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[Q] CM11 Problem.. Help Needed

Hi all,
I am interested in the CM11 ROM. Last night I spent 6hrs trying and failed, epically.
Here is what I did already:
1. Downgraded from 4.4.2 back to factory
2. Successfully rooted
3. Installed ROM Manager
4. Successfully downloaded CM11 and latest GApps
Then when I tried to boot into recovery it kept going to a screen with a little android guy lying on his back with a red triangle!!! I tried six times.
I got frustrated and just updated back to 4.4.2 and have been dealing with it. I am still rooted and have been able to remove my bloatware and other things you need root access for.
Any thoughts or help as to how I can install the CM11 rom?? I am happy running NovaLauncher and using DynamicNotifications to approximate it but really want to try out CM11.
Cheers and thanks!

Lucky there is no way to root on 4.4.2 yet or atleast no Recovery's yet it could be worse you're atleast rooted and it didn't brick your phone
Sent from my VS980 4G using Tapatalk

Did you actually try flashing a recovery first? Just installing ROM manager won't install the custom recovery needed to flash ROMs. You have to do that step as well.

JRJ442 said:
Did you actually try flashing a recovery first? Just installing ROM manager won't install the custom recovery needed to flash ROMs. You have to do that step as well.
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No, I didn't. I am super new with android. Had an iphone for a long time. How do I flash a recover? Can I still do it now on 4.4.2 b/c its rooted?
Sorry about the noob questions, everyone is being very helpful!

follow this step..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2681205

android_nashville said:
No, I didn't. I am super new with android. Had an iphone for a long time. How do I flash a recover? Can I still do it now on 4.4.2 b/c its rooted?
Sorry about the noob questions, everyone is being very helpful!
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LG blocked the Loki exploit with 4.4.2 so you can't flash recoveries currently. You'd have to flash back to 4.2.2 to do that. Which if you want custom ROMs now its going to have to be done sooner or later. Which carrier and model number do you have? If you have an international D802 the above post by @zekurosu will work for you, otherwise don't use that one. You're gonna have to find the method for your model number.

My first guess was that you missed the flashing the custom recovery step, which people above me have already helped ya out on. For being new to Android you did fairly well, you just missed that one step.
Good luck!

JRJ442 said:
LG blocked the Loki exploit with 4.4.2 so you can't flash recoveries currently. You'd have to flash back to 4.2.2 to do that. Which if you want custom ROMs now its going to have to be done sooner or later. Which carrier and model number do you have? If you have an international D802 the above post by @zekurosu will work for you, otherwise don't use that one. You're gonna have to find the method for your model number.
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thanks, forgot to mention it was only for D802 :good:

zekurosu said:
thanks, forgot to mention it was only for D802 :good:
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I have an ATT D800 running 4.4.2. I can't decide whether its worth it to flash back to 4.2.2 to try again. Pretty happy with NovaLauncher + widgetlocke and fairly closely approximates what I am looking for.
For what its worth, I was in 4.2.2 when I tried the first time and failed. I think mackster is right, I didn't flash the custom recovery. I basically flashed back to 4.2.2->rooted->tried to boot into recovery (OVER and OVER) then gave up and upgraded back to 4.4.2.
Thanks for all the help. At least I now have a rooted phone and have been able to do some cool stuff with that. My goal is to get nexus 5 software in an LG G2 body (battery, camera, etc)

@android_nashville There's a way to have the best of both worlds. You can flash back to 4.2.2 (10d preferably) root, flash a custom recovery with Flashify or FreeGee. Both available on the play store. Then actually update to 4.4.2 following this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2483043. Eventually, if you want to flash custom ROMs you're going to have flash back to 4.2.2 and do this process regardless. The 4.4 aboot image (bootloader) can't be bypassed with Loki. Its been blocked. But some brilliant devs basically found out they can make a hybrid setup, with the 4.2.2 aboot, and everything else 4.4.2. This way you can have the ability to flash custom recovery, kernels and ROMs.

WARNING: Android 5.0 Bootloader and KitKat Compatibility

Android 5.0 (Lollipop) Bootloader and KitKat Compatibility​
Everyone wants Lollipop, however it is worth considering some of the possible consequences of upgrading via OTA update.​
Flashable zip of Android 5.0.2 'Soak Test' now available and boots with KitKat Bootloader: http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g/development/rom-retail-brazil-lollipop-soak-test-t2998793
Downgrading to KitKat also possible even with Lollipop Bootloader.
Bootloader:
A new Bootloader (BL) will almost certainly be is included in the OTA update. It is also very likely no KitKat Kernel, stock or custom will be able to boot properly with the 5.0 BL. Perhaps the Kernel DEVs can find a workaround.
Root: (DONE)
It may take some time to gain root access on Lollipop as on other devices this has required a custom Kernel. A custom kernel itself may require kernel sources to be released - something that has taken weeks / months in the past.
Chainfire releases Android 5.0 Root for Moto G (2013) (All Models)
In addition; apps that use root access in KitKat, require further development to have functional root access in Lollipop.
Xposed Framework:
Developer has said he will wait for CyanogenMod based on Lollipop before properly starting development of an ART version of Xposed. CM12 may take a few weeks to release. Expect to do without Xposed for at least a month, probably longer since root is also required (see above.) Related: Alternatives to popular Xposed Modules
Custom Recovery:
This has not been an issue before, but it is always possible a new Bootloader could break compatibility with existing Custom Recoveries. Obviously, you would not be able to restore a CWM / TWRP backup without a functional custom recovery; but even then, it is unlikely you will [not] be able to boot your KitKat backup. CWM unaffected, TWRP not fully supported yet.
Custom ROMs:
This is another area that could be affected by a new Bootloader. It is unknown if existing custom ROMs will require new Kernels / system changes in order to work with the new BL - something that could take days, weeks or months. CyanogenMod 12 (Lollipop) for Moto G (Falcon) now available and does not appear to require a new BL.
Performance:
Currently the performance difference between KitKat and Lollipop is unknown. If the first release of Lollipop for Moto G has performance issues, you may be unable to revert back to stock KitKat.​Possible solution:
Wait for a flashable zip [NOT OTA Update zip] of Stock Moto G Lollipop ROM - this would mean your Bootloader remains at it's current version and potentially allowing you to change 'back and forth' between Stock KitKat and Stock Lollipop. However, it is currently unknown if the newer BL is a requirement for Android 5.0 Kernels. Flashable zip of Android 5.0.2 'Soak Test' now available and boots with KitKat Bootloader.

That is what I thought, since something like that happened because of the upgrade from JB to KK. Taking all of this into account, I'm not sure to upgrade immediately when the OTA comes out, maybe I'll try to still alive waiting for reviews from someone who dares to OTA right then.

You can be pretty sure it'll bring a bootloader update too because of all the fundamental changes lollipop brings in almost all areas of the OS. Major relase, as was gingerbread -> ICS.
It's pretty safe to say that once you upgrade, it won't be easy to downgrade, if at all possible... Many changes are in the security area and everything is getting tightened up a lot... Loads of tempting things we'll get in this upgrade, yes, but we'll have to give up much of what we're used to (in terms of rooting/etc), at least for a little while. I'll also wait until the dust settles a bit and it's clearer on where we stand with the upgrade once it gets released.

nice info

lost101 said:
Android 5.0 Bootloader and KitKat Compatibility​
Everyone wants Lollipop, however it is worth considering some of the possible consequences of upgrading via OTA update.
Bootloader:
A new Bootloader (BL) will almost certainly be included in the OTA update. It is also very likely no KitKat Kernel, stock or custom will be able to boot properly with the 5.0 BL. Perhaps the kernel DEVs can find a workaround.
Root:
It may take some time to gain root access on Lolipop as on other devices this has required a custom Kernel. A custom kernel itself may require kernel sources to be released - something that has taken weeks / months in the past.
Custom Recovery:
This has not been an issue before, but it is always possible a new Bootloader could break compatibility with existing Custom Recoveries.
Performance:
Currently the performance difference between KitKat and Lollipop is unknown. If the first release of Lollipop has performance issues on Moto G, you may be unable to revert back to stock KitKat.
Alternative solution:
Wait for a flashable zip of Stock Moto G Lollipop ROM - this would mean your Bootloader remains at it's current version and potentially allowing you to change between Stock KitKat and Stock Lollipop. However, it is currently unknown if the newer BL is a requirement for Android 5.0 Kernels.
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UUUUUUHHHHHHHH iam afraight. a little. who needs bootloaders. i dont.

juanchotazo99 said:
You can be pretty sure it'll bring a bootloader update too because of all the fundamental changes lollipop brings in almost all areas of the OS. Major relase, as was gingerbread -> ICS.
It's pretty safe to say that once you upgrade, it won't be easy to downgrade, if at all possible... Many changes are in the security area and everything is getting tightened up a lot... Loads of tempting things we'll get in this upgrade, yes, but we'll have to give up much of what we're used to (in terms of rooting/etc), at least for a little while. I'll also wait until the dust settles a bit and it's clearer on where we stand with the upgrade once it gets released.
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Will you be able to wait when you see that little notification saying there's a new system update awaiting you?? I'll eat my nails until then!

Can i still get the OTA update even though my bootloader is unlocked and rooted? (Kitkat 4.4.4.)

Drift0r said:
Can i still get the OTA update even though my bootloader is unlocked and rooted? (Kitkat 4.4.4.)
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I don't think so....

Drift0r said:
Can i still get the OTA update even though my bootloader is unlocked and rooted? (Kitkat 4.4.4.)
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Bootloader doesn't matter. Root doesn't matter. What does matter is the software on your phone that checks for OTA updates. As long as that is functioning; you will get the notification.
You can ignore the update notification and will not be forced to install it.

Drift0r said:
Can i still get the OTA update even though my bootloader is unlocked and rooted? (Kitkat 4.4.4.)
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The only real thing you need to install the OTA is stock recovery, doesnt matter bootloader or root, only stock recovery to install the OTA! :good:

As always, very informative thread @lost101.

lost101 said:
Bootloader doesn't matter. Root doesn't matter. What does matter is the software on your phone that checks for OTA updates. As long as that is functioning; you will get the notification.
You can ignore the update notification and will not be forced to install it.
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MarckozZ said:
The only real thing you need to install the OTA is stock recovery, doesnt matter bootloader or root, only stock recovery to install the OTA! :good:
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How do I know what recovery I am on? I entered recovery and it is like this http://i.gyazo.com/1c3fa4923e85db7042ad6e36b97a31cc.png then when I click recovery on that screen I am on CWM, does that mean I can't or can do it?
Also I am not using any roms or anything, just rooted it for Xposed.

Drift0r said:
How do I know what recovery I am on? I entered recovery and it is like this http://i.gyazo.com/1c3fa4923e85db7042ad6e36b97a31cc.png then when I click recovery on that screen I am on CWM, does that mean I can't or can do it?
Also I am not using any roms or anything, just rooted it for Xposed.
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You need stock recovery and rid of xposedand any modules

MarckozZ said:
The only real thing you need to install the OTA is stock recovery, doesnt matter bootloader or root, only stock recovery to install the OTA! :good:
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And another real thing is pure/stock system. Which means no system apps were deleted or frizzed no mods were installed through custom recovery no custom kernels no luckyputcher stuff. And I think you have to delete xposed framework (manually via xposed installer).
And a lot of users think that it's enough just to flash back stock recovery and install ota. But then they are just wondering why is it can not install. So, untouched system block is mandatory for applying ota as well as stock recovery.
Root, unlocked bootloader and custom boot logo are things you could keep.

Is stock recovery and stock firmware same? If not how do i get stock recovery back?

S0bes said:
And another real thing is pure/stock system. Which means no system apps were deleted or frizzed no mods were installed through custom recovery no custom kernels no luckyputcher stuff. And I think you have to delete xposed framework (manually via xposed installer).
And a lot of users think that it's enough just to flash back stock recovery and install ota. But then they are just wondering why is it can not install. So, untouched system block is mandatory for applying ota as well as stock recovery.
Root, unlocked bootloader and custom boot logo are things you could keep.
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How about if you are using Adaway?
I know this will change something to the file hosts.
Do you need to get this original hosts file as well?

Drift0r said:
How do I know what recovery I am on? I entered recovery and it is like this http://i.gyazo.com/1c3fa4923e85db7042ad6e36b97a31cc.png then when I click recovery on that screen I am on CWM, does that mean I can't or can do it?
Also I am not using any roms or anything, just rooted it for Xposed.
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I'd reccomend to you this: when the OTA comes up, restore stock 4.4.2 firmware, then OTA to 4.4.4 and then to 5.0... Or if you find a 4.4.4 firmware just flash it and then OTA to 5.0... But the best you could do is to install the Lollipop OTA in a fresh new installed system.
S0bes said:
And another real thing is pure/stock system. Which means no system apps were deleted or frizzed no mods were installed through custom recovery no custom kernels no luckyputcher stuff. And I think you have to delete xposed framework (manually via xposed installer).
And a lot of users think that it's enough just to flash back stock recovery and install ota. But then they are just wondering why is it can not install. So, untouched system block is mandatory for applying ota as well as stock recovery.
Root, unlocked bootloader and custom boot logo are things you could keep.
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Yes, maybe the best thing is to backup everything and restore all things to stock... then OTA to Lollipop... :good:

MarckozZ said:
I'd reccomend to you this: when the OTA comes up, restore stock 4.4.2 firmware, then OTA to 4.4.4 and then to 5.0... Or if you find a 4.4.4 firmware just flash it and then OTA to 5.0... But the best you could do is to install the Lollipop OTA in a fresh new installed system.
Yes, maybe the best thing is to backup everything and restore all things to stock... then OTA to Lollipop... :good:
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Almost always it is enough to flash only system img files without erasing userdara. It should rewrite system block so it becames stock

MarckozZ said:
I'd reccomend to you this: when the OTA comes up, restore stock 4.4.2 firmware, then OTA to 4.4.4 and then to 5.0... Or if you find a 4.4.4 firmware just flash it and then OTA to 5.0... But the best you could do is to install the Lollipop OTA in a fresh new installed system.
Yes, maybe the best thing is to backup everything and restore all things to stock... then OTA to Lollipop... :good:
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How do I restore it to 4.4.3? Im currently downloading this file to flash via mfastboot RET-EU-SS_4.4.3_KXB21.14-L1.31_cid7_CFC_1FF.xml.zip from this guide. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2542219 would this work?
my phone moto g 4g lte - xt1039

Drift0r said:
How do I restore it to 4.4.3? Im currently downloading this file to flash via mfastboot RET-EU-SS_4.4.3_KXB21.14-L1.31_cid7_CFC_1FF.xml.zip from this guide. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2542219 would this work?
my phone moto g 4g lte - xt1039
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You can try the guide I've done with some help from other users here at XDA...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g/general/guide-restore-moto-firmware-gpe-t2914884

AT&T D850 Lollipop has been pushed!

Ermagerd. OTA is live. Just tested myself by unfreezing software update and checking ota. Large file. 683 mb. C'mon rooty goodness

Sorry, its been years since I last rooted a phone. If I'm rooted I cannot do the OTA right? I would have to have a custom recovery and flash it like that right?

Turb0wned said:
Sorry, its been years since I last rooted a phone. If I'm rooted I cannot do the OTA right? I would have to have a custom recovery and flash it like that right?
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That's correct. You can follow the return to stock method to go back to stock unrooted and ota but doing so may result in you not being able to root as there is no root method for 5.0 yet. Either wait for stock rooted to be posted by one of your awesome devs (should be soon. they are usually quick to offer stock rooted ota pkgs) or go straight stock. Since I read news today that xposed is going live for lollipop soon I am going to wait for stock rooted ota.

BreakingVZW said:
That's correct. You can follow the return to stock method to go back to stock unrooted and ota but doing so may result in you not being able to root as there is no root method for 5.0 yet. Either wait for stock rooted to be posted by one of your awesome devs (should be soon. they are usually quick to offer stock rooted ota pkgs) or go straight stock. Since I read news today that xposed is going live for lollipop soon I am going to wait for stock rooted ota.
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Thank you! I'll wait, what's a few hours going to do! Hope battery life is improved!

Me too..!!
BreakingVZW said:
That's correct. You can follow the return to stock method to go back to stock unrooted and ota but doing so may result in you not being able to root as there is no root method for 5.0 yet. Either wait for stock rooted to be posted by one of your awesome devs (should be soon. they are usually quick to offer stock rooted ota pkgs) or go straight stock. Since I read news today that xposed is going live for lollipop soon I am going to wait for stock rooted ota.
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I am also thinking to wait for the rooted stock one to be posted... Currently on Illusion rom and its running great.. Some bugs, but can live with it until stock one arrives.. Good advise @BreakingVZW.. Thanks..

I unrooted and factory re-set the phone. Two different root checkers say I am not rooted. However, I get a message that I cannot update because a root is detected!!! Have tried 3 times now. Any help would be greatly appreciated!!!!!
LG-D850 D85010f on AT&T

Turb0wned said:
Thank you! I'll wait, what's a few hours going to do! Hope battery life is improved!
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Lol Idk if it will be only a couple of hours. That'd be nice but our devs have lives and do this stuff in their spare time. In theory they SHOULD be able to follow the same method devs from the international versions used to give users their rooted ota updates but sometimes it's just not that easy. This is the first US carrier release for the G3 so there may be security updates that weren't present in the international releases.

Spartanguy83 said:
I unrooted and factory re-set the phone. Two different root checkers say I am not rooted. However, I get a message that I cannot update because a root is detected!!! Have tried 3 times now. Any help would be greatly appreciated!!!!!
LG-D850 D85010f on AT&T
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You restored stock via flash tools ? That'd be a first I've heard of persistent root after a pure factory reset via that method. Did you get the green pass message when completed and all?

You may want to attempt a 10D flash instead of 10f. I never have issues restoring with 10d

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You restored stock via flash tools ? That'd be a first I've heard of persistent root after a pure factory reset via that method. Did you get the green pass message when completed and all?
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BreakingVZW said:
You may want to attempt a 10D flash instead of 10f. I never have issues restoring with 10d
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Yes I did. I found this (via a YouTube tutorial) that I am going to try. I post back!

An applicatin requires and update requested by google play services
When I click on this I just get the options of deactivate and open???

Camera API?
Does anyone know if the Lolipop update has the new Lolipop camera API?

Hope they will release it for d855 soon.

magikmichael said:
Hope they will release it for d855 soon.
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D855 got official lollipop a long time ago, it was the first G3 variant to receive it.

4ndroid99 said:
D855 got official lollipop a long time ago, it was the first G3 variant to receive it.
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Yes 5.0. But at&t got 5.0.1 if im not mistaking.
Yep it has: http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/0...rly-700mb-d85020f-update-packs-android-5-0-1/

it may be harder for ATT g3 to get a L flashable rom due to lack of KDZ for ATT devices.. where the international users can just split the KDZ and repack into zip.
if someone wants to send me an AT&T g3 I can make one though

autoprime said:
it may be harder for ATT g3 to get a L flashable rom due to lack of KDZ for ATT devices.. where the international users can just split the KDZ and repack into zip.
if someone wants to send me an AT&T g3 I can make one though
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So the method of pre-rooting won't work with D850 lollipop BC it uses tot? KitKat for our variant uses tot as well and they still got us a rooted ota 10f update. Most posts I've read about G3 lollipop (lg stock not aosp) have said in order to have root on Lollipop you have to be on KitKat to use the same exploit used on KitKat. Is that not a viable solution anymore? I actually like the lg stock ROM and features. If we can't root the stock g3 rom on lollipop I'm going to have to look into getting a nexus 6 and will sell this. Xposed is apparently up and running well with lollipop and I gotsta has me ma xposed.

How is the 5.0.1 update running? Hope that the D855 version will be releasing soon. I'm on 5.0 V20H version and it's runs great

AndroidCity said:
How is the 5.0.1 update running? Hope that the D855 version will be releasing soon. I'm on 5.0 V20H version and it's runs great
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Don't know. I want to OTA and all but I need root. I use many programs that require root and just not having the ability to remove bloatware is reason enough for me to wait for a rooted OTA. Really hope one of the devs can figure out how to make a flashable OTA zip.

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So the method of pre-rooting won't work with D850 lollipop BC it uses tot? KitKat for our variant uses tot as well and they still got us a rooted ota 10f update. Most posts I've read about G3 lollipop (lg stock not aosp) have said in order to have root on Lollipop you have to be on KitKat to use the same exploit used on KitKat. Is that not a viable solution anymore? I actually like the lg stock ROM and features. If we can't root the stock g3 rom on lollipop I'm going to have to look into getting a nexus 6 and will sell this. Xposed is apparently up and running well with lollipop and I gotsta has me ma xposed.
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10f had a rom because there was still root on 10f and you could backup system, boot and modem.
someone may have another solution worked out.. or even a tot to pull the files from. but it's not going to be as easy as it was previously due to no public root for L at the moment, the difficulty of getting a tot and lack of KDZ. Unfortunately I only have the T-Mobile version.. otherwise I'd be able to make one for you guys.

L Update

I'm sure I overlooked something but I'll ask anyway. Is it possible to update without losing root and having to reinstall modified TWRP 2.7.01?
Sent from my Nexus 6

Anyone have a flashable TWRP for it yet? That would be NICE
Sent from my Nexus 6

Which device?

VK810

Probably only one still on kk

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VK810
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Probably only one still on kk
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rfarrah said:
Took the OTA. Lost root. Trying to decide whether I need to root again.......
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713brianp27 said:
There's an official lollipop update for 8.3 VZW? Missed that
Sent from my Nexus 6
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I have managed to root the device but TWRP is not working on aboot 5.0.2. You can see the post links below.
It is merely few commands on 5.0.2 to run recovery by downgrading your aboot to 4.2.2 but then, Lollipop wouldn't start and you will need to reflash aboot 5.0.2.
So basically it is a choice between Lollipop rooted without recovery or Kitkat with root & recovery. I think we are not flashing anything as yet so it would not be much of a problem actually to not have a recovery. When we do need however, we can downgrade our aboot and flash twrp using loki and then flash the rom we want to.
Look into my guides for more details
http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g-pad-83/general/vk810-altev-complete-root-recovery-t3108260
http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g-pad-83/general/vk810-downgrade-required-t3116336

Yeah I recall rooting it first time. Pain. All the Loki this Loki that.. Asking bc I upgraded my KLTEVZW by way of a flashable zip (4.4.4-5.0). Thought it may be possible on G Pad?

How about you root and make a twrp backup. Win, win

713brianp27 said:
I'm sure I overlooked something but I'll ask anyway. Is it possible to update without losing root and having to reinstall modified TWRP 2.7.01?
Sent from my Nexus 6
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Check my ROM in my signature below, just flash the new official VK810 altev LG G Pad 8.3 35A_08 5.0.2 ROM from TWRP.
Also, questions should go in Q&A, not in General.

Hnk1 said:
I have managed to root the device but TWRP is not working on aboot 5.0.2. You can see the post links below.
It is merely few commands on 5.0.2 to run recovery by downgrading your aboot to 4.2.2 but then, Lollipop wouldn't start and you will need to reflash aboot 5.0.2.
So basically it is a choice between Lollipop rooted without recovery or Kitkat with root & recovery. I think we are not flashing anything as yet so it would not be much of a problem actually to not have a recovery. When we do need however, we can downgrade our aboot and flash twrp using loki and then flash the rom we want to.
Look into my guides for more details
http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g-pad-83/general/vk810-altev-complete-root-recovery-t3108260
http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g-pad-83/general/vk810-downgrade-required-t3116336
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Have you tried CWM? Rumor is there's a new TWRP that hasn't been released yet, for what ever reason.

No twrp to flash, yet?

713brianp27 said:
Have you tried CWM? Rumor is there's a new TWRP that hasn't been released yet, for what ever reason.
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It's not a rumour. It definitely exists. It won't matter what recovery you use or what version as to whether you need to swap aboot.img versions temporarily if you're running stock LG Lollipop, if that's what you're wondering. 4.2.2 aboot.img lets the custom recovery boot, anything newer doesn't. And stock LG Lollipop won't boot on the 4.2.2 aboot.img, so you have to swap the new 35A_08 5.0.2 aboot.img in to get the ROM to boot.
I'm guessing the dev who made the newest TWRP for the VK810.4G is waiting to release it to the public until/if he gets CM 12.1 completely straightened out for our device. He'll probably release both at the same time.
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No twrp to flash, yet?
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I'm not sure what you're asking here. 2.7.0.1, 2.7.0.2 and 2.7.1.0 are all publicly available for us.
Sent from my VK810 4G

Idk. Some guy was bragging about using 2.8.6 saying it "wasn't publicly available yet" not to long ago. Only reason I said rumor was I had no proof.

Honestly I could care less what version he has. BL still locked. No mr , just felt he was name dropping or bragging. " I got it and you don't " sorry

XT1052 [Retail.en.DE] OTA

Just wanted to let you guys know that the 5.1 OTA is rolling out as we speak. My girl's got a German Moto X, and received the OTA today!
She's now on 222.21.15.ghost_row.Retail.en.DE. The build number is LPA23.12-15.
And here I am waiting for it with my Dutch Retail.en.EU version..

tommert38 said:
Just wanted to let you guys know that the 5.1 OTA is rolling out as we speak. My girl's got a German Moto X, and received the OTA today!
She's now on 222.21.15.ghost_row.Retail.en.DE. The build number is LPA23.12-15.
And here I am waiting for it with my Dutch Retail.en.EU version..
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Can you look to list of languages? Has this OTA Ukrainian language (Українська)?

Unfortunately it doesn't include Ukrainian localization.

Anyone knows where to get this Ota in a rsd lite flashable form?

When we got OTA zip file, then we do RSD one )
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tommert38 said:
She's now on 222.21.15.ghost_row.Retail.en.DE. The build number is LPA23.12-15
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Any possibility to get OTA zip?

johnrangoo said:
Anyone knows where to get this Ota in a rsd lite flashable form?
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you can't flash the OTA via RSDLite.
Someone could try updating via Motorola Device Manager on their PC, and see if an FXZ/SBF comes down that can be captured.
Or if someone who is rooted can download, but not apply the OTA, they can grab the OTA ZIP file from their /cache folder... then you could follow the Side Load instructions from -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/ref-return-to-stock-recovery-rooted-t3027079
That being said.. if this is a SOAK being performed, it shouldn't be long until it starts being pushed to all users of that model. Of course it will come in waves, so once the official push to that model comes, it may take up to a week until it hits all phones.
And anyone who takes part in the MFN tests would be violating the NDA they signed to take part, if they leak the file. Moto got the links to prior leaks removed, so it stands to reason they might do the same for other leaks.

KidJoe said:
you can't flash the OTA via RSDLite.
Someone could try updating via Motorola Device Manager on their PC, and see if an FXZ/SBF comes down that can be captured.
Or if someone who is rooted can download, but not apply the OTA, they can grab the OTA ZIP file from their /cache folder... then you could follow the Side Load instructions from -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/ref-return-to-stock-recovery-rooted-t3027079
That being said.. if this is a SOAK being performed, it shouldn't be long until it starts being pushed to all users of that model. Of course it will come in waves, so once the official push to that model comes, it may take up to a week until it hits all phones.
And anyone who takes part in the MFN tests would be violating the NDA they signed to take part, if they leak the file. Moto got the links to prior leaks removed, so it stands to reason they might do the same for other leaks.
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You should flash full FW by RSD, not OTA.

md07 said:
You should flash full FW by RSD, not OTA.
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Which is what I said...
I think maybe you should have quoted @johnrangoo who asked the question...

KidJoe said:
Which is what I said...
I think maybe you should have quoted @johnrangoo who asked the question...
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I stay tuned.. because I have a German Retail Moto X.. the ota zip is flashable via stock recovery.. right?
I have a question.. there is a safe way to downgrade to stock kitkat (just in case)?

bart.found said:
I stay tuned.. because I have a German Retail Moto X.. the ota zip is flashable via stock recovery.. right?
I have a question.. there is a safe way to downgrade to stock kitkat (just in case)?
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Yes, the OTA zip must be flashed from Stock Recovery. And there are also some other conditions. See -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/faq-how-to-prepare-ota-update-carriers-t3126425
As for downgrade... It is always suggested to never downgrade. If you downgrade, you risk bricking. see -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/info-warning-risks-downgrading-impacts-t3058202

KidJoe said:
Yes, the OTA zip must be flashed from Stock Recovery. And there are also some other conditions. See -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/faq-how-to-prepare-ota-update-carriers-t3126425
As for downgrade... It is always suggested to never downgrade. If you downgrade, you risk bricking. see -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/info-warning-risks-downgrading-impacts-t3058202
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OMG it's a huge amount of informations!! If I understood, even if I have a retail version with unlockable bootloader, it is impossible to revert to a stock old version without the risk of a (hard)brick!!! :S
Does exist, at least, a stock rom flashable through custom recovery on newer bootloader versions? Or, alternatively, custom ROMs that are able to properly use the particular hardware of this device (without losing all its smart features?)
Thanks for the reply... I'll read it more carefully later

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...If I understood, even if I have a retail version with unlockable bootloader, it is impossible to revert to a stock old version without the risk of a (hard)brick!!! :S
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Correct.
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Does exist, at least, a stock rom flashable through custom recovery on newer bootloader versions? Or, alternatively, custom ROMs that are able to properly use the particular hardware of this device (without losing all its smart features?)
Thanks for the reply... I'll read it more carefully later
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As of yet, for Lollipop. No. What exists are "backups" of LEAKED test versions of Lollipop for other models and carriers. (Brazil XT1058 for example)
When the OTA finally pushes, you'll need to be stock, and on stock recovery to apply it.. OR wait for someone to create something like a "backup" which you can restore in TWRP, or a custom rom version BASED on the stock rom.
Keep in mind, that unless you apply the stock OTA which is pushed by your carrier/motorola, you might miss parts that get updated. In other words, the TWRP BACKUPS of the leaked test versions only include the /System partition. It does not include the partition table file, the bootloader, the modems, etc. and the other parts that are updated by the OTA.

KidJoe said:
Correct.
As of yet, for Lollipop. No. What exists are "backups" of LEAKED test versions of Lollipop for other models and carriers. (Brazil XT1058 for example)
When the OTA finally pushes, you'll need to be stock, and on stock recovery to apply it.. OR wait for someone to create something like a "backup" which you can restore in TWRP, or a custom rom version BASED on the stock rom.
Keep in mind, that unless you apply the stock OTA which is pushed by your carrier/motorola, you might miss parts that get updated. In other words, the TWRP BACKUPS of the leaked test versions only include the /System partition. It does not include the partition table file, the bootloader, the modems, etc. and the other parts that are updated by the OTA.
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My phone is stock unrooted with locked bootloader in this moment.. I think I'll wait for OTA or, at most, sideload the correct OTA for my model and flash it through stock recovery.
My question was if exist a stock KitKat firmware flashable through custom recovery over Lollipop bootloader!! Just in case I'd like to revert without losing any feature!
Thank you!

bart.found said:
My phone is stock unrooted with locked bootloader in this moment.. I think I'll wait for OTA or, at most, sideload the correct OTA for my model and flash it through stock recovery.
My question was if exist a stock KitKat firmware flashable through custom recovery over Lollipop bootloader!! Just in case I'd like to revert without losing any feature!
Thank you!
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Why take OTA if you can just install a TWRP-backup of Lollipop... only then u can downgrade without the risk of bricking your device.

bart.found said:
My phone is stock unrooted with locked bootloader in this moment.. I think I'll wait for OTA or, at most, sideload the correct OTA for my model and flash it through stock recovery.
My question was if exist a stock KitKat firmware flashable through custom recovery over Lollipop bootloader!! Just in case I'd like to revert without losing any feature!
Thank you!
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If you are LOCKED BOOTLOADER, you can't run a custom recovery on the 2013 X. So that question is No, you can't.
And as for downgrading, Please DO NOT!! Instead, Read that entire thread, trust me, it explains why I say that.

KidJoe said:
If you are LOCKED BOOTLOADER, you can't run a custom recovery on the 2013 X. So that question is No, you can't.
And as for downgrading, Please DO NOT!! Instead, Read that entire thread, trust me, it explains why I say that.
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I finally read everything!!!
What I understand:
1) NEVER downgrade your bootloader or your stock firmware! If you don't want to brick immediately or later XD
What I didn't understand:
1) I have a German retail moto x xt1052.. can I unlock my bootloader, root and flash custom recovery/firmware? I suppose yes, even if my device isn't listed on motorola official page (can I use sunshine or other methods?)
2) Does any custom ROM, able to use all moto x features like touchless control or lift to wake etc, exist? Because I noticed that most custom ROMs aren't able to use that features (probably due to the lack of binaries), at least on lollipop.. I don't know if CM11 or slimkat or other AOSP based or stock based rom can properly use that damn X8 processor!
Thank you.. and sorry for bothering you so much, but I don't really want to damage my device!!!

bart.found said:
I finally read everything!!!
What I understand:
1) NEVER downgrade your bootloader or your stock firmware! If you don't want to brick immediately or later XD
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Correct.
bart.found said:
What I didn't understand:
1) I have a German retail moto x xt1052.. can I unlock my bootloader, root and flash custom recovery/firmware? I suppose yes, even if my device isn't listed on motorola official page (can I use sunshine or other methods?)
2) Does any custom ROM, able to use all moto x features like touchless control or lift to wake etc, exist? Because I noticed that most custom ROMs aren't able to use that features (probably due to the lack of binaries), at least on lollipop.. I don't know if CM11 or slimkat or other AOSP based or stock based rom can properly use that damn X8 processor!
Thank you.. and sorry for bothering you so much, but I don't really want to damage my device!!!
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1. The XT1052 could get its bootloader unlock code direct from Moto. After unlocking the bootloader you can flash customer recovery, root, and/or flash a 3rd party custom rom.
2. Any custom rom built on TOP of Moto's stock rom, could still retain those stock moto features. AOSP based roms, CM11/12 based roms, etc. will not include the stock moto features. However they may include 3rd party apps which mimic those features, but might not work as well.

Does 5.1 include hebrew language support as in 4.4.4?

amarguli said:
Does 5.1 include hebrew language support as in 4.4.4?
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If the stock Moto rom for your carrier/model X includes it, then yes, 5.1 update should include it as well.

I want to have 4.4.4 back instead of the ota given 5.1 update. Is there a nearly unmodified xt1052 stock 4.4.4 flashable with trwp?