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Did I overestimate the Tegra2?

So far, everything seems to work pretty well. No force closes, the few games I have tried look great, everything is nice and smooth for the most part.
But god dammit, I just wanted one thing. ONE THING. To be able to play scene release 720p HD Tv shows, when I'm on the train every day, without having to re-encode. For years, there has been almost no solution to this. I consider it nothing short of a miracle that I can play the lower quality xvid rips on my Evo.
There are always other players like Archos that just play this stuff right out of the box. But I always wished that something I would carry anyway would play it, like my phone or tablet.
I downloaded every media player I could get a hold of with good reviews. Rock Player, VPlayer, qqplayer, arcmedia, mVideoplayer. No success. The best I could get was sound with choppy/lagging video, in Rock Player.
I know there are alternatives, but like I said, for this to be a feature on something I would be carrying on an every day basis for multipurpose use, instead of a dedicated media player is top feature to me.
I'm just trying to figure out if there is any hope of this eventually working on the current slew of Honeycomb Tablets with app optimization, or if the processor just can't handle it. Anyone have decent/extensive knowledge on that subject?

MichaelWestin said:
So far, everything seems to work pretty well. No force closes, the few games I have tried look great, everything is nice and smooth for the most part.
But god dammit, I just wanted one thing. ONE THING. To be able to play scene release 720p HD Tv shows, when I'm on the train every day, without having to re-encode. For years, there has been almost no solution to this. I consider it nothing short of a miracle that I can play the lower quality xvid rips on my Evo.
There are always other players like Archos that just play this stuff right out of the box. But I always wished that something I would carry anyway would play it, like my phone or tablet.
I downloaded every media player I could get a hold of with good reviews. Rock Player, VPlayer, qqplayer, arcmedia, mVideoplayer. No success. The best I could get was sound with choppy/lagging video, in Rock Player.
I know there are alternatives, but like I said, for this to be a feature on something I would be carrying on an every day basis for multipurpose use, instead of a dedicated media player is top feature to me.
I'm just trying to figure out if there is any hope of this eventually working on the current slew of Honeycomb Tablets with app optimization, or if the processor just can't handle it. Anyone have decent/extensive knowledge on that subject?
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The hardware is capable of it. You just need to stop buying devices that don't hardware accelerate mkv files. You need to look for something with divx certification. My epic4g plays ridiculously high bitrate 720P mkv files FLAWLESSLY, because Samsung went the extra mile and got hardware acceleration for avi and mkv files. The evo is a mess because its made by HTC and HTC doesn't give a crap about media capability. The evo stutters playing AVI files because it has to software decode them, which makes me laugh at my friend who owns it. That giant screen and it is useless for video. A tablet without divx certification is useless to me, which is one of the dozen or so reasons I will not be buying the Xoom.

Well if they do that for the new Tab, then the Xoom is going right back.. I have 90 days to find out

MichaelWestin said:
So far, everything seems to work pretty well. No force closes, the few games I have tried look great, everything is nice and smooth for the most part.
But god dammit, I just wanted one thing. ONE THING. To be able to play scene release 720p HD Tv shows, when I'm on the train every day, without having to re-encode. For years, there has been almost no solution to this. I consider it nothing short of a miracle that I can play the lower quality xvid rips on my Evo.
There are always other players like Archos that just play this stuff right out of the box. But I always wished that something I would carry anyway would play it, like my phone or tablet.
I downloaded every media player I could get a hold of with good reviews. Rock Player, VPlayer, qqplayer, arcmedia, mVideoplayer. No success. The best I could get was sound with choppy/lagging video, in Rock Player.
I know there are alternatives, but like I said, for this to be a feature on something I would be carrying on an every day basis for multipurpose use, instead of a dedicated media player is top feature to me.
I'm just trying to figure out if there is any hope of this eventually working on the current slew of Honeycomb Tablets with app optimization, or if the processor just can't handle it. Anyone have decent/extensive knowledge on that subject?
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Did you enable hardware decoding in the settings of RockPlayer?

parrotheadmjb said:
Did you enable hardware decoding in the settings of RockPlayer?
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That only works if the hardware supports hardware acceleration of the filetype, right? Does the Xoom support playing MKV and AVI files in the stock video player?

MichaelWestin said:
Well if they do that for the new Tab, then the Xoom is going right back.. I have 90 days to find out
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Thats what I am hoping for too. So far the entire line of Galaxy S phones and the Galaxy Tab was divx HD certified. I am hoping and praying that the delicious Galaxy Tab 10.1 with its giant 6860 mah battery has Divx HD certification as well. I can't imagine it wouldn't.

parrotheadmjb said:
Did you enable hardware decoding in the settings of RockPlayer?
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Software only. :-(

MichaelWestin said:
Software only. :-(
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Idk I turned on hardware decoding on RockPlayer in my Xoom and it started playing the 720P almost seamlessly, but no audio... weird

It is hardware decoding my mkv's though I am hitting an annoying bug where sound stops. going to home and back restores sound though.
The m4v I put on is being decoded in software and it can't quite handle it smoothly.
I will have to try a couple of my mp4 rips.

Yes they really should add more codecs to default Android. I bet they expected some 3rd party apps to arrive.

MichaelWestin said:
So far, everything seems to work pretty well. No force closes, the few games I have tried look great, everything is nice and smooth for the most part.
But god dammit, I just wanted one thing. ONE THING. To be able to play scene release 720p HD Tv shows, when I'm on the train every day, without having to re-encode. For years, there has been almost no solution to this. I consider it nothing short of a miracle that I can play the lower quality xvid rips on my Evo.
There are always other players like Archos that just play this stuff right out of the box. But I always wished that something I would carry anyway would play it, like my phone or tablet.
I downloaded every media player I could get a hold of with good reviews. Rock Player, VPlayer, qqplayer, arcmedia, mVideoplayer. No success. The best I could get was sound with choppy/lagging video, in Rock Player.
I know there are alternatives, but like I said, for this to be a feature on something I would be carrying on an every day basis for multipurpose use, instead of a dedicated media player is top feature to me.
I'm just trying to figure out if there is any hope of this eventually working on the current slew of Honeycomb Tablets with app optimization, or if the processor just can't handle it. Anyone have decent/extensive knowledge on that subject?
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A similar problem on the Tegra 2 Notion Ink adam was fixed with a software update or a custom rom.
When shipped, all the players etc, were choppy or desynced or had no audio - but running a custom rom fixed these problems. Additionally, shortly after shipping, Notion ink provided an update that fixed these problems on stock.
Its definetly a software issue - it will be fixed soon im sure.

OK Rockplayer can not handle my default mp4 rips well. They are nothing particularly special though I don't use ... I can't remember the term. "simple mode" I use the higher modes to allow for better quality for size.
Ah well, most of my newer stuff I rip to mkv's anyway (subtitle and alternative audio support).

setite said:
Yes they really should add more codecs to default Android. I bet they expected some 3rd party apps to arrive.
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CODECs cost money to license them. Google leaves this up to the OEM's to pay the bill.

This handbrake preset produces great videos for my evo...

warb said:
This handbrake preset produces great videos for my evo...
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I'm sorry, not to use a Steve jobsism, but if you have to convert videos for your tablet you have failed. I think it's ridiculous to have to do it for phones, which is why i bought the epic4g. To have to do it on a tablet is ridiculous, especially one with a dual core processor and an eight core gpu. The freaking iPad can play 720p mkv files now with xbmc ported over.

setite said:
Yes they really should add more codecs to default Android. I bet they expected some 3rd party apps to arrive.
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Strange as I am reading this a Xoom commercial came on the TV saying that the Xoom is "everything a tablet should be" and even showing a video playing on the device. I hope they are not serious about this issue.

+1 thanks for Costco return window

well I dont know what to say.. I tried two different formats (mp4 and mkv) 720p, and both worked just fine, all video and audio was perfect. These were top gear uk episodes. I'll try a dvd rip and see what happens now.

And.... any news in that regard?

If you own an iPad, how is this situation there?
I mean, can you just throw any video files and iPad will play it flawlessly?
I just want to know this comparison.
If VLC is available for Android, do you think this kind of issue will be solved?
I read this is caused by Google not investing on "codec" (licensing), neither does VLC.
If VLC can solve this, why Google does not want to use it
Sorry, if I got this all wrong. I am not an expert on video thing ...

[INFO] My first impressions... Not Good.

When unboxing I was very excited. I liked the color, the size, the feel and the build quality. I didn't mind the weight either.
Turned it on and was immediately impressed with the screen quality and the snappiness of the OS and preinstalled apps. I immediately checked for latest updates and downloaded flash 10.3.
The good things really stop there. I'm willing to give it another shot if someone can point out some resolutions for the following issues I’m about to point out.
1. I was unable to install some apps. Stating device is not supported. (Example, Slacker Radio, Pinger TextFree and etc...) I thought all android apps were compatibly with Honeycomb? I just thought the cell phone version just upscaled and other apps were optimized for Honeycomb. Boy I was wrong.
2. Video playback was very choppy on most of my files. The files I was trying to play were only 720p m4v files for the iPhone/iPad. I tried 4 different media player apps (Mobi, rockplayer, default player and another I can't think of write now) and all were jerky. The same file can be played smoothly using my Nokia N8 phone with a 680mhz single core cpu. By the way I was using the default Nokia video player app. I thought this device has a 1ghz dual cpu with a Tegra 2 gpu? It’s marketed to play 1080p. What the deal? And the solution to encode with like dvd rip like settings is not really a solution is it? More like a work around too me. There was an extreme lag too when trying to back out of the app.
3. YouTube app was much hit and misses too. More misses then hits. The first time i tried to play a video, it just stayed there with a spinning indicator. Waited for 10 minutes and the video never played. Tried again, played for a little bit then stopped. Tried again and got a force close. Launched and tried again, and a force close again. I gave up at that point. How could Google not QA their own app? I'm not talking about any app, but there main app "YOUTUBE" that gets about a millions of views a day. That's like internet explorer not working on a freshly loaded windows box.
4. How in the hell do I see my pictures in the SD CARD in keyboard slot to show up in the photo gallery? I have a Pictures Folder on the root of my SD Card and loaded it with jpg's and the gallery does not see them. I could not find any settings to add a folder for my SD Card. I can go to the file manager and open them one by one but this is just a ghetto way to look at your pictures. No way to do slideshow. So I went on the market looking for another app. I found QuickPic. Now I can add a directory. But guess what? I cannot see /Removable. Total BS.
5. The crashes. I've only used this device for 3 hours and already I've experienced 5 Force closes. 3 in YouTube and two while in the Market.
6. Other small annoyances I've found were: Clouding issues. I can clearly see it during a movie with the black bars on top and bottom. No task manager to exit or close apps without having to add an app. No Ad-Hoc networking support. I could not see my Wi-Fi hotspot on my Nokia N8 phone. The iPhone, iPad, Nokia Phones and laptops sees them no problem. The touchpad gets in the way while typing. I had to disable it to actually type a paragraph. The browser, I could not find a way to click a link to view full html for Facebook and other websites. Using the same "Opera" Browser on my Nokia N8 phone I have the option to view in full.
Issues in number six I can live with but 1-5, definitely not. I really do believe that the OS was rushed out the door too soon. I also believe Asus has very little to do with it. I am a professional hardware/software QA engineer and I think it should have been cooking in the oven for another 6 more months. I was a first adopter of symbian^3 and too think is was rushed out a couple of months early, but the experience was no way nearly as bad as what I experienced with Honeycomb. I didn't experience a single crash on Symbian^3 until a couple of week later I've owned it. With Honeycomb, a few minutes.

Yes, these are all Honeycomb issues, and you'll see the same with any other tablet running the OS (I went through it all with Xoom).
Let's wait for 3.1 (mid-June, per Asus).

Welcome to Honeycomb
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to be fair, video playback stuttering on 720p is a tegra 2 hardware issue that won't be fixed by a software update. in order for it to play smoothly you would need to re-encode whatever you're gonna put on the device

What version firmware are you running?

most of these are honeycomb issues..can't really fault ASUS or the TF for them...
the compatibility issue is subject to each app's own developer to address.. I suspect the honeycomb support will become eventually..
video playback has been discussed extensively everywhere.... as of now..Tegra 2 on honeycomb can only hard-decode main profile h264 (either 720p or 1080p)..I don't find the quality is massively different between main profile and high profile..but I agree it's a pain to re-encode all file to main profile if you have a huge library..

to be fair, video playback stuttering on 720p is a tegra 2 hardware issue that won't be fixed by a software update. in order for it to play smoothly you would need to re-encode whatever you're gonna put on the device
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I can easily play 720p h264 [email protected] videos on my Viewsonic Gtablet which was released last year on Tegra2 SOC. That's maximum it can get. Transformer fails to repeat this. Tegra2 is pretty weak hardware, but should be able to decode this. I hope it will be fixed in Honeycomb 3.1
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ivan.volosyuk said:
I can easily play 720p h264 [email protected] videos on my Viewsonic Gtablet which was released last year on Tegra2 SOC. That's maximum it can get. Transformer fails to repeat this. Tegra2 is pretty weak hardware, but should be able to decode this. I hope it will be fixed in Honeycomb 3.1
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yea, from my understanding 720p h264 [email protected] is the max tegra 2 can handle. if the transformer is having trouble with it then dunno

Youtube for now works better in the browser, 3.1 should fix this. Besides that you can tether your N8 by using the Wpa_supplicant file in the dev section.
Personally I have rarely found apps that wont work so can't help there.
Videos need to be re encoded, for an easy guide search handbrake guide within these forums, it's posted by Buri73.
No idea about SD card in dock either since I don't use the dock slot.

thaddyusmaximus said:
I was unable to install some apps. Stating device is not supported. (Example, Slacker Radio, Pinger TextFree and etc...) I thought all android apps were compatibly with Honeycomb? I just thought the cell phone version just upscaled and other apps were optimized for Honeycomb. Boy I was wrong.
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Devs are free to exclude their app from large screen devices when they upload to the market, that is their choice.
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2. Video playback was very choppy on most of my files. The files I was trying to play were only 720p m4v files for the iPhone/iPad. I tried 4 different media player apps (Mobi, rockplayer, default player and another I can't think of write now) and all were jerky. The same file can be played smoothly using my Nokia N8 phone with a 680mhz single core cpu. By the way I was using the default Nokia video player app. I thought this device has a 1ghz dual cpu with a Tegra 2 gpu? It’s marketed to play 1080p. What the deal? And the solution to encode with like dvd rip like settings is not really a solution is it? More like a work around too me. There was an extreme lag too when trying to back out of the app.
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AOSP android has no MKV container support, Some OEMs may add support (Like Samsung) but the only way to decode MKV containers is with pure software rendering (E.G. Rockplayer Moboplayer) but software rendering on a 1ghz cpu will _never_ play HD h.264 well
Specs for The current crop of Tegra2 Honeycomb tablets are up to 1080p h.264 baseline-profile only mp4 container only + stereo aac
thaddyusmaximus said:
3. YouTube app was much hit and misses too. More misses then hits. The first time i tried to play a video, it just stayed there with a spinning indicator. Waited for 10 minutes and the video never played. Tried again, played for a little bit then stopped. Tried again and got a force close. Launched and tried again, and a force close again. I gave up at that point. How could Google not QA their own app? I'm not talking about any app, but there main app "YOUTUBE" that gets about a millions of views a day. That's like internet explorer not working on a freshly loaded windows box.
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I do not have this problem
thaddyusmaximus said:
4. How in the hell do I see my pictures in the SD CARD in keyboard slot to show up in the photo gallery? I have a Pictures Folder on the root of my SD Card and loaded it with jpg's and the gallery does not see them. I could not find any settings to add a folder for my SD Card. I can go to the file manager and open them one by one but this is just a ghetto way to look at your pictures. No way to do slideshow. So I went on the market looking for another app. I found QuickPic. Now I can add a directory. But guess what? I cannot see /Removable. Total BS.
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The mount point for the MicroSD was added by ASUS, the built in google app are not aware of this mount point's existance. Feel free to complain to ASUS. This is why the Xoom shipped with a disabled MicroSD-card slot
thaddyusmaximus said:
5. The crashes. I've only used this device for 3 hours and already I've experienced 5 Force closes. 3 in YouTube and two while in the Market.
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I do not get the frequency of crashes you do, but those few I do I expect to clear up with the 3.1, there is no debate that Honeycomb was rushed out of the door.
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No task manager to exit or close apps without having to add an app.
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Android does not need a task manager, if you insist on force-terminating an app go to setting->Applications->manage applications->running
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No Ad-Hoc networking support. I could not see my Wi-Fi hotspot on my Nokia N8 phone. The iPhone, iPad, Nokia Phones and laptops sees them no problem.
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I use Bluetooth PAN, it's easier on the battery. But then again my phone does infrastructure tethering.
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The touchpad gets in the way while typing. I had to disable it to actually type a paragraph.
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Surely this is no different than any other netbook?
thaddyusmaximus said:
The browser, I could not find a way to click a link to view full html for Facebook and other websites. Using the same "Opera" Browser on my Nokia N8 phone I have the option to view in full.
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Settings->advanced->user agent

Welcome to the wonderful world of Early Adoption
As above, I've had no particular problem with video playback, I've used Aura to rip some DVDs using the Xoom presets and they all run pretty fine (some very slight a/v sync issues maybe, but equally that could be my imagination looking for problems that arent there). I can't comment too much on the 720p / 1080p playback issue as I bought the tablet largely as a device for watching movies on the move rather than plugging into a TV and I don't think I'll see too much of a difference between 720 and 1080 on the TF's screen.
Otherwise, as others have said before, I'd like to think the majority of wrinkles will be ironed out with HC3.1. One thing to bear in mind: it's not like we're playing with a new tech running an established OS, or an established tech running a new OS. For better or worse we're running a new (and largely beta-plus) OS on new tech. This is the New World, Android-wise, so I guess we have to expect problems to begin with at least. And hell, at least we have working microSD slots

When did Internet Explorer worked properly? XD

AOSP android has no MKV container support, Some OEMs may add support (Like Samsung) but the only way to decode MKV containers is with pure software rendering (E.G. Rockplayer Moboplayer) but software rendering on a 1ghz cpu will _never_ play HD h.264 well
Specs for The current crop of Tegra2 Honeycomb tablets are up to 1080p h.264 baseline-profile only mp4 container only + stereo aac
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While this is all true, the OP was talking about m4v container, not MKV. I have a 720p rip of Ninja Assassin in h264 and m4v container and it plays smooth on iPad 2 but choppy on the TF (I had to rename it to mp4 for the TF to recognize it and no renaming has nothing to do with playback as m4v and mp4 are interchangeable like that).

songmeesay said:
While this is all true, the OP was talking about m4v container, not MKV. I have a 720p rip of Ninja Assassin in h264 and m4v container and it plays smooth on iPad 2 but choppy on the TF (I had to rename it to mp4 for the TF to recognize it and no renaming has nothing to do with playback as m4v and mp4 are interchangeable like that).
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Good point, my mistake. So if you run MP4Box -info on the file what do you get?
( http://www.videohelp.com/tools/mp4box )

Looks like it's h264/avc [email protected]

songmeesay said:
While this is all true, the OP was talking about m4v container, not MKV. I have a 720p rip of Ninja Assassin in h264 and m4v container and it plays smooth on iPad 2 but choppy on the TF (I had to rename it to mp4 for the TF to recognize it and no renaming has nothing to do with playback as m4v and mp4 are interchangeable like that).
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Yes that's my point. Other devices like iPad and Nokia Phones can play these files. I only want to encode once where its a decent quality on my phone, pc, ipad and TF.

Munszu said:
When did Internet Explorer worked properly? XD
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True but when accessing web outlook IE is king.

monkeyboy451 said:
What version firmware are you running?
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The firmware version is 8.2.3.9.

Maybe you should update? 8.2.3.13 has been out for a while now.

Now i'm noticing I have to reboot the device when to transferring files from Full Sized SD Card to internal memory after coming out of standby mode.

[Q] Wanting Info before I buy

Im considering purchasing an Iconia Tab, spec wise it's a decent all around tablet. What I want is how well will this supplement the rest of my household and mobile devices, can I use this as a fill in for my bulky lap top when I decide to not carry it around, how well will this stream videos across the hdmi port to my tv rather than buying another box for my entertainment system. Just info in general is what I seek, and who better to ask than you guys.

Yes this device is awesome.. Streaming thru hdmi does work . I have done so with much success .Thou there are limitations.. READ THE FIRST STICKY Thread . by Wearcat.. she is awesome with this type of stuff .
as far as other things ..
things i use my tablet for
only thing i check email on.
browser forums
web site stuff google music and can browser my home network from anywhere
GPS
so it can replace most of the things you HAVE TO DO Short of editing images and major documents typing is not great on the tab unless you plug in a keyboard ..
i would say if your buying a tablet get this one over the available tablets.. or wait until tegra 3 comes out.. but waiting will be more costly new tech is not cheap

Not really looking for something to completely repalce my lap top as of yet, granted I havent turned it on really in months other than to charge one of my phones from time to time. Acer to me seems to build a reliable product, I have 2 17" laptops, and I purchased two Acer netbooks for my children. It looks like it would be a great supplement to the rest of my android fleet as well. Really just need something that I can take when I travel light, read emails, check my google voice, read books, watch a video here or there, more or less something to replace some dutie of my phone while at home and to replace some duties of my laptop while away. Will probly use it as gps too since its got a bigger screen would look great mounted in my truck OOOH better yet remove my radio and install bluetooth speakers with a custom built dash mount.

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how well will this stream videos across the hdmi port to my tv rather than buying another box for my entertainment system. Just info in general is what I seek, and who better to ask than you guys.
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If you live in the US you're in for a treat as you can use Google Videos for renting and streaming movies and Google Music to store all your songs there and streaming them too so you don't have to use tablet's own storage space for them.
And yes, displaying videos through HDMI works just fine, though there are several limitations. Like for example, you will only get 720p output if you use non-default player, the default player is AFAIK the only one that can do 1080p output, but then again the default player doesn't support .MKV files or subtitles or anything.
As for actual movies themselves: the tablet only supports 1080p basic-profile, meaning that you will have to transcode almost everything you might already have. Not to mention that the tablet also doesn't handle AC3 audio, so again you will have to downmix audio first before you transfer the file to the tablet.
You have to decide for yourself if it's worth the hassle, but I would personally suggest getting a Tegra3 - based tablet instead even though it's more expensive, just to save you from the hassle from having to transcode everything. It really is a terribly hassle if you are a film buff like myself.

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If you live in the US you're in for a treat as you can use Google Videos for renting and streaming movies and Google Music to store all your songs there and streaming them too so you don't have to use tablet's own storage space for them.
And yes, displaying videos through HDMI works just fine, though there are several limitations. Like for example, you will only get 720p output if you use non-default player, the default player is AFAIK the only one that can do 1080p output, but then again the default player doesn't support .MKV files or subtitles or anything.
As for actual movies themselves: the tablet only supports 1080p basic-profile, meaning that you will have to transcode almost everything you might already have. Not to mention that the tablet also doesn't handle AC3 audio, so again you will have to downmix audio first before you transfer the file to the tablet.
You have to decide for yourself if it's worth the hassle, but I would personally suggest getting a Tegra3 - based tablet instead even though it's more expensive, just to save you from the hassle from having to transcode everything. It really is a terribly hassle if you are a film buff like myself.
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Not a big movie buff, just like to watch them, and really for me watching a movie on it would be a once in a blue moon thing and not a big deal breaker. Most typically stream movies through my xbox, and my tv only plays at 720p so no 1080 for me as of yet. I did read your thread about the handbrake looks involved but not extremely advanced difficult. Thanks for your input think Ill go with this until the tegra 3 comes out then weigh my options then. Maybe by then Ill be able to get a new TV to compliment a new tablet.
And seriously you edited your post because of a missing semicolon? I bet it pains you to read the gibberish I just typed.

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Not a big movie buff, just like to watch them, and really for me watching a movie on it would be a once in a blue moon thing and not a big deal breaker. Most typically stream movies through my xbox, and my tv only plays at 720p so no 1080 for me as of yet. I did read your thread about the handbrake looks involved but not extremely advanced difficult. Thanks for your input think Ill go with this until the tegra 3 comes out then weigh my options then. Maybe by then Ill be able to get a new TV to compliment a new tablet.
And seriously you edited your post because of a missing semicolon? I bet it pains you to read the gibberish I just typed.
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Yes she does...I think its so cute.her and a few of the guys are on me often for my lack of typing and spelling skills.
But they loves me so i not cry too often. Giggles.

The post for using Handbrake to convert the vids has worked perfectly fine on all the videos I have had to convert and is much easier to do than the instructions make it sound. The instructions are actually just really detailed, so there's less to do than what you read.
One of my favorite uses now for the tablet... I have a Super Nintendo again!. I finally got a wired generic PS3 remote, using some SNES emulator (forgot which), connected to my TV over HDMI, and some, um... "backed up" SNES games and BAM, full SNES center again. I am such a nerd for "The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past".
Also, when I'm feeling really lazy, I use TeamViewer to remote into my HTPC and use it as my wireless keyboard/mouse. AND, if you have a Sony Media Streamer, there is a Android app to allow you to control your N100 or N200 from the tablet. Oh, and I read a lot of eBooks on it.
All in all, just as you mentioned, this tablet is a great "supplement", and since I never have the need for heavy duty computing while on the go, the tablet is all I've ever needed when I am not home. The main reason for me choosing this one ovr the others was the built in ports such as the miniUSB, USB, HDMI, and audio ports. Yeah those may have added a little girth and heft to the device, but those were bonuses for me instead of getting a device where you need to buy different adapters to have the same ports.

garringm said:
Not a big movie buff, just like to watch them, and really for me watching a movie on it would be a once in a blue moon thing and not a big deal breaker. Most typically stream movies through my xbox, and my tv only plays at 720p so no 1080 for me as of yet.
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Then you should have no issues A500 works just fine for streaming movies, too, though there is no DLNA client on it by default. You can install one from the Market anyways so it's not such a huge issue.
I did read your thread about the handbrake looks involved but not extremely advanced difficult.
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It actually isn't all that difficult, I just rather write too much than too little when writing a guide or tutorial. Basically import profile, select file and press Start
And seriously you edited your post because of a missing semicolon? I bet it pains you to read the gibberish I just typed.
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Aye. I sometimes obsess quite a bit over proper punctuation and spelling. But then again, it's not a bad quality for someone who often writes guides, tutorials or tries to help people on the Internets

Well I bought it last night and I gotta say what an amazing piece of hardware. I havent found a feature yet that I dislike. Seems to have ample computing power for what I need, and the display is fairly decent sems a little washed out on the white side but still good. Thanks for everyones help.

Read twice flash once.!!!!!!!
your very welcome thank everyone by reading before flashing so that you don't mess the tablet up.
Something that im guessing is easily done.
Flashed mine 30or so times and never bricked thou close once.

Man.... almost grounds for visiting a "dating" site....
What ever happened to "brute force"?
No, we have to have "correct" punctuation here... Wani wani wani...
Just get the tab. For the money, you will not find a finer device.
Or a better lot of people to support it

I just bought mine a couple of days ago and I am very happy with it. Trying to read as much as I can before the rooting process begins.... You will be happy with it.

[Q] Ouya or GBox Midnight MX2?

OUYA Console by Ouya
Permalink: http://amzn.com/B0050SZD18
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G-Box Midnight MX2 Android 4.2 Jelly Bean Dual Core XBMC Streaming Mini HTPC TV Box Player by Matricom
Permalink: http://amzn.com/B00CH643A8
Which one should I go for guys, especially in terms of hardware. Tegra 3 vs A9+Mali400, apparently both have no issues with XBMC or 1080P playback. I do not plan to use either for games, mostly media and music and dowload box. If it doesn't matter, I might go for the MX2 as there are more connectivity options there.

I think that, in terms of brute force, Tegra 3 overhelms A9+Mali400. OUYA bears the last Tegra3 revision and, theoretically, NVIDIA works with OUYA Team to boost it up.
If you buy OUYA, you gain a Bluetooth controller for the same prize which can be used as remote.
At, the end, nobody knows if OUYA nor G-Box thing will have support from the scene, which, for me, is a key value.

I'd say if you're not interested in gaming, I'd go with the G-box. The ouya is marketed as a game console, and while they may add support for some media features in the future, for right now we're busting our tails trying to get better compatibility with the play store apps. the G-box is designed as a media player, and it already supports XBMC with some great reviews. It also includes the play store, so you can easily download the latest versions of netflix, hulu, etc.

Cool, I think that settles it for me, I wasn't aware that the regular playstore apps wouldn't work on the ouya. I will get an MX2 and post a review soon. Also it helps that I can connect a few spare portable hard drives and use this as a streaming box to other TVs in the house.

Didn't mean to mislead, because some play store apps will work. However, a lot don't, or are glitchy or crash occasionally, and they all have to be sideloaded because there is no play store access at all yet...

The gbox is pretty good. I have had it for a few days now and use my Logitech keyboard that also has a touch pad. It works great. Honestly, I would probably hate it if I didn't have the keyboard. The play store works perfectly. I haven't had a problem installing any apps. It is fully rooted. There has been a few times when it has restarted but it is android, it isn't perfect. Especially for 100 bucks. External hard drive works great but sometimes loses power. I don't think the gbox puts off enough juice. A powered hub would fix this issue. I wish there was development for the gbox but metronix or however you spell it won't release source.
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ouya vs mx2
plasmafire said:
OUYA Console by Ouya
Permalink: http://amzn.com/B0050SZD18
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G-Box Midnight MX2 Android 4.2 Jelly Bean Dual Core XBMC Streaming Mini HTPC TV Box Player by Matricom
Permalink: http://amzn.com/B00CH643A8
Which one should I go for guys, especially in terms of hardware. Tegra 3 vs A9+Mali400, apparently both have no issues with XBMC or 1080P playback. I do not plan to use either for games, mostly media and music and dowload box. If it doesn't matter, I might go for the MX2 as there are more connectivity options there.
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Well i have the G-Box MX2 i love it but it died on me. Wont boot up, stuck on the Matricom Screen. I love all the usb it has, was even able to use my Logitech Revue K700 Kb and add a 2TB WD Passport to it with an SDcard. But i think it needs a Quadcore to be a lil more fluid for video. I will return it to get the ouya. Dont like the fact that the Ouya has only one USB port but you cant have everything i guess. i hope the Ouya gets the same XBMC support as the G-box. Only had it for 17 days died on day 14 . Tried the reset option but that didnt work. Maybe it was my box. But when it worked it was awsome.

I'm actually going to be doing a review on the MX2 today and uploading it tonight, I'll be comparing it's gaming features to the Ouya and stuff.
Spoiler alert, the Ouya is way ****ing better.
EDIT: Vid's up, see the Ouya destroy the MX2 for yourself.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miTst6QE-34

Interesting topic. I was also looking at the Gbox before I pre-ordered the Ouya. I think the Tegra 3 on the Ouya would do a better job on graphics than the dual core Gbox Midnight. It's not just processor speed and number of cores, but also graphics processor. Plus, the bluetooth on the Ouya means one less USB dongle to plug in.
I went with the Ouya, hoping the hard working people on XDA will get a pure Android ROM for the Ouya soon. If I'm stuck with the Ouya's Android skin, it'd probably be an even split which way I'd go.

I saw the "XIOS DS Media Play" and considered it against the Ouya. I think these box with out of the box rooted + Play Store compatibility is better for the majority, especially non-geeks who don't want to fiddle flashing/etc. Not having PlayStore is still a big flaw for the Ouya in term of satisfying a wider audience imo.
For me the Ouya is the clear choice, it have a dedicated XDA forum section for a reason, it will get more community development and for sure the Ouya will likely get CyanogenMod and other roms, while its less likely with these other Android boxes.
For hardware performance the Tegra3 will be faster than these dual core 1.5GHz A9 with Mali-400 gpu.
If you are looking for a lot of gaming then the Ouya is the way to go, otherwise get one of these Cortex A9 boxes if you only need video playback. There will be some of these boxes that will exceed the Ouya in term of performance in no time, but the Ouya have XDA community that's the key for me. This is the case for all Android devices that I buy.

Went for the gbox for now as a no hassle xbmc box. What you mentioned is absolutely right that the ouya will overtake all these boxes as soon as a rom gets out. I will just wait for that to happen and maybe a tegra 4 device will happen too by then.
Thanks for all the insight guys.
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Axelben said:
Well i have the G-Box MX2 i love it but it died on me. Wont boot up, stuck on the Matricom Screen. I love all the usb it has, was even able to use my Logitech Revue K700 Kb and add a 2TB WD Passport to it with an SDcard. But i think it needs a Quadcore to be a lil more fluid for video. I will return it to get the ouya. Dont like the fact that the Ouya has only one USB port but you cant have everything i guess. i hope the Ouya gets the same XBMC support as the G-box. Only had it for 17 days died on day 14 . Tried the reset option but that didnt work. Maybe it was my box. But when it worked it was awsome.
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Just ordered the Gbox MX 2 and have a Logitech Revue KB - how do I get the two to talk?

plasmafire said:
Went for the gbox for now as a no hassle xbmc box. What you mentioned is absolutely right that the ouya will overtake all these boxes as soon as a rom gets out. I will just wait for that to happen and maybe a tegra 4 device will happen too by then.
Thanks for all the insight guys.
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This is an interesting direct comparison between Ouya and the G-box Midnight MX2.
http://www.amazon.com/review/R35SEI3ONB5SCK/ref=cm_cr_pr_viewpnt#R35SEI3ONB5SCK
It didn't make the Midnight look very good. The Ouya emulator games seem to work really well in the video. The Midnight had issues with games and 1080P videos, and the emulator games on the Midnight ran slow. The reviewer also couldn't get bluetooth adapters to work, so could use a PS2 wireless controller. Granted, this is just one person's attempt to use the Midnight box, maybe other people have overcome these issues with some setting changes.

Yep the guy is playing games and using plex..both of which the mx2 doesn't do well. I am just going to have it boot into xbmc launcher. Run utorrent with rss feeds from showrss in the background. And maybe run droidnas on it. I have seen logitech mini keyboards work so that is what I'll get.

coachclass said:
This is an interesting direct comparison between Ouya and the G-box Midnight MX2.
http://www.amazon.com/review/R35SEI3ONB5SCK/ref=cm_cr_pr_viewpnt#R35SEI3ONB5SCK
It didn't make the Midnight look very good. The Ouya emulator games seem to work really well in the video. The Midnight had issues with games and 1080P videos, and the emulator games on the Midnight ran slow.
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Yea, I keep getting torn one way or the other every day when I see a review that is posted.
My primary use for either device will not be for games at all. 100% streaming media playback from either my local nas or sites like youtube, amazon vod, etc...
I also won't be using Plex and instead be going with XBMC.
As for Plex... the above video review showed some really bad stuttering while playing 1080p video. On Android, is Plex using its own decoder for playback or does it offload it to MX Player? I ask because when streaming any of my local 1080i content (wirelessly) to my Xoom tablet, it plays back in MX Player flawlessly.
So is the MX2 video stuttering in the video review a fault of the hardware or Plex software?

SamsungBlue said:
Just ordered the Gbox MX 2 and have a Logitech Revue KB - how do I get the two to talk?
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Yes you can use the Revue KB. Just buy the Unity USB. You will be able to use it anywhere.

mkhopper said:
Yea, I keep getting torn one way or the other every day when I see a review that is posted.
My primary use for either device will not be for games at all. 100% streaming media playback from either my local nas or sites like youtube, amazon vod, etc...
I also won't be using Plex and instead be going with XBMC.
As for Plex... the above video review showed some really bad stuttering while playing 1080p video. On Android, is Plex using its own decoder for playback or does it offload it to MX Player? I ask because when streaming any of my local 1080i content (wirelessly) to my Xoom tablet, it plays back in MX Player flawlessly.
So is the MX2 video stuttering in the video review a fault of the hardware or Plex software?
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This was my video. The settings I was using in Plex on both devices was to use the hardware to decode and playback the videos. The MX2's hardware just simply isnt nearly good enough to rely on for high resolution video playback, and on top of that there's some really annoying kinks with it like no bluetooth support at all and a very fussy keyboard input system that really sucks compared to stock android and what the Ouya uses.There's also a higher res version of the review on youtube, I linked to it on the first page of this thread towards the bottom.

Just got my MX2 today. I was quite apprehensive after reading some of the comments, but I must say that after using it for a while.. it is exactly what I needed. I am not saying it is better than ouya, but I have XBMC setup with all my local media and video plugins. It works like a charm. I will not play any games on it so I don't really care about the gaming performance.
All programs installed from Play store work
Full 1080p videos play no issues on xbmc.
Torrents are download via showrss to my xbmc monitored directory.
USB hard drive 1TB western digital is powered via the usb ports and shared via droid nas
Quick video 1080p: http://youtu.be/vQ6FvGtKbEw

mkhopper said:
Yea, I keep getting torn one way or the other every day when I see a review that is posted.
My primary use for either device will not be for games at all. 100% streaming media playback from either my local nas or sites like youtube, amazon vod, etc...
I also won't be using Plex and instead be going with XBMC.
As for Plex... the above video review showed some really bad stuttering while playing 1080p video. On Android, is Plex using its own decoder for playback or does it offload it to MX Player? I ask because when streaming any of my local 1080i content (wirelessly) to my Xoom tablet, it plays back in MX Player flawlessly.
So is the MX2 video stuttering in the video review a fault of the hardware or Plex software?
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not sure if plex has the issue xbmc for ouya has at the moment but after the new firmware update last week most of my videos have stuttering seems like a framerate issue I reported it to ouya and they got back to me saying they are aware of the issue and are working on it. Before that update my videos were playing smooth.

plasmafire said:
Yes you can use the Revue KB. Just buy the Unity USB. You will be able to use it anywhere.
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Thanks. There seems to be quite a few "Unity" USB recovers from Logitech. I couldn't find one that listed the Revue KB as a compatible device. Would any of those Unity receivers that work with other Logitech KBs or mice work? Seems like there are several in the $10-15 range. I appreciate your help.

My Quest for the Ultimate Retro Gaming system and Media player.

Hello everyone! Seems like this is the only place on the web to discuss the mojo.
I've been trying to build a flawless XBMC/Emulation machine for quite some time now. I had previously been using a very powerful windows pc running xbmc with advanced launcher. However I found that there were just too many things that could go wrong. Too many scripts to write to combat the misshaps and overall it wasn't the best solution.
So I ordered an ouya. Now I have my Ouya hooked up to the tv and it runs xbmc fairly well. It also runs most standalone emulators quite well, such as the broglia ones. But when compared to my Nvidia shield the video output doesn't look as good for some reason, retroarch doesn't work nearly as well, theres no play store, no sd card slot. Now I got it for 79.99 with free shipping so I'm not complaining, it does much more than I ever expected it would for that price. But I wanted an experience to rival my shield, but permanently connected to my tv. So I ordered a Mojo when they announced ouya app support and the price drop.
It hasn't arrived yet but I'm getting anxious.
Current plans are to run TvLauncher as the main launcher. Or create a custom setup using something like zooper widget and nova launcher.
The main screen will feature XBMC, the ouya app (whenever its available) Gamestream (whenever it is available also), as well as Nostalgia (an ouya app) or some other emulator front end.
Possibly I will add youtube and netflix (if an hd version becomes available) to the launcher.
I've order a 1tb WD Passport to connect to the USB 3.0 port. This will be a rom and save location mostly. As all media playback will be done from my home server.
Also going to be using retroarch with crt shaders as the main emulator.
Roms as well as game saves will be synced between my shield and mojo via dropsync, so that when I exit the game on my shield I can resume where I left off seemlessly on the mojo and vice versa.
I will likely be making some videos of how it all works if I can get it working the way I want.
My question is, does anybody see anything glaringly wrong with my approach? Is there anything I'm missing? Any app that might work better than the ones I plan to use. Or any tweaks or hacks that I'm going to have to do to the mojo to do this kind of thing. Anything specific I need to figure out regarding the 1tb hdd I plan to use? Any input or interest would be greatly appreciated.

Hi and welcome to the MOJO side :silly:
SeeThruHead said:
.. But when compared to my Nvidia shield the video output doesn't look as good for some reason ..
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:laugh::laugh: the shield is a Tegra 4 with 2GB ram like the MOJO, ouya is only Tegra3 and 1GB ram:laugh::laugh:
SeeThruHead said:
Current plans are to run TvLauncher as the main launcher. Or create a custom setup using something like zooper widget and nova launcher.
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You sound like a launcher fan, but it's really not essential, you might want to try MOJO without it just to see.
Experiment with the CTRLR in gamesmart mode (so you don't have to switch in/out of mouse mode).
the start button = mouse click
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I've order a 1tb WD Passport to connect to the USB 3.0 port.
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The USB 3.0 port is recommended for the BT4 dongle (which is need to use the CTRLR until kitkat comes out).
And MOJO has readonly access to NTFS and no access to exFat.
But rooting it and install (don't know the name) app fixes this, just go through the threads here, you'll find it (not many).
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Roms as well as game saves will be synced between my shield and mojo via dropsync, so that when I exit the game on my shield I can resume where I left off seemlessly on the mojo and vice versa.
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Nice! what a great idea!
The broglia emulators for ouya work fine, just need to remap the controls.
The official XBMC apk works well with CTRLR.
Ouya games don't map to the CTRLR very well.. some let you configure the controller, but most don't (find the thread).
So I wonder how ouya is going to fix that? I bet they wont and make the poor devs fix it :crying:
I recommend rooting it for full access to google play, and it's easy.
I can't see you having issues doing what you want, it'll work more or less like your shield only with a better controller and no setting up
Let us know how you go and looking forward to your videos :good:

gwaldo said:
Hi and welcome to the MOJO side :silly:
:laugh::laugh: the shield is a Tegra 4 with 2GB ram like the MOJO, ouya is only Tegra3 and 1GB ram:laugh::laugh:
The USB 3.0 port is recommended for the BT4 dongle (which is need to use the CTRLR until kitkat comes out).
And MOJO has readonly access to NTFS and no access to exFat.
But rooting it and install (don't know the name) app fixes this, just go through the threads here, you'll find it (not many).
Nice! what a great idea!
The broglia emulators for ouya work fine, just need to remap the controls.
The official XBMC apk works well with CTRLR.
Ouya games don't map to the CTRLR very well.. some let you configure the controller, but most dont (find thread).
So I wonder how ouya is going to fix that? I bet they wont and make the devs fix it :crying:
I recommend rooting it for sure, and it's easy.
I can't see you having issues doing what you want, it'll work more or less like your shield only with a better controller and no setting up
Let us know how you go and looking forward to your videos :good:
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There's an app to enable rw to ntfs or to exfat?
I'm hoping to run retroarch with custom borders and shaders (not graphically intensive ones, just crt style.) but retroarch has been giving me nothing but problems on my shield while i've been trying to get it working with dropsync. It was working fine just syncing the saves but now I'm having it sync roms as well and its causing all sorts of havoc.
As for ouya games, honesly i haven't played any but ittle dew. and that one i played for only 30 minutes. I've been using it entirely for .emu emulators and xbmc. Thats the kind of experience I'd like to bring across to the mojo but I will need a proper front end for the emulators. Is there anything resembling the ouya app "Nostalgia" currently available for the Mojo? The author of that app has mentioned a play store version but I fear it will be some time before that materializes.
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Ok I think I've found it. The paragon app.
Will definitely pick that up when my mojo arrives.
So I've configured my shield with a folder called "dropsync" on the sd card. Everything in that folder is instantly synced to my dropbox and other android devices. I had retroarch synced but it's been giving me problems. The snes works fine but the core for GBC is a dog. So I decided to also sync all the saves from my other emulation apps. They're actually working better than retroarch so far. Going to load up dropsync onto the ouya tmrw to see how well save file syncing works between those two.

Drop sync is amazing. Also check out the thread here for folder mount. It is a great little app that will help with big games.
I too like gaming. Had the ouya and dunno what I'll end up using that for now since I have the mojo and like it more since it has play store access. Might just be a paperweight or travel companion tho honestly that's what I got the mojo for too.
I'm going to have to check out that launcher you mentioned too. Been looking for a cool launcher for the mojo to coincide with a console feel.
Also I use a moga controller with the mojo too. Works real well with games that support it better than the mojo controller.
Anyway I'm rambling lol
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jbuggydroid said:
Drop sync is amazing. Also check out the thread here for folder mount. It is a great little app that will help with big games.
I too like gaming. Had the ouya and dunno what I'll end up using that for now since I have the mojo and like it more since it has play store access. Might just be a paperweight or travel companion tho honestly that's what I got the mojo for too.
I'm going to have to check out that launcher you mentioned too. Been looking for a cool launcher for the mojo to coincide with a console feel.
Also I use a moga controller with the mojo too. Works real well with games that support it better than the mojo controller.
Anyway I'm rambling lol
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From what I've tested the ouya is the premiere low cost xbmc device on the market. I've tried the pivos and its horrible compare to the ouya and has no extra features. The black box costs more than an ouya and has terrible reviews.
My ouya will likely go to my mothers hdtv for xbmc purposes. She currently has a boxee box which is absolute garbage compared to the ouya and cost my more than twice as much.

I guess I need to do some more reading and possibly some YouTube watching to fully understand that xbmc is all about. Maybe then I'll be like using that app all the time
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jbuggydroid said:
I guess I need to do some more reading and possibly some YouTube watching to fully understand that xbmc is all about. Maybe then I'll be like using that app all the time
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You and me both. I've downloaded the app to my MOJO and use it sparingly to watch the limited content I'm able to get to (all available elsewhere btw) using it. Most of the add-ons I've tried don't work. I've found it easier to download specific apps and/or bookmark network websites (then create a desktop shortcut) for content I'm interested in. Perhaps you intend use xbmc to watch content you already have stored locally? Maybe I need to study up on it myself to fully understand its utility.

Domomojo said:
You and me both. I've downloaded the app to my MOJO and use it sparingly to watch the limited content I'm able to get to (all available elsewhere btw) using it. Most of the add-ons I've tried don't work. I've found it easier to download specific apps and/or bookmark network websites (then create a desktop shortcut) for content I'm interested in. Perhaps you intend use xbmc to watch content you already have stored locally? Maybe I need to study up on it myself to fully understand its utility.
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Watching content stored locally is the point of XBMC. I have a 14tb home server with sickbeard (automatic tv show downloader) and couchpotato (same thing for movies.) It organizes all my files with a wonderful interface with posters and cover art and episode synopsis. It's how I watch all my television content. I don't stream (terrible quality usually) and I don't pay for cable or satellite service.

SeeThruHead said:
Watching content stored locally is the point of XBMC. I have a 14tb home server with sickbeard (automatic tv show downloader) and couchpotato (same thing for movies.) It organizes all my files with a wonderful interface with posters and cover art and episode synopsis. It's how I watch all my television content. I don't stream (terrible quality usually) and I don't pay for cable or satellite service.
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Thanks! A few years ago I used to do the same thing manually with Agent, but I have long since let my 3rd party Usenet server subscription lapse (ATT is my ISP now, I have no idea if they even provide access to Usenet anymore). It just became more trouble than it was worth. I don't have cable anymore either, and other than a few shows on AMC and Discovery Channel, I'm able to find everything I'm interested in watching. Hopefully I'll find a source for programming on those two networks.

I guess I'll have to check it out more tho don't really need to use it much since my pc is hooked up to my big screen anyway. Will Def use it when I am out of town for work tho. Thanks for the insight
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jbuggydroid said:
I guess I'll have to check it out more tho don't really need to use it much since my pc is hooked up to my big screen anyway. Will Def use it when I am out of town for work tho. Thanks for the insight
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Up until I bought the MOJO, I've had a PC connected to my TV since around 2001. I far prefer the MOJO for a multitude of reasons including its small size, no noisy fan, no spinning hard drive, near instantaneous boot, no bloated OS requiring constant update, availability of a huge amount of no/low cost software and excellent graphics capability. The fact that it is also a powerful gaming console with a BT4 controller is just an added bonus. Worth every penny of the $249 I paid for mine.

Wow
SeeThruHead said:
Watching content stored locally is the point of XBMC. I have a 14tb home server with sickbeard (automatic tv show downloader) and couchpotato (same thing for movies.) It organizes all my files with a wonderful interface with posters and cover art and episode synopsis. It's how I watch all my television content. I don't stream (terrible quality usually) and I don't pay for cable or satellite service.
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Dude you sound a lot like me and if you are be prepared to be disappointed. XBMC works great on the OUYA but I wanted a smoother experience from my movie collection. I have a synology 1812+ with (6 3Tb and 2 2TB HHDs) with my entire movie collection with files ranging from 5GB+ for 720p to 10GB+ 1080p DTS files and the ouya did a good job, especially with hardware decoding on xbmc v13, even the ouya xbmc version did a great job but they lost DTS support so I had to use an older version for most of my movies to play audio. The biggest problem is that on the Mojo xbmc doesn’t hide the navigation soft keys so that means you watch those three buttons on the bottom of the screen the entire time you’re supposed to be enjoying a movie, the only way to remove it right now is by rooting your madcatz mojo but that requires a USB a to a cable that most people don’t just have laying around. You can also cross your fingers and hope that the mojo gets 4.4 kitkat soon since that adds immersive mode which xbmc just recently added that allows the application to take on the whole screen without the navigation soft keys appearing. The improvements that I thought I would see are just not there to justify paying twice the amount of an OUYA. Don’t get me wrong I think the Mojo is a great box but it’s not worth twice the price for performance that, at least to me is not noticeable.
P.S. the mojo is quite when compared to the Ouya (Loud Fan)

The thing will be rooted before I do anything else. I'm sure it will be easy enough to remove the navigation buttons. Also Xbmc Gotham nightlies should have support for dts (though I don't have many dts files). Xbmc runs flawlessly on my shield so km expecting it will perform similarly.
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SeeThruHead said:
The thing will be rooted before I do anything else. I'm sure it will be easy enough to remove the navigation buttons. Also Xbmc Gotham nightlies should have support for dts (though I don't have many dts files). Xbmc runs flawlessly on my shield so km expecting it will perform similarly.
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I find it sad that Mad Catz M.O.J.O. has no DTS working in XBMC, when that is working on other Android TV Boxes (MeLE, VidON, and MINIX) for many mounts now, and also do not have the navigation buttons on the bottom of the screen.

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I find it sad that Mad Catz M.O.J.O. has no DTS working in XBMC, when that is working on other Android TV Boxes (MeLE, VidON, and MINIX) for many mounts now, and also do not have the navigation buttons on the bottom of the screen.
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XBMC v13 does have DTS support, what i meant was the latest version of ouya xbmc lost their dts license so i had to sideload xbmc v13 or use an easrlier version of ouay xbmc to have DTS support. i own an Ouya and a Mojo and both have DTS support with XBMC v13 BETA 2.

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XBMC v13 does have DTS support, what i meant was the latest version of ouya xbmc lost their dts license so i had to sideload xbmc v13 or use an easrlier version of ouay xbmc to have DTS support. i own an Ouya and a Mojo and both have DTS support with XBMC v13 BETA 2.
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Thats likely the xbmc version I'll be using when I get my mojo. Anyone have an emulation front end for android? I like nostalgia for ouya but it's ouya only for now.

mejdam said:
XBMC v13 does have DTS support, what i meant was the latest version of ouya xbmc lost their dts license so i had to sideload xbmc v13 or use an easrlier version of ouay xbmc to have DTS support. i own an Ouya and a Mojo and both have DTS support with XBMC v13 BETA 2.
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So you have Dolby Digital and DTS and more (Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD Master) with XBMC 13.0 Gotham – Beta 2 on the Mad Catz M.O.J.O?
Because that means it is now a real Android TV BOX, and that is great news.

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So you have Dolby Digital and DTS and more (Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD Master) with XBMC 13.0 Gotham – Beta 2 on the Mad Catz M.O.J.O?
Because that means it is now a real Android TV BOX, and that is great news.
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I think what he was trying to say is that it has always had it. Not having it would be because you were using the wrong XBMC version. Though I think that only applies to the ouya and isn't even relevant when referring to the MOJO.

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I think what he was trying to say is that it has always had it. Not having it would be because you were using the wrong XBMC version. Though I think that only applies to the ouya and isn't even relevant when referring to the MOJO.
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That is correct, dtshd and truehd files play fine.

Do they pass through 5.1 surround properly?