Had my new ATT Nexus 6 for not even two weeks and one small drop and BOOM ...entire screen shattered. What's sad is I have the Spigen slim case armor and it didn't protect it. I dropped it about 3 feet...on tile floor...landed flat on its back. I now have to fork out $200 bucks for a new one via ATT insurance. I just ordered a tempered glass protection for the screen hoping that this will help. Just a warning...these are very very fragile.
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I'm retarded? Why..because I put a nice case on it and it still broke the screen? Have a nice day brah.
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Slim armor isn't very protective. I have the Neo Hybrid. My nexus 6 fell off my desk onto a concrete floor and it is fine.
EDIT: I thought the Slim Armor was the Thin Fit.
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Slim armor isn't very protective. I have the Neo Hybrid. My nexus 6 fell off my desk onto a concrete floor and it is fine.
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I have both the slim and the Neo Hybrid...is the Neo Hybrid stronger?
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Had my new ATT Nexus 6 for not even two weeks and one small drop and BOOM ...entire screen shattered. What's sad is I have the Spigen slim case armor and it didn't protect it. I dropped it about 3 feet...on tile floor...landed flat on its back. I now have to fork out $200 bucks for a new one via ATT insurance. I just ordered a tempered glass protection for the screen hoping that this will help. Just a warning...these are very very fragile.
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Well realistically most mainstream phones are fragile, that's just the consequence of having a large glass display. It's really the luck of the draw of how it falls. My phone was naked (without any case) with a ill fitted tempered glass protector (due to curved screen) and it fell out of my pocket from about 2 feet onto a concrete floor and basically nothing happened to it. Realistically just some light scratches on the tempered glass and a very slight mark on the metal band.
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I have both the slim and the Neo Hybrid...is the Neo Hybrid stronger?
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Oh, I thought the slim was that dumb clear plastic one. Kinda odd that your phone broke in that case from that height. I would say you just got unlucky.
Does anyone know if the slim is stronger than the neo hybrid?
Sorry to hear man. I never drop phones but it can happen to anyone. Reading all these small drop stories has me extra careful.
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Does anyone know if the slim is stronger than the neo hybrid?
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I've had neo hybrid on my last 3 phones, note 3, nexus 5, and nexus 6. Many drops and my phone has always survived.
That's one reason why i ordered from play store. I have heard they replace it free of cost even if you accidentally shatter your screen.
Don't mind the troll, nothing but a troublemaker, I already reported his posts, this is a community to help each other and exchange information, not to give each other garbage. The OP was doing his job by looking out for us due to his unfortunate event.
To the OP, sorry to hear about your N6, we'll take your experience quite seriously as I'm sure there are others that has their screen shattered from a few feet of a drop
I don't think the outcome would have been any different with the Neo Hybrid. Both cases look pretty solid.
This is just one of those freak accidents that can be caused by a number of factorsl
$200 deductible for phone is just plain ridiculous.. Plus $10 per month... In the future I suggest SquareTrade for your insurance especially for accidental damaged.. I pay only 4.50 per month and the deductible is only $75... The only positive of these carriers insurances it covers theft but of course that's probably why you're paying double then what Square Trade charges
So just to clarify: you dropped your phone from chest height (on an small person), or waist height (on a taller person), onto ceramic tile, and you're angry at the phone manufacturer for making a "fragile" product? You are insane.
First off, gorilla glass is scratch resistant, not crack or shatter resistant. So there's no help there. Second, 3 feet is a huge distance for a heavy device covered in glass to fall. In case you're not so great at Physics, at this distance, your giant glass coated rectangle is travelling at roughly 10 mph by the time it smashes into your ceramic tile floor, which on the Mohs Harness Scale ranks a 7 out of freaking 10 (diamond is a 10). For perspective, this is the same speed that the average, non-professional cyclist flies down the street. Now imagine him plowing into a solid ceramic wall. (Yes, the mass is different, but the comparison serves).
In other words, you are either an entitled, petulant 12 year old child, or as poster #2 so crudely put it, you are literally retarded.
EDIT: It occurs to me that yes, glass is at around the same level on a Mohs scale. So while it isn't that ridiculous a difference, it's still at the appropriate hardness to shatter a glass object.
I didn't buy any of the spigen cases because to me they didn't look very protective. They are good looking cases tho!
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So just to clarify: you dropped your phone from chest height (on an small person), or waist height (on a taller person), onto ceramic tile, and you're angry at the phone manufacturer for making a "fragile" product? You are insane.
First off, gorilla glass is scratch resistant, not crack or shatter resistant. So there's no help there. Second, 3 feet is a huge distance for a heavy device covered in glass to fall. In case you're not so great at Physics, at this distance, your giant glass coated rectangle is travelling at roughly 10 mph by the time it smashes into your ceramic tile floor, which on the Mohs Harness Scale ranks a 7 out of freaking 10 (diamond is a 10). For perspective, this is the same speed that the average, non-professional cyclist flies down the street. Now imagine him plowing into a solid ceramic wall. (Yes, the mass is different, but the comparison serves).
In other words, you are either an entitled, petulant 12 year old child, or as poster #2 so crudely put it, you are literally retarded.
EDIT: It occurs to me that yes, glass is at around the same level on a Mohs scale. So while it isn't that ridiculous a difference, it's still at the appropriate hardness to shatter a glass object.
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You sir are ignorant. The moh's scale is a relative scale for scratch resistance relative to minerals. You, sir, are referring to brittle deformation and are in the wrong realm of mineral physics. So don't condescend people unless you know what you are talking about. Us geoscientists use moh's scales to identify other minerals based on scratching other objects in the field.
You're also referring to conservation of momentum and all kinds of stuff and your argument is all over the place. Yes, when your phone hits the ground m1v1=m2v2 has to be in play, but this isn't a wall and a human being,. A phone is pretty solid, and when glass breaks it's brittle deformation. Your phone bounces off the ground a little. The other parts of your phone may have plasticity. If interested, research into the difference between plastic and brittle deformation. Your glass doesn't break just because it hits something with a relative moh's hardness. It can break falling on grass.
Anyways, yeah holding a iPhone 4 compared to the Nexus 6, this thing is a beast, but I love it's big size. Sorry your screen broke OP! Serves as a warning cases don't solve everything!
Sorry to hear. The fact is... No matter the phone... If dropped just the right way... It will break. You can't escape this. Just gotta be careful.
I hope they make phones bigger, thinner and more fragile so all of you could learn to take care of it better.
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You sir are ignorant. The moh's scale is a relative scale for scratch resistance relative to minerals. You, sir, are referring to brittle deformation and are in the wrong realm of mineral physics. So don't condescend people unless you know what you are talking about. Us geoscientists use moh's scales to identify other minerals based on scratching other objects in the field.
You're also referring to conservation of momentum and all kinds of stuff and your argument is all over the place. Yes, when your phone hits the ground m1v1=m2v2 has to be in play, but this isn't a wall and a human being,. A phone is pretty solid, and when glass breaks it's brittle deformation. Your phone bounces off the ground a little. The other parts of your phone may have plasticity. If interested, research into the difference between plastic and brittle deformation. Your glass doesn't break just because it hits something with a relative moh's hardness. It can break falling on grass.
Anyways, yeah holding a iPhone 4 compared to the Nexus 6, this thing is a beast, but I love it's big size. Sorry your screen broke OP! Serves as a warning cases don't solve everything!
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Pure and utter ownage. Just fantastic.
That's why I rock The neo hybrid. Its a tank of a case.
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Had my new ATT Nexus 6 for not even two weeks and one small drop and BOOM ...entire screen shattered. What's sad is I have the Spigen slim case armor and it didn't protect it. I dropped it about 3 feet...on tile floor...landed flat on its back. I now have to fork out $200 bucks for a new one via ATT insurance. I just ordered a tempered glass protection for the screen hoping that this will help. Just a warning...these are very very fragile.
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Man im sorry. Ive been lucky and only shattered my N7 screen and ive had alot of phones. i had the slim armor on my N6 and it got launched across my bathroom at work and hit the wall and floor and somehow survived.
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What have been your experiences with Gorilla Glass 3? The unit on mine cracked with a minor drop, although given it was a drop suffered directly to the face. But a two week phone already cracked. I had better experiences with Gorilla Glass 2 on my galaxy s2
How do car windshields sometimes just chip and sometimes crack all the way across, with a similar sized hit from a rock?
I wouldn't blame your glass, just luck of the draw.
Plus isn't GG supposed to be scratch resistent(not that it totally is) moreso than impact resistent?
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What have been your experiences with Gorilla Glass 3? The unit on mine cracked with a minor drop, although given it was a drop suffered directly to the face. But a two week phone already cracked. I had better experiences with Gorilla Glass 2 on my galaxy s2
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Consider yourself lucky if you ONLY cracked the glass. A number of us, including myself, have had experiences where the OLED broke off a "minor drop". In all honesty, you were unlucky AND lucky. If the phone still operates and you can look past the obvious cosmetic blemish (or scar, however you'd like to see it), then ride it out until the price of Gorilla 3 glass comes down. At least you may still have something that operates. Better that then seeing your phone go completely black.
One more note: can you show us where the phone landed on? I'm willing to bet 100 internets that it landed on the sides or corners. A large number of people here have had face down drops and come up clean (as in flat impact on flat surface.)
That sucks bro, I work a pretty labor intensive construction job and I keep my phone in an otterbox with the provided otterbox screen protector. I have dropped my s4 from roof to basement (roughly a 30 foot drop) and my phone is still unscathed. Same with the s3 I had for about a year and a bit. Probably dropped it 200 times, never had a problem. Just lucky I guess.
i guess it really depends how the phone drops, my friend also work in construction, he dropped his S3 from the 3rd step of a ladder last years and it shattered, his S4 fell from the top of a similar ladder and had a very slight chip on the plastic strip around the phone but no screen damage. Corner shots can be especially deadly
You guys need to quit playing around with your phones while at work. That's the problem - your punishment for goofing off.
Lol (just joking)
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You guys need to quit playing around with your phones while at work. That's the problem - your punishment for goofing off.
Lol (just joking)
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No but i do agree. If you're careless, or accidentally drop the phone, you should be responsible for your acts, i have dropped my phone a few times before, thankfully, nothing ever happened, but if one day it does, the only person i'll blame is myself, not the construction of the phone, and definitely not gorilla glass 3. It's a phone, not a tank. Nothing is ever specified in any documentation that the phone is supposed to resist any drop.
Gorilla Glass will soon be a thing of the past
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIu1_zoLRgE
Samsung's flexible display is awesome.
My experiences were good for the first 30 hours of my phone ownership, although I guess I can't be too upset at a thin piece of glass shattering upon contact with concrete.
Is there any clear cut way to tell the difference between a broken digitizer and just a broken glass? I can touch anywhere on the screen and it works fine, until I get a shard of Gorilla Glass in my thumb... I could always just shell out $220 for a whole new assembly, but I'd really rather not considering I spent a good amount of my check last week getting the phone.
ouch, you should be more careful.
The glass and digitizer are built together. You will need to buy them both built together. Disassembling the phone isn't too difficult though if you are good with fixing things you might be able to install it yourself.
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Is there any clear cut way to tell the difference between a broken digitizer and just a broken glass? I can touch anywhere on the screen and it works fine, until I get a shard of Gorilla Glass in my thumb
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When the digitizer is broken the touch capabilities don't work. It rarely breaks as its a piece of material more than anything
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What have been your experiences with Gorilla Glass 3? The unit on mine cracked with a minor drop, although given it was a drop suffered directly to the face. But a two week phone already cracked. I had better experiences with Gorilla Glass 2 on my galaxy s2
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I dropped mine when getting out of the backseat of an SUV. I had the phone in my lap, forgot it was there, slid out and heard a loud SMACK on the rocky asphalt. I looked below and saw my phone laying screen down upon the dirty, New York stone parking lot. I reluctantly bent down and sighed, resigning myself to a $650 charge on my credit card next time I hit up an AT&T store. I picked it up to inspect the damage and...
Nothing. It was perfect as the day I took it out of the box. <3 GG3
Dropped it On a tile floor, bounced around, and very minimal damage.. Dropped from my hand without a case so 4-5 foot drop. The chrome dented where it dropped and the glass sorta cracked/chipped a layer.. There are no breaks, just a small area of damage.. Was quite scared that more damage would be inflicted based on some of the criticisms going around about the poor build
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Gorilla Glass will soon be a thing of the past
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIu1_zoLRgE
Samsung's flexible display is awesome.
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If the material is soft enough to be flexible I doubt how scratch-resistant it is going to be, and would a screen protector even stay on? I predict people whining about scratches.
I dont want to start a war on naked vs protected - that can happen elsewhere. My question is really just how much can gorilla glass 4 handle? Again, any drop could break any phone but what about scratches? Is throwing the 6p naked in a bag that might have keys, coins, etc. going to scratch the screen?
If you're that worried about scratches pay the extra $10 for a decent glass protector. As always refer to the mohs scale, anything harder than glass will scratch it (even if it is Gorilla Glass).
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If you're that worried about scratches pay the extra $10 for a decent glass protector. As always refer to the mohs scale, anything harder than glass will scratch it (even if it is Gorilla Glass).
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I appreciate your advice but really would like to focus on real world situations and gorilla glass 4, not the "just cover it"
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I appreciate your advice but really would like to focus on real world situations and gorilla glass 4, not the "just cover it"
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he basically was citing real world. sand will scratch the glass regardless of how hard it is. corning released some promotional videos on what GG4 is capable of, but i wouldn't use it as gospel. at the end of the day, you have a glass device.
i've left my m360 naked since day one and it has GG3 on it. it definitely has scratches from everyday use and has never been in a pocket with keys, etc. just from bumps from objects, etc.
i'm considering leaving the body of the phone naked, but i WILL have a screen protector of some sort.
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I appreciate your advice but really would like to focus on real world situations and gorilla glass 4, not the "just cover it"
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Well, he did kind of answer your question. On the Mohs scale of hardness (which is a terrible system to use in this case), I think GG4 comes in at about a 5.5? Something along those lines. Basically, what this means is that anything harder than that will scratch the glass. Sand (silicon and quartz), hardened steel alloys, tungsten, titanium, corundum (sapphires/rubies) and diamonds are all good examples of what will scratch it.
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Anything equal to, or harder, than x on mohs scale will scratch x
And gg4 is supposed to be 7 on mohs scale
The best example of a 7 is quartz
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Just for clarification
Anything equal to, or harder, than x on mohs scale will scratch x
And gg4 is supposed to be 7 on mohs scale
The best example of a 7 is quartz
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I'm just curious where you found 7 as the hardness. Doing a cursory search on google resulted in no factual data. I'd like to get some kind of idea where it sits on the scale, although as I said, it is a terrible scale to use.
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I dont want to start a war on naked vs protected - that can happen elsewhere. My question is really just how much can gorilla glass 4 handle? Again, any drop could break any phone but what about scratches? Is throwing the 6p naked in a bag that might have keys, coins, etc. going to scratch the screen?
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Yes so better buy a screen protector.
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I'm just curious where you found 7 as the hardness. Doing a cursory search on google resulted in no factual data. I'd like to get some kind of idea where it sits on the scale, although as I said, it is a terrible scale to use.
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Why the interweb of course!
Most specific number I saw was 6.8 - but close enough, especially for a comparison using mohs.
Which isn't really a bad way to demonstrate is scratch resistance.
Everybody should know moh (ooh - I made a funny!), I was taught in like 6th or 7th grade. It always fascinated me for some reason.
I thought the whole point of the tempered glass protectors was to protect against head on impact. Will they really provide any benefit on a naked phone getting dropped on its side or back or corner?
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I know sand scratched up my Nexus 6 (GG3) .took it to the beach :crying:
Um. Glass is glass, it can scratch and it can break. If this concerns you take $3 and buy a screen protector. I've run cheap plastic (not sure why people cover breakable glass with more breakable glass...) Protectors on all my phones and they always resale for top dollar due to conditions. Just protect it
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I'm planning to buy a screen protector as well. I've never used one before so I guess I need a bit of your opinions here!
A friend of mine got some "high definition" foil protector on his HTC One M7. I hate it because it doesn't feel as smooth when navigating on the screen as it does without any protection.
Therefore I got the idea with tempered glass on my new phone, just because it feels like being "naked". I would prefer a protection foil though because of its thinness.
Is there any foil manufacturer providing a foil which feels like normal glass or something like that? I mean... Just like there's nothing on the phone?
Then I would probably going with this one.
Thanks in advance!
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Um. Glass is glass, it can scratch and it can break. If this concerns you take $3 and buy a screen protector. I've run cheap plastic (not sure why people cover breakable glass with more breakable glass...) Protectors on all my phones and they always resale for top dollar due to conditions. Just protect it
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I'm completely in agreement - glass will scratch. Cheap protectors were all I used for a while. All I wanted was a disposable scratch deterrent.
BUT - the naked glass feel is so much better than plastic. I came to the point where putting a TGSP protector on to get that feel became worth the $ spent. I have no misconceptions on what it is there to do - disposable scratch deterrent. If I drop it and the screen cracks from a corner impact, there's nothing a screen protector could have done to prevent it, plastic or otherwise. Gotta be realistic about it, you know? It's not bullet/explosion/hammer/superman proof, despite the ridiculous advertising to the contrary.
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Why the interweb of course!
Most specific number I saw was 6.8 - but close enough, especially for a comparison using mohs.
Which isn't really a bad way to demonstrate is scratch resistance.
Everybody should know moh (ooh - I made a funny!), I was taught in like 6th or 7th grade. It always fascinated me for some reason.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTIaUH6PIvo
I've used picks like those before. That seems valid. While the rest of the review is crap, imo, the hardness test is interesting as it shows a Mohs hardness of the GG4 as between 5 to 6.
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I've used picks like those before. That seems valid. While the rest of the review is crap, imo, the hardness test is interesting as it shows a Mohs hardness of the GG4 as between 5 to 6.
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Lol - I saw that. Only reason I did was cuz I get a laugh at how, and why, folks destroy something. It gets hits I guess, I'm sure that was its purpose, like many other smash this or that vids.
Mohs, with the picks anyway, is a pretty general test. I've used it many times in the field when trying to determined, in general, a rock sample.
For a device like a phone, all ya really need to worry about is what would be in a pocket or purse for the ladies out there. For the most part that's some sort of steel, or coin metal. Stainless ranges between 5.5 and 6.5, so as long as it's above that, we're good. An emery board in a purse would be disastrous.
Oh, and I'm seeing this often when referring to mohs. Many say, for instance, anything above a 7 will scratch a 7, we all know this to be true. The forgotten part is anything equal to a 7 will scratch a 7 - ie - diamond will scratch diamond, quartz will scratch quartz.
So in the video, gg4 appears to be between about 6.5 and 7. It is scratched by 7, but not by the blade, which I'll assume to be strong steel, say 6.5.
The stated 6.8 sounds about right to me.
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Oh, and I'm seeing this often when referring to mohs. Many say, for instance, anything above a 7 will scratch a 7, we all know this to be true. The forgotten part is anything equal to a 7 will scratch a 7 - ie - diamond will scratch diamond, quartz will scratch quartz.
So in the video, gg4 appears to be between about 6.5 and 7. It is scratched by 7, but not by the blade, which I'll assume to be strong steel, say 6.5.
The stated 6.8 sounds about right to me.
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Wait, think about that. The 6H pick did scratch the glass. It can't be 6.8 if a 6 pick will scratch it.
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Wait, think about that. The 6H pick did scratch the glass. It can't be 6.8 if a 6 pick will scratch it.
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Watch the video again. It left a faint mark, but I didn't see any "scratch".
The faint mark was probably the oil resistant coating.
Currently I'm using an S5 without any cases or covers, and it's still drop-proof, dropped it multiple times on hard floor/concrete and there is no damage on the screen what so ever. And before that I had an HTC One X, which is probably more similar to the Edge in that the screen isn't protected if it drops face down, I did eventually crack it with that kind of a drop. However the edge is gonna be even more problematic because even the back is glass, and no plastic protruding edge to protect it.
Sure I could put it in a bulky case but then it kind of defeats the purpose of having one of the most premium feeling phones ever doesn't it? It'll also negate any ergonomic benefits of the curved back edge as well as the ease of edge swipe on the front edge. Might as well just get something like a.... I don't know, nobody makes high end plastic phones anymore now days, even cheap phones like One Plus is front+back curved glass. Also this thing is already a bigger phone than what I'm used to, adding a beefy case is just gonna make it that much bigger, which I do not like.
Well I guess plenty of people did survive the iPhone 4 glass sandwich era just fine, I'll just have to wish myself luck. I wonder how much would one of those adhesive skins help in a drop situation. Sure they are very thin but if think about the physics of it, gorilla glass is actually quite flexible so it doesn't break from the acceleration of the impact itself, so thinness doesn't really matter. What actually breaks these surface hardens glass is usually a microscopic failure on the surface developing into a big crack. And those microscopic failures can happen when they make contact with sharp hard stuff like individual sand particles, they effectively puncture the surface and develop a weakness. So if you have a skin on the glass, what'll hopefully happen instead is that the skin will be thick enough for the particle to not make direct contact with the glass, and prevent breaking. Even though such thin skins cannot significantly reduce the impact acceleration.
I understand your points, but please, don't ever try to use this phone naked. You NEED a case, the grip is so bad that dropping it is almost a guarantee and the back glass seems to be much more fragile than the front glass from what I have seen in videos. About the cases, you may want to look into the Samsung official plastic backs or (when available) the leather backs. The official plastic back cases from Samsung are the only ones (in my opinion) that really do not ruin the phone's design, the design remains almost intact. However, while the grip is much improved over the naked phone, it is nowhere near other bulky and rubberized cases. A rubberized plastic wrap would be a solution, but the big problem still remains - the metal sides of the phone which are very narrow.
PS: As I understand from the latest spy pics, the iPhone 7 will have a glass back again...probably needed for radio/charging/payment/other secret developments.
There are plenty of case available that won't make the phone look s**t. I'm using a Spigen Crystal Clear, a very good combination of protection and looks. It's impossible to completely keep the phone's look and feel, but it's probably as close as possible whilst being confident of being able to accidentally drop it from pocket height without damage.
Glass protectors on these curved screens are to be avoided, that's my personal opinion anyway. My brother bought numerous types of these for his S6 Edge (expensive and cheap) and not one went on properly without raising on the curves within twenty minutes, causing touch problems on the edges. Go for a good quality film type like a Zagg HD Dry.
I copied you entirely mate I'm not ashamed to say. Got my Spigen Crystal Clear yesterday and, your right, it does look good, but not as good as the nekkid phone itself. But I guess that's the price of good protection.
Just waiting for my Zagg HD Dry front and back covers to arrive today.
I'm personally using Otter Box Commuter for me and my wife's phone. I was able to try it on in store before purchasing. I was sort of desperate for a case on delivery day and it was the most protective case I found. I'm happy with it overall. It's sleep and slim and although the whole front in uncovered it does have raised top and bottom edges so if the phone falls flat the screen doesn't actually touch the floor.
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Use it naked.
Control your fingers.
nobnut said:
Use it naked.
Control your fingers.
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Too risky lol
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I would love to use the phone naked as it just looks so good, but I am scared to risk it. I have never dropped and cracked a phone, and I had an Iphone 4S without a case for 2 years which were well known for getting smashed, I have a clear case on the edge at the moment to offer it some protection.
Carrying and using smart phones without any case is just asking for trouble. I have the S7 Edge and when it arrived on March 2nd it stayed at home in the box until my Spigen Ultra Hybrid case arrived (which was a few days later). I was still using my S5 because I didn't want to take any chances.
After my case arrived I put it on but I still keep the original plastic film on the screen because I was waiting for my Skinomi screen protector to arrive. My Skinomi arrived yesterday and I installed it last night.
So if you don't want a bulky case get the Spigen Ultra Hybrid (I went with the crystal clear color). I ordered my case and screen protector from Amazon. The case is very nice looking and doesn't add any bulk to the phone.
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but I still keep the original plastic film on
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Oh my.
I'm using this case. It's amazing. Thin, easy to grip and not too expensive.
http://www.bodyguardz.com/unequal-shock-case-samsung-galaxy-s7-edge.html
I use the phone naked and dropped it from about 3,5 feet, first it hit the steel base of a table and than it bounced on a wooden floor, not a scratch :angel:
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I use the phone naked and dropped it from about 3,5 feet, first it hit the steel base of a table and than it bounced on a wooden floor, not a scratch :angel:
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Q.E.D.
Looks like Gorilla Glass on Axon 7 is not tough enough, I broker my screen this weekend. Was in museum and phone fell from my hand onto a wooden floor of museum, and screen is shattered. Although it is functional and working, the screen glass is broken. I think I'm bit less impressed with the screen toughness of this thing. A phone fell from hand roughly 5 feet above ground, onto a floor and it shatters the glass. Am I covered by Axon 2 year warranty on this one or I need to get it fixed on my own ?
My wife's S7 edge fell a foot and the screen shattered in 2 places. The worst piece of **** I've seen.
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Always get a tempered glass protector!
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Always get a tempered glass protector!
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lmao, thx to 2.5d glass there arent any fitting ones yet
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Looks like Gorilla Glass on Axon 7 is not tough enough, I broker my screen this weekend. Was in museum and phone fell from my hand onto a wooden floor of museum, and screen is shattered. Although it is functional and working, the screen glass is broken. I think I'm bit less impressed with the screen toughness of this thing. A phone fell from hand roughly 5 feet above ground, onto a floor and it shatters the glass. Am I covered by Axon 2 year warranty on this one or I need to get it fixed on my own ?
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A five foot fall onto a wooden floor would crack most screens unless the phone was in a rugged case.
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A five foot fall onto a wooden floor would crack most screens unless the phone was in a rugged case.
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Agreed. It's "GLASS", not iron. And hard glass is difficult to scratch but is brittle. Do people not understand hardness? Lol
The harder a substance is the more difficult it is to scratch but also the harder something is the more brittle it is.
Tungsten is a very hard metal... But people don't realize if you drop a pure tungsten ring it most likely will shatter. Same concept.
If you want glass that isn't super brittle it will scratch easier. If you want glass that won't scratch it will be brittle. Until we find some kind of super glass this is how it will be.
That's pretty much result as expected.....
You can RMA but they probably charge you a deductible as it would consider an accident.
Locklear308 said:
Agreed. It's "GLASS", not iron. And hard glass is difficult to scratch but is brittle. Do people not understand hardness? Lol
The harder a substance is the more difficult it is to scratch but also the harder something is the more brittle it is.
Tungsten is a very hard metal... But people don't realize if you drop a pure tungsten ring it most likely will shatter. Same concept.
If you want glass that isn't super brittle it will scratch easier. If you want glass that won't scratch it will be brittle. Until we find some kind of super glass this is how it will be.
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Pure tungsten is ductile. polycrystalline tungsten is brittle.
Interesting, I'm seeing tests on youtube for iPhone 6s and Galaxy Edge being drop tested without any major issue from as high as 10-12 feet. I will RMA it with ZTE but was surprised about it not surviving it this little fall.
mjoshi123 said:
Interesting, I'm seeing tests on youtube for iPhone 6s and Galaxy Edge being drop tested without any major issue from as high as 10-12 feet. I will RMA it with ZTE but was surprised about it not surviving it this little fall.
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Much of it depends on the angle of impact. I know several people who have cracked their Galaxy Edges on fairly benign drops. Almost everybody I know with an iPhone (not that many) have at least one crack in the screen, but since it doesn't impair usage they often just keep on using the phone.
kidnova said:
Much of it depends on the angle of impact.
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Exactly. A drop is not a drop and the angle is much more important than the height.
imp3r10 said:
Pure tungsten is ductile. polycrystalline tungsten is brittle.
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Never heard about that nor learned about it in college, but that's also probably one of the reasons I stopped going because they don't really teach you anything nowadays. Anyway I digress, the harder a substance is the more brittle it will become.
I mean look at Diamonds, the hardest substance known to man and yet it can be shattered quite easily
interesting comparison
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GU8S_BjByKU
People don't understand Gorilla Glass. It's not about how strong it is, but how scratch resistant. And believe me, Gorilla Glass 4 is REALLY scratch resistant. Everyone could possible break when dropped on a wooden floor.
Do you come under the 6 month screen repair?
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People don't understand Gorilla Glass. It's not about how strong it is, but how scratch resistant. And believe me, Gorilla Glass 4 is REALLY scratch resistant. Everyone could possible break when dropped on a wooden floor.
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Which is why I'm glad the Axon 7 uses it instead of the easily scratched Gorilla Glass 5. I don't care in the least about shatter resistant, I don't drop my phones, ever. However I do want to be able to use my phone without an oil magnet (aka screen protector) so it's super important to me that it be scratch resistant as possible. That's why I'm hoping there will eventually be sapphire screens (though it seems unlikely). I was pleasantly surprised to hear that the A7's camera lens is covered by sapphire.
Seeing as how the Axon 7 design is very similar to the htc one m8, this gripe is justified, if you ask me. The lack of edge to edge glass creates a buffer between the corners of the phone and the edge of the glass. I dropped my htc one m8 flat on concrete, more than once, and not a scratch. I was hoping the Axon 7 would have the same type of durability.
gorilla glass is not shatterproof just like Moto Droid turbo 2/X force/Z force . these phones have such a great shatterproof glass. have a look https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-V2r_9Um2Tw
All of these iphone screens are cracked:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFUlz_BTby8
ankithonda said:
gorilla glass is not shatterproof just like Moto Droid turbo 2/X force/Z force . these phones have such a great shatterproof glass. have a look https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-V2r_9Um2Tw
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That is not shatter proof "glass" it's plastic. I know because I just sold one.
Hey guys,
So a bad day!! My s7 edge fell out of my hand when getting out of my car in a mall parking lot and fell face first. I picked it up and saw the whole front screen is shattered, 3 web cracks and the crack goes all the way to the edge. It was even in a case....is the phone this fragile? Don't remember my note being like that, it dropped from a higher height and it never cracked? Anyway should I just go for fonelab to repair it or try asurion? I am in Canada. I really hope the s8 isn't as fragile. Using the nexus 6p at the moment.
It's actually Gorilla Glass 5. The problem with Gorilla Glass 5 is that while it retains the scratch resistance of 4, it's thinner and lighter, which sacrifices overall strength. Since nowadays slimmer and lighter phones are the ones that sell and reviewers will bash your flagship if it's heavy and thick, this is what happens.
You could try looking into Motorola for your next phone. They're not using Gorilla but an im house produced glass that's advertised as shatterproof.
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Actually, it's Gorilla Glass 4: https://www.corning.com/gorillaglas...h-gorilla/samsung/samsung-galaxy-s7-edge.html
I think the curved edges do make this screen more fragile than other phones. Not because the glass is any more fragile, but because the edge design makes it more likely the glass will impact something when you drop the phone. But every impact is unique. You could drop a phone onto concrete multiple times without problems, then drop it from a lower height onto a wood floor, and have it hit just right and shatter.
Are you already paying for Assurian insurance? If so, why not use it? See how much getting it repaired costs compared to Assurian's deductible.
meyerweb said:
Actually, it's Gorilla Glass 4: https://www.corning.com/gorillaglas...h-gorilla/samsung/samsung-galaxy-s7-edge.html
I think the curved edges do make this screen more fragile than other phones. Not because the glass is any more fragile, but because the edge design makes it more likely the glass will impact something when you drop the phone. But every impact is unique. You could drop a phone onto concrete multiple times without problems, then drop it from a lower height onto a wood floor, and have it hit just right and shatter.
Are you already paying for Assurian insurance? If so, why not use it? See how much getting it repaired costs compared to Assurian's deductible.
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Well glass 4 is still thinner than 3.
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EternalSeekerX said:
Hey guys,
So a bad day!! My s7 edge fell out of my hand when getting out of my car in a mall parking lot and fell face first. I picked it up and saw the whole front screen is shattered, 3 web cracks and the crack goes all the way to the edge. It was even in a case....is the phone this fragile? Don't remember my note being like that, it dropped from a higher height and it never cracked? Anyway should I just go for fonelab to repair it or try asurion? I am in Canada. I really hope the s8 isn't as fragile. Using the nexus 6p at the moment.
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Sorry about the mishap man. It happened to me several months ago while leisurely cycling. The phone was in an LED cover, out of which popped out upon hitting the road easier than a soap bubble. I guess I was lucky enough that only the back glass cracked and the front screen wasn't damaged. But that too made me think that these glasses are way much more fragile than what is being advertised. I'd rather think of it as "potato chips" glass rather than "gorilla" glass.
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It's actually Gorilla Glass 5. The problem with Gorilla Glass 5 is that while it retains the scratch resistance of 4, it's thinner and lighter, which sacrifices overall strength. Since nowadays slimmer and lighter phones are the ones that sell and reviewers will bash your flagship if it's heavy and thick, this is what happens.
You could try looking into Motorola for your next phone. They're not using Gorilla but an im house produced glass that's advertised as shatterproof.
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I will be looking into build quality for my next phone for sure but I am waiting for MWC because I am still partial to the note series.
meyerweb said:
Actually, it's Gorilla Glass 4: https://www.corning.com/gorillaglas...h-gorilla/samsung/samsung-galaxy-s7-edge.html
I think the curved edges do make this screen more fragile than other phones. Not because the glass is any more fragile, but because the edge design makes it more likely the glass will impact something when you drop the phone. But every impact is unique. You could drop a phone onto concrete multiple times without problems, then drop it from a lower height onto a wood floor, and have it hit just right and shatter.
Are you already paying for Assurian insurance? If so, why not use it? See how much getting it repaired costs compared to Assurian's deductible.
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Well glass 4 is still thinner than 3.
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Is GG5 thinner than both 4 or 3? I swear my note 7 was pretty sturdy, it survived a drop on wood floor. I am paying only $10/month on my dad's and sisters line so i have to go through their line which I am the account holder anyway. They said its $149 but they do not guarantee the same device. Depends on stock. Also I don't think refurbished units guarantee IP68 anymore either, so idk. Does samsung repair screens if I contact a service center? Maybe they will preserve the ip68 rating?
AliXDev said:
Sorry about the mishap man. It happened to me several months ago while leisurely cycling. The phone was in an LED cover, out of which popped out upon hitting the road easier than a soap bubble. I guess I was lucky enough that only the back glass cracked and the front screen wasn't damaged. But that too made me think that these glasses are way much more fragile than what is being advertised. I'd rather think of it as "potato chips" glass rather than "gorilla" glass.
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It surprised me! I usually don't drop phones, and for the odd chance I do, all my phones survived accept this one....
meyerweb said:
Actually, it's Gorilla Glass 4: https://www.corning.com/gorillaglas...h-gorilla/samsung/samsung-galaxy-s7-edge.html
I think the curved edges do make this screen more fragile than other phones. Not because the glass is any more fragile, but because the edge design makes it more likely the glass will impact something when you drop the phone. But every impact is unique. You could drop a phone onto concrete multiple times without problems, then drop it from a lower height onto a wood floor, and have it hit just right and shatter.
Are you already paying for Assurian insurance? If so, why not use it? See how much getting it repaired costs compared to Assurian's deductible.
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Yes im paying for asurion on all my lines . The deductible is $149 CDN plus tax. Though it depends on the stock and what available to them. I might get a similar device and it could be new but no garuentees. The thing that worries me a bit is it the phone I get will retain ip68 and if it will have scratches since I kept good care of my device .