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I was very impressed at the review posted on Android Police.
It's like they are reviewing a different tablet from the one I have.
It's a shame as people might be discouraged from buying a great product.
I personally wouldn't have bought it base on the article posted.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...iew-an-embarrassing-lazy-arrogant-money-grab/
My response (added to the comments on Android Police)
I do agree with some of the observations made by the reviewr.
However, I do like the tablet a lot, I really wasn't looking to buy a tablet when I drove to Bestbuy, but since my HTC flyer is not performing as it used to, and I love the pen, I decided to go with this one after testing it for a while.
And I have to say I like it, it's plenty fast, I do agree that the multi tasking is more a gimmick, but it's really not the reason why I bought it.
Something I do have to note, mine is not flexible at all, I was really amazed at your video. Mine will not flex or make any sounds. I does looks very plastic, but other than that I have nothing bad to say in regards to the built quality. I do miss the aluminum on my HTC flyer, but the overall construction of this device is really good.
I don't have misaligned issues or parts or corners that look out of place, it feels completely solid.
I guess that different people have different opinions and everyone has different needs or expectations for devices.
I do respect the point of view presented in this article, but also disagree with some of the observations.
I would recommend interested people to actually go and try it out yourself.
Also, something I did notice when I started playing with it, is that mine felt much more heavy compared to the one the Samsung representative had at Bestbuy.
The Samsung lady had a black one what felt surprisingly light, could it bee there is kind of a demo version?
Anyway, the only point I completely agree with reviewer is that the multitasking is only gimmick... other than that my experiences been completely different and I really love the tablet, its my first 10 inch, and my first Samsung tablet, before I had Dell, HTC, and I also own a Nexus 7.
I find the built of the Samsung to be vastly superior of that of the N7.
Read this one from GSMArena. Their very thorough as you'll see (it's 10 pages). I think a lot of reviewers are just assuming the Note's a standard G-Tab with a pen and not really spending the time to appreciate it how well it does the things tablets are primarily used for.
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_note_10_1-review-798.php
In all of those reviews I've been noticing that there are issues not present in retail models. I actually watched a 40min russian review on youtube and they found a lot of problems, including creaking, pen sensor not working correctly and so on. Otherwise, the review was very well done and I tend to trust the reviewer. My feeling is, some of these review units are dodgy, maybe preproduction units.
Yep I went on quite a rant in my response to the review on Android Police Google+ page. I really do not get all the negative reviews of this product.
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I'm just thankful I bought this tablet before reading reviews.
It's fantastic, im thinking of selling my N7, which I also love.
And yes, I agree the are testing preproduction models.
I just hate that they are missleading people which might have bought it.
I haven't used my computer since I bought this beast, I'm having exactly the same internet experience as my pc.
Without the wait of coming up out if hibernation.
One thing that really annoys me about these reviews is their assumption that HD (Infinity) and QVGA (iPad) are the *norm* now. They aren't - the vast majority of tablets in the 10.1 inch size are still 1280x800.
The reviewer is also a bit confused on some key points.
1. The Note 10.1's battery life is actually not that great. It ranks in around 8.5hrs of continuous use on video loop at 50% brightness. The Prime gets 10.5hrs. It seems what that the Note 10.1 does get right is long standby times which is actually very useful since most of us tend to use tablets in 'bursty' ways - off most of the time, then use for a bit then off for a long time.
2. His complaint about the power cord must come from not realising that Galaxy Tabs (of which the Note is one) can use the same peripherals (mostly) including the synch cable. A little digging and he could find a 6' synch/charge cable.
3. I don't have my Note yet - should be here in a few days - but I've fondled a Tab 2 10.1 and the back felt pretty sturdy. As someone else noted, they may have gotten pre-release units. As for 'everyone using aluminum" not really true. Apple does. Asus does on the Prime and Infinity only - the TF300 doesn't. And aluminum on the Prime is why it sucked... it made the GPS unusable. As for the pen feeling like a hollow rod.. if they'd made it heavier - it would have made the tablet heavier.. and you know what his comment would have been then...
4. NFC. Seriously? The lack of NFC was one of his big buttons? I have NFC on my Galaxy Nexus and it's essentially useless. And not for trying. No one else has NFC, so 'bump' is pointless. I can't use it as a credit card replacement. I can't use it to replace my office ID card. I can't find TecTiles at any store - and no one carries any other kind of NFC tokens. I CAN use it to read my British passport, but that gets kind of dull after a while.
5. Camera. This is one of those 'no way to win' things. Yes, I'd be happier if the Note had a 8MP camera. Yet everyone seems to be happy with the Nexus 7 - which has NO back camera. The back camera for me will be mostly for quicky shots and barcoding. How good is it for that? Wellll.. the reviewer was so wrapped up in not looking bad that he couldn't bring himself to test the camera - which makes him a bad reviewer.
And gee - look - once again a reviewer forgets to test GPS, WiFi and BT.
Having come from the Asus Prime disaster - the fact that almost no one here so far has posted any serious issues with the Note 10 gives me confience that this will be a good tablet.
I couldn't stand reading THST android police article. I had to stop after a while. They don't know what the hell they talking about..lol. they seem very biased. I will admit the grey version doesn't look no where near as good as the white one. I agree with THST they likely received a prproduction unit. My plastic back doesn't flex or is wavy. Plus my device right out the box performed well. They went overboard on bashing this device.
I like ASUS and will say Samsung deserves more credit on this tablet. I'm glad I didn't read the reviews also. I just got it off of reading specs, Watching unboxing videos, and Samsung promo videos on it. Those were enough to catch my interest enough to try it out. A very pleasant experience being my first Samsung tablet I've ever used.
These reviewers are too stuck on ipad3 resolutions now. Now if a tablet doesn't have 1080P or better, they write the display off as subpar. 720P is good enough for me as this display isn't your run of the mill 1280x800 dpslay. They did something with it to make it look better than other tabs with same resolution. Maybe its the color reproduction or whatever but I know this display is one of the better ones I've seen. 720P movies and videos/you tube look great on it.
Going to post my response about this here.
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See this type of review makes me really angry. Its ok if a device really sucks but you can cleary tell this guy has a personal vendetta againsr samsung/Touchwiz. I feel if you dont like something then biased opinions should be left out ans they should not review the product. Samsung has been doing touchwiz for a while now ao what made him think that this tablet would come with stock ui. I don't agree with blogs using there popularity to trash a device. Seriously with the picture of the device in the trash. Go back to the laggy xoom.
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Hmmm.
None of samsung and apple devices disappointed me.
I want buy this because of bad review.
I want check it all by myself.
I seem to remember the Asus Transformer Prime getting excellent reviews when it first came out, go figure. One of the worst tablets I ever owned. :/
The Note 10.1 is the best performing Android tablet I've owned so far, no lag at all, everything is fluid.
When did 1080p on a tablet for android become normal?
acer and asus are there any more with that resolution? cause that article makes it seem that is the normal size lol what a boring read
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Yep I went on quite a rant in my response to the review on Android Police Google+ page. I really do not get all the negative reviews of this product.
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Haha, me too, I think I spent at least 4 hours today rebutting comments on the article, on Google+, and on reddit. Most reviews miss the point of the Note completely.
Honestly, I think we users of the Note should write our own reviews, especially focusing on how we find the S Pen useful. Like really, we should make an effort to write more balanced reviews of the device and post them on Google+, reddit, etc. and try to clear up some of the misconceptions.
Does anyone else's tablet creak, because mine certainly does not. And I have yet to experience any lag while writing whatsoever, it's as close to real time as I can discern. I also noticed that if you run javascript animations in the browser while multitasking with another app open, they continue in the browser, so it's not an illusion of multitasking by any means. I can even write, with no lag, in S Note, while animations run in the browser.
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habs101 said:
When did 1080p on a tablet for android become normal?
acer and asus are there any more with that resolution? cause that article makes it seem that is the normal size lol
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To be fair, these are the only recent tablets that have come out for $500. I think the point is that at that price they expect a higher resolution, but it's like they expect the S Pen and digitizer to be free, which is incredibly naive.
I think it is good to have a bad review and a good one for the new buyers to find out whats really going on.
Re MSplit Screen
"It only works with the Browser, Polaris Office, S Note, Video Player, Gallery, Email, and that's it. None of those applications are really any good, and I would much rather use Chrome, Google Docs, YouTube, Google Talk, Twitter, and Gmail."
Its a shame to be honets.....it was the reason I wanted to but this tablet.
Do you think guys that custom Roms make it possible for Gmail, Chrome etc?
Same for this one from PC World Australia : (I cannot post direct links yet...)
pcworld.idg.com.au/article/434234/samsung_galaxy_note_10_1_android_tablet/
It seems that the guy who made this review didn't get ANY thing about this tab
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I think it is good to have a bad review and a good one for the new buyers to find out whats really going on.
Re MSplit Screen
"It only works with the Browser, Polaris Office, S Note, Video Player, Gallery, Email, and that's it. None of those applications are really any good, and I would much rather use Chrome, Google Docs, YouTube, Google Talk, Twitter, and Gmail."
Its a shame to be honets.....it was the reason I wanted to but this tablet.
Do you think guys that custom Roms make it possible for Gmail, Chrome etc?
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I think the point is that the review is bad in that it's incomplete and/or misguided and/or biased, not that it's a negative review. As in, the assessment is not accurate and thus should not be used as a recommendation for or against the device. That's how I feel, anyway.
It's currently not possible for other apps, and I doubt any implementation based on the Touchwiz implementation will happen (that's a crapton of smali hacking) but I have a feeling CM10 will actually incorporate some sort of multitasking, as Cyanogen himself stated that he wanted to incorporate Onskreen Cornerstone, or at least similar functionality, into CM9 way back in February.
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Do you think guys that custom Roms make it possible for Gmail, Chrome etc?
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Regarding split screen... just step back and think for a short moment... and you will understand that the custom rom developers would need to heavily modify Android itself.
The display of information on the screen is a core os function. Having more than one app simultanously using the screen requires changes in the Android core. Otherweise this featute will be limited to special versions of Android (like TouchWiz) and special app using it. These special version will delay Android updates as they need to be adapted to major Android releases until they work again.
Android was designed for small screens of smartphones controlled with fingers. Starting with HC on tablets, Google should have implemented this, but it obviously did not happen.
And the feature is rarely useable on a normal smartphone...
You mean the same guys who justified the 8GB in a Nexus7 WITHOUT micro-SD card slot:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...-expandable-storage-and-why-its-for-the-best/
Those guys are pure attention-grabbers. Just check the number of comments in that review and compare it against other reviews. They were also *****ing a lot about GS3 menu choice. This is like a bimbo threatening to run naked to grab your attention and get advertisement-clicks in his article.
As I recall the reviewers HATED the Note and it went on to record sales.
You have to undertstand that tech reviewers have a couple disadvantages. Quite often they are reviewing buggy pre-release hardware. Next they tend to be spec nerds. They focus more on pure specs than does the damn thing actually work for people.
Honestly who cares what they say? If I wanted an iPad I would have bought one. Face it, by this time next year everything that is awesome now will suck by comparison.
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The most shocking thing in those reviews is "oh, and it has an S Pen, you can take notes with it" like it was less important than for example number of megapixels in the rear camera. Even the positive reviews mostly ignore S Pen.
Actually, when reading the review - I didn't finish it though, too annoying - the picture of one of these little dogs that tend to bark at anybody and everything kept appearing in front of my inner eye ... this Amadeo guy must be one of these short people.
I couldn't care less for NFC. And resolution, oh my. Everything about this was already stated here. I care for the pen. And that works good enough
So it's time for a new phone for me from the Evo 3D. I keep phones for 2 years and I choose phones based upon specs and what I like (didn't get the 3D for the 3D).
I am asking for the best attempt for non bias opinions for which would be the best phone to own for 2 more years.
I would have gotten the Galaxy S4 if it came with the 8 core but since it comes with a quad core at 1.8Ghz over the HTC One's 1.7 that is no longer and issue. With Kernels and OC I'm sure they will both be very stable at 2Ghz which is plenty fast for a phone.
My biggest concerns are the Camera, the sound, screen quality, size and customization.
Camera:
So far I am loving the HTC One's low light camera. If I want a high MP camera then I will use a camera but most of the time I want to take a picture with my phone and it turns out bad it is in low light. So I like to give the +1 to HTC One on camera plus the Zoe feature seems very nice and useful. I will have to wait to see how the two compare and I hope the Galaxy S4 has some samples after it gets announced.
Sound:
I like the amplified speakers on the HTC One, though It doesn't mean the Galaxy S4 isn't going to sound nice. I havn't heard anything about the speakers on the Galaxy S4 so I need to know more about this one to make a decision on which gets the +1.
Screen Quality:
This is a tough one for me, both are probably spectacular and screen size isn't what chooses the +1 on this one for me. I like the quality of the picture more. If anyone sees some good info on this plz post when it comes available.
Size:
I could never own a phone as big as the Note 2. It just isn't pocket friendly and I don't want anything that big. It's great for those who want to mix a tablet with a phone and size isn't an issue, but for me it has to be pocket friendly and not pocket filling. I havn't seen dimensions of the Galaxy S4 on this so I can't decide until that information comes available so please post when available. But from reviews the HTC One looks like it's a good size in the hands.
Customization:
This one is big since It's very fun to do and worth doing. The battery is an issue for me atm because I wouldn't know what to do when it freezes unless there's a reset button that acts like a battery pull (then it's important to how I get to it. If it requires a pin then I have to think how often will I be able to take a pin out and reset it) . For me I don't have to replace batteries in my phone and technology in batteries is increasing and they should last 2 years unless your eating you battery up 2-3 times a day. Mine has always lasted me the day because when it's low I just limit myself.
The SD card isn't really a problem for me because I only own a 32GB version SD card and I will just use it as a USB if I were to get the HTC One or pop it in the Galaxy S4 if I were to get that one. 32GB is plenty for me as I have an IPod for music and don't need a ton of movies on my phone. One of the things the S4 is big about is the scrolling feature, but I'm not sure that is important to me. I also don't care for the new sense and it's focus being live feeds.
If anyone has any input on the categories please let me know. I usually get phones for my parents when I get one for myself too. So far I am leaning towards the HTC One which is why I came here. I just need to know more before I can decide.
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How can you decide between something that has not been released yet???
Against rules to compare, thread will be closed as soon as a moderator sees it
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Obviously the best thing to do is wait until the S4 announcement. Read reviews for both phones but don't take them as gospel. Read around for other impressions, watch some videos and if possible see if there are any demo units near you that you can try out.
Otherwise look at both specs and see whats more important for you?
Higher MP camera, removable large battery, MicroSD slot, RGB notification led, 5 inch OLED display? - Go for S4
Better build quality and looks, better low light camera, HTC Sense and Zoe, superior audio output, 4.7 SuperLCD 3 with higher PPI - Go for HTC One.
I have ordered the HTC One, but if the S4 announcement is good and meets what I want then I will definitely be looking to get that.
Yeah you have to wait 2 more days and the s4 will be announced, then you will know the official spec of the s4 which i doubt would be much better than HTC one
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When did it become against rules to compare phones based upon one persons needs and that person asks the community for assistance. I know XDA has changed from what made XDA the place to be, but seriously can't see it being that bad.
toxicfumes22 said:
When did it become against rules to compare phones based upon one persons needs and that person asks the community for assistance. I know XDA has changed from what made XDA the place to be, but seriously can't see it being that bad.
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Sorry, but this fires up the brand bashers and instead of any real help, you'll get only fanboy trolling. This is why it is against the rules
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Please read the rules. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2158159
As a comparison thread isn't device-specific by definition, it cant stay on a device forum.
You could make such a thread in Android General if you so wish.
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Hello,
I am very interested in buying this phone, I think I've seen almost every review out there.
However, while at first I got really excited about this phone (I especially liked the choice of releasing the source code) there are 2 issues that put me in doubt:
1. The camera seems to perform quite badly when recording videos. Videos are not stable and often look blurry (at least from what I could see from the reviews). My question is: is this software or hardware related? If software-related, do you think it can be and will be improved?
2. The built. Is it really that solid? I have read about people reporting cracked screens and dead pixels. I guess I have a confidence issue, in the sense that this is the first smartphone for Oppo and I am wondering how it will behave in the long term (durability/resistance of the case and screen). What do you think?
Many thanks!
Vituz
vispinet said:
Hello,
I am very interested in buying this phone, I think I've seen almost every review out there.
However, while at first I got really excited about this phone (I especially liked the choice of releasing the source code) there are 2 issues that put me in doubt:
1. The camera seems to perform quite badly when recording videos. Videos are not stable and often look blurry (at least from what I could see from the reviews). My question is: is this software or hardware related? If software-related, do you think it can be and will be improved?
2. The built. Is it really that solid? I have read about people reporting cracked screens and dead pixels. I guess I have a confidence issue, in the sense that this is the first smartphone for Oppo and I am wondering how it will behave in the long term (durability/resistance of the case and screen). What do you think?
Many thanks!
Vituz
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Hey Vituz,
1. The camera problem WAS software related, but it's already fixed. So video recording does work nice and smooth.
2. Build quality: The Oppo Find 5 is the most solid device I ever owned. The build quality is way better then the iPhone 5 or the HTC One.
If I were you, I would certainly choose for the Oppo Find 5.
Ps. An extra reason why you should buy the Oppo Find 5 is: OTA updates (twice a month)
As for (2), this isn't Oppo's first phone, they already had the Oppo Finder (X907), which actually was the world's thinnest smartphone, no matter what Apple claimed.
Built quality is superb. Dead pixels happen everywhere, that's why there are standards which tell you how many dead pixels the manufacturers think you need to live with.
My device is just fine, others reported some dead pixels, gotta see for yourself and maybe return it, but it's not that Samsung, HTC or others always only release 100% perfect devices, problems happen everywhere.
S.D.Richards said:
As for (2), this isn't Oppo's first phone, they already had the Oppo Finder (X907), which actually was the world's thinnest smartphone, no matter what Apple claimed.
Built quality is superb. Dead pixels happen everywhere, that's why there are standards which tell you how many dead pixels the manufacturers think you need to live with.
My device is just fine, others reported some dead pixels, gotta see for yourself and maybe return it, but it's not that Samsung, HTC or others always only release 100% perfect devices, problems happen everywhere.
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Thank you guys... your advice is very much appreciated.
Only one further question: could you post a video shot after the fix? or maybe just point me to a good link?
Again many thanks, I'm leaning again towards the Oppo Find 5...
vispinet said:
Thank you guys... your advice is very much appreciated.
Only one further question: could you post a video shot after the fix? or maybe just point me to a good link?
Again many thanks, I'm leaning again towards the Oppo Find 5...
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Here's a 1080p video sample: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbvb9tMNG7s
Ps. Don't forget to set the video quality to 1080p for the full experience!
Folks,
I joined forums to ask this specific question - never had to join before coz I always found what I was lookin for
I have a Samsung Note 3 and would love to root it, because, oh my gosh that bloatware doesn't half get under my skin - it respawns more often than a Thalidomide playing Quake.
There is only one thing putting me off - the camera software - I can't find a specific Note 3 Camera apk and hey, I had a Nexus 4 - great hardware specs, poor delivery on the software side IMHO. But I love the Samsung software for the camera and it was a major reason why I bought the phone.
Is there any way to maintain the quality of the camera after rooting? Anyone used anything that stands up as well as the Samsung software?
Whilst I like the software overall, a huge boost is the 60 fps Smooth motion setting on the video - really like to keep something along those lines.
Thanks in advance,
Steve
StevieRamone said:
Folks,
I joined forums to ask this specific question - never had to join before coz I always found what I was lookin for
I have a Samsung Note 3 and would love to root it, because, oh my gosh that bloatware doesn't half get under my skin - it respawns more often than a Thalidomide playing Quake.
There is only one thing putting me off - the camera software - I can't find a specific Note 3 Camera apk and hey, I had a Nexus 4 - great hardware specs, poor delivery on the software side IMHO. But I love the Samsung software for the camera and it was a major reason why I bought the phone.
Is there any way to maintain the quality of the camera after rooting? Anyone used anything that stands up as well as the Samsung software?
Whilst I like the software overall, a huge boost is the 60 fps Smooth motion setting on the video - really like to keep something along those lines.
Thanks in advance,
Steve
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Rooting the phone has no effect on the quality of the camera/camcorder
or it's options, features and specs.
If you stick with Samsung Touchwiz Note 3 based custom roms here in
this forum you will not see or find any degradation in the camera at all.
Good luck!
Fantastic - thank you Misterjunkyy
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Rooting the phone has no effect on the quality of the camera/camcorder
or it's options, features and specs.
If you stick with Samsung Touchwiz Note 3 based custom roms here in
this forum you will not see or find any degradation in the camera at all.
Good luck!
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After a week of testing my N6 i can clearly say that N5 was a long way better in his time ..
I'll explain myself.
With the bug that make the sound going from low to loud. (And don't say it's feature because it's not ! Exemple : when you reboot your phone for exemple, unlock it and go to one game like clash of clan very quickly for exemple, you'll clearly hear the sound making weird things like there's low volume then going up by itself ..)
The performance issues.. (Many games stuttering, Facebook app that lags like hell, Here Maps too, Shazam stuttering animation.. Well in other word many app that doesn't act like it should with the power of our N6)
The battery isn't as great as Note 4 or at least comparable.. it's very inconsistant .. well it's still better than N5 but it's just "OK"
The purple tint when very low brightness (amoled issue but again Note 4 don't have a issue like that)
The camera is more than OK but it's still not like something WOW and taking a picture take much time if you compare to other flagship..
I don't own a Note 4 but after all YouTube Videos and even a friend Note 4 that's why i'm comparing these two..
But i own a N5 and back in december 2013 when i receive my N5 i can clearly say that it wasn't the perfect phone but more close to perfect phone than our N6 is.
I really hope that Google update will solve at least the performance issue and the "inconsistant sound" issue cause it's clearly software issue and make our battery a bit better.. Then i'll say that N6 will be more close to the perfect "phablet" I love my n6 beside all these issues, the material used, the 6" screen, the speakers (when they go well) and lollipop feature are awesome !
I gave up on the nexus and got a g3. I'm very happy. Its running lollipop and I have no complaints.
Some devs were talking about bad coding and lazy game devs being the cause of the stuttering since they haven't optimized them for lollipop; the same can be said for lag in apps.
The tint at low brightness is because the Nexus goes below 0 if you compare adaptive vs regular when both are at 0. You will notice the same thing if you use Lux brightness app on the Note 4.
The speaker bug will be fixed so that's not a big deal
My battery life is great, but YMMV.
The camera takes excellent pictures its more user error most of the time. Check our the Nexus pictures OP if you want some good examples of what it can do in good hands.
I'm with you on the poor game performance. Whatever the reason it's unacceptable and I'm going to give this several months to hopefully get ironed out.
Personally for me I loved the Nexus 4. If it had better LTE support I'd still rock one. I'd liked to have seen the new Droid as a Nexus. To me that would have been a better idea.
That said for my dreams, the N4 body with a 4.95in AMOLD dispaly and N5 hardware would have KILLED it for me.
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Some devs were talking about bad coding and lazy game devs being the cause of the stuttering since they haven't optimized them for lollipop; the same can be said for lag in apps.
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Well how come that N5 with stock lollipop doesn't have any performance issue if it come from game aren't optimized for lollipop ?
I think it comes from the N6 software ..
I hope for sounds are going to be fixed ..
And for other issue as i said, it's like that and i know but well it could be better
I haven't noticed any game performance issues or sound issues. I am running Lean Kernel and have my GPU slightly OC'd though.
I have owned every Galaxy device there is (except Note 4) and the performance of my Nexus 6 is leaps and bounds over anything I've owned in the past. Its kind of like a race car.....you just have to know how to tune it right.
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The speaker bug will be fixed so that's not a big deal
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Will it? Because I'm hearing a lot of "It's a feature," the first step is admitting there's a problem.
I own the Note 4 but keep coming back to the Nexus 6. It is about preference. I'm on CleanRom + franco kernel and it is rocking in performance. This phone will only get better with software updates.
As for pictures, I learned something new by owning both phones. Yes, the Note 4 takes great pictures that look great on the phone but when comparing on a large screen I was surprised the pictures looked better from Nexus 6. I couldn't believe it.
tlf55 said:
Well how come that N5 with stock lollipop doesn't have any performance issue if it come from game aren't optimized for lollipop ?
I think it comes from the N6 software ..
I hope for sounds are going to be fixed ..
And for other issue as i said, it's like that and i know but well it could be better
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I'm just going off of what was said. I read it in the kernel OP for LK or Franco if I recall correctly. It could also be the GPU using older coding trees which aren't as optimized(it was mentioned in the same place as the above)
The sound should be fixed, soon hopefully I 5.03 or whatever the end update is called. Its rumored that 5.1 is coming out in February.
I'm much happier with this phone over my G3 I can consistently get 6 hours SOT so that's fine with me and the development is crazy compared to other phones.
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Will it? Because I'm hearing a lot of "It's a feature," the first step is admitting there's a problem.
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I don't think it is because my Nexus 9 doesn't exhibit this. It's hopefully going to get fixed here soon.
How quickly we forget... the 5's camera was utter horse crap when it was released. Go back and read those initial reviews.... it's not pretty. It took two updates to fix. My wife still has her 5 and my 6 focuses much quicker and takes far better photos in every condition we've come across.... and hers still can't focus worth a damn most of the time. Most everything written about the 6's shooter starts with some dig on the Nexus 5's camera.
And as poor as you say the battery is, I still get closer to twice the screen time on my 6.
And then there is better radios, much better speakers. And the screen... yes, the overblown red screen tint that only kicks in with ambient display and in a dark room and it's turned down...But let's ignore the lightbleed and poor contrast ratio of the 5's screen that makes blacks more like slightly uneven dark gray.
'course, the 6 doesn't fart rainbows and puke unicorns like the 5.
The 6 is a superior phone the 5 in pretty much every way and a much better match to the current competition.
But they don't make then like they used to, right? Revisionist history. I really liked my 5, but I'm not so blinded to not see reality.
Personally I love the device and couldn't care less what you did with it or why you don't like it
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I don't know what perfect would be, but this phone is pretty dang good.
Am I one of the few who thinks the Nexus 6 is a perfect phone? I have zero issues with it.
I've been content with the N6 thus far and now a 5" screen feels like a flip phone to me. I gave my mom my N5 since she has a iPhone 4S and when I tinker on it I can't believe how small it is .
I've noticed the noise issue pretty much with only system sounds.
I've been getting a lot of complements on the photo quality using the HDR+. I noticed the N5 took better pics with the HDR+ before I got my N6. I've even had iPhone users at work ask me to take photos at our Christmas party LOL.
I'm bailing out soon as the next flagship phone comes out . Disappointed
I haven't met THE perfect phone yet. But the entire Nexus line is pretty close to what i want. The Nexus 6 has actually turned me off to smaller phones now. I am a big guy with huge hands, and now the Nexus 5 feels like a Snickers bar in my hand. Does the Nexus 6 have its faults? Absolutely. Every device has its own faults. But for my needs, and how it performs for me, the faults are miniscule.
OP please list the specs of what you'd consider your perfect phone and why. For MY needs personally, the N6 is perfect. Glad I was an early adopter.
pyrogoggles said:
Am I one of the few who thinks the Nexus 6 is a perfect phone? I have zero issues with it.
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Same here.
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tlf55 said:
Well how come that N5 with stock lollipop doesn't have any performance issue if it come from game aren't optimized for lollipop ?
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This has been discussed at length in the performance thread. The fault lies with game developers who are known to put out crap code and do a terrible job supporting games.
As for faceplant...it has been a battery vampire and performance hog for a long while.
I understand your frustration.
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After a week of testing my N6 i can clearly say that N5 was a long way better in his time ..
I'll explain myself.
With the bug that make the sound going from low to loud. (And don't say it's feature because it's not ! Exemple : when you reboot your phone for exemple, unlock it and go to one game like clash of clan very quickly for exemple, you'll clearly hear the sound making weird things like there's low volume then going up by itself ..)
The performance issues.. (Many games stuttering, Facebook app that lags like hell, Here Maps too, Shazam stuttering animation.. Well in other word many app that doesn't act like it should with the power of our N6)
The battery isn't as great as Note 4 or at least comparable.. it's very inconsistant .. well it's still better than N5 but it's just "OK"
The purple tint when very low brightness (amoled issue but again Note 4 don't have a issue like that)
The camera is more than OK but it's still not like something WOW and taking a picture take much time if you compare to other flagship..
I don't own a Note 4 but after all YouTube Videos and even a friend Note 4 that's why i'm comparing these two..
But i own a N5 and back in december 2013 when i receive my N5 i can clearly say that it wasn't the perfect phone but more close to perfect phone than our N6 is.
I really hope that Google update will solve at least the performance issue and the "inconsistant sound" issue cause it's clearly software issue and make our battery a bit better.. Then i'll say that N6 will be more close to the perfect "phablet" I love my n6 beside all these issues, the material used, the 6" screen, the speakers (when they go well) and lollipop feature are awesome !
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This is my first Nexus device. As for other phones, like the LG G3, which I traded for my N6, what development does it really need with the exposed framework and G3 toolbox? Pretty much let you add any feature you wanted, so not much need for development at all, except for radios and such.
I have the Note 4 and it's a great phone, got to admit the Sammy did a great job with their overlay.
That being said, the N6 does seem to be a little subpar in the software department; but no doubt it will get sorted out, probably by developers here. I think that Google did not want to miss the Holiday rush and pushed the phone out with no real and varied test user input. So the few shortcomings of the phone were probably not addressed. In the end it's about what you want the phone to do. If you're a gamer, there may be a few titles you'll have to pass on, and I doubt they'll ever get looked at because not everyone uses the Nexus nor are there many available.
However, if you use the phone for the basics like phone calls and messaging, I think it will suit you just fine. Admittedly it could use some help in the design of the lollipop messaging. Very plain and not intuitive. But there are plenty of third party messaging apps to take it's place, shame though.
Sound is usually pretty good after the phone wakes all the way up, and battery life is comparable to many smartphones out there now a days. The hardware of the phone is outstanding and should still be in play a year from now, even competitive.
The size of the phone is nothing new to me since I prefer "phablets!" The built in wireless charging is a plus and something I hope to see common place in the future on all devices, time will tell.
Lollipop 5.0 and 5.o.1 need some help, and I think if you like to tinker with your phone a lot, XDA will develop what you need. However, If you're like me and don't have the time you use to, it might be a wise choice to move on to something else. I'm holding out until the next big update to see what issues are actually addressed and what development is made to move us in the right direction. I appreciate not having all the bloat that other phones get, but I don't feel pure android is up to snuff with enough user options to keep me interested very long. Got spoiled by sammy and LG tweakbox. I feel that should be the norm and it's pretty easy after attaining root on either of these to freeze or delete the bloat so there you go. If you are an avid flasher, this is the phone for you, but if you have other hobbies and interest, plan to move on to greener pastures.