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Guys,
I picked up a second hand Nexus 7 yesterday for a really low price. I had no intention of a purchase but sometimes the price is so low you can't say no. :angel:
The N7 is currently on 5.1.1 and has very inconsistent performance. 1 action will be slow, then the next few quick. (1 day of usage after factory reset.)
I'm looking to give this tablet to my 9 year old nice and was wondering if stock 4.4.4 has better performance? As its for a 9 year old, I'm looking to keep everything totally stock.
Thanks in Advance. :highfive:
Honestly, my N7 ran fastest with the OS that originally came on the device, 4.1JB. Assuming you don't want to go back that far, 4.4.4 would be the next best choice.
There are a couple of good 5.1.1 custom Roms that are fairly smooth, but since you only want stock, stick with 4.4.4
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enriquejones666 said:
Honestly, my N7 ran fastest with the OS that originally came on the device, 4.1JB. Assuming you don't want to go back that far, 4.4.4 would be the next best choice.
There are a couple of good 5.1.1 custom Roms that are fairly smooth, but since you only want stock, stick with 4.4.4
Sent from my Nexus 7
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Thanks for the reply :highfive:
If I was going back further than 4.4.4, I'd probably go back to 4.2.2 as it really impressed me on the nexus 4.
Take your point about 4.4.4 being the best recent os though. How would you rate 5.1.1 if we would say that 4.4.4 is 100% speed?
Install cyanogenmod 11 (4.4). Best rom for nexus 7.
Gothic4 said:
Install cyanogenmod 11 (4.4). Best rom for nexus 7.
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If I was the user I'd take you up on that Gothic. Probably too many extra options for my nice though. Thanks anyway. :highfive:
Flash this ROM and u will be amazed with performance
http://forum.xda-developers.com/sho...[5.1.1_r14 LMY48M][SuperSU|BusyBox][15/09/26]
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Trimmer?
So far I have no idea why or how it works, but I followed some advice I read in this forum and installed a "trimmer" application. I manually started a "trim" operation, and after that the device became noticeably more responsive. Even in case that this is just a placebo effect, I am much more satisfied with the tablet than I have been before. You might just try it, the app comes with no cost, and if the device is usable afterwards, you can pass it to your nice niece. Otherwise you can try to install a different, or even older, operating system.
adeelraj has a point. It seems your main qualm about using a custom Rom is the complexity of its added features. BSZAospLP is pretty much stock AOSP, so it should behave pretty much like the stock ROM.
And Ahkah also has a point. My brother's N7 was exhibiting similar symptoms to yours. I formatted his /data and /cache partitions, and then ran that Trimmer app (root) and that fixed his random slowdowns problem.
Ahkah said:
So far I have no idea why or how it works, but I followed some advice I read in this forum and installed a "trimmer" application. I manually started a "trim" operation, and after that the device became noticeably more responsive. Even in case that this is just a placebo effect, I am much more satisfied with the tablet than I have been before. You might just try it, the app comes with no cost, and if the device is usable afterwards, you can pass it to your nice niece. Otherwise you can try to install a different, or even older, operating system.
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Thanks Ahkah,
I haven't used the Nexus 7 much since I bought it. Theoretically, the fs trim issue shouldn't impact performance yet. I've just found the performance being really inconsistent on 5.1.1. i.e. one command fast and smooth and the next has lag.
Someone is borrowing the tablet at the moment and I will probably try 4.4.4 when I get it back.
Masteryates said:
Take your point about 4.4.4 being the best recent os though. How would you rate 5.1.1 if we would say that 4.4.4 is 100% speed?
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Well, I heard enough bad things about the stock LP ROM, that I went straight to the XenonHD 5.1.1 ROM. I can tell you that outta the box (without making any speed optimizations), it was running at 85% the speed of my previous 4.4.4 ROM (SlimKat).
I had Lollipop on mine and Lollipop+3 years worth of junk=a BIG surprise. So I rolled it back to 4.4.4 and it was very, very smooth. Then flashed one of my backup zips for Lollipop (made when no apps were installed) and it was still laggy as hell.
So conclusion: Lollipop sucks ass on this thing.
Hey XDA community,
I currently have a DOPO 7" KitKat tablet from Walmart that I picked up for $20. (pathetic, I know) I bought it to play lightweight games, but it cant even handle Clash of clans without lagging. I was thinking of getting a Nexus 7 (2012) to play Clash, Fallout Shelter, Geo Dash, etc. Will the Nexus be fine handling these games?
Thanks!!:good:
hjterry said:
Hey XDA community,
I currently have a DOPO 7" KitKat tablet from Walmart that I picked up for $20. (pathetic, I know) I bought it to play lightweight games, but it cant even handle Clash of clans without lagging. I was thinking of getting a Nexus 7 (2012) to play Clash, Fallout Shelter, Geo Dash, etc. Will the Nexus be fine handling these games?
Thanks!!:good:
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You didn't specify if it's the 2012 or 2013 model. I have the 2012 model and I play CoC, Fallout Shelter, Game of War on it and it's fine. However, if you do get the 2012 model (which you'll have to get used I would think), do NOT upgrade it to Lollipop or Marshmallow. KitKat is the latest version that runs pretty darn smoothly on the old 2012 Nexus 7. Luckily, if you do get it that way, just down the official KK image from Google and it will unlock your bootloader and flash KK on it for you. That's the nice thing about the Nexus tablets is that you can unlock the bootloader via fastboot.
The current model, 2013, from what I've heard is much better with LP and maybe MM, but should run games just fine.
Heck, I've even played D&D Baldur's Gate Enhanced on it, thought that did lag at times under KK. I never tried it under LP or MM. Even without those games, LP and MM were terrible, even with no Facebook installed or anything. Within minutes, it would lag badly. I tried custom ROMs, etc. Nothing seemed to fix the lagging except to go back to KK and things were smooth as silk then.
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You didn't specify if it's the 2012 or 2013 model. I have the 2012 model and I play CoC, Fallout Shelter, Game of War on it and it's fine. However, if you do get the 2012 model (which you'll have to get used I would think), do NOT upgrade it to Lollipop or Marshmallow. KitKat is the latest version that runs pretty darn smoothly on the old 2012 Nexus 7. Luckily, if you do get it that way, just down the official KK image from Google and it will unlock your bootloader and flash KK on it for you. That's the nice thing about the Nexus tablets is that you can unlock the bootloader via fastboot.
The current model, 2013, from what I've heard is much better with LP and maybe MM, but should run games just fine.
Heck, I've even played D&D Baldur's Gate Enhanced on it, thought that did lag at times under KK. I never tried it under LP or MM. Even without those games, LP and MM were terrible, even with no Facebook installed or anything. Within minutes, it would lag badly. I tried custom ROMs, etc. Nothing seemed to fix the lagging except to go back to KK and things were smooth as silk then.
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I'm using Pure Nexus rom (Marshmallow) with parrotmod (this mod made my N7 usable again) and installed facebook,, messenger,, asphalt and about 60 other apps all working fine without lag. just install parrotmod and you can run Android N lol
iBolski said:
You didn't specify if it's the 2012 or 2013 model. I have the 2012 model and I play CoC, Fallout Shelter, Game of War on it and it's fine. However, if you do get the 2012 model (which you'll have to get used I would think), do NOT upgrade it to Lollipop or Marshmallow. KitKat is the latest version that runs pretty darn smoothly on the old 2012 Nexus 7. Luckily, if you do get it that way, just down the official KK image from Google and it will unlock your bootloader and flash KK on it for you. That's the nice thing about the Nexus tablets is that you can unlock the bootloader via fastboot.
The current model, 2013, from what I've heard is much better with LP and maybe MM, but should run games just fine.
Heck, I've even played D&D Baldur's Gate Enhanced on it, thought that did lag at times under KK. I never tried it under LP or MM. Even without those games, LP and MM were terrible, even with no Facebook installed or anything. Within minutes, it would lag badly. I tried custom ROMs, etc. Nothing seemed to fix the lagging except to go back to KK and things were smooth as silk then.
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Thanks for telling me, helped me out a lot And I did specify the 2012 model.. lol
"I was thinking of getting a Nexus 7 (2012)"
Thanks, though! Might go buy a N7 2012
hjterry said:
Thanks for telling me, helped me out a lot And I did specify the 2012 model.. lol
"I was thinking of getting a Nexus 7 (2012)"
Thanks, though! Might go buy a N7 2012
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DUH! I feel SO stupid now! LOL.
In any case, definitely if you want it for some of the older games like you specified, it will work. Just do not, like I stated, upgrade it to Lollipop nor Marshmallow. Keep it on KitKat.
You can download any of the official images from here:
https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images
iBolski said:
DUH! I feel SO stupid now! LOL.
In any case, definitely if you want it for some of the older games like you specified, it will work. Just do not, like I stated, upgrade it to Lollipop nor Marshmallow. Keep it on KitKat.
You can download any of the official images from here:
https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images
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Thanks again I also bought you ad-free XDA as a gift for helping me out.
(might take a few days before you get it, transfered through PayPal bank account.)
enjoy
Ammar_Hamdan said:
I'm using Pure Nexus rom (Marshmallow) with parrotmod (this mod made my N7 usable again) and installed facebook,, messenger,, asphalt and about 60 other apps all working fine without lag. just install parrotmod and you can run Android N lol
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I might have to try that. I used a MM ROM that was supposed to work well, but Game of War, which already is a pretty inefficiently programmed app, ran like it was stuck in melted marshmallows. Rebooting, clearing cache, etc helped for about a minute, but then the device would come to a crawl.
Since downgrading back to KK, things are smooth for days, then I have to reboot which was normal operating procedure for this device. My LG G3 running MM rarely needs rebooting. I've gone over a month with having to reboot it.
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I might have to try that. I used a MM ROM that was supposed to work well, but Game of War, which already is a pretty inefficiently programmed app, ran like it was stuck in melted marshmallows. Rebooting, clearing cache, etc helped for about a minute, but then the device would come to a crawl.
Since downgrading back to KK, things are smooth for days, then I have to reboot which was normal operating procedure for this device. My LG G3 running MM rarely needs rebooting. I've gone over a month with having to reboot it.
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Same here I suffered the lag of lollipop and MM ROMs my tablet was unusable for months I wasn't even able to run facebook.. I had to wait couple of seconds just to open settings menu, but after using PN ROM + Parrotmod now my Nexus 7 is flying...
Just don't forget to install parrotmod coz this mod is the solution of all issues.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nex...arrotmod-speed-2012-nexus-7-emmc-fix-t3300416
My current phone, HTC M8 has almost died on me. The speakers are shot and to be honest the battery is getting worse, it really isn't worth fixing considering it's beaten up condition.
For now I need speakers, so I'm thinking of digging out my mint condition Nexus 4. It is unlocked etc so it is ready for flashing away. The last rom on it was the fantastic Mahdi rom, but of course that was Kitkat.
I hate asking the best rom question, it's done to death and annoys people. So I'll ask a different way!!!
Would I be correct to assume Lollipop roms are likely the most stable, battery efficient roms or is the consensus that Kitkat was better? I won't mention Marshmallow as it's not "official". Oh wait, I just did!
Thank you.
Purenexus or chroma are very stable on marshmallow.
Thanks for that, will take a look later.
It will be like stepping back time firing up the old Nexus. Still a fantastic piece of hardware, quite ahead of it's time back then I think.
I would also recommend Chroma, Marshmallow works really well on the Nexus 4 even if it is not officially released for that device. I wouldn't go back to a previous version.
About Pure Nexus, personally I've had some issues with it. If I remember well it was Bluetooth audio playback stutettering and/or frequent WiFi disconnections. It was an older version however. Maybe it is fixed now.
Unfortunately, the developer is only going to be releasing one more update to Chroma for the Nexus 4 and that is it, so it doesn't make sense to install it . I am currently on Chroma and love it, so that is a shame. I think I am going to go with CM13 next.
After enjoying a 64gb storage phone, I just realised my old N4 was only an 8gb. That said, I don't recall ever running out of space. I don't do music, install many apps or store much junk such as pics so I might get away with it. I simply need a working phone for talk, text, mobile web etc.
Dirty Unicorns is a solid ROM..
For marshmallow I recommend Pure Nexus. The best I've used performance, stability and battery life wise, was Purity kitkat.
I would recmend Sailfish OS + sfdroid. You can run android apps and have the best multitasking out there. Sailfish OS is almost pure linux on your phone. It's faster then android and without sfdroid and google apps does not drain battery. You will have amazing battery life with just sailfish os on your nexus 4. Trust me i have nexus 4 with Sailfish OS only. It does 4 hour SOT at least with full day battery life.
Thanks for all the advice. The old N4 is now up and running, with the latest Pure Nexus. All is well, although it will take some getting used to not having bass speakers from the htc!
Good to have a working phone again. Hope it lasts a while until I can afford another phone or get my htc repaired. Might have a play around with different roms.
Anyone still on Kitkat?
Chroma, installed it in both my mom and brother nexus, no problem whatsoever.
The ROM isn't the only thing you can do to make the N4 up to "modern standards".
My advice is to find a ROM you like. I use DirtyUnicorns since it stills get updated regularly (but it sucks because they recommend you clean flash each time).
Next, flash the HellSpawn kernel (and control it with the Kernel Aduitor app, from the play store).
Then go find the latest Viper4Android app and flash that. This will boost your sound performance immensely (seriously, it's like a different phone) - note, if you get audio bugs then just increase performance in the kernel.
Finally, get some nice icon themes or layers so you can make it as you want it.
(for more advanced stuff, you can flash xposed as well and add some nice modules to improve the look and usage of the phone).
Oh, and AdAway!
Hi. Just wondering if you guys could update me on which ROM would be the best to go for to revive a couple of old nexus' for the kids to use for browsing, YouTube and a few games
I've hunted around a fair bit and settled on a 4.4.4 index build followed by mkernel a69 then upsated to faux123 kernel for tweaking??
Or are there any gems I'm missing. Maybe a install and forget ROM?
Thanks in advance
Sam
I still have my old 7 running, but compared to even older phones I still keep here its a pain to use, especially with games.
I think the lack of RAM (1GB is installed only) is the issue and this cannot be improved.
I'm thinking of making some decent use by using it as a web radio player - but I kind of lack the use for one.
I really liked the size for browsing the web, but it has become too slow for me.
However I will try this now:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-7/development/rom-android-7-aosp-grouper-t3467514
maybe it proves me wrong
I was able to reimage mine from the 5.0.2 (or whatever the highest stock os was) to the better-running 4.4.4 by following a video on youtube from mojolevel.
There doesn't appear to be much activity on this forum or in any of the custom ROMs for this device. I'm sad that it's stuck on Marshmallow (I know Nougat ROMs exist, but in my experience they were too unstable to use) when Android 11 is about to drop, and that GNU/Linux is not available for it. With the newest builds I can find being from mid 2019 and the Linux kernel stuck on an unsupported version, I just don't trust it to be secure any more, so I'm now using it mostly airgapped, and only on a trusted firewalled network when I absolutely must use the wi-fi.
In order to get some idea of how much hope there is, I'd like to know if anyone has a guess for how many of these are still in service.
I have one that I play with from time to time but mostly just email. I still have one brand new in a box that we never used as we got it as part of a promotion. I've thought about it using it with my OBD2 connector to troubleshoot the cars.
I got 3 of it, grandparents using 2 of them and Im using the last one for reading and surfing web.
Me! My father bought it back like in 2013 and haven't used it much until last year. Then he gave it to me and I was pumped cause never really had a tabled. I discovered how comfortable are they to read/surf/watch YouTube.
I flashed it with Lineage and later Unlegacy, both at android 7.1. I must say when it functions correctly, it FLIES!! I can watch YT videos at 720 no problems and the pictures look great, very nice colors!
Unfortunately it hangs often, like there's a hidden process of the OS causing problems. It heats the hell out of the CPU and resetting doesn't seem to solve it, but eventually goes away and comes back to normal. It expends like 60% of the time functioning right and the other 40% overheating and hanging up. It also drops wifi intermittently.
Even with all those problems I refuse to let it go. Mine is almost new, and as I said I love how the screen looks despite it's resolution. I wish I could get an stable release in 7.1 so I can squeeze the rest of it's life out of it.
Lineage is not being ported anymore by AndroidAndi and Unlegacy project seems dead as well. Im lost here, if somebody can point me to a stable release I could use for the things I do with it, that would be AWESOME! (EDIT: Will try out AICP)
You mentioned AICP, which I haven't heard of before. Is that still maintained for it?
I still have a working one and use it accasionally for movies. Now I am looking for a "newer" stable ROM, at the moment it has cyanogen mod 13.0-201618 nightly
I don't think there ever was anything stable other than KitKat. I'm using an unofficial nightly Omnirom marshmallow build from early 2019. There are Nougat nightly roms, but I've found them to be too slow to use.
I still have a tab 2. i dont ever use it but its a good backup device. i messed around with it the first time i started running custom roms on androids. i put a couple different roms like cyanogen mod. but went back to stock and havent touched it since that was like 2014. now im trying to run the latest version of lineage os to make it faster and more stable as the stock/custom rom was very unstable.
I just turned mine on and see I'm running slim-4.44 build. Sucks cause lots of stuff doesn't work on it. Netflix isn't even supported.
Is there another rom that can be loaded that's better to get better functionality? I know this is super old hardware. Email pretty much is fine but seems silly to just use this for email. Hate to throw it out because it's in immaculate condition...lol
-Nigel
NewShockerGuy said:
I just turned mine on and see I'm running slim-4.44 build. Sucks cause lots of stuff doesn't work on it. Netflix isn't even supported.
Is there another rom that can be loaded that's better to get better functionality? I know this is super old hardware. Email pretty much is fine but seems silly to just use this for email. Hate to throw it out because it's in immaculate condition...lol
-Nigel
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Yes, folks, this is old hardware but its not acceptable to ditch is just because its hard. We'll never move to a more sustainable economy is we can recycle old hardware. They work that you guys do with custom ROMs is awesome as you are doing your bit to not fill landfills. It would be good to know if there is still a relatively recent ROM for the Galaxy Tab 2 that is still maintained.
Hi all, I'm using unlegacy Android based on Android 7.1 and I suggest you to use it
I suggest you to not flash gapps (they're too much resources intensive). I'm currently using it with L speed set everything on performance (don't fuss with ram manager settings because it crashes) and with Firefox preview ( the fastest and most stable for this tablet IMO) downloaded from apkpure
lukigno95 said:
Hi all, I'm using unlegacy Android based on Android 7.1 and I suggest you to use it
I suggest you to not flash gapps (they're too much resources intensive). I'm currently using it with L speed set everything on performance (don't fuss with ram manager settings because it crashes) and with Firefox preview ( the fastest and most stable for this tablet IMO) downloaded from apkpure
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Hello,
Which unlegacy build are you using for your tablet? There was a build from July 2019, and it seemed to have security patch as of 7/5/2019. Unfortunately, I saw it too late on jenkins, and it isn't available for download anymore (probably because I don't know how to download older artifacts from jenkins).
I have a P5113 10.1 WiFi, and I'm using unlegacy asop 6.0.1 build as of February 2019 since I couldn't get 7.1 to get pass the setup wizard, probably because of gapps as you suggested.
ME! I still use P3100 model it is fine but it is lagging a lot these days . I'm using slim os 4.4. Anybody can suggest a smooth ROM for the Device.
Thanks
Just received one from my nephew to keep the kids busy... watching yt , uh quietly...
Kept my head busy thinking if any good ROM would be available.
Good to know there are possibilities.
I have one too.
Thanks to Android-Andi it's up and running again.
Thanks again Andi.
Yeah after so many attempts , I have now managed to make it usable.
Previously I was using crDroid rom (marshmallow) with gapps. But it was so laggy that I couldn't do anything ( literally anything). Now after doing some research I have chosen unified lineage OS 14 ( 7.0) from Android Andi's website. I am now using unified Twrp ( not the official one) also from Andi's website. And flashed a custom overclocked kernel. This time I am not using gapps ( very resource heavy). And using "NEW PIPE" for YouTube streaming. And rooted with magisk and flashed "Oxygen OS sounds" from magisk modules. Now I can watch YouTube videos 720p without any lag. This device flies now...??
I have 1
I bought one for a microbiology class because it was cheaper to buy a digital copy and the tablet than to buy the book. It was a new book with no previous editions, so I had to. I never really had to use it for classes again, I prefer a book over the tablet. It has been sitting around untouched for a bit, I think the last time I used it Hulu or Netflix no longer had a compatible app version for android 4. I can't remember how much I paid for it, but I feel like it got slow and they quit pushing out updates not long after I bought it. I decided to pull it out and play around with it. It is not doing much, so if I mess it up by rooting it, I won't be too upset. Trying to find the best way to do this. I have also seen some information about LineageOS.
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There doesn't appear to be much activity on this forum or in any of the custom ROMs for this device. I'm sad that it's stuck on Marshmallow (I know Nougat ROMs exist, but in my experience they were too unstable to use) when Android 11 is about to drop, and that GNU/Linux is not available for it. With the newest builds I can find being from mid 2019 and the Linux kernel stuck on an unsupported version, I just don't trust it to be secure any more, so I'm now using it mostly airgapped, and only on a trusted firewalled network when I absolutely must use the wi-fi.
In order to get some idea of how much hope there is, I'd like to know if anyone has a guess for how many of these are still in service.
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still own one but its slow , not as slow as my old ipad 3 which is useless now
In the name of GOD?.....Hi do you know what's custom ROM is best?slim6 2017
Still using this tablet for surfing, videos with RR rom. Quite happy with that.