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[Q] International Note 3 on T-Mobile

Hello there!
I reside in the UAE and recently bought a Note 3 4G LTE SM-9005 (Snapdragon Variant).
I will be moving to Chicago, USA and wanted to know if I will be able to use the 4G. I see that T-Mobile supports 2100MHz, 1900MHz, 1700MHz and 850MHz. The international Note 3, the one which I have supports 800MHz, 850MHz, 900MHz, 1800MHz, 2100MHz and 2600MHz. Seeing that I support one band, will 4G work on T-Mobile? Also, will 3G work? And if so, will the dual 3G work where I get 2 streams of 21MBPS?
If not on T-Mobile, will any other carriers work?
Thanks in advanced, Zain.
PS. I have read other forms but seem to get two answers, some say it will work and some say it won't. Just wanted some clarification.

zainmobhani said:
Hello there!
I reside in the UAE and recently bought a Note 3 4G LTE SM-9005 (Snapdragon Variant).
I will be moving to Chicago, USA and wanted to know if I will be able to use the 4G. I see that T-Mobile supports 2100MHz, 1900MHz, 1700MHz and 850MHz. The international Note 3, the one which I have supports 800MHz, 850MHz, 900MHz, 1800MHz, 2100MHz and 2600MHz. Seeing that I support one band, will 4G work on T-Mobile? Also, will 3G work? And if so, will the dual 3G work where I get 2 streams of 21MBPS?
If not on T-Mobile, will any other carriers work?
Thanks in advanced, Zain.
PS. I have read other forms but seem to get two answers, some say it will work and some say it won't. Just wanted some clarification.
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I use my SM-N900W8 in Hong Kong and it is nearly, if not exactly alike as the SM-N900T. I can say that even in HK I get 4 - 5 bars of LTE, and worst case scenario I get 3 bars of 3G/H+
I also used an N9105 - Note II LTE, with the exact same bands as the SM-N9005 (the one you have), but the problem was that I couldn't get enough bars as my N900W8 did. The phone got really hot when it searched for reception (as it was usually at 2-3 bars), whilst at the same spot, I would get 4-5 on my N900W8. So to answer your question, yes, they should work, except your reception would be lower than an American banded phone.

zainmobhani said:
Hello there!
I reside in the UAE and recently bought a Note 3 4G LTE SM-9005 (Snapdragon Variant).
I will be moving to Chicago, USA and wanted to know if I will be able to use the 4G. I see that T-Mobile supports 2100MHz, 1900MHz, 1700MHz and 850MHz. The international Note 3, the one which I have supports 800MHz, 850MHz, 900MHz, 1800MHz, 2100MHz and 2600MHz. Seeing that I support one band, will 4G work on T-Mobile? Also, will 3G work? And if so, will the dual 3G work where I get 2 streams of 21MBPS?
If not on T-Mobile, will any other carriers work?
Thanks in advanced, Zain.
PS. I have read other forms but seem to get two answers, some say it will work and some say it won't. Just wanted some clarification.
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Snapdragon is not the International version, your title is confusing. International version is Exynos and has no US LTE.

Neo3D said:
Snapdragon is not the International version, your title is confusing. International version is Exynos and has no US LTE.
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Actually, international is N9005, Snapdragon.
The Exynos edition is only being sold in select areas. Most people here use Snapdragon as it is easier to get, but most N900s are found in India. Hong Kong would only sell international phones, unlocked, and they are all N9005.
Regardless. If you have the 9005, you have the Snapdragon, and it should come with LTE, but may not contain the right bands for the US as Neo said above.

zainmobhani said:
Hello there!
I reside in the UAE and recently bought a Note 3 4G LTE SM-9005 (Snapdragon Variant).
I will be moving to Chicago, USA and wanted to know if I will be able to use the 4G. I see that T-Mobile supports 2100MHz, 1900MHz, 1700MHz and 850MHz. The international Note 3, the one which I have supports 800MHz, 850MHz, 900MHz, 1800MHz, 2100MHz and 2600MHz.
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Region doesn't matter in fact I got my device from France, but had Hong Kong firmware on it. Later to get KitKat I flashed Poland firmware.
as for the bands T mobile mainly uses 1700MHz so you won't get LTE doesn't matter if you change the APN, I tried. You will get HSPA+ which isn't horrible, its enough to watch HQ YouTube videos.
idk about ATT though when I looked it up I remembered it being able to, but now that I look at doesn't look like it can...

Unlock the LTE lock adout N9005 in CHINA?

I buy a Europe N9005 via Gray way, but I cann,t use LTE of CHINA UNICOM LTE inCHINA WUHAN
anybody could help me ?
i only know xda is a brilliant rorum:highfive: i hope i can solve my problem

So, did you check the provider's LTE frequency band against the ones the N9005 supports?
Because there's a 99.99% chance the two don't match. Which XDA can't fix. (We wish!)
Sent from my SM-N9005 using Tapatalk 2

ShadowLea said:
So, did you check the provider's LTE frequency band against the ones the N9005 supports?
Because there's a 99.99% chance the two don't match. Which XDA can't fix. (We wish!)
Sent from my SM-N9005 using Tapatalk 2
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:crying::crying:
MY Europe 9005 (32G) said it support LTEB1 B3 B5 B7 B8 B20 ALL
LTE of China Unicom is Band 1 /Band3 ,I think it should be supported. AND the 9005 of Hong kong, it could use in CHINA UNICOM'S LTE,
the 9005(TGY,16G) should be same with 9005(EUR,32G) in hardware
And many of Europe N9005 the IMEI will change if you flash new rom with odin ,IMEI will become 35750705000888 ,many people suffer that.
So i guess Samsung Lock the LTE because of religion place restrictions ,i guess

CHINA UNICOM said its TD-LTE is false, because goverment force them to use TDD-LTE , a lot of cities use FDD -LTE in fact .
CHINA UNICOM use TD-LTE band 41, FDD-LTE band 1 ,band 3 even band 7

So, what's the current situation in China ? I am at the same position; unlocked international version of Samsung Galaxy Note 3 (SM-N9005) and want to use it in China. Mysteriously, 4G seemed to work (??) with a China Mobile sim card when I tried in a mobile shop but sadly I didn't have the time or access to make sure and do comprehensive tests. I thought TDD-LTE was not supposed to be compatible. Could China Mobile have FDD-LTE in my region (Henan) ?

[Q] no 4G in China

My Samsung Note 4 N910C had great performance under all 5 operators when I was in Hong Kong, with unbelievable 4G speeds...
Now I am in China, using a 4G enabled SIM card from China Unicom and the icon on the top bar only shows H+.
By contrast my iPhone 6 and my LG G3 show 4G, both of them. Under the same conditions, same network (China Unicom) and same 4G SIM card
I asked China Unicom: they run a 4G FD LTE network, in 1800MHz band. So what could be the culprit? Are we sure that Samsung SM-N910C covers the FD LTE 1800MHz band?
(LG G3 and iPhone 6 plus do for sure since I get the 4G icon on top bar)
Thank you and waiting.
Saulo

OTA routine updates + Phone call recording
I have other 2 questions
I wish to root my device: (using chaifire Auto-CF method).
1. OTA routine updates
What will happen when I make an official OTA monthly upgrade, from Samsung? Will I get the device bricked? Will I lose rooting?
2. Phone call recording.
For many reasons I wish to avoid to flash a custom rom. How then can I get the capability of "phone call recording" during a phone call? I have this feature with my NON rooted MIUI M3 device...running android 4.4.2. Are out there any apk to install or special mods?
I am not asking about privacy concerns or the legality of phone recording, I just wish to know if that function is feasible without flashing a custom ROM.
Thank you
Saulo

saulo866 said:
My Samsung Note 4 N910C had great performance under all 5 operators when I was in Hong Kong, with unbelievable 4G speeds...
Now I am in China, using a 4G enabled SIM card from China Unicom and the icon on the top bar only shows H+.
By contrast my iPhone 6 and my LG G3 show 4G, both of them. Under the same conditions, same network (China Unicom) and same 4G SIM card
I asked China Unicom: they run a 4G FD LTE network, in 1800MHz band. So what could be the culprit? Are we sure that Samsung SM-N910C covers the FD LTE 1800MHz band?
(LG G3 and iPhone 6 plus do for sure since I get the 4G icon on top bar)
Thank you and waiting.
Saulo
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As far as I know china mobile runs FDD band 3 (1800) and band 7 (2600) ONLY in Hong Kong. All other parts of China using TDD. As far as 910C I can assure you it has band 3 (1800) because vodafon qatar uses that band.
Sent from my SM-N910C using Tapatalk

iznee said:
As far as I know china mobile runs FDD band 3 (1800) and band 7 (2600) ONLY in Hong Kong. All other parts of China using TDD. As far as 910C I can assure you it has band 3 (1800) because vodafon qatar uses that band.
Sent from my SM-N910C using Tapatalk
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Thank you.
I am using China Unicom, not China Mobile, but, yes, both carriers are currently sharing the TDD LTE network
So we have to admit that LG G3 has both FDD LTE and TDD LTE? Otherwise why my LG G3 shows a 4GB icon on top bar? Of course I am using the same 4G enabled China Unicom SIM card

The 910G should work in china as it supports TDD bands
Sent from my SM-N910C using Tapatalk

saulo866 said:
Thank you.
I am using China Unicom, not China Mobile, but, yes, both carriers are currently sharing the TDD LTE network
So we have to admit that LG G3 has both FDD LTE and TDD LTE? Otherwise why my LG G3 shows a 4GB icon on top bar? Of course I am using the same 4G enabled China Unicom SIM card
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Really strange as both your 910c and the Unicom 9106w both list B3 (1800) in their specs so it should work.
Any way to get into the settings and force LTE only? Do the APNs look OK?
Sent from my 1+1

Refer here for worldwide lte bands: https://www.google.com.sg/url?sa=t&...oQFjAA&usg=AFQjCNHweUb9bpKCXyW6n_-ox1GDSm3eLQ
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Dear Kinghu
How to force LTE? In settings I only see
WCDMA only
WCDMA/GSM
GSM only
2.
In Hong Kong I saw 4G icon. But at that time I did NOT check in settings, Anyway the speed was so good! I downloaded an entire movie is less than 6 mins. Incredibly fast. Here I am back to average speeds.

saulo866 said:
My Samsung Note 4 N910C had great performance under all 5 operators when I was in Hong Kong, with unbelievable 4G speeds...
Now I am in China, using a 4G enabled SIM card from China Unicom and the icon on the top bar only shows H+.
By contrast my iPhone 6 and my LG G3 show 4G, both of them. Under the same conditions, same network (China Unicom) and same 4G SIM card
I asked China Unicom: they run a 4G FD LTE network, in 1800MHz band. So what could be the culprit? Are we sure that Samsung SM-N910C covers the FD LTE 1800MHz band?
(LG G3 and iPhone 6 plus do for sure since I get the 4G icon on top bar)
Thank you and waiting.
Saulo
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I just bought a 4G china unicom sim card and receive H+ as the symbol.
I called Unicom and asked them why and the guy told me that iphone symbols show 4G but android and some other devices may show H+ but it's still 4G speeds..
Is that even possible? My HTC One can use 4G but it's showing H+, I didn't think H+ could be shown if it actually uses FDD-LTE..

Are there different versions of Nexus 6P for Europe and US ?

I was planing to ask my friend to get me a Nexus 6p from US and bring it over to Europe and I was wondering if there are different versions of Nexus 6P for US and Europe (with different sets of LTE bands ) ? Will I have a problem of using it with European GSM bands (specifically the LTE/4G) ?
Thanks

Haik0 said:
I was planing to ask my friend to get me a Nexus 6p from US and bring it over to Europe and I was wondering if there are different versions of Nexus 6P for US and Europe (with different sets of LTE bands ) ? Will I have a problem of using it with European GSM bands (specifically the LTE/4G) ?
Thanks
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LTE/4G will be a problem

Agreed, the US version has less bands than the international version. It does not have band 8, which is what most of the UK's 4g network runs on. There are a few exceptions, but most of them work of band 8.

Haik0 said:
I was planing to ask my friend to get me a Nexus 6p from US and bring it over to Europe and I was wondering if there are different versions of Nexus 6P for US and Europe (with different sets of LTE bands ) ? Will I have a problem of using it with European GSM bands (specifically the LTE/4G) ?
Thanks
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Danish2980 said:
LTE/4G will be a problem
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Stephen said:
Agreed, the US version has less bands than the international version. It does not have band 8, which is what most of the UK's 4g network runs on. There are a few exceptions, but most of them work of band 8.
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This, it's also missing band 20, which is used for 4G networks in the Netherlands and most of mainland Europe as far as I know. Basically a US Nexus 6P won't work on 4G/LTE in Europe.

Nomoi said:
This, it's also missing band 20, which is used for 4G networks in the Netherlands and most of mainland Europe as far as I know. Basically a US Nexus 6P won't work on 4G/LTE in Europe.
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Ahh, ok then :/ That was my shot to get this phone cheaper, it's ridiculous how expensive it is here compared to US .
Thanks for the response.

I know that here in Ireland Vodafone (my carrier) use both band 20 and band 3, with band 3 usage being more recent. I am doing my research at the moment but am hoping that if I get a US Nexus 6P I will be able to use it here with Vodafone LTE on band 3.
Crossing fingers,
M

Where can I find more info on these various nexus 6p variants?
Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk

Stephen said:
Agreed, the US version has less bands than the international version. It does not have band 8, which is what most of the UK's 4g network runs on. There are a few exceptions, but most of them work of band 8.
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US Version and International have the same amount of bands just different ones. No one in Europe runs on band 8. UK runs mostly on 3/7/20. So most likely you will get LTE coverage from your carrier unless you're with O2 or Vodaphone since they only support band 20.
US: 2/3/4/5/7/12/13/17/25/26/29/30
International: 1/2/3/4/5/7/8/9/17/19/20/28
Use an app like LTE Discovery to see what band you're using in your most frequented places.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.simplyadvanced.ltediscovery

Redmi 3s with lte?

So there is a version of the Redmi 3s and 3s prime that is sold in Mexico that supports 4g lte (called only 4g in here)...
I was wondering, does it have different hardware? Or were the antennas for mexican 4g already there and activated via software?
I'm really confused on the subject and can't find any info as to why some xiaomi phones work with mexican 4g(Which uses some bands that are also used in the us).
I'm considering buying this or the 4 prime and was wondering if there could be a way to activate global lte on the 4 primer later on.
I was also wondering if I NEED to buy the phone in here to be able to use the 4g or if I might be able to pick up a phone from aliexpress and have 4g too.
Hope someone can help me with this info

The hardware is different but you can also get the LTE (4G) version for Mexico on Ali Express.
In Mexico you use LTE band 2 (Movistar: 1900 MHz) and 4 (AT&T,TelCel: 1700 MHz). So when you want to buy a Redmi 3S on Ali, make sure you buy the Xiaomi Redmi 3S Special Edition. It supports the LTE bands needed in your country.

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Thanks! =)
I was reading on sites that list the specs of the device but couldn't find anywhere that said that it supported lte bands 2 and 4 so I was quite confused. Thanks a lot.