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If the SGX540 in P1000 can be overclocked to 370MHz, the performance of it can be highly improved like in Overcome Kernel.
(Can be showed in Quadrant Standard Edition. When it is in 370 MHz, the fps in the graphic animation of DNA can be promoted to 60fps. And got no lagging in anything. The speed(smoothness is nearly reached S2 which is official 2.3.6)
But however, it doesn't seem that any ICS supporting kernel can set the clock of GPU.
I am sorry that my English is not good enough to represent my idea, but I hope you can get what I am talking about.
And the most reason I want it to be real is that the potential of P1000 is quite big and in fact it is quite good!
PS Antutu SetCPU app can set GPU clock in Overcome Kernel.
Dang, I never knew that our GPU can be overclocked ^^
since this tab is getting old, maybe its time to overclock the gpu also?
Personally I'm agree with this
Probs a little off topic, (also to bump this up a bit)
But the Gnex which uses the same GPU can be overclocked to 512Mhz (Stock is 300 something I think), improvement seems noticeable in apps and in nenamark, you go from 27-28ish FPS to 31-32.
It would really help the tab, it seems to show age now (which makes me lust over a 7.7......)
What I knew is the potential of SGX540 in GNexus and GT are different.
GT one is 200MHz and GNexus one is 374MHz.
In Overcome Kernel w/ GT, the clock of SGX540 can be set to 370~38X Mhz w/ no crush but when it is 400MHz , the machine is seemed to be lagged.
The benchmark in Overcome 4.1 plus Overcome Kernel 4.0 can be promoted over the GT 7.7 (of course the mark doesn't represent the real using experience but let's just look at the 3D mark)
http: / / i729.photobucket.com/albums/ww300/ngtinching/SC20120401-173417.jpg
edwardplus said:
What I knew is the potential of SGX540 in GNexus and GT are different.
GT one is 200MHz and GNexus one is 374MHz.
In Overcome Kernel w/ GT, the clock of SGX540 can be set to 370~38X Mhz w/ no crush but when it is 400MHz , the machine is seemed to be lagged.
The benchmark in Overcome 4.1 plus Overcome Kernel 4.0 can be promoted over the GT 7.7 (of course the mark doesn't represent the real using experience but let's just look at the 3D mark)
http: / / i729.photobucket.com/albums/ww300/ngtinching/SC20120401-173417.jpg
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Haha, yea I know they have different potentials Just that I thought I'd let you guys know how much better overclocking the GPU would be.
I think its worth it, there is little impact on battery life, but the improvements in apps and usage are noticeable.
FC1032 said:
Haha, yea I know they have different potentials Just that I thought I'd let you guys know how much better overclocking the GPU would be.
I think its worth it, there is little impact on battery life, but the improvements in apps and usage are noticeable.
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I think the battery usage for extra cost of GPU is not as high as CPU.
It is being a great difference if we compared the overclocking for either CPU and GPU.
The consumption of GPU is low and it won't make the device hot as CPU overclocking.
And the temperature can keep around 35 to 36 degree Celsius under a room temperature 20 Degree Celsius.
The result screenshot I have posted is undergoing CPU overclocked (1.4GHz) plus GPU overclocked(370MHz) w/ overcome kernel and rom.
Success!!!
edwardplus said:
If the SGX540 in P1000 can be overclocked to 370MHz, the performance of it can be highly improved like in Overcome Kernel.
(Can be showed in Quadrant Standard Edition. When it is in 370 MHz, the fps in the graphic animation of DNA can be promoted to 60fps. And got no lagging in anything. The speed(smoothness is nearly reached S2 which is official 2.3.6)
But however, it doesn't seem that any ICS supporting kernel can set the clock of GPU.
I am sorry that my English is not good enough to represent my idea, but I hope you can get what I am talking about.
And the most reason I want it to be real is that the potential of P1000 is quite big and in fact it is quite good!
PS Antutu SetCPU app can set GPU clock in Overcome Kernel.
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Hello, i have been trying to implement LiveOC into humberos's kernel and it is a success
LiveOC
This allows us to modify the bus speed which increase both the cpu and gpu clock at the same time using an app called NStools
i have only been using this for a day now and it seems to be working very well
please report back any bugs thank you,
BTW i will post the settings i have used in NStools and this kernel is for the latest MTD build
Link: http://www.4shared.com/file/216rF_WJ/boot.html?
My settings:
Governor: smartassV2
min CPU freq: 200MHz (240MHz after applying OC Value)
Max CPU freq: 1000MHz (1200MHz after applying OC Value)
OC target low: 200MHz
OC target high: 1000MHz
OC Value: 120%
hello20 said:
Hello, i have been trying to implement LiveOC into humberos's kernel and it is a success
LiveOC
This allows us to modify the bus speed which increase both the cpu and gpu clock at the same time using an app called NStools
i have only been using this for a day now and it seems to be working very well
please report back any bugs thank you,
BTW i will post the settings i have used in NStools and this kernel is for the latest MTD build
Link: http://www.4shared.com/file/216rF_WJ/boot.html?
My settings:
Governor: smartassV2
min CPU freq: 200MHz (240MHz after applying OC Value)
Max CPU freq: 1000MHz (1200MHz after applying OC Value)
OC target low: 200MHz
OC target high: 1000MHz
OC Value: 120%
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I'll give that a try when I get home (or maybe a few days later). So which ICS rom did you try this on?
EDIT: In terms of quadrant (which I know can be a bit volatile... but a nice way/quick way to see differences), ICS gets a lower mem score :< 3d is slightly lower, 2d is about double (I suspect thats forcing 2d rendering). This is comparing the gtab score in quadrant, I haven't used GB on my tab for a longgg time...)
how can i implement the boot.img file into the system???
tidusdacapo said:
how can i implement the boot.img file into the system???
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This kernel is one i did 2 months ago and since then it has been updated. the kernel is in my most recent ROM
henryedwardrose said:
This kernel is one i did 2 months ago and since then it has been updated. the kernel is in my most recent ROM
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thanks for the information
as a newbie, i just thought another aokp by stimpz0r is identical
there is a strange point which is the fc of the camera while the shutter sound is closed, but it works while enabling the shutter sound
It is a great rom and thank you for your great work
Running SMOOTH 4.3 + Motley, the ROM post here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1899024 claims about 5800 quadrant score on this combo, but I'm still hitting about 3700 only. Any ideas?
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Running SMOOTH 4.3 + Motley, the ROM post here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1899024 claims about 5800 quadrant score on this combo, but I'm still hitting about 3700 only. Any ideas?
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not that quadrant is important or anything like that, but youre doing it wrong.
1. set your cpu speed to highest cpu speed high/higest cpu speed low.
2. ondemand or interactive governor, deadline scheduler.
3. turn off fsync.
4. disable hotpugging/enable all four cores(i don't know if motley kernel has this feature).
5. enable gpu rendering in the devices main settings, developer options.
6. 5800 is weaksauce
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not that quadrant is important or anything like that, but youre doing it wrong.
1. set your cpu speed to highest cpu speed high/higest cpu speed low.
2. ondemand or interactive governor, deadline scheduler.
3. turn off fsync.
4. disable hotpugging/enable all four cores(i don't know if motley kernel has this feature).
5. enable gpu rendering in the devices main settings, developer options.
6. 5800 is weaksauce
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Indeed, quadrant doesn't really matter. I get more than 7000, running smoothROM and m-kernel, but you shouldn't care about that score as long as your device is running nice and smooth.
as long as your tablet is running all the apps you want smoothly and quickly with no lags, you're fine with what it is. I'm using smoothrom and motley and it's perfect for what I need it to do. just enjoy the tablet before you end up bricking it.:good:
Hello,
I'm sorry if i'm annoyng with my problem (i posted the same thing in a different thread, but pointless), but I didn't find a solution.
Ok then, i have the following problem: I noticed that i have a relatively low performance in some demanding games, like Modern Combat 4, or Dark Knight Rises. Allright, i decided to install a new kernel that allows me to modify the frequencies, so I tried Trinity alpha4 (the last prelease version, donno exactly). After overclocking (CPU at 1700mhz and GPU at 750mhz), i did some comparisons. In ES Basemark, before OC my device was able to run the benchmark with an average of 13.05. After OC, fps was almost 20 (19.70). As I have seen, this tablet is able to obtain a higher score, somewhere around 28 fps.
My question is (are):
1. What should I try to improve this crappy performance?
2. Could be a hardware issue, or it's just software's fault?
3. Is there any difference between my version (32gb WiFi) and 3G?
4. Again, what should I do? I'm tired of trying different roms and kernels.
Thank you very much!
1. you can oc your gpu with trinity kernel
2. your score is normal, even better than most. use a different benchmark app, and youll get different scores.
3. there are differences, but they don't affect your es basemark score.
4. enjoy your device. if its gaming, play tegra3 optimized games
simms22 said:
1. you can oc your gpu with trinity kernel
2. your score is normal, even better than most. use a different benchmark app, and youll get different scores.
3. there are differences, but they don't affect your es basemark score.
4. enjoy your device. if its gaming, play tegra3 optimized games
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1. I use Trickster Mod. I think it does the same thing like Trinity Kernel.
2. I noticed (to other devices) that the performance is scaling better with increasing GPU frequency. Theoretically, I was supposed to get an average of 28 fps with my clocks, but instead, my device does not pass 20.
PS: Is there any way (application, mod, kernel etc) that would allow me to edit graphics quality for Tegra 3? Something like chainfire3d.
Forgive me for being so insistent, but I really need some help. Please.
ivGr said:
Forgive me for being so insistent, but I really need some help. Please.
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Have you tried installing custom Roms? By the way, try installing M-kernel and use Performance governor if you are into gaming. Also, some games are just not optimized for Nexus 7, like the Dark knight game. It lags so much on many platforms, not only N7.
while I realize that many people hate benchmarks the truth in my humble opinion as a windows hacker and android enthusiast is that benchmarks, run properly, can tell you a whole lot. there is some variances but usually that is from screen brightness settings, running at different core temps, background apps, widgets, and waving the accelerometer around like you just don't care lol. and you can say all you want to synthetic means nothing but the fact is even manufacturer's use benchmarks in their testing of new chips as well. just look at the current benchmarks from sd 600 vs sd 800 from qualcom. so I have decided to carefully benchmark every kernel myself to find what gives ME the best user expieriance. maybe it will help the dev's, maybe not. maybe it will help you, maybe you hate my dog and want to skin my cat.
a benchmark can tell you how well the kernel makes use of the hardware so for testing purposes I have used stock rom on all tests. I have set up my cold box for testing so that the cpu and gpu do not suffer and return quickly to normal and have set brightness at 50. testing is done stationary against the back of the cold box proped so that cool air flows over the systemboard. for testing purposes there is only the stock clock widget and micro cpu monitor and a few battery temp/sytem stats apps running. after each benchmark the tablet memory was swept. all benchmarks were run 3 times and the highest score given is used here unless there was a wild varient and then it was tracked down and all benches ran again. after contemplating it i ran some of these plugged up to the ac on my cold box and sometimes i forgot to plug it up. and some using debugging but i honestly doubt that had an effect. so at any rate my benches will probably be a little lower than yours on all these kernels as im running stuff to keep me informed in the background
im also not really comparing custom kernels to one another but I do to stock kernel, every last one of them are great and offer a lot of features you cant get with stock. all offer performance above stock if the proper settings are used and the overclocks are not to extreme for the framework. they are all also still works in progress so I think they will improve with the developers attention as time goes by. i started with stock kernel and ran antutu, quadrant, velimo, 3d mark ice storm, 3d mark ice storm extreme, basemark x, gfxbench 2.7.0 t-rex hd onscreen, gfx 2.7 egypt hd onscreen
stock kernel
stock ran well and i liked it, but i hated having to long press wifi to toggle and short press takes you to settings, wtf google?
edit.... so at any rate my benches will probably be a little lower than yours on all these kernels as im running stuff to keep me informed in the background
whatever flo 002 kernel
the kernel ran smooth and i liked it. i have the same complaints about it as i do stock. wtf google?
so on this kernel as you can see it functioned better than stock on every single benchmark. some were close but just a little better is...well...better.
jassy release 5 kernel
this kernel is set up to use an external kernel control app. it will not function worth a hill of beans without it in my testing. and even further than that it seems to not like trickster mod for me as it bench's higher with faux kernel control app paid version. real world expierance is good. fauxclock is set to 1.89 ghz CPU OC. cpu ondemand governor. snake charmer and mpdecision on. intelithermal at 60 and 80 respectfully. gpu at 487. gpu simple governor. fiops i/o at 512 read ahead. as you can see in cpu and gpu performance it face smashes stock kernel then kicks it while its down and makes it cry for momma. i dont know what the dude pasted into this kernel but i like it. jassy worked hard so we could have a full featured kernel that works well. release 6 = win, release 5 o yeah baby performance even ondemand. i could still kick this to performance governor lol
elementalx 0.7 kernel
settings with no external kernel control app.
1988 cpu overclock on each core. 487 gpu overclock. simple gpu governor. stock bus. stock voltage. no stw, dtw. the kernel ran well in real world performance. STW and DTW are awsome features by the way and i really like this kernel but didnt install them for testing purposes, one less potential irritation. as you can see it actually lost a bit from stock performance though in every benchmark except basemarkx and gfxbench 2.7 t rex. that tells me there is a problem with cpu performance in this kernel. also look at the cpu vs gpu in antutu vs stock kernel. so what i like this kernel and with lower clocks, dude it rocks. stw and dtw are wins.
elementalx 0.7
settings with no external control app.
1890 cpu overclock on each core. 487 gpu overclock. ondemand governor. stock bus.stock voltage. no stw, no dtw. again the kernel ran well in real world performance but as you can see it took a serious hit in performance at this cpu clock setting. the gpu features continue to score high though
elementalx 0.7 kernel
settings with no external kernel control app.
1728 cpu overclock on each core. 487 gpu overclock. ondemand governor. stock bus. stock voltage. no stw, dtw.
as usual really nice running and here the voltage values are more sane i guess. bested stock in every bench. i figure 1.9 ish before the poo poo hits the fan and performance benches go south rather than north. that seems about the same for the other kernels ive tested too. flar2 really has a winning kernel here with stw and dtw. highly recommend giving it a try
3flo v4 kernel
not testing this one yet as my boy doesn't even have the nexus 7 2013 but I tell ya, I got a good feeling about him. seems dedicated and excited.
Edit...he just got a mpdecision kernel booting and posting good scores but has a cores on touch problem for me. Very beta but it shows that even without a device you can build. Still got a good feeling about this one.
faux123 flo jb 4.3 001 kernel ulta
not coming. I can boot it and even run at highest settings but antutu ehh and im tired lol. maybe ill do it if the overclock structures are changed in some way but ehh not interested in this high on this chip.
faux123 flo jb 4.3 001 ES
settings. faux 123 kernel control paid version. 1.512 ghzcpu. mpdecision off. cpu governor ondemand. snake charmer on. stock voltages. intelli thermal 60 and 80. gpu 400 and ondemand. fiops I/o 512 read ahead.
so here you can see again the same slight loss in gpu performance which lead to slightly lower scores than stock. cool kernel though and I do like intelli thermal so
faux123 flo jb 4.3 001 kernel mainline
settings in faux123 kernel control app paid version. 1.83 cpu OC. CPU Governor ondemand. intelliplug. mpdecision off. eco modeoff. snake charmer on. stock voltages. intelli thermal 60 and 80. gpu 400. gpu governor ondemand. fiops I/o 512 read ahead.
so I found the kernel smooth in real world. I looked for my sweet spot and found it around 1.836-1.89 cpu. above that didn't really work out well for me. so in this great kernel the cpu benchmarks higher than stock but for one reason or other the gpu seems to bench lower than stock. all in all a great kernel and omg I love the idea of eco mode and I think with proper cpu governor and eco this kernel would rock some battery butt.
Tiny kernel
Coming soon
gaming settings for snapdragon 615
i use Poison-Kernel v5.0 with AIM rom 7.1.2
thermal throttle tweak for better preformance : [Tweak][Performance Like crazy][Z00T/Z00L]Antutu 41k on mostly any ROM (use google)
Cpu gov: impulse (for both clusters) * if the game lags put big cores on preformance governor and little cores on impulse* (this way big cores will work on maximum speed ,and little cores will use only one core on 200mhz)
Cpu freq: Big cores min. 200 mhz/ max. 1651 mhz
Little cores min. 200 mhz/max .1113 mhz
Hotplugging : msm_hotplug
Gpu initial frequency: 220mhz
Gpu governor :msm-adreno-tz
I/O scheduler: cfq
tested psp games : Spider man 2(full speed) , Naruto Shippuden - Ultimate Ninja Heroes 3(full speed),Soulcalibur: Broken Destiny(30 fps),Godfather (mostly 30fps ,there are some dips but only for a second or two ),nfs most wanted (30 fps),little big planet(30fps),sid meier's pirates(max speed)
(i will put settings for ppsspp in a few days)
tested android games :
Free fire (30 fps)
PUBG (25-40 fps with PUBgfx+tool) ||there will be some dips in fps when loading new area||
* i will add screenshoot of settings soon*
FELL FREE TO UPDATE
Dzaky Spear said:
gaming settings for snapdragon 615
i use Poison-Kernel v5.0 with AIM rom 7.1.2
thermal throttle tweak for better preformance : [Tweak][Performance Like crazy][Z00T/Z00L]Antutu 41k on mostly any ROM (use google)
Cpu gov: impulse (for both clusters) * if the game lags put big cores on preformance governor and little cores on impulse* (this way big cores will work on maximum speed ,and little cores will use only one core on 200mhz)
Cpu freq: Big cores min. 200 mhz/ max. 1651 mhz
Little cores min. 200 mhz/max .1113 mhz
Hotplugging : msm_hotplug
Gpu initial frequency: 220mhz
Gpu governor :msm-adreno-tz
I/O scheduler: cfq
tested psp games : Spider man 2(full speed) , Naruto Shippuden - Ultimate Ninja Heroes 3(full speed),Soulcalibur: Broken Destiny(30 fps),Godfather (mostly 30fps ,there are some dips but only for a second or two ),nfs most wanted (30 fps),little big planet(30fps),sid meier's pirates(max speed)
(i will put settings for ppsspp in a few days)
tested android games : free fire (30 fps)
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Hey... You've mentioned max clock speed for big cluster as 1651Mhz how's that possible... Is it a 1.7 GHz version ? I got z00ud 1.5ghz ... Or is it a feature from poison kernel... Just a clarity before I go for a dive
Levi21xD said:
Hey... You've mentioned max clock speed for big cluster as 1651Mhz how's that possible... Is it a 1.7 GHz version ? I got z00ud 1.5ghz ... Or is it a feature from poison kernel... Just a clarity before I go for a dive
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Hey ,snapdragon 615 can go up to 1.7 ghz but on stock kernel it runs on 1.5ghz
stock kernel (stock rom): big cluster is locked down to 1.5ghz and when trying to play anything it goes down to 1.1ghz or 800mhz
poison kernel (any custom rom):big cluster goes to 1.7ghz (1651mhz) when playing it thermal throttles to 1.4or 1.3ghz
fire kernel (any custom rom): same as poison
||with thermal throttle tweak||
stock kernel (stock rom): not tested
poison kernel (any custom rom) : while playing games big cluster stayes at 1651mhz and Little cluster shuts down (or uses one core on 200 mhz) *using impulse/impulse for cpu governor*
fire kernel (any custom rom): not tested
Dzaky Spear said:
Hey ,snapdragon 615 can go up to 1.7 ghz but on stock kernel it runs on 1.5ghz
stock kernel (stock rom): big cluster is locked down to 1.5ghz and when trying to play anything it goes down to 1.1ghz or 800mhz
poison kernel (any custom rom):big cluster goes to 1.7ghz (1651mhz) when playing it thermal throttles to 1.4or 1.3ghz
fire kernel (any custom rom): same as poison
||with thermal throttle tweak||
stock kernel (stock rom): not tested
poison kernel (any custom rom) : while playing games big cluster stayes at 1651mhz and Little cluster shuts down (or uses one core on 200 mhz) *using impulse/impulse for cpu governor*
fire kernel (any custom rom): not tested
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I never tried poison kernel but ... I used firekernel and it has only up to 1.5ghz I'm surprised poison let's you go an extra mile...that is not specified in the features list..... Well... I'll try it out and let you know here.... But I doubt why op would not reveal overclock ... So probably our device SoC is different... I've seen z00t with 1.7 but it's model number is different .. maybe ze661 or something.. mine is zd551kl
Levi21xD said:
I never tried poison kernel but ... I used firekernel and it has only up to 1.5ghz I'm surprised poison let's you go an extra mile...that is not specified in the features list..... Well... I'll try it out and let you know here.... But I doubt why op would not reveal overclock ... So probably our device SoC is different... I've seen z00t with 1.7 but it's model number is different .. maybe ze661 or something.. mine is zd551kl
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My device is ze600kl (z00md)
i have tried fire karnel and i did get 1651 mhz i flashed this edition ||FireKernel-r2.4f - (modified by op for 615)|| *it is very good for psp emulator*
if you read fire or poison threads you can find people that experienced overclock ........mostly 600kl models
Dzaky Spear said:
My device is ze600kl (z00md)
i have tried fire karnel and i did get 1651 mhz i flashed this edition ||FireKernel-r2.4f - (modified by op for 615)|| *it is very good for psp emulator*
if you read fire or poison threads you can find people that experienced overclock ........mostly 600kl models
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Yeah... Now I understood.... It is SoC difference... Big oof...
Hello.
Do those kernels works on other Snapdragon 615 phones?
I have a Vodafone Smart Ultra 6, with TWRP 3.2.3-0 and Lineage 14.1 (no more updates from that version til now), and it throttles a.f. even @ room temps (like 20~24 °C) while the CPU seems to go up to 67~72 °C while working @ 100%, throttling to 800 MHz, and not keeping the 1467 MHz full speed on the big cores.
Maybe this phone doesn't have a great heat dissipation design (the SOC seems interfaced with a thermal pad to a thin shielding, then to the internal frame with a weird interfacing, at the center an adhesive part and on the sides a weird texture. Also the internal frame seems in plastic, covered with some aluminium powder or something alike.
Anyway thanks for every answer or suggestion.
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