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I used to be able to open 8 tabs of mixed web pages (blogs, news, Facebook, etc) and could queue them all up, read them one by one, and close out & switch to the next tab when I'm finished with one.
I used to be able to do this without any slow downs or reloading of each page when I switch to it. In addition, my phone would not become bogged down.
NOW when I do this, I have to wait for the page to reload when I switch to it. This only happens when I have over 2 or 3 tabs going at once and even then, only when the webpages are relatively content-heavy.
Ok, ready for the b*tching? This is AWFULLY PAINFUL when I've queued these pages up right before entering a no-service area like a tunnel or the subway. My ancient G1 used to behave this way but I always thought that was because it had half the RAM of this phone, so it did that to free up memory for other running processes/headroom.
This is by far the biggest disappointment of the JI6 update and I'm just wondering if anyone else has noticed this or can suggest a fix.
Note, my phone is bone stock and one of the reasons I loved it so much was the browser performance - now, the browser performs horribly.
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Anyone?
Have you tried using a different browser, like Dolphin or Opera Mini?
opiomorph said:
Have you tried using a different browser, like Dolphin or Opera Mini?
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I've tried other browsers in the past, but was always happiest with the stock browser.
Regardless, I want to know what happened to the memory management after the update. It would never attempt to reload pages if I had multiple tabs going but now it does.
What I meant was, have you tested to see if other browsers are behaving the same way as the stock browser after you updated to JI6?
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What I meant was, have you tested to see if other browsers are behaving the same way as the stock browser after you updated to JI6?
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No, I haven't, but I dont specifically know how they performed before the update with regards to multiple tabs and page reloading, so it wouldn't tell me much about what the update did.
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No, I haven't, but I dont specifically know how they performed before the update with regards to multiple tabs and page reloading, so it wouldn't tell me much about what the update did.
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Maybe not, but if they behave better than the stock browser does now that you've updated, that's what counts, right?
Well, I just opened up 8 tabs of different websites and was able to switch between them with no problem at all. Nothing had to reload for me. On stock browser with JI6.
Try clearing cache?
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Try clearing cache?
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I have tried clearing the browser cache, tried other browsers, kill the native task manager app, tried stock froyo, Bionix V, Ginger Clone and Axura, and the browser always behaves the same way. If you switch to another app, when you come back to the browser, it starts to reload all pages (very annoying). It feels like I'm back using the mytouch 3g.
Back when the Vibrant (and the galaxy family) first came out, this didn't happened. 8 tabs (I could live with 4) that were always there waiting in the same line where you left off.
Any ideas
I have experienced some browser crashes in the past week, on multiple sites, and especially when visiting IGN.com. Its sort of a flash heavy site, but it still happens when I have Flash turned off.
Anyone else having problems with browser crashes? It has happened with both the stock Android Browser as well as Dolphin HD Browser.
yeah lot's of random crashing with default browser, I have installed every browser available but none offer the same as desktop experience. Browsing is (for me) the most disappointing thing about the tablet.
Happens to me quite often. Well happened. If you can live without JavaScript turn it off. Just enable it on sites that you really need. For me the sudden browser closures (not FCs) happend mainly on sites with JavaScripts.
Yes lots of crashes for me as well. I tend to have a lot of tabs open, and it is particularly annoying that there seems to be no way to automatically open up the same set of tabs (anyone know if there is a way to do this)...
same here, getting very tired of having to turn flash and java off to make browswer stable, hell if wanted this i would have bought a ipad2!
Much of the content on good sites is java & flash, for me its only been really bad the last 7 days. Come on android/ Asus, sort it please!
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Happens to me quite often. Well happened. If you can live without JavaScript turn it off. Just enable it on sites that you really need. For me the sudden browser closures (not FCs) happend mainly on sites with JavaScripts.
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Just did that and both the stock browser and Dolphin HD work MUCH faster and no more FCs. Question--is the Java engine part of android, or is it in the browser? If it is in android, then I guess there is no point in trying other browsers.
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holy, I've experience about 10 force closes. My browser doesn't even show the pop up force close notification, it just closes and returns me to my launcher -.-
same here ,really annoying..my nook colors stock browser on cm7 was alot better as well as flash support on it...hopefully soon it ll be adressed...
i just experienced this during the weekend. anyone contact ASUS about this?
this is surely a software issue which can easily be fixed (i hope)
Wow - glad I am not the only one. I really hope this issue gets fixed, its annoying to say the least!
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Me too, hope they sort it soon.
I found that clearing my cache through the manage app settings helps me to load a page after a crash. It usually happens if I have over 25 MB worth of cache from previous browsing cessions.
I must be lucky... I've had no problems with my browser at all, I'm very pleased with it.
I Use Dolphin HD. Only Time my Browser Crashes is when My girl uses it and she gets on Tumblr. Weird..
Edit: Oh and it only happens after a While of use on that web Site.
Guys, I just turned off the fast scrolling in the advanced menu and it's stopped crashing. Can anyone else test?
so far so good. Crossing my fingers.
dunetails said:
Guys, I just turned off the fast scrolling in the advanced menu and it's stopped crashing. Can anyone else test?
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I've always had this turned off and still get crashes..
same here (firmware "ww") but only when visit "hwupgrade" so i open this site with dolphin without java. Today i try a new kernel...asus help us (sorry for my poor english)
This is a google issue. Guys over at the xoom forum are having the same issue.
I find that rebooting the tf every other day helps cut down crashing and app fc's
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I don't know if you guys know already, but Opera Mobile browser has been updated to 11.1, bringing along a whole lot of goodies, including flash support and user agent changes.
One thing I did notice was that typing lag on facebook seemed to have diminished, this was on desktop view, however still unable to type through some pages with "disqus"
I also found HD 720p videos on youtube has greatly improved! It might be just me, but frames seem to be a whole lot better as opposed to dolphin HD and stock browser.
Frames also drop a bit when viewing full screen 720p in browser, but its watchable.
A link to change log can be found here: http://my.opera.com/operamobile/blog/2011/06/30/opera-mobile-11-1-has-arrived
Temporary Fix to search bar always going to mobile search (must apply apply every time you reset Opera), Credit to iCracked
Hey everyone, I have found a fix for those of you frustrated with the old google mobile search. once you have switched UA to desktop, go to google.com manually, it should load up the full site. Now, using your finger, press and hold over the google.com (website's) search bar, to bring up the menu. Now select "add search engine" then go to your browser search bar and tap the little google icon to bring up a list of search providers and select the new google one, be sure to delete the old one to avoid confusion.
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youtube.com/my_speed doesn't play in 720p mode - 0fps
I'm running prime 1.5 with netformer kernel @ 1.5GHz
Adkinson said:
youtube.com/my_speed doesn't play in 720p mode - 0fps
I'm running prime 1.5 with netformer kernel @ 1.5GHz
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yes, I noticed that too, but I made some video comparisons with a few 720p videos that I watched on different browsers, and it seems Opera seems to perform better. Only my judgement though, and I'm judging on real world performance, not an in app browser test to judge what I can see.
I am running Honeycomb 3.1 stock unrooted
and its fast!!!! not the flash. everything else. no keyboards lag ... Google you need to learn something or maybe buy opera.
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and its fast!!!! not the flash. everything else. no keyboards lag ... Google you need to learn something or maybe buy opera.
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Opera is known to introduce its own optimizations, so that's why it's the best in terms of Javascript performance showing zero lag in text input. Finally, Flash support is available! How did they manage to do that without Honeycomb source code?
memory usage is pretty bad tho. 170mb right now on xda wtf?
I'm guessing that the Flash support doesnt work with the hacked/hulu Flash? Opera isn't picking up my Flash but it works in every other browser...
Seems to work well and without any redraw issues when scrolling quickly. Good spot.
nice...will have to give it a try when i get home.
Last night i did a second reset. trying to run my tablet without any downloads for the moment and monitoring performance.
disabled javascript, flash on demand, and the browser was beautifully working. opened up links super fast, then.........
i hit the back button (lower left on screen)...the page does nothing. i press again, and this time it takes me 2 pages further than i wanted...damnit
then when i go from landscape to portrait, the damn quick scroll guide (added in 3.1) is stuck in the middle of the page...
all of a sudden..it crashes. no message, no warning, just straight back to home page. wtf... shame, because i love the layout of the stock browser.
But. Opera..here i come
Loving it. It's REALLY quick, feels 4x quicker than the stock browser, and more intuitive too. I also just tried their desktop browser, Chrome killer or what!!!
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Opera keeps on randomly zooming in on certain links when I click them. This is extremely annoying when using the touchpad as the mouse is plenty accurate enough.
Any way to turn this off?
Anyone successfully seeing flash videos in the new Opera using the 10.3 hulu hacked flash?
Google searches from the address bar or search box still use the mobile google site even with the UA set to desktop.
Did they also increase the font size on 11.1? The font size on previous version were much smaller then default browser, and dolphin HD
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memory usage is pretty bad tho. 170mb right now on xda wtf?
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That's precisely why you don't see any redraw while scrolling. The stock browser uses less memory because it doesn't load the whole page, instead only loading the portion of the page that you are currently viewing. This translates to choppy performance because it has to reload the page every time you scroll up or down, but leaves more memory for the rest of the OS to work with.
I hate tabs on this thing. Hidden, huge and ugly.
Also it renders fonts badly (some letters are to close, some are too bold comparing to stock browser or Dolphin).
scrolling is jittery no where as smooth scrolling as default browser
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I hate tabs on this thing. Hidden, huge and ugly
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I like them out of the way. They are hidden on my desktop that sports a full hd screen, I see no reason to keep them on sight on a "tiny" screen
Anyway, they didn't update Opera link, I was kinda hoping they will, so to get the most out of Opera 11.50....... oh well. One day.
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That's precisely why you don't see any redraw while scrolling. The stock browser uses less memory because it doesn't load the whole page, instead only loading the portion of the page that you are currently viewing. This translates to choppy performance because it has to reload the page every time you scroll up or down, but leaves more memory for the rest of the OS to work with.
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Oh yea that is wayyyy better. Not like I use all the 748mb anyway
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Google searches from the address bar or search box still use the mobile google site even with the UA set to desktop.
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Hey everyone, I have found a fix for those of you frustrated with the old google mobile search. once you have switched UA to desktop, go to google.com manually, it should load up the full site. Now, using your finger, press and hold over the google.com (website's) search bar, to bring up the menu. Now select "add search engine" then go to your browser search bar and tap the little google icon to bring up a list of search providers and select the new google one, be sure to delete the old one to avoid confusion.
The main app any tablet user uses is the Browser I'd assume and unfortunately its the weak spot on Honeycomb.
Viewing most desktop sites is very unbearable (try facebook, XDA, Google Plus) as the page lags, and text input is very difficult as well (huge lag)
Do any devs have any idea how to improve the speed on this stock browser in custom roms or so, I remember a kernel on the Xoom fixed things
This link has more info:
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=17353
If we could get a fix for this I could finally love my tab.
There is a lot less lag on the bonsai rom, but it's not completely gone. Ultimately google will have to be the to fix it.
theyve never mentioned it /acknowledged it
thats the worrying part
Ya know what actually, as,much as i dont like the look of the browser, opera mobile is the best functioning browser ive ever used. There is no browser lag, it render eveything exactly the way my desktop does. Im very suprised that google cannot mirror whatever opera mobile has done.
Ill give you an example of where opera finally got it right...
Try and do a search on xdas site and see what happens. It opens the text box for a second and then it drops the keyboard. Its never works and it is so annoying.
Now try it on opera mobile. Oh my god, it works!
It doesnt work on dolphin, firefox or any other browser ive tried. Opera mobile it works. Can a super sharp coder figure out a way to take whatever opera has in it and put it in the stock HC browser??
it`strange becouse in some forums is all ok, in other the text is very very slow :-(
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Ya know what actually, as,much as i dont like the look of the browser, opera mobile is the best functioning browser ive ever used. There is no browser lag, it render eveything exactly the way my desktop does. Im very suprised that google cannot mirror whatever opera mobile has done.
Ill give you an example of where opera finally got it right...
Try and do a search on xdas site and see what happens. It opens the text box for a second and then it drops the keyboard. Its never works and it is so annoying.
Now try it on opera mobile. Oh my god, it works!
It doesnt work on dolphin, firefox or any other browser ive tried. Opera mobile it works. Can a super sharp coder figure out a way to take whatever opera has in it and put it in the stock HC browser??
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I tried Opera and everything works great except two things. the first is that often times you will enter text in a text box, and then when you minimize the keyboard to click the submit button, it removes everything you just typed! I had this happen to me about 5 times and then I gave up and uninstalled it. The other issue is mainly a preference, but the tabs suck! Give me real tabs like the stock browser. opera and Firefox have a horrible tab implementation on Android.
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often times you will enter text in a text box, and then when you minimize the keyboard to click the submit button, it removes everything you just typed!
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i hate this thing more of the input lag , when it succeed often i close my browser and don't write more becouse i'm frustrated
Plus I am very tired of getting to the "mobile" version of the websites.
Its a 10 inch Tablet..
Google needs to give this thing a Desktop identity and load the desktop version of the websites. One thing Apple is doing right with the iPad.
Even better get rid of this Chrome Based Android Mobile Browser and put there the real Chrome.
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Plus I am very tired of getting to the "mobile" version of the websites.
Its a 10 inch Tablet..
Google needs to give this thing a Desktop identity and load the desktop version of the websites. One thing Apple is doing right with the iPad.
Even better get rid of this Chrome Based Android Mobile Browser and put there the real Chrome.
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even when I've manually set the useragent to a desktop browser, I still get kicked to the mobile versions of some sites. And sites like...google search, which should know better!
I've tested a bunch of browsers at this point and none of them are perfect. I think dolphin comes closest, but it definitely has little things that are annoying (such as it being way to easy to close the wrong tab)
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Plus I am very tired of getting to the "mobile" version of the websites.
Its a 10 inch Tablet..
Google needs to give this thing a Desktop identity and load the desktop version of the websites. One thing Apple is doing right with the iPad.
Even better get rid of this Chrome Based Android Mobile Browser and put there the real Chrome.
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If you type in about:debug in the browser you can go into the settings and change the uastring setting
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If you type in about:debug in the browser you can go into the settings and change the uastring setting
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I know. But after a while is going back to default.
I cant changing and play with the settings every other day.
Plus regular people cannot deal with such advance settings. I personally know 3 people they went with the iPad because of this.
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The main app any tablet user uses is the Browser I'd assume and unfortunately its the weak spot on Honeycomb.
Viewing most desktop sites is very unbearable (try facebook, XDA, Google Plus) as the page lags, and text input is very difficult as well (huge lag)
Do any devs have any idea how to improve the speed on this stock browser in custom roms or so, I remember a kernel on the Xoom fixed things
This link has more info:
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=17353
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I am a little confused. I don't have an issue with the browser or the typing...The pages load and scroll perfect and there is little to no lag at all on my typing. There can be a slight lag at times when i use the Keyboard/Dock but that is it.
Does anyone else have no issue?
It's annoying as hell! Anyone else getting this? Every time I open a new window it opens all the way, then reloads... If I open a link in a new tab the original window also reloads. This is on the stock browser and had been doing this from day 1 on the phone before root or anything. I like stock and was wondering if anyone else has had this problem and knows of a fix besides using a different browser apk. Thanks!
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It's annoying as hell! Anyone else getting this? Every time I open a new window it opens all the way, then reloads... If I open a link in a new tab the original window also reloads. This is on the stock browser and had been doing this from day 1 on the phone before root or anything. I like stock and was wondering if anyone else has had this problem and knows of a fix besides using a different browser apk. Thanks!
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yeah...its annoying to me. I quit chrome because of it.
If youre rooted...try the AOSP browser with bookmarks sync I posted in the themes section. Its a better browser than sammys or chrome anyway. Its faster...and the double tap zoom is perfect. Thats why I prefer it over the other browsers.
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yeah...its annoying to me. I quit chrome because of it.
If youre rooted...try the AOSP browser with bookmarks sync I posted in the themes section. Its a better browser than sammys or chrome anyway. Its faster...and the double tap zoom is perfect. Thats why I prefer it over the other browsers.
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Thanks ill check it out!