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Am I right in saying that this does not include cable box pass through. i.e. I cannot use this device to search through by cable channels like I can with Google TV?
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Thanks. But darn, that's a big loss IMHO
Personally I use a hdhomerun prime and a windows 7 box with WMC to record TV. Have ServerWMC installed there which allows XBMC to be used as a WMC client for viewing live TV and recorded programs as well. I am already doing this with two FireTVs so doing it on the nexus player will be a no brainer. I don't miss a cable company STB and since the player has googlecast support I finally have everything I need in one box.
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Google wants us watching Google "TV" via the Internet: Youtube, Play Movies etc.
Google does not want us watching cable, satellite or OTA TV. Google doesn't make money on advertising or content there.
Same deal with OTA FM radio (despite Android One, which is only for "developing" markets.)
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Google wants us watching Google "TV" via the Internet: Youtube, Play Movies etc.
Google does not want us watching cable, satellite or OTA TV. Google doesn't make money on advertising or content there.
Same deal with OTA FM radio (despite Android One, which is only for "developing" markets.)
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This is not the case at all, and in fact quite the opposite. there is even a tv input framework built into android tv and they were demoing the tv app with a hdhomerun at google i/o
i suspect that they will be working with stb manufacturers to deliver live tv over IP, and we will probably see other hardware shortly with HDMI in.
check out the framework here https://developer.android.com/training/tv/tif/index.html
and showing it off at i/o with the live tv bit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3dCUPeyhag#t=1822
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demoing the tv app with a hdhomerun at google i/o
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BEST NEWS ALL WEEK.
I'd still like an official Windows Media Center Extender app, but watching live from the HDHomeRun is a huge win.
I'm pretty excited. I think they have cracked the input problem with the new framework. I suspect there will be a slew of network tuners coming to market for android TV.
SiliconDust HDHomeRun VIEW
Just to update this line of thought, SiliconDust released an updated version of their VIEW app on Friday.
This allows you to use their network tuners to view live TV on Android. While they listed official support only for the ADT-1, I've had some luck with my Nexus Player. I suspect the trouble is from the difference in the ADT-1 being ARM based while the Player is x86. You can keep an eye on their development on their Android TV development forum.
For me, it works perfectly from their VIEW app (which shows up in the leanback launcher without needing to go into chainfire's side launcher). The problem arises when trying to go through the TV Input plugin. I can see the channels, and sometimes get sound, but never video and usually a "tune failed" toast.
Particularly relevant to the OP might be that I'm using their Prime tuner which has a CableCard so basically replaces my Comcast STB.
Is it possible to get the WatchESPN APK from FireTV and have it work on ShieldTV?
If so, where and how?
It should work... Try installing / sideloading the Amazon Appstore APK and download & install the WatchESPN app from there... (I would tell you to use APK Downloader, but it can't seem to create a link for that particular app for some reason)
I was curious about this as well. I installed Amazon AppStore, and not all apps show up. For example, sonic 4 episode 1 and 2 both don't show up on shield TV. Also, it seems there are quite a few WATCH apps which i can't find such as watch ESPN, watch Disney. I'm wondering if there is an amazon fire TV amazon AppStore. My mom wants a streaming device, so maybe I'll pick up the fire tv stick today and see if i can pull the apks.
Yeah, I installed the Amazon App store but it barely works (needs mouse) and it's crippled, doesn't show many apps. Would be nice if APK downloader could grab it, but that only seems to work for Google Play Apps. Got to be a way...
I've tried it on the Nexus Player without any luck. It has some Amazon drm checks to make sure it is actually a fire TV/stick device. The farthest I've managed was to install it and get it to load. Once installed, all videos failed to play.
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Got it to work...
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I've tried it on the Nexus Player without any luck. It has some Amazon drm checks to make sure it is actually a fire TV/stick device. The farthest I've managed was to install it and get it to load. Once installed, all videos failed to play.
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OK, so I got the same thing all of you did with the Amazon Appstore app/k... But I was able to get the WatchESPN app to work using the APK I downloaded from here: http://www.apk4fun.com/share/6916/
Of course, you will need need a mouse or keyboard w/ trackpad (which I use since other apps like Dish Anywhere also require the same thing), but at least I was able to play Live streams and clips after I provided my satellite provider's info...
Yeah the "normal" phone/tablet version works. You can also download the newest apk from the play store. However, if you want a version that works with only the remote, only version available is the Fire TV version; this version does not work with any Android TV devices because of the DRM.
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You don't need the amazon app store for watch espn just sideload the apk it works on the Shield tv with a mouse it's the watch espn phone app. You can't get the fire tv android tv off the fire tv it want work on the Shield tv that app was made for the fire tv platform.
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I suppose you could also install Kodi and use a plugin for that.
Any update?
Looks like this thread is now closed..... Watch ESPN is now official an Shield TV!
Apparently they've added them in a update, anyone with a UK Sony tv able to pull and post them?
If you're saying that there's a BBC iPlayer app for Android TV that works with a remote, then I too hope that someone fills this request. It would be interesting to try it out on the Nexus Player.
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If you're saying that there's a BBC iPlayer app for Android TV that works with a remote, then I too hope that someone fills this request. It would be interesting to try it out on the Nexus Player.
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Yeah BBC iPlayer, BBC News and BBC Sports were all on the Sony android tv I tried in John Lewis. Hopefully someone with one can figure it out and post them.
I'm looking for the same thing for the Australian Catch-up TV apps too.
My theory was to try and pull an update from the Sony support web site and extract the apps from there
(e.g. UK: http://www.sony.co.uk/support/en/product/KD-55X8505C)
I've only looked briefly, but it's not obvious what the file format is though.
From what I've read, the Sony TVs might use a MediaTek SoC (arm based) whereas the Nexus Player is x86, so I'm unsure if this will even work.
I can help extract from the update pkg, if only i could open the pkg file on my mac... any help here?
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I'm looking for the same thing for the Australian Catch-up TV apps too.
My theory was to try and pull an update from the Sony support web site and extract the apps from there
(e.g. UK: http://www.sony.co.uk/support/en/product/KD-55X8505C)
I've only looked briefly, but it's not obvious what the file format is though.
From what I've read, the Sony TVs might use a MediaTek SoC (arm based) whereas the Nexus Player is x86, so I'm unsure if this will even work.
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Hey, There are some 3rd party apps available for ABC, and SBS at this thread http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/archive/2447003
I would happily post this and any other UK apps that you guys want, however, I cannot seem to find the iplayer apk or any of the other catchup channel apks. The only one that I can find in relation to catchup services is the youview apk.
It's possible that the youview apk contains all the other catchup apks as the catchup services are integrated into youview.
The only way of using youview is setting it as the default tuner for the TV and it then takes over as the EPG and actual TV watching app.
It's also possible that installing the youview apk will also install the catchup services (iplayer, all4 etc...) and you could choose not to use youview as the main TV tuner but still get the other apps.
Hopefully this all makes sense.
I have looked in system apps and user apps during my search, if there is anywhere else to hunt these apks down in the file system then please point me to it.
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I would happily post this and any other UK apps that you guys want, however, I cannot seem to find the iplayer apk or any of the other catchup channel apks.
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This isn't to do with the Sony apps or the VouView app, but there is also a Nvidia Shield iPlayer apk specifically for Android TV that would probably be better to approach for getting iPlayer working on the Nexus Player.
This obviously doesn't fix the problem of 4OD and the other YouView apps, as they're probably not standalone apps, but at least it's one step closer, and would hopefully get iPlayer working at the very least. The iPlayer app consists of 2 parts, there's the main app which is just iPlayer, and there is an add-on app that adds BBC News & Sports, but it's required you have iPlayer installed to use them. And, of course. Because Nvidia made them, they're probably restricted to the Nvidia Shield, though I don't know as I haven't seen anyone else test them on the Nexus Player yet.
Here's a link to download the latest versions of both the iPlayer and Add-ons apks: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=63331976&postcount=34l=0
I know Android TV's like Sony have these apps, but I can't seem to find them anywhere to use on the nVidia Shield TV
Any ideas?
I don't know that the TV's actually do. It's a shame they are dragging their heels over bringing these apps to android TV. You have a couple of options really...
1) Install SPMC (or KODI). There are 3rd party add-ons for BBC and ITV, FTV guide will give you live TV channels. Kodi can be customised nicely , I've set it to auto start and use it as a homescreen for the SHIELD.
2) You can "mod" your SHIELD TV and flash an android ROM on to it. This will mean you can then use the Android apps as you're no longer on Android TV. This might be a bit too extreme for you though.
How you can make shield to auto start kodi? Could you give us some step by step please..
Thanks..
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How you can make shield to auto start kodi? Could you give us some step by step please..
Thanks..
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.autostart&hl=en
Install that...open it. Choose which app you want to autostart and no you don't need to root the SHIELD TV. I use SPMC as it's being tailored for the SHIELD TV but you can use KODI instead
any apps on demand?
the nvidia shield tv has chromecast (now google cast) built into it, casting all4 to it from another device works better than sideloading the all4 app. that's the best way to get all4 on it, as there's no all4 kodi add-on.
you can sideload My5 if you get an apk from another device, the demand 5 kodi add-on is dead. you need to use right stick mouse emulation, as it's a touchscreen app.
you can also sideload itv hub, but the kodi add-on is better.
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the nvidia shield tv has chromecast (now google cast) built into it, casting all4 to it from another device works better than sideloading the all4 app. that's the best way to get all4 on it, as there's no all4 kodi add-on.
you can sideload My5 if you get an apk from another device, the demand 5 kodi add-on is dead. you need to use right stick mouse emulation, as it's a touchscreen app.
you can also sideload itv hub, but the kodi add-on is better.
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Great post!
I don't personally do the casting and I use Android not Apple stuff. However I do know Kodi has Airplay compatibility. I've never tried it but maybe that will help iphone/ipad users do the same trick?
I never thought of extracting the My5 apk from my molly...thank you! I might just give that a try
I believe that you can cast from the ios version of all4 as well, yes.
if anyone has a working my5 apk please direct it this way, have not found one apk that will work, always some issue.
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if anyone has a working my5 apk please direct it this way, have not found one apk that will work, always some issue.
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you're probably finding that it's working as best as it's going to. you can only navigate with the right stick emulating a mouse, and it doesn't work great doing that either.
I got it by installing it on my phone then using es file explorer to back it up.
I've got it but it gives error message when trying to play any video, both on my phone and shield TV
To be fair regarding apps on demand try Pluto it's linking to youtube live channels and other sources,and also actually make a playlist once in youtube live to fill with playlists of the youtube live channels you want click the + next to playlist when it's open right top of the list.That's one set of live on demand you can use which is none commercial tv oriented.But for true tv on demand get a smart tv with it built in,or a tv box which is made to have the on demand services incorporated otherwise use kodi or spmc and add on demand channels from vido addons section.
ok somehow my5 decided to work on shield (still no luck on phone) so i have bbc iplayer, itv, all4 and my5. uk catch up services sorted!!
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ok somehow my5 decided to work on shield (still no luck on phone) so i have bbc iplayer, itv, all4 and my5. uk catch up services sorted!!
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Would you be able to post the apk's of the above apps? I'd love to be able to get the full line up of UK catchup apps in one box
Thanks!
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I'd like to get a copy of the APK's that work with the shield. Thanks
ok my5 i just downloaded from playstore on my phone then transferred the apk, same with 4od - if you dont have a phone or pc then just download on shield using aptoide or chrome. bbc iplayer already installed on shield but i use the kodi addon instead, itv player i installed through aptoide and it works but i use the kodi addon aswel with this one. there is actually catchup services for channels dave and really aswel as a kodi addon.
can you navigate with remote and press enter/select on these apps?
anhyone got channel 5 working?
I use the Nvidia game controller and it works on that, using the right analog as a mouse and A as the right click. Works perfect for me
My5 doesn't work on shield TV anymore since the update - just so you guys are aware.
So I just got a Fire HD 8 and I figured that if I installed all the google packages and services that I could just download Netflix and it would work with my chromecast. This doesn't appear to be the case though. I read on another site that Amazon patched Fire OS to disable chromecast support for Netflix even when using the app directly from the Play Store. Will I need to root the device in order to restore functionality of my chromecast to Netflix?
I am having the same issue. I can cast Google Play Movies all right, but cannot cast Netflix.
Is there any solution for this? Preferably with no rooting involved.