Why is WMWiFiRouter always on and everybody can always connect even when I'm not running the software? It seems like the only way to stop it is to turn off the WiFi on my phone. Is there a way I can get it to run only when I want too? Is there a limitation on how many people can connect to it? Thanks for your help and time!
Apota said:
Why is WMWiFiRouter always on and everybody can always connect even when I'm not running the software? It seems like the only way to stop it is to turn off the WiFi on my phone. Is there a way I can get it to run only when I want too? Is there a limitation on how many people can connect to it?
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From what I've seen, WMWifiRouter uses a peer-to-peer wireless network that it uses to essentially "forward" packets to the cellular network. The thing is, shutting down WMWifiRouter doesn't shut down the peer-to-peer wireless network, so it still broadcasts that the network exists. It won't actually do anything with that network (i.e. there's no cellular network access via it), but it maintains it. So, you can either shutdown wifi, as you've noticed, or you can have your phone connect to a different wifi network. Either works.
As for the last question, I don't know if there's much of a limitation, but I would imagine that it's probably dependent upon the limitations of your hardware or Windows Mobile. Theoretically, depending upon the subnet, it probably supports up to 253 users (x.x.x.2 - x.x.x.254), but it would probably choke and die from performance reasons before that.
Well, this brings up some other issues then. I thought that it would only broadcast a few feet because I assumed the power my cell phone puts out is very weak. This isn't the case. I tested it by walking down the street and I could stilll connect up to 6 houses down the street. That means that anybody within 200-300 feet can connect to the internet through my cell phone since it's unsecured. This worries me, especually since unlimited people can connect to it. If I'm in a public place or a hotel, etc. where I could be using it, so can tons of other people. This can be a real big problem. Is there a solution to this?
Another thing is that even though you aren't running the WMWiFiRouter software and if you have your WiFi turned on people can still connect to your phone. Thanks!
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From what I've seen, WMWifiRouter uses a peer-to-peer wireless network that it uses to essentially "forward" packets to the cellular network. The thing is, shutting down WMWifiRouter doesn't shut down the peer-to-peer wireless network, so it still broadcasts that the network exists. It won't actually do anything with that network (i.e. there's no cellular network access via it), but it maintains it. So, you can either shutdown wifi, as you've noticed, or you can have your phone connect to a different wifi network. Either works.
As for the last question, I don't know if there's much of a limitation, but I would imagine that it's probably dependent upon the limitations of your hardware or Windows Mobile. Theoretically, depending upon the subnet, it probably supports up to 253 users (x.x.x.2 - x.x.x.254), but it would probably choke and die from performance reasons before that.
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I have version .85, is there a later version and if so how do I get it? Is there a way to setup security on it or via the NIC driver? Thanks.
I gotta know if anyone else is having the same problems connecting to wifi as I am. Whenever I try to connect to my wireless network with any of my devices, it's sporadic. Sometimes it'll connect right away. Most of the time, it takes two or three minutes (!) and sometimes it'll puke on itself and say it doesn't see the network.
In the latter two cases, I can delete the profile for the network and power-cycle the device and it'll connect to the network almost immediately. As you might guess, this is an annoying process to go through.
It never really bothered me until my wife got an iPhone and it connected immediately to the network and does so EVERY TIME SHE USES IT!
Can anyone help me out? Why do these devices take so darn long to connect?
This is the second router I've used (first was a Linksys, currently I'm using a Trendnet), the Raphael (Fuze) and Tornado (SDA) are running their stock ROMs. The Wizard (MDA), I've gone a little flash-happy on, but I've encountered the same problem with all ROMs I've tried.
I'll admit I haven't checked what channels neighboring wifi networks are using (I'm pretty sure I'm the only one on my channel), but when I first got my Tornado and Wizard, mine was the only network (visible) and I was still having problems. And regardless, is the wifi radio in the iPhone that much better than my HTC devices?
(Just a side note, I have three wireless laptops that are all able to connect to the router without a hitch, adding to my belief that my network is on its own channel.)
Just wanted to update everyone that, last night, I checked the wireless networks I could see from my house and none share the same channel as mine, however I didn't take overlap into consideration. The lack of response to this thread would suggest to me I'm the only one encountering this type of problem, so I'll do some experimenting in an area with no other wireless activity and see if connecting is still slow.
O.K. I tested the Wizard and Raphael with a router in an area with no other wireless activity and discovered the following:
If the devices are set for DHCP, it takes a long time to connect. However, they did connect and remain connected without any problems.
If the devices have static IP addresses, they connect immediately and remain connected without any problems.
Conclusion:
The DHCP discovery on these devices takes too darn long to acquire addresses. That, and the slightest bit of EM noise can cause them to crap out. Since I don't have problems with other wireless devices (laptops, iPhone), I'm left with the assumption that either the radio is poor quality (unlikely) or the driver needs some serious fixing (most likely).
When and if the noble developers of this board get linux up and running on the Raphael, I'll be more than happy to test it out.
Since this thread was self-answering and would seem to be of little value, please feel free to delete it, moderators.
Hello all,
I have a nexus s 9020t with stock 2.3.4.
I have been in an office building that has 2 Wifi networks, one for each company.
With my PC I can see both networks, the one for the company I am visiting is a very strong signal and I can connect to it without a problem, the second company is a weak signal.
With my nexus s however, I can only see the weak Wifi, it won't even show the strong signal in the Wifi networks list (and one of the access points for it is right on top of me), I tried both with the stock Wifi setting and with Wifinder.
Other smartphones such as the iPhone have no problem in seeing both networks and connecting to the one with the strong signal.
Any idea why is that?
And do you think we will ever get a fix that boosts the phone's Wifi strengh? (or is there one?) kinda annoying having poor reception when people with iPhones etc... have a good recepotion to the same network.
I had some issues with wpa encryption and networks not showing up on my nexus. Changed the network to wep and the issue went away.
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This was an open network on which you need to login via the browser after you connect.
What ROM are you on. CM7 has many legacy wifi support built in. It would be that if you're on stock is missing proper support for certain channel/frequency (wifi is not all exactly 2.4mhz).
Also, CM7 you can set up to 14 channels that you can use.
When I'm at work and moving from one location to another, my S4 does not seem to automatically switch to the strongest wi-fi signal. It seems to "hold on" to whatever router it is connected to until it finally loses the signal completely. Only then will it re-connect to a stronger signal. I can manually work around this by turning the wifi off and on but this is a bit annoying... Does anyone else have this problem?
As an aside, I've not been able to disconnect during sleep by switching the sleep policy to "keep wifi on during sleep only when plugged in". Does this work for anyone?
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When I'm at work and moving from one location to another, my S4 does not seem to automatically switch to the strongest wi-fi signal. It seems to "hold on" to whatever router it is connected to until it finally loses the signal completely. Only then will it re-connect to a stronger signal. I can manually work around this by turning the wifi off and on but this is a bit annoying... Does anyone else have this problem?
As an aside, I've not been able to disconnect during sleep by switching the sleep policy to "keep wifi on during sleep only when plugged in". Does this work for anyone?
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As to your first point, that has been true of all my wifi devices (iPad, phones, laptops, etc.) I think that is by design because you might find your device constantly switching sources when competing wifi signals have similar strength or if the signals are varying in strength due to local conditions.
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As to your first point, that has been true of all my wifi devices (iPad, phones, laptops, etc.) I think that is by design because you might find your device constantly switching sources when competing wifi signals have similar strength or if the signals are varying in strength due to local conditions.
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Hmm, thanks. I never noticed this issue with my old S2 strangely. Perhaps it's because the S2 lost a weak wifi signal whilst the S4 has a slightly stronger lock and hangs onto it for longer. It's just very frustrating because so often my phone seems to be hanging on to such a weak signal I can't get any data through even though a strong wifi signal is available and a quick switch on/off of the wifi solves it. Anyway, I can live with it.
Anyone have any insight into my second question?
Hey guys,
My nexus 10 had a gray Wi-Fi bar and is failing to connect any of the Google services such as play store, search app, or gmail. Basically GAPPS. I cannot find a solution to this besides factory resetting, can someone help? My tablet is on stock rooted.
Thanks!
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My N10 either has a grey WiFi bar or it disconnects completely. This happens very often and occurs no matter what rom I have, even stock. I've always felt that the WiFi has always had issues but never got resolved. I've looked around for solutions but not found any. Much appreciated if someone explained or had a solution.
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I completely cannot use Google play, someone please help.
Toggle the Wifi off and then back on a few seconds later.
If this doesnt fix anything then you need to modify your router settings to be compatible.
Don't use 5g on router.
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5GHz networks work fine on this tablet.
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Don't use 5g on router.
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No offense meant, but that's a pretty silly claim. The transmission technology involved (2.4GHz/5GHz) or protocol (802.11a/b/g/n/ac) has no bearing on the color of the Wi-Fi indicator, which indicates just one thing: does a request to Google's secure servers work, or not? It's virtually always a problem with the network setup, be it with the ISP or the router blocking a port. OP should try using a public access point (coffee shop or something) or mobile hotspot to see if they're able to connect that way.
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5GHz networks work fine on this tablet.
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My apologies. There was a lot of discussion concerning the use of 5ghz when the tablet was released. My comment was more of a suggestion than an absolute, and probably wasn't written the best.
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No offense meant, but that's a pretty silly claim. The transmission technology involved (2.4GHz/5GHz) or protocol (802.11a/b/g/n/ac) has no bearing on the color of the Wi-Fi indicator, which indicates just one thing: does a request to Google's secure servers work, or not? It's virtually always a problem with the network setup, be it with the ISP or the router blocking a port. OP should try using a public access point (coffee shop or something) or mobile hotspot to see if they're able to connect that way.
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None taken. I was under the impression that grey/no bars, meant that there was no signal or there was a connection issue. I had no idea that the wifi state on the tablet had anything to do with Googles secure servers. I would like to learn more about that, if you would be so kind.
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None taken. I was under the impression that gray/no bars, meant that there was no signal or there was a connection issue. I had no idea that the wifi state on the tablet had anything to do with Googles secure servers. I would like to learn more about that, if you would be so kind.
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The Wi-Fi state doesn't depend on the connection to Google's servers-- that's why it's quite possible to get full graybars. You'll also notice that if your Wi-Fi goes to sleep, when you wake up a (stock) Android device, you should basically always see it gray first, then turn blue after a second or so (speed depends on how good your connection is).
It's also not as simple as just going to google.com, because you can (usually) do that regardless of the status reported. That's because going to google.com only relies on basic HTTP/HTTPS web traffic through ports 80 and 443, which on most functioning networks are never going to be blocked (mostly because it would make even basic web browsing more or less impossible without workarounds). All of your "real" transactions with Google (Gmail sync, location reporting, etc.) happen through secured connections that run on different ports.
Some networks will block those ports for security reasons (the more ports you have open, the greater the network's functionality-- and its vulnerability to outside attack). In those situations, you'll see a gray bar indicating that while you've got connectivity, you won't be able to establish the connection to Google needed for some services to run (most importantly, any GCM/C2DM-based push notifications).
And no problem. Unfortunately, many OEMs muck around with the iconography, making this distinction meaningless on a pretty wide range of devices. It's annoying because this is one of the more common reasons that Google services don't work.
Rirere said:
The Wi-Fi state doesn't depend on the connection to Google's servers-- that's why it's quite possible to get full graybars. You'll also notice that if your Wi-Fi goes to sleep, when you wake up a (stock) Android device, you should basically always see it gray first, then turn blue after a second or so (speed depends on how good your connection is).
It's also not as simple as just going to google.com, because you can (usually) do that regardless of the status reported. That's because going to google.com only relies on basic HTTP/HTTPS web traffic through ports 80 and 443, which on most functioning networks are never going to be blocked (mostly because it would make even basic web browsing more or less impossible without workarounds). All of your "real" transactions with Google (Gmail sync, location reporting, etc.) happen through secured connections that run on different ports.
Some networks will block those ports for security reasons (the more ports you have open, the greater the network's functionality-- and its vulnerability to outside attack). In those situations, you'll see a gray bar indicating that while you've got connectivity, you won't be able to establish the connection to Google needed for some services to run (most importantly, any GCM/C2DM-based push notifications).
And no problem. Unfortunately, many OEMs muck around with the iconography, making this distinction meaningless on a pretty wide range of devices. It's annoying because this is one of the more common reasons that Google services don't work.
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Would you happen to know if roms can affect wifi reception?
ikenvape said:
Would you happen to know if roms can affect wifi reception?
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ROMs and kernels shouldn't affect reception in a technical sense (unless the kernel developer really messes up or something), but they will affect what your device can do with the signal it has. There are also various modes your device can follow that offer compromises (i.e. for CDMA devices, EVRC-B vs. EVRC-C -- one is better for normal usage, the other holds clearer calls with low signal).
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ROMs and kernels shouldn't affect reception in a technical sense (unless the kernel developer really messes up or something), but they will affect what your device can do with the signal it has. There are also various modes your device can follow that offer compromises (i.e. for CDMA devices, EVRC-B vs. EVRC-C -- one is better for normal usage, the other holds clearer calls with low signal).
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Really appreciate the reply Rirere
I tried several lately. Since day one I have been receiving such poor reception. We have heavy wireless users here ranging from multiple game stations,phones tablets ,PC's etc. All have been receiving full strength except for the N10. From what your saying it seems like I have adjust the router for this one.
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Really appreciate the reply Rirere
I tried several lately. Since day one I have been receiving such poor reception. We have heavy wireless users here ranging from multiple game stations,phones tablets ,PC's etc. All have been receiving full strength except for the N10. From what your saying it seems like I have adjust the router for this one.
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Could you be a little more specific? Android has some nasty Wi-Fi issues (never have as many on my iOS devices), but the situation you describe doesn't sound like it helps. I'm the student manager at a college helpdesk, so we sometimes have this kind of problem in the dorms. If you give some more info about your setup, I might be able to at least point you in the right direction.
Things like what's the make and model of the router, where it's located, how close are neighbors, and so on. You can also use this app (https://play.google.com/store/apps/...SwxLDEsImNvbS5mYXJwcm9jLndpZmkuYW5hbHl6ZXIiXQ) to see if there's channel interference. If your router is new enough, you could also potentially kick it up to use 5GHz only (although that causes lower speeds the further you get much faster than auto 2.4GHz/5GHz).
Rirere said:
Could you be a little more specific? Android has some nasty Wi-Fi issues (never have as many on my iOS devices), but the situation you describe doesn't sound like it helps. I'm the student manager at a college helpdesk, so we sometimes have this kind of problem in the dorms. If you give some more info about your setup, I might be able to at least point you in the right direction.
Things like what's the make and model of the router, where it's located, how close are neighbors, and so on. You can also use this app (https://play.google.com/store/apps/...SwxLDEsImNvbS5mYXJwcm9jLndpZmkuYW5hbHl6ZXIiXQ) to see if there's channel interference. If your router is new enough, you could also potentially kick it up to use 5GHz only (although that causes lower speeds the further you get much faster than auto 2.4GHz/5GHz).
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Your too kind Reiere Thank you,
I'm using a Media Link MWN-WAPR150N. I see, it doesn't support 5ghz which seems to be a total bummer. I could have sworn that I purchased a dual band model. It's a wonderful device as I'm not having to constantly power cycle it like in the past. We do catch a neighboring facility's wifi here on our devices so I believe this can be causing interference and it would be best to switch up to a 5ghz router? Definitely will check out the app. Thanks allot. I apologize for the ignorance in this area.
ikenvape said:
Your too kind Reiere Thank you,
I'm using a Media Link MWN-WAPR150N. I see, it doesn't support 5ghz which seems to be a total bummer. I could have sworn that I purchased a dual band model. It's a wonderful device as I'm not having to constantly power cycle it like in the past. We do catch a neighboring facility's wifi here on our devices so I believe this can be causing interference and it would be best to switch up to a 5ghz router? Definitely will check out the app. Thanks allot. I apologize for the ignorance in this area.
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You're almost always going to get some degree of interference from other devices. How bad it is depends on the power of your neighbors' rig and its proximity. Other items, such as microwaves can cause temporary disruptions in wireless power, but it's much more unusual these days than it was in the past.
Given the way other devices in your network seem to be functioning alright, it might be a device-side issue. However, before that I would look into a Wi-Fi analyzing app like I posted earlier and try setting your network to a particular channel. If you pick one clear of your neighbors' wireless network, then if it's set to auto (which it probably is), it should adjust around yours and grant you a clear channel. (two networks on auto can occasionally snarl with one another, and the one with more power is going to win. Since yours is a single-band N home router, there's a good chance you'd lose with the routers out these days).