and i wanted to ask a quick question, i am intending in the future to root it and maybe install GPE roms in it, should i just leave it at 4.3 and avoid 4.4.2? i read that downgrading and installing recovery is hard .
Invicta said:
and i wanted to ask a quick question, i am intending in the future to root it and maybe install GPE roms in it, should i just leave it at 4.3 and avoid 4.4.2? i read that downgrading and installing recovery is hard .
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Hi mate
Some roms need the newer bootloader to work witout problems , if the bootloader is not a problem stay in what you have , is always better
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does it worth to update my I9500 to 4.3 (UAE) Version ??
cause i have alot of issues with my 4.2.2 in wifi and lagging ! so if u have 4.3 tell me ur opinion please
iam also planning to install it via odin but i need to be rooted cause off folder mount !
is there is any way to update it without losing the root access and that knox thing
DaRkEMpRoR said:
iam also planning to install it via odin but i need to be rooted cause off folder mount !
is there is any way to update it without losing the root access and that knox thing
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You can flash Custom roms like Omega v13.1, i get to use 4.3 rooted without KNOX.
Just flash a custom recovery and install from there. Do read instructions carefully when installing.
Guys, unless you want a knox enabled bootloader on your phone. Stay away from the official 4.3 rom. If you have no idea what Knox is, then you should read the thread about it.
You can also install PAC MAN Rom, CM, Paranoid Android etc. Knox Free
hey guys this is my first post and i looked forum and didn't see any information about downgrading on 4.4 to 4.3 . i saw some guys saying its not possible but i assume they mean official downgrade. the thing is i got n9005 with 4.4.2 installed and iam not happy with it so i want to downgrade it to unofficial 4.3 roms. as i understand boot loader changed with 4.4.2 and doesn't allow to go back but what if we can install new bootlader and official ROM. is that not possible too?
2nd q is 0x1 means void warranty what about 0x3 (they say tripped) is this something real or i misunderstand this?
3th q is can i even if i downgraded custom 4.3 and want to go back to stock rom is it possible?
i don't want posts saying its already inside of forum. i just want straight answers.
tranz46 said:
hey guys this is my first post and i looked forum and didn't see any information about downgrading on 4.4 to 4.3 . i saw some guys saying its not possible but i assume they mean official downgrade. the thing is i got n9005 with 4.4.2 installed and iam not happy with it so i want to downgrade it to unofficial 4.3 roms. as i understand boot loader changed with 4.4.2 and doesn't allow to go back but what if we can install new bootlader and official ROM. is that not possible too?
2nd q is 0x1 means void warranty what about 0x3 (they say tripped) is this something real or i misunderstand this?
3th q is can i even if i downgraded custom 4.3 and want to go back to stock rom is it possible?
i don't want posts saying its already inside of forum. i just want straight answers.
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1. No.
2. Misunderstood, you only trip Knox once.
3. You can always flash stock rom back but sometimes need pit file for carrier roms as hidden partition sems bigger...
Straight enough?...
anything new about downgrading from 4.4 to 4.3?
No. Still can't be done.
Hello
I recently got my S4 i9505. I'm planning to root it
I have Android version 4.3
I used to flash costum roms on my s2 but I'm not really planning to do much flashing on my S4. not soon anyway
So as I connected the phone to Kies to make sure the drivers were downloaded so I can proceed with rooting
Firmware update popped up
I'm not sure what the best option for me now.
Should I root now and then I'd be able to flash a costume KK rom? and are there any stable ones that are better than the stock?
Can I use kies to update my rooted phone?
Maybe I should stick with JB 4.3? Which one is better 4.3 or 4.4.2?
I remember facing some issues when I update my s2 back. So I searched for the KK Update for the s4 and some people weren't so happy with their KK update
I know that doesn't represent the majority but still it could happen to me
So I confused myself
What is your advice to me?
sorry for the long post
Also I have an extra question What is KNOX? and do I need it?
egy_b0y said:
Hello
I recently got my S4 i9505. I'm planning to root it
I have Android version 4.3
I used to flash costum roms on my s2 but I'm not really planning to do much flashing on my S4. not soon anyway
So as I connected the phone to Kies to make sure the drivers were downloaded so I can proceed with rooting
Firmware update popped up
I'm not sure what the best option for me now.
Should I root now and then I'd be able to flash a costume KK rom? and are there any stable ones that are better than the stock?
Can I use kies to update my rooted phone?
Maybe I should stick with JB 4.3? Which one is better 4.3 or 4.4.2?
I remember facing some issues when I update my s2 back. So I searched for the KK Update for the s4 and some people weren't so happy with their KK update
I know that doesn't represent the majority but still it could happen to me
So I confused myself
What is your advice to me?
sorry for the long post
Also I have an extra question What is KNOX? and do I need it?
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First, the most problems in 4.4.2 are fixed, so if you flash the officical, latest firmware of your country you shouldn't have any problem.
An important thing: if you flash a custom rom, your warranty will be set 0x1, that means, you lost your garanty if you flash a custom rom, that's the so called KNOX. You can use knox like a second system on your phone, with all secure data in it, you can only access with a passwort and all datas are locked without this passwort.
Root your phone after the software update if you want to root it.
Tkkg1994 said:
First, the most problems in 4.4.2 are fixed, so if you flash the officical, latest firmware of your country you shouldn't have any problem.
An important thing: if you flash a custom rom, your warranty will be set 0x1, that means, you lost your garanty if you flash a custom rom, that's the so called KNOX. You can use knox like a second system on your phone, with all secure data in it, you can only access with a passwort and all datas are locked without this passwort.
Root your phone after the software update if you want to root it.
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the fact is that 4.4.2 GNG8 international version cannot be rooted....
christty31 said:
the fact is that 4.4.2 GNG8 international version cannot be rooted....
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That's wrong, just not with towelroot.
thank you for your input
I'm currently on 4.3 with the original bootloader. Is it possible to update to an official touchwiz 4.4 or 5.0 rom and keep the old bootloader?
If no, are there any touchwiz roms modified to work with the old bootloader?
Does CM12 work well with the 4.3 bootloader?
Edit: I have the n9005 (n900x LDU to be exact) version of the Note 3.
You need to post in Q&A section mate but to answer your question no. Bootloaders are compatible with past versions of Android but not future versions. For example: 4.4 Bootloader is compatible witn Android 4.3 but not Android 5.0. Android 5.0 Bootloader is compatible with 4.4 + 4.3 but not Android 6.0 (if it even exists, but as i said, for example) hope this makes sense
P.S welcome to XDA
Are you sure about the backward compatibility? I read in multiple places that people couldn't downgrade to 4.3 because the new bootloader doesn't work with 4.3.
The 5.0 bootloader works fine with 4.3. I've seen and done it myself (I'm a flashaholic).
Do you have the n9005, n900 or some other version of the phone?
I have the N9005 mate.
So these threads are a bunch of baloney?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-3/help/bootloader-free-n9005-downgrade-4-4-2-t2817775
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2613745
Yes....i will post screenshots of me on 4.3 if you like?
I believe you, I'm just surprised as there are lots of threads that claim otherwise. Can you post exact steps of how you upgrade and downgrade? Maybe there's something special about the way you do it as others have obviously had problems with downgrading.
Also, can you respond to my other two questions (CM12 and touchwiz based roms that work with the old bootloader)?
Ideally I'd like not to upgrade my bootloader as this n900x (demo unit) that I have reportedly has major issues on new bootloaders (most probably because no new versions of the modem exist).
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I believe you, I'm just surprised as there are lots of threads that claim otherwise. Can you post exact steps of how you upgrade and downgrade? Maybe there's something special about the way you do it as others have obviously had problems with downgrading.
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There is no special way of downgrading or upgrading, its just the normal way.
PS: One thing I should have mentioned, if you wipe before upgrading and all that (that's what I do) and wipe via TWRP and then reboot the phone after wiping via TWRP then the bootloader won't upgrade, at least that's what I think, cause that's what happened to me while I was upgrading from KK to LP, the bootloader wasn't updated because I rebooted the phone from TWRP. So to avoid that you need to turn off the phone (if you are in recovery) and then enter download mode by Vol Down and Power, once again, rebooting to download mode from recovery won't upgrade the bootloader, you need to manually do that by powering off the phone and so on.
Trough Odin, not through a custom recovery? What about my other two questions (CM12 and touchwiz based roms that work with the old bootloader).
No idea about CM12, not in that sort of stuffs.
You will flash the ROM via Odin yes, but my previous comment is only valid if you wipe your phone via recovery before upgrading. I always wipe my phone before upgrading (and this was a big platform upgrade from KK to LP), thus thought about mentioning that.
How can you tell which bootloader you have? I wiped everything via TWRP and then used odin to flash a 5.0 rom.
Not sure what bootloader I have though..
That's the thing, I don't know that either! I guess when you enter bootloader there might be a mention of it, or not, not sure really.
I wouldn't have understood that anyway if I didn't have the WiFi password reset problem with LP. A user then pointed out that my bootloader wasn't updated and thus the WiFi problem was happening, and he was right.
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Trough Odin, not through a custom recovery? What about my other two questions (CM12 and touchwiz based roms that work with the old bootloader).
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Cm12 works with any bootloader
I know it does. How well it works on the 4.3 bootloader was the question.
Hey Guys,
today i got a Galaxy s4 black edition and there is a ROM called: Phoenix Rom. So i want to flash back to Stock ROM but im really not sure which one i want to flash on it because i dont want to brick my phone or something. Can i flash this http://www.handy-faq.de/forum/galaxy-s4-i9505xxugng8-kk-4-4-odin-kies-dbt-1t-23-07-2014-t306745/ without any problems?
Phone: GT-I9505
Basisbandversion: I9505XXUGNG8
Buildnumber: KOT49H.I9505XXUGNF1
That ROM will work without a problem. However, that may not have the added wallpapers and sounds the black edition devices have. Is there a reason you're not wanting Android 5.0.1 on your device?
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That ROM will work without a problem. However, that may not have the added wallpapers and sounds the black edition devices have. Is there a reason you're not wanting Android 5.0.1 on your device?
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Thanks for your Answer, i flashed that rom and it works perfectly. There is also an OTA update for Lollipop but im not sure to do that because i heard that lollipop has a lot of bugs like battery draining and so on. Im afraid if i upgrade it to lollipop i cannot downgrade it to KK. But do u think i should update?
I'm inclined to believe Samsung patched the battery drain bug, but you'd have to try it and find out. If you end up not liking it, going back down to the earlier version shouldn't be an issue, especially as you already have a Knox-enabled bootloader on your S4. There are tutorials on the forums here that I believe walk you through the process. Take a look at them before doing the OTA update.
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
I'm inclined to believe Samsung patched the battery drain bug, but you'd have to try it and find out. If you end up not liking it, going back down to the earlier version shouldn't be an issue, especially as you already have a Knox-enabled bootloader on your S4. There are tutorials on the forums here that I believe walk you through the process. Take a look at them before doing the OTA update.
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Is it really that my knox bootloader is enabled or not if i do the OTA update? And how can i see that it is enabled or not? Anyway can i root my phone if im on lollipop with CF auto root trough odin ?
You installed Android 4.4.2. 100% positive you have Knox, as all Samsung firmware from 4.3 on has it. Installing the OTA update will restore the Knox apps. Fortunately, CF-AutoRoot still works so you'll have no issues rooting if you install the update.
Ok thank you for your helpful advises, i will flash a kernel on my s4 to stop this overheating issue.