in my records the first time they were sent). They told me they needed a day or so... So I called them the next day, told me to call again in another day, called them the next day, waited 25mins on hold then they come on and tell me I have to wait another 4 days because it was a friday of a long weekend.... Maddening!!! Here I am a company owner with no smartphone being put off more and more... I need my phone!!! It is a big part of my day to day life with so much going on.
So I wait 4 days, call them mid day of the business day. They tell me they escalated things to a higher level (whichever/whoever that is) and I must call them in another 24-48hrs after they talk to the repair department... I said "What the hell??? You had last week to do all of this, why is this not already done???" ... Samsung ECR replied "Oh sorry sir I will email them right now and get a report on this phone repair from the repair shop"... So he sent an email request and the third party company replied back "The phone was damaged when we recieved it, we sent it to the consumer fixed the way we recieved it." So then I got upset, I requested to have this investigated further by someone senior because I am pissed off, and fully informed them my carrier was following up with me on how this issue is resolved for their own records.
They told me to call them again in another 24-48hrs. That is where I am at now.
I am disgraced to be treated this way, I have $6000 worth of Samsung Electronics never had a problem with any of it, and this happens with 1 item. If I had any idea how their customer support / warranty dept and ECR was, I would of likely reconsidered my purchases, but I just loved my phone when it worked .
ECR department is under staffed taking forever on hold, and there should definately be a "higher up" that someone can contact if ECR is mismanaged or not doing things right. When I asked to talk to someone higher up, they said "There is noone you can talk to higher up".
$700 Samsung Phone USB Port Breaks 9 Months after Purchase.
$700 Samsung Phone has same USB Port Issues Repaired TWICE (last time 4 months after repair)
$700 Samsung Phone gets sent back from repair to consumer unidentifyable. I would not of recognized it as my phone.
5 Hours on the phone minimum fighting for phone with Samsung. Loss of time when I should of been working too!
$700 Samsung Phone Owner Left in the dark, disgusted, and pissed off.
My last words to Samsung was they better straighten this mess up within 48hrs or I am going to go purchase a new phone, disgusted with this rollercoaster ride they have taken me on for something they are liable of in the first place. My carrier is being fully informed of this terrible ordeal as it unfolds at their main office and kept in their records.
Lets face it, little people like us don't threaten a businesses existence.
I once got a D-Link wifi dongle, the range was a complete and utter lie, (was 1/4th what they were claiming), additionally I was dealing with their slow support. By the end of it, it exceeded the two weeks warranty. Chinese companies are far more reliable than crappy western ones.
In the 15 Years I've been in business dealing with thousands of businesses, I've never in my life dealt with an unorganized incompetent mess such as the Samsung ECR department, and they tell me there is nobody higher up that oversees their work. I requested multiple times to deal with someone of a higher level than ecr and was refused. I had a complaint about the Canadian ECR Department and their management and way of dealing with clients.
The people I dealt with in Canada, seemed like gangsters, I was disgusted in their business practise.
My last resort will likely be filing in small claims court, I have exhausted all reasonable methods.
I loved their products but their problems over the past few months dealing with their customer care have made me hate them.
I live in the UK and have had to use samsung warranty twice, on both occasions my phone was unlocked and rooted and both times they fixed my phone and returned them to me, one with a new motherboard SGS3 and the other a Samsung Nexus S which they returned fixed and with the bootloader unlocked. I suppose it all depends on your local warranty centre. It didn't happen over night but I understood that they didn't just have my phone to repair.
My S4 is still under its warranty period. Though I cracked the glass a few months ago. The digitizer was unharmed so I opted to order a glass only replacement and fix it myself. There are plenty of videos that demo the removal of the glass from the glass with a hair dryer etc.
I recently went into an AT&T warranty center about an unrelated issue and they agreed to provide a replacement device. The store rep indicated they were currently out of stock my my model but offered to have one ordered and sent directly to me. I would then need to send my device back in a package provided by AT&T.
Its important to note that I did not discuss or disclose the fact that I replaced the glass on the device myself with the store rep. My concern is based on the policy of returning your device to the warranty center through the mail. You are agreeing to purchasing the replacement refurbished device at full price ($579) if your returned device is deemed to have physical damage once they receive it back from you.
Has anyone had luck with a similar scenario?
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You can send it in. I have done so many warranty replacements with AT&T. On my S4 I had a small chip on the top corner where you can hardly put your nail inside the chip. They where treating me that they will possibly charge me for the full retail price of the phone. If the rep agreed to change the device for you, then no matter if you mail the device in they won't charge you because they inspected the device already right then. If the rep saw a cracked screen or physical damage they will deny it or charge you. There is no way they can find out you changed the screen due to you can always say Samsung fixed it for you but then again they won't question you since they won't take the glass apart and check if you swapped it out.
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There u have it folks!
I'm SPEECHLESS!!!! Walked in to a NYC Samsung repair center today, with a cracked glass on my back panel.
No -- I understand that I've voided the warranty by tripping knox, but to refuse a to-be-paid, out-of-warranty glass replacement because I have my phone rooted and their "hardware tests are failing" and that's the Samsung policy?????
Beyond outrageous.
F U SAMSUNG!
I will still stick to you for now because it's the best handset and I'll probably just buy a replacement but -- F U!!! big time!
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There u have it folks!
I'm SPEECHLESS!!!! Walked in to a NYC Samsung repair center today, with a cracked glass on my back panel.
No -- I understand that I've voided the warranty by tripping knox, but to refuse a to-be-paid, out-of-warranty glass replacement because I have my phone rooted and their "hardware tests are failing" and that's the Samsung policy?????
Beyond outrageous.
F U SAMSUNG!
I will still stick to you for now because it's the best handset and I'll probably just buy a replacement but -- F U!!! big time!
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Wow - really? That sounds like someone has misinterpreted the policy. It's an out of warranty job that should be reasonably charged and that's that - what has knox got to do with anything? Even if the Knox flag wasn't tripped it would still be an out of warranty job. I'd complain to the store manager and probably to Samsung's social media contacts as well because that just doesn't sound right.
Knox cannot affect any repair, paid or not. USA has a law same as the EU about having the right to modify your own phone.
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I'd complain to the store manager and probably to Samsung's social media contacts
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This came from the store manager -- and trust me, I made my best effort to get all the same points across. The exact wording was this: "as an Authorized Samsung Repair Center, we're obligated to perform a series of hardware tests before returning the phone to the customer. Our hardware tests started failing right away because you have a tripped KNOX counter, so we couldn't proceed with the repair. It's the Samsung policy". Period. I guess their test #1 is, if Knox counter is greater than 0, FAIL. Maybe I should talk to a lawyer and see if I can somehow claim that Samsung wrongfully exposes me to a health hazard (being cut by broken glass) by refusing the repair under a made-up pretext.
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This came from the store manager -- and trust me, I made my best effort to get all the same points across. The exact wording was this: "as an Authorized Samsung Repair Center, we're obligated to perform a series of hardware tests before returning the phone to the customer. Our hardware tests started failing right away because you have a tripped KNOX counter, so we couldn't proceed with the repair. It's the Samsung policy". Period. I guess their test #1 is, if Knox counter is greater than 0, FAIL. Maybe I should talk to a lawyer and see if I can somehow claim that Samsung wrongfully exposes me to a health hazard (being cut by broken glass) by refusing the repair under a made-up pretext.
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Sounds like the manager is an idiot tbh.
His explanation makes no sense whatsoever.
The whole Knox status voids warranty in the States is crap but even that is irrelevant.
I'd make a noise on their twitter, Instagram, Facebook, etc and probably give their customer service line a call as well (assuming they have one there?) as this manager's stance just doesn't make any sense
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They are just covering their assess. It's failing a test they perform to make sure everything is in working order. So what happens when they repair the screen and something is not working properly, they will be on the hook to fix it. That being said I don't understand why they can't say if any other problems are there you will have to pay for the fix.
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Today I flashed stock recovery, stock kernel, stock ROM, did a factory reset and went back to the same center. I wanted to ask them to retry the same hardware tests again to see if maybe they succeed this time, with all software being stock. They obviously recognized me from the day before, checked the KNOX counter and just reiterated what I had suspected from the outset; that's it's not really about any "hardware test failing", but a straightforward policy. If KNOX is tripped, don't touch the phone for any reason. The manager said, "we have to guarantee any repair work for 90 days. If KNOX is tripped, we can't do that." They told me to try my luck with their main corporate office in Dallas. I guess I'll give it a shot.
Samsung REFUSES a Paid, Out-of-warranty Glass Replacement CITING TRIPPED KNOX...
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Beyond outrageous.
F U SAMSUNG!
I will still stick to you for now because it's the best handset and I'll probably just buy a replacement but -- F U!!! big time!
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Why would they change their policy if people just go out and buy a replacement ? They win, they now have two sales instead of one.
Seems redundant & contradictory being 'outraged' and then to open your wallet and give them more cash.
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Knox cannot affect any repair, paid or not. USA has a law same as the EU about having the right to modify your own phone.
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Not sure where your getting EU info from but it's incorrect. They still void your hardware warranty and can refuse repairs / service of any description in the EU if your Knox efuse has been tripped.
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I will have to find it. Modifying your phone is a legal right in the UK same as usa. If your modification is the cause of the issue they can charge but if unrelated they can't and the warranty remains.
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Why would they change their policy if people just go out and buy a replacement ? They win, they now have two sales instead of one.
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Nah, come on, I am sure the aim of this policy was not to squeeze the last penny out of their bottom line. it's a major international conglomerate! They sell millions of appliances in every country of the world! This policy literally came out of the mouth of some lazy bureaucrat in charge of handset service, who basically took a quick shortcut and called it a day instead of thinking through the many different possibilities! Hey, to me being out of a few hundred bucks is not the end of the world either. But it's just so WRONG on so many levels! It sends a BAD message about Android, and a BAD message about Samsung! This was not meant to be an Apple shop! I fell in love with this phone -- I switched from HTC One, and I EVEN switched from ATT to TMobile just so I can have unlocked bootloader and modify to my heart's content! And now they're gonna give me this nonsense about tripped KNOX when my issue is broken glass?? BAD, WRONG, STUPID policy! Gosh, I wish I could get this message to a higher level executive rather than customer service.
Anyway, I called the main Dallas headquarters, told them about tripped KNOX and my experience at the NYC center, and the rep told me to send it in to their main service center anyway and see what happens. He wouldn't say if tripped KNOX would be a deal breaker or not. He said generally tripped KNOX is a big deal, but they have more sophisticated equipment than the regional centers typically, they'll examine the phone, see "how" Knox was tripped and take it from there. Sending it in today and going to be without a phone for the next week or so. Hoping for common sense to prevail..
Common sense? Come on, you know that has no place in here...
Personally I have never understood how a software issue could be used to deny a warranty or repair claim on something like a shattered screen. I mean seriously, I now have root access, how did that make my screen crack? Now if my radio or something went wonky I could understand. But a broken screen???
May I suggest buying a replacement glass and making the fix yourself ? I did this myself 3 times on my Z3c and it's actually very easy to do.
This phone isn't really the Z3...
True, but the process should be the same. Heat it up with a hairdryer, remove and then install the new back cover which already has the adhesive on it.
You can watch a tutorial here : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5RD44M4J-Rk
And for replacement parts I used this website http://www.witrigs.com/replacements-for-samsung-galaxy-s6-edge
If you don't feel confident about doing this yourself you can go to any phone service and they will do it for you on the spot for a small charge of course.
Should not cost you more than 30$, I bet Samsung will charge a lot more (that is if they agree to repair it).
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And for replacement parts I used this website
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Wow! Unbelievable! Thank you so much for the reference! The phone feels so solidly built that I didn't even think of researching this because I thought messing with it by hand is totally out of the question! I have it currently shipped to Dallas service center, but if rejected, I will definitely try this! :good:
Update: phone was rejected by the Samsung main service center. "BER", "beyond economic repair". Pathetic.
I've ordered the replacement glass on ebay! Looking forward to making the repair myself! Thanks @kind3r!
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9/9/2015 6:13 PM-PBA Inspection: The unit has left the technician. SOLUTION: BER
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Device rooted/Knox warranty failure
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9/9/2015 7:41 AM-Jennifer Bastardo: Accessory: sim card tray
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9/9/2015 7:41 AM-Jennifer Bastardo: The unit has been received. Pack Condition: Fair Packaging (Box & Cushion)
Wth, Bastard..o
Good luck with the DIY repair, please let us know how it turns out.
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Yeah, figures ...
What I don't understand is why ... the warranty is void anyway and it will be void the next time you turn in your phone anyway.
Perhaps they don't want to assume responsibility for damages that their technicians may do during this repair.
Good luck with your repair, I suggest using some guitar picks so you don't risk scratching the frame.
Also be careful with the broken glass as it may shatter.
That's interesting. Cracked my screen, sent it in for repair and they fixed it even with a tripped Knox counter. But that service center is a douche for doing that. And it sucks that Samsung has one of the best hardware in many expects so sometimes just saying I'm done with Samsung just may not seem like an options if you want top of the line android.
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Hey guys! My baby looks brand new again! Check out a pic! (I put the broken glass in the packaging in which the replacement arrived).
Ended up paying $17 for the glass on ebay and repairing myself. Come to think of it, having rooted my phone I walked away with a much better deal! lol Thanks again to all who stepped forward with advice!
Hey guys, I'm in Europe and I have a question.
Back at the end of January, my phone started having a bright horizontal line that would run from top to bottom of the screen. And this would come and go. After a couple weeks, I realized that vibration (whether from the phone itself or the surface it was on) as well as applying pressure to the top right side of the screen or face would cause this to come and go. I even figured out I could shake it and have this happen. So something was loose. I chatted with samsung germany, and even after explaining this to them, they still had me factory reset the phone, which I did. That didn't work, so they wanted me to send it in. It took me a couple weeks to find a replacement phone, but I did and I sent my S7 Edge to Samsungs service center two Fridays ago.
They just sent me an e-mail telling me that it isn't covered by warranty because this was caused by rooting the phone. This is clearly a hardware issue. Furthermore, I thought in Europe it didn't matter if you rooted your phone. I've only ever had to send in my LG G4 for warranty, and they had no problem with it being rooted. What gives? What are my rights?
I feel like deciding never to buy a Samsung product again, and I'm in the market for a new tablet. So on a related note, any better tablets out there?
shiboby said:
Hey guys, I'm in Europe and I have a question.
Back at the end of January, my phone started having a bright horizontal line that would run from top to bottom of the screen. And this would come and go. After a couple weeks, I realized that vibration (whether from the phone itself or the surface it was on) as well as applying pressure to the top right side of the screen or face would cause this to come and go. I even figured out I could shake it and have this happen. So something was loose. I chatted with samsung germany, and even after explaining this to them, they still had me factory reset the phone, which I did. That didn't work, so they wanted me to send it in. It took me a couple weeks to find a replacement phone, but I did and I sent my S7 Edge to Samsungs service center two Fridays ago.
They just sent me an e-mail telling me that it isn't covered by warranty because this was caused by rooting the phone. This is clearly a hardware issue. Furthermore, I thought in Europe it didn't matter if you rooted your phone. I've only ever had to send in my LG G4 for warranty, and they had no problem with it being rooted. What gives? What are my rights?
I feel like deciding never to buy a Samsung product again, and I'm in the market for a new tablet. So on a related note, any better tablets out there?
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Rooting a Samsung phone has always voided the warranty. Some countries strictly enforce this other do not.
If it was a motherboard problem, the service centre would not have noticed the rooting flag and replaced the hardware with no questions asked. But since your problem involved the screen not the motherboard, service centres have the option of enforcing the warranty at their discretion.
You can either ask for the phone back and use it as is or pay for the repair.
Any rooted phone voids any warranty the manufacturer carries.
When you root your phone, you get these messages that pop up telling you that if you continue, you will probably void your warranty.
They put those warnings there to let you know before you start.
I know my replies can be long, but would rather give too much info, than not enough.
In Europe, your statutory warranty cannot be refused just because of the phone being rooted. That warranty, however, is with the business that sold you the phone, not with Samsung directly. Maybe try and go back to the seller (though you may have to argue your case to make them comply with their legal obligations!).
I'm from Portugal.
My phone is rooted I had to send it to service for repair and had zero problems.
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In Europe, your statutory warranty cannot be refused just because of the phone being rooted. That warranty, however, is with the business that sold you the phone, not with Samsung directly. Maybe try and go back to the seller (though you may have to argue your case to make them comply with their legal obligations!).
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so I would have to deal with Amazon Germany? That is a freightening thought, since they just had so many mess ups at the end of last summer that I actually cancelled my membership.
Do you have any law or other thing I could point to that would show them they have to replace the phone?