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Hello everybody
By now, most of us use some kind of apps to SD. We have some pros (LucidRem, MarcusMaximuss, Cyanogen, others) who paved the way and take gread deal of time to teach those who don't quite have a good grip on it. Everybody's mileage varies, and I think the way people run their roms has an impact on how Apps2SD will perform. Some people switch roms every so often and others stick with a rom for a while. I would like to see how Apps to SD perfrom in the long run. Hopefully it will be helpfull to developers as we may potentionally uncover some patterns here.
FYI: I am looking to get at least 100 votes on this before it can be considered helpfull to MarcusMaximuss or other devs so don't be shy
Feel free to post your individual experiences but PLEASE, DO NOT GO OFF-TOPIC!!! IF YOU NEED TO ASK A QUESTION- PLEASE DO SO IN THE RELATED THREAD. QUESTIONS WILL NOT BE ANSEWERED HERE!!!!
Thanks for looking and don't forget to show respect and donate to real pro's here... they are the one's that keep XDA going strong.
By the way..... for those of you who may wonder why there's no "I keep having force-closes and other problems with my Apps2SD" poll options: It is because once it's up and running you REALLY shouldn't have that kind of problems with it. If you do- you're rather an exception to the rule then a rule itself.
Good luck to everyone still trying to figure it out.
Have had my apps on the SD card since the instructions came out.....all via command line...no GUI. Was *never* able to get /data/data moved to SD without all sorts of problems. But just the apps worked fine.
It's been a mostly positive experience. I have about 120 apps installed at the moment. I've pretty much stopped using my laptop entirely and instead use my phone for a lot of stuff I do.
I also stepped up to the unionfs method about 3 weeks ago. It worked flawlessly for one week, then my phone seemed to perform a self-wipe.
At that time I reflashed to TDOL with built-in support for unionfs and have been using it ever since. Friday I upgraded to 1.2b.
Apps are a tad slower to launch, even on a class 6 SD. But that's a small price to pay for having the space to install so much.
One of these days I have to move the caches back over. Never did re-do that after moving apps to SD.
Well, I must say that lucid's version with the symlinks was by far the easiest to set up and use.
I had a very difficult time getting Apps to SD 2 working and find it harder to manage but it is going strong.
I am now using Apps to SD 2 on an ext3 partition and it seems ok so far.
I wish there was an easier way but if anything gets messed up with Apps to SD 2 it means format and start again
Well peeps...
I am quite unhappy with the Xperia Play...
let me explain..
The xperia x10i was my first Android smart phone & it brought me a lot of joy simply bcos it was an amazing phone, especially after jumping from the Symbian pary.
the first few months were really great, but then the SE antics began..
Really ruined the party for me with super slo-mo update releases and stuff.
Being a fan of the PlayStation series, i really wanted to get my hands on the Xperia Play hoping that the problems with SE are sorted what with bootloaders unlocked & on time updates etc etc.
BUT, the phone itself fails to deliver...
at least am not satisfied with its performance.
i picked up the play & the incredible on the same day... handed the play to the wife so she too can jump on the android bandwagon...
the phone is super sluggish, keeps hanging, apps freeze ending with the phone having no solution but a restart.
i have reinstalled the firmware at least 3 times using repair option AND fresh installs.. also had one update from sony...
the problems just don't go
i was really hopeful of a better phone matching the specs on paper with regular updates...
thoroughly disappointed with the Play & SE...
just wanted to check if am the only user with these concerns & frustrations or am part of a larger 'never SE again' group
You may have a cheap SD card. Mine runs great. I picked up a 16gb card and move all the games and apps to the card through Apps2SD app.
If you have a different brand of SD card to try then try that.
lol.. so the problem could be that Sony gives off crappy memory cards with their devices?
Am currently using the standard box 8gb MMC...
To add, there isn't much of on the card or phone anyways.
Stock apps such as messaging and dialer freeze up...
I have the U.S. version that runs stock Gingerbread and the phone flies...you probably have a bad phone...I'd bring it back or send it back and get a replacement (or as has been suggested), try a new SD card.
My guess is a lot of the instability is due to the sony launcher. You could try something like launcher pro or adw launcher and see how that goes. My Xplay runs smooth, with no crashes or hangs. I don't know if it's because I installed a generic firmware (ie no carrier bloat), or because of the alternate launcher I use.
I had problems with my first play but it wasn't the same problem. After running intensive games the wireless, bluetooth, dual pad and power buttons stops workjng. I have to remove the battery to have it all working again. Rogers replaced my phone yesterday and I am 100percent satisfy with it. It is using the stock memory card. You should try rooting the phone and freezing all the bloatware that is causing all the unnecessary slow downs.
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hmm.. the launcher seems to be a valid point.
Swapping the IS memory card with the play's and check if there is a difference on either phone should be good to see..
Haven't had that problem either
Mine is pretty smooth, except for a few rare spots in some games.
Way better than my old OC'd 1.1Ghz Droid running Gingerbread.
Mine was working fine, but started to have problems as i installed a lot of apps. Many of them don't let you move them to the SD.
Now I'm having a problem with the texting/messaging app locking up every time i send one. If i clear off some apps it runs okay. But then I'm forced to get rid of apps I use on a daily basis. This lack of phone storage seems to be the cause of many of the Xperia play's problems.
I might give that app2sd a try, but doesn't that require a rooted phone? I also saw a post here somewhere about moving apps to the sd without root. Might give that a try...
Why the heck did they only put 512MB on the phone? Memory is relatively cheap right now. I don't get it...
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mrchewbacca said:
Mine was working fine, but started to have problems as i installed a lot of apps. Many of them don't let you move them to the SD.
Now I'm having a problem with the texting/messaging app locking up every time i send one. If i clear off some apps it runs okay. But then I'm forced to get rid of apps I use on a daily basis. This lack of phone storage seems to be the cause of many of the Xperia play's problems.
I might give that app2sd a try, but doesn't that require a rooted phone? I also saw a post here somewhere about moving apps to the sd without root. Might give that a try...
Why the heck did they only put 512MB on the phone? Memory is relatively cheap right now. I don't get it...
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I downloaded Apps2SD and it works great for Apps that allow you to move them to the SD card. I think root is required to move apps that aren't suppose to allow you to move them
Apps2SD also alerts/prompts you when an app is movable. So say you install a new app it will tell you right away.
The only thing im disappointed about with the phone, apart from the internal storage as
already mentioned, is the lack of development on xda.
I didnt think this would be an issue lol but I previously owned a hd2 and found this great
Site when I first bought that. So I have only used the hd2 forum until now and was used to
alot more development. So maybe I was a little naive.
Im not moaning as I know the devs are great ppl who cook us some great free gear just gutted
and hoping the play hasnt been forgotten about already as I think this phone could be really
spectacular with a decent custom rom
letmedanz said:
the phone is super sluggish, keeps hanging, apps freeze ending with the phone having no solution but a restart.
i have reinstalled the firmware at least 3 times using repair option AND fresh installs.. also had one update from sony...
the problems just don't go
i was really hopeful of a better phone matching the specs on paper with regular updates...
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Just picked up my xplay today and your experience is exactly opposite mine. It's just as spiffy and snappy as the Incredible it's replacing.
Since the xperia arc, neo and play are quite similar it is a waste of dev power to develop for those three at the same time. That would cost precious devving time so to speak. Development is now mainly done on the xperia arc, the flagship of SE's current xperia line and if it's working on the arc it'll be ported to the play and the neo. One could see this with rooting or stuff like flashtool.
In the arc section they're busy working on recovrey modes and costum roms are nearly fully functional I believe (not sure) that should be easely ported to the play. If you want to keep track of the developers development you could try to follow this board: http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=965
letmedanz said:
lol.. so the problem could be that Sony gives off crappy memory cards with their devices?
Am currently using the standard box 8gb MMC...
To add, there isn't much of on the card or phone anyways.
Stock apps such as messaging and dialer freeze up...
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My SD card came from my Service provider and not Sony.
I agree some of the previous comments, a lot of the lag seems to appear after the internal memory has been used up. Disappointing but there are things you can do as have been previously mentioned.
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Very interesting. Most people seem to be having not too many worries with the phone.
But i have now had the phone for over 3 months i guess, so the issues may show.
hope not for you guys..!
and hope mine gets better
Team,
I have whats probably a very basic question, but since I have 3 other tablets its hard to keep them all straight.
I bought the wife an NC, she sees the things I do in Android HC and likes what she sees, so I found the instructions for putting it on the card and bootnig.
SO FAR everything seems good, BUT she doesnt like having to swap out the card all the time (go figure)
I know that HC can be installed as the primary boot OS on the internal "drive"
I also believe that even after that, if she wanted to we could probably restore her back to out if the box, but my question is , can anyone point me to one or 2 places that might have a step by step walk through on those processes?
On my GTAB one of our devs has actually made a gtab for dummies site that walks you through several different FW functions, is there anything like that in the NC?
Even if the instructions are buried in a threaad I can do that, unfortunatly my work has picked up so much I dont have the time to read all the threads.
Personally I think the NC is probably the best value in the 7" market, and have referred many folks to them. My wife even wants to buy the boy one for thr 'book reading' function, I just have to figure out how to manipulate them 1st''any ideas would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
J
My suggestion: Drop HC. It is buggy, and slow. If you really want to have HC, flash this using ClockworkMod:
http://www.multiupload.com/71K84XF6BF
And then push this to /boot:
http://www.multiupload.com/3D9WSPUAUZ
Iking,
Thanks for that.
Now the other side of the question.
If she hates this, is there a documented method to restore it to out of the box?
I ask because on 2 of mine I know once I update past a certain point there is no going back.
Thanks
J
I got a Galaxy Tab 4 10.1 sm-t530nu for Christmas and I quickly rooted it using the Chainfire method with Odin. I only made backup images after I rooted the Tablet. is there anything I should be aware of that can break my tablet and or screw it up? I am an amateur when it comes to android and I will admit I don't fully understand it. I grew up on Windows and this is quite a large change. I have not been able to find information about any ROMs for kernels that work with the tablet. I have downloaded some apps that have to do with setting the CPU speed and I downloaded greenify and some other things but I have not been able to overclock the CPU at all because I don't have a ROM or kernel that will allow me to. Are there any tweaks that I can do to make this faster? I have changed to read ahead Buffer size and I've got some increase In speedbut that is all I have been able to achieve.
Can anyone recommend some essential apps and maybe some ROMs and kernels that will work for this tablet? Are there any good theme apps to personalize my tablet. As i said before I'm basically lost and feel like I'm out of my element and would love any info anyone can share with me. I have been reading a lot on the forums her but a lot of the content is above my head and i don't have a good understanding of it.
Hopefully you can help point me on the direction to making this tablet more modifiable and I can get a new ROM that allows me more control over my device.
Sincerely,
SalvelinuxFontinalis ☆
If you did a backup in recovery, you can look into xposed. Also, Nova launcher is a good replacement launcher to the standard touch wiz.
Thank you so much for your help I really appreciate it.Can i ask what xposed and nova launchers are. Btw i only backed up my phone AFTER rooted it. Also my tablet has no SD card slot and it only has an internal storage so if I do a backup on my tablet and later on it goes into boot loop or is messed up in some way will I even be able to use the backup I made since it won't be on an external SD card?
SalvelinuxFontinalis said:
Thank you so much for your help I really appreciate it.Can i ask what xposed and nova launchers are. Btw i only backed up my phone AFTER rooted it. Also my tablet has no SD card slot and it only has an internal storage so if I do a backup on my tablet and later on it goes into boot loop or is messed up in some way will I even be able to use the backup I made since it won't be on an external SD card?
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SF,
hi, just a thought, there's no need to overclock, the tab at stock is fairly well balanced. That being said, it's ALWAYS more fun
to put more bells and whistles on the bells and whistles :silly: . Keep the backup of you stock rom safe and sacred, and on all
you storages, internal, external, usb. You have a sm-t530nu your sdcard slot is by your volume buttons, if it isn't there, you have
a knock-off.
m
questions belong in q&a
Thank you Moonbutt!
moonbutt74 said:
SF,
hi, just a thought, there's no need to overclock, the tab at stock is fairly well balanced. That being said, it's ALWAYS more fun
to put more bells and whistles on the bells and whistles :silly: . Keep the backup of you stock rom safe and sacred, and on all
you storages, internal, external, usb. You have a sm-t530nu your sdcard slot is by your volume buttons, if it isn't there, you have
a knock-off.
m
questions belong in q&a
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Thank you for giving me some new info I really am appreciative of your help. I guess you're right the processor is quite nice as it is. I was just hoping to get it up to 1.4ghz and see if that would would be stable but if it can't be done it can't be done. I wasn't quite sure which area to post this in, so I apologize for that mishap. Can I keep a backup of my stock ROM on my PC and on a USB stick and use ODIN to flash it back onto my device IF I have bootloop or soft bricking?
Also, I can't find the SD slot. I know it's not a knock off because I bought it from Shoppers Drug Mart which is a large chain of pharmacy stores that also sell limited amounts of groceries, electronics, perfume and beauty product, magazines, and various other things. lol It's not a chain of stores that would sell a knock off.
The NU is the Wifi version. Nowhere on the box does it say it has a SD card slot. On the internet when you look it up on wikipedia or look online anywhere to find the specificatins it claims they all have extra storage capabilities but this strictly WIfi verision one definitely does not and has no SIM card slot either obviously.. It has only 16gb internal memory and 1.5gb RAM. I was really upset when I got it home and found out it had no slot. lol
I was wondering if maybe inside there was an area that could take a large SD card...But I can't find schematics for it anywhere. I would also love to make it 2gb of RAM if possible. But I have a feeling it would be difficult to tinker with this in comparison to what Im used to, which is building windows PC's. Linus/Android seems quite a bit different so I'm having trouble getting a hold on the whole thing but it's exciting to learn about an entirely new world of devices and programming that I never really paid attention to until now.
So anyways, yah It's upsetting to not have the SD capacity I desire. Maybe I can find a way to modify it?
Thanks for your help "M"! It is very much appreciated. I'm very new here but I can tell you know a lot about Android devices and that there are many other people here who have a lot to offer in terms of teaching and pointing newbies in the correct direction.
Sincerely,
SalvelinuxFontinalix
BTW Moonbutt! Do you know of any good stable ROMS or even kernels thats are compatible with the SM-T530NU that will allow overclocking??? I haven't found any ROMS specifically for this device.
Thank you Moonbutt!
moonbutt74 said:
SF,
hi, just a thought, there's no need to overclock, the tab at stock is fairly well balanced. That being said, it's ALWAYS more fun
to put more bells and whistles on the bells and whistles :silly: . Keep the backup of you stock rom safe and sacred, and on all
you storages, internal, external, usb. You have a sm-t530nu your sdcard slot is by your volume buttons, if it isn't there, you have
a knock-off.
m
questions belong in q&a
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I'm sorry for posting in the wrong area! I apologize for that mishap. I actually DID find the SD slot after looking where you told me to check. I didn't think it had one because on the box and in the manual it said nothing about having an SD slot. Also the Survivor Case I have which is like an Otterbox and keeps the device quite safe, has little flaps for waterproofing you can lift that let you use headphone jack or plug in the power cord etc, or a flap you can lift to use the camera. But there was no flap you could lift for the SD card. And I couldn't find schematics that proved the WIFI version had an SD slot.
So yes I found the slot and I'm so happy you told me about that and that I took it out of the case to give it a good check! lol Thank you so much for that info! I likely would've gone on for months without finding that SD slot! I've had it for like a month and didn't find it until you gave me that info!
I have another question for you Moobutt! You seem to know a lot about devices and Android/Linux etc. I'm new and know nothing and my forte is using/building windows PC's. It's very different to me to learn about Android and to use a Tablet instead of my PC but I'm liking it more and more as I learn to modify my device and personalize it in ways that are really cool.
Do you know of any ROMS or KERNELS for my device (SM-T530NU) that will allow me greater control over my device and specifically allow me to overclock my processor a small amount... from 1.2ghz up to 1.4ghz or so...? Or am I out of luck with this device? I hear there are not many ROMS or Kernels for it because everyone bought the more expensive and high end tablets and made ROMS for them instead. I got this for 117$ US brand new so I can't really coomplain about it. I find it works very nicely but I'd like to boost it a small amount. How would I go about it? IS it even possible?
Thanks for your help "M"! I appreciate it very much!
Sincerely,
SalvelinuxFontinalix
Sincerely,
SalvelinuxFontinalix
SF,
hi, spend some time using the XDA search function and reading through tutorials and the like.
Learn how to navigate device forums such as this one for the Samsung Galaxy Tab 4.
Currently the two sections containing rom developement information are a mish-mash for all the versions. 10.1 8.0 7.0
Other forums will have a better breakdown for size/versions, ALL forums have general and q&a sections where all the good juicy
entry level learning goes down. Read though as many complete threads as you can stand in one sitting or until your eyes pop out
and roll away ! :silly:
Seriously though, read, read, read ! It would be a hugely good thing for you to get solid on Linux and Android knowledge
to add to your arsenal. Just like working with windows or mac , learn your terminal !! An absolute must ! Do your self a huge
favor and try to find a good deal on a laptop with Linux already on it. Find every tut you can find, fire up your terminal and get learning.
As to roms and recoveries sub77 has Philz and TWRP available for the sm-t530nu.
As to roms sub77 and Metallica both have offerings, always read through the threads, especially the OP = original post.
Welcome to XDA !
m
Thanks!
moonbutt74 said:
SF,
hi, spend some time using the XDA search function and reading through tutorials and the like.
Learn how to navigate device forums such as this one for the Samsung Galaxy Tab 4.
Currently the two sections containing rom developement information are a mish-mash for all the versions. 10.1 8.0 7.0
Other forums will have a better breakdown for size/versions, ALL forums have general and q&a sections where all the good juicy
entry level learning goes down. Read though as many complete threads as you can stand in one sitting or until your eyes pop out
and roll away ! :silly:
Seriously though, read, read, read ! It would be a hugely good thing for you to get solid on Linux and Android knowledge
to add to your arsenal. Just like working with windows or mac , learn your terminal !! An absolute must ! Do your self a huge
favor and try to find a good deal on a laptop with Linux already on it. Find every tut you can find, fire up your terminal and get learning.
As to roms and recoveries sub77 has Philz and TWRP available for the sm-t530nu.
As to roms sub77 and Metallica both have offerings, always read through the threads, especially the OP = original post.
Welcome to XDA !
m
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Thanks AGAIN! For your help! I'll learn to navigate the device forums and look into the tutorials that are important and I'll look for those Q&A sections you mentioned. It looks like I have a LOT of reading and learning to do! Haha! I'm also going to check out the forums and look for info about the ROM's and recoveries etc!
I only have one laptop that runs Windows 8.1 but I can dual boot with Linux if that is useful for learning? I can't afford a cheap laptop but one option would be to install a brand new hard drive in the laptop and install a Linux OS on it. Is there a reason you say I should buy a cheap machine with Linux already on it? Or can I just use my current laptop with a new drive and a Linux OS on it? Which distribution of Linux would you recommend ?
By the way. Thank you for being kind and pleasant and for offering real information that I can actually use and for not making me feel like a complete idiot for asking for help. I've had some pretty rude comments from people on another Android forum (not XDA) so your help and politeness is very much appreciated.
It looks like I have a lot of learning to do I better get started if I want to learn how to master my Android devices! I really hope you've had an awesome weekend and you have a great week!
Cheers!
SalvelinuxFontinalix
SalvelinuxFontinalis said:
Thanks AGAIN! For your help! I'll learn to navigate the device forums and look into the tutorials that are important and I'll look for those Q&A sections you mentioned. It looks like I have a LOT of reading and learning to do! Haha! I'm also going to check out the forums and look for info about the ROM's and recoveries etc!
I only have one laptop that runs Windows 8.1 but I can dual boot with Linux if that is useful for learning? I can't afford a cheap laptop but one option would be to install a brand new hard drive in the laptop and install a Linux OS on it. Is there a reason you say I should buy a cheap machine with Linux already on it? Or can I just use my current laptop with a new drive and a Linux OS on it? Which distribution of Linux would you recommend ?
By the way. Thank you for being kind and pleasant and for offering real information that I can actually use and for not making me feel like a complete idiot for asking for help. I've had some pretty rude comments from people on another Android forum (not XDA) so your help and politeness is very much appreciated.
It looks like I have a lot of learning to do I better get started if I want to learn how to master my Android devices! I really hope you've had an awesome weekend and you have a great week!
Cheers!
SalvelinuxFontinalix
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If your gonna build roms and stuff linux is for you I guess. But all you really need is windows, with samsung drivers installed, adb installed(useful for sending commands. Look around on youtube for a howto), Odin(great for fixing a tablet in a bootloop/flash back to stock), and there could be more! Most things for android stuffs/tools work on windows. Linux can have a few things that work but since you still have lots of learning todo windows should do for now. Once you get into installing recoveries and custom zip roms you should be good to go on customization part. Heck I was new back in august when I got my tab s(I help around on other forums such as the tab 4 forums) and I sure learned a lot. I can now make bootanimations in samsung format and I have a basic knowledge of themes, and decompiling and recompile apks. But really you just need to know how to save your tablet from bootloops and install custom roms/recoveries.
I'm hoping someone can give me the general consensus on whether flashing ROMS for this device vs staying on stock is best. I'm not currently up on the state of Samsung bloatware, if it's gotten better or worse. I found an open box at BB for $300. I'd say excellent condition. I'm getting it for my 12 year old daughter. I suppose the main concern is the general stability of flashing, say Lineage, and the lag that Samsung has, or at least used to have, as they age.
Thanks much!
orangepowerpokes said:
I'm hoping someone can give me the general consensus on whether flashing ROMS for this device vs staying on stock is best. I'm not currently up on the state of Samsung bloatware, if it's gotten better or worse. I found an open box at BB for $300. I'd say excellent condition. I'm getting it for my 12 year old daughter. I suppose the main concern is the general stability of flashing, say Lineage, and the lag that Samsung has, or at least used to have, as they age.
Thanks much!
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If I was going to use the tablet myself, I'd certainly flash a custom ROM and get root access. But for a 12yr old girl, I'd stay with stock and know she'd be getting the latest security updates. It's not like this was an 8 or 16gb tablet where getting rid of bloatware would be a major concern. It has plenty of storage and RAM to handle that. Just my two bits.
I only hand my son tablets / phones that can run custom ROMs (Lineage in particular). This way I can control what goes on them, what software, what he sees. I guess you could do similar things with a rooted stock device, but still. The other half of that is, most of the devices I give my son are old enough they aren't getting security updates from the manufacturers anymore. In those cases the only way to get security updates of any sort is to run custom ROMs.
Having rooted my tablet and also installed twrp I would certainly not do it for someone else to use
I would suggest buying package disabler pro and disabling all bloatware and Bixby.
When you use 'disable bloatware' on package disabler, it disables storage on sd card. So you just need to look through the disabled list and re-enable external storage.
Other than that small bug it is excellent.
ExTall said:
Having rooted my tablet and also installed twrp I would certainly not do it for someone else to use
I would suggest buying package disabler pro and disabling all bloatware and Bixby.
When you use 'disable bloatware' on package disabler, it disables storage on sd card. So you just need to look through the disabled list and re-enable external storage.
Other than that small bug it is excellent.
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Have you noticed a performance improvement? I see that it is slow for ordinary use such as social networks, the web and reading books.
miangelgabriel said:
Have you noticed a performance improvement? I see that it is slow for ordinary use such as social networks, the web and reading books.
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I can't really say as I installed package disabler pro when I first had the tablet as I hate apps like bixby.
My tablet has always seemed plenty fast to me
Regards Extall
Not much bloatware on One UI.
Sent from my SM-T720 using Tapatalk
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Have you noticed a performance improvement? I see that it is slow for ordinary use such as social networks, the web and reading books.
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I have read books with $29 dollar chinese knockoffs. How long does it take to turn a page? My very first tablet had an Antutu of about 900. This one about 185,000. I was still able to "surf the net" with that first one. They say that beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I'm beginning to doubt that. I think it is in the MIND of the beholder. How anyone can consider this tablet slow for surfing or social networking, just blows my mind. "OH, but my latest and greatest iPad is just SOOO much better."
I can't remember having an Android device since my OG Droid that I didn't root and flash. I'm going to skip that for this S5e, for the first time. Everything I do with it these days, my head isn't bumping into it's 'ceiling', so to speak. My SM-T580 was a different story (thank goodness for @followmsi and @srgrussso among others), and custom paid off very well.
Then again, maybe I'm just getting old.:laugh: :highfive:
orangepowerpokes said:
I'm hoping someone can give me the general consensus on whether flashing ROMS for this device vs staying on stock is best. I'm not currently up on the state of Samsung bloatware, if it's gotten better or worse. I found an open box at BB for $300. I'd say excellent condition. I'm getting it for my 12 year old daughter. I suppose the main concern is the general stability of flashing, say Lineage, and the lag that Samsung has, or at least used to have, as they age.
Thanks much!
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I have the Verizon LTE version and even with the Verizon preinstalled apps it doesn't take up a lot of space. I have the 64GB version and I had PLENTY of space for all of my apps. I put a 512GB microSD card in it so I don't have any space issues.
I rooted the SM-T725 few months ago when i got it but this was the 3rd time i had problems booting up and the twrp backup didn't work this time so i just cleaned it and i use stock now and i removed bloatware with ADB. I use only open source software no more google. But that just my way, if you want to root go with it but if its just to remove bloatware just use ADB.
Android 10 coming this june/july and probably android 11 will come to this tablet too because samsung does 2 major android updates to the device they release. If they don't you can unlock the bootloader and install android 11 in the future if a developer make it of course but i doubt it because galaxy tab s6 lite is coming soon so i don't know the future of this tablet.
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OhioYJ said:
I only hand my son tablets / phones that can run custom ROMs (Lineage in particular). This way I can control what goes on them, what software, what he sees. I guess you could do similar things with a rooted stock device, but still. The other half of that is, most of the devices I give my son are old enough they aren't getting security updates from the manufacturers anymore. In those cases the only way to get security updates of any sort is to run custom ROMs.
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Just got this SM-T720 & was planning on putting Lineage 17.1 (OFFICIAL) on it.
Got the firmware, Magisk, TWRP all downloaded.
But on TWRP's site it says you have to root before installing a "rooted TWRP" image?
What's with this?
Not asking for a full tutorial but seriously TWRP can't just be flashed in Odin then vbmeta multi-
disabler, WIPE, then flash ROM + Magisk?
Any help will be greatly appreciated. My posts elsewhere are days old & no replies....
zach
I just got this tablet yesterday. I've had several previous Android tablets and phones and I've always rooted them. So far, I haven't run into anything that makes me want to root this one. I was pleasantly surprised to find that there is a battery protection setting that allows you to limit charging to 85%. Normally, you have too root to do that. I may find a need to root somewhere down the road, but right now I'm hoping to get by with stock and unroofed.
Can you keep dex on other ROMs?
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Just got this SM-T720 & was planning on putting Lineage 17.1 (OFFICIAL) on it.
Got the firmware, Magisk, TWRP all downloaded
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I've done it a few times and I would recommend following the maintainers instructions, LuK1337's Instructions . Dont skip anything, dont add anything, dont wipe anything that isnt listed, follow them exactly.
This tablet is picky. Magisk can be flashed in TWRP, but from what Ive found many modules can't, they will make the tablet fail to boot. Most modules can only be flashed in Magisk. My recommendation would be to get it booting before adding modules or even Magisk for that matter.
I'm using mine as stock, and this seems plenty fast for the 2 weeks I've owned it. Slow to read books? That sounds like an app problem - moon reader on a 2018 Fire HD 8 didn't have a problem reading books. How slow is the Fire 8? If I was in plex, hit the home button, and started netflix it was about 10 seconds from the press of the home button until netflix was responsive.
Besides, do you really want to have to fix your kid's devices when they inevitably have a problem?
**Edit** I also have a question. Are there any security issues when flashing roms or rooting on this like with the phones with KNoX and not being able to use secure folder and such? Im guessing if I flash a ROM I'd also be losing access to this right? (samsung apps and secure folder) Thank you!
Ughh Im kind of regretting buying this tablet now..did I make a mistake? From what Ive seen on here, it sounds like its best not to root it. Ive found that on some newer devices, irts best not to root them to avoid unnecessary problems because some just dont work well with root and magisk, especially if a lot of the modules arent going to work. I mean I dont really have any reason to root this except for not being able to use / change the themes. I cant believe they dont have the theme store on this tablet! I'm so bummed thats one of the good things about samsung phone that I miss.