Hey I create this topic to discuss the new Android 5.0 Lollipop for our Moto G2 which was posted a changelog in motorola website to possible OTA update in the next days. Theres a quote of what is coming...
Moto G (2nd Generation) - Android™ 5.0 Lollipop - Release Notes
INTRODUCTION
We are excited to announce a new software update for Moto G (2nd Generation) by Motorola. This update brings Android™ 5.0 Lollipop to your phone along with other improvements.
For more information on Motorola updates and repairs, visit us at www.motorola.com/mymotog.
NOTE: You cannot downgrade to a previous software version after installing this update.
ENHANCEMENTS
Android™ 5.0 Lollipop is one of the most significant in recent Android history. It improves your experience in many areas including visual style and how you interact with your device.
After installing the software update you may notice changes that include:
Material Design
You will quickly notice a whole new colorful look and feel to your device - from fluid animations to new application and system themes, colors and widgets.
Notifications UI & Priorities
In order to alert you to the most timely and relevant information, the format and behavior of notifications have evolved:
notifications will appear on the lock screen and are intelligently ranked by type and who sent them.
you double-tap to open one, swipe left or right to clear one, or clear all notifications from the bottom of the list.
you can set the priority and privacy of notifications for each application.
very high priority notifications will pop up briefly over other applications so that you can take action.
when you dismiss a notification on one device it will be dismissed on your other Android devices, if they are connected to the Internet.
you can further tailor how notifications behave with the new Downtime and Ambient Display settings (see below).
New Interruptions & Downtime Settings You can tailor how interruptions behave, choosing to allow all, none, or only priority interruptions. You can personalize what counts as a priority interruption (reminders, events, calls, messages) and even tailor them to be from only contacts you specify. The Downtime setting will allow only priority interruptions during the times and days that you specify. e.g. allow only priority interruptions on the weekend.
Recent Apps (Multi-tasking)
The redesigned Overview space (formerly called Recents) will include both applications and separate activities within those applications. For instance, each open tab in Chrome will also appear here along with recent applications; both your Gmail Inbox and a draft email message will appear as separate cards. This provides a consistent way to switch amongst tasks.
Ambient Display
While your phone’s display is off, Ambient Display can show notifications without turning on the full display. This will be triggered when a notification arrives. You will see notifications similar to that shown on the lock screen. You can turn this feature on in the Display menu in Settings, and note that it will increase the power consumption of your device.
Motorola Assist and Downtime
Motorola Assist integrates the new Downtime settings to control when you don’t want to be disturbed. Motorola Assist also now uses the new Interruptions settings so that you can customize exceptions, such as letting only people on your starred contacts list get through.
Flashlight
Lollipop includes a new flashlight option as part of Quick settings (swipe down with two fingers from the status bar to see it).
Share your Device
You can now set up multiple user accounts on your phone. Guest mode is enabled by default. You can give calling and text privileges to other users of your device, or restrict them as you like in the Users menu under Settings.
Note that the personalized Motorola experiences (Motorola Assist, Motorola Connect) are for the owner account only.
The Motorola Camera, Motorola Gallery, and Motorola FM Radio applications support multiple user accounts.
Pin a view/app
Screen pinning allows you to keep a specific app or screen in view. For example, you can ‘pin’ a game and your child will not be able to navigate anywhere else on your phone.
Battery
The Battery settings panel now shows an estimated projection for how much time you have left while discharging or charging. You can also enable a new battery saver mode that will save power by reducing performance and most background data operations to extend your battery life.
Smarter Internet Connections
With Android Lollipop, your phone will not connect to a Wi-Fi access point unless there is a verified Internet connection. This feature improves hand-offs between Wi-Fi and cellular connections, helping to maintain your video chat or voice-over-IP (VoIP) call as you switch.
Performance
Your phone now uses the new Android Runtime to help optimize application performance. After upgrading to Lollipop, your applications will undergo a one-time optimization process. Note that the optimization for ART requires more space.
Smart Lock
(Trusted Devices) Android Lollipop adds native support for allowing trusted devices to keep your phone unlocked (such as your Moto 360, a Bluetooth car kit or headset, etc.). Smart Lock replaces the prior trusted device capability in your Motorola phone. Note that you will need to add your trusted devices back after the transition to Lollipop in the Security settings menu under Smart Lock.
Security
Encryption can now use a stronger 256-bit key to help protect your data. Note that the stronger key will only be used after you perform a factory reset on Android Lollipop. Otherwise encryption will continue to use 128-bit key. You can turn on encryption in the Security settings menu.
INSTRUCTIONS
For a successful installation, we recommend installing this update when the battery in your phone is at least 50% charged and you are connected to a Wi-Fi network.
If you have received a notification message for this update:
Select "Yes, I’m in".
After the software is downloaded, select "Install now".
After the software is installed, your phone will re-start automatically.
Your phone is now updated with <insert build number>
If you have not received a notification message for this update, follow the steps below to manually update your phone:
Select the Settings icon in the apps menu.
Select "About phone".
Select "System updates".
Select "Yes, I’m in". After the software is downloaded, select "Install now".
After the software is installed, your phone will re-start automatically.
Your phone is now updated to <insert build number>
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Source: https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/answers/prod_answer_detail/a_id/102639
Good thing is that you quoted it cause it's seems Motorola removed it from their site.
Can't wait now
So, if we want to root later, should we take the OTA or wait for a flashable ZIP?
Like, will Motorola be doing any Motorola-specific root-blocking or anything? On my old Samsung GS4, all the OTAs removed any new root exploits.
Or, because the bootloader is unlockable, we're OK?
I'm not sure but I don't think there's a root solution for Android L yet. That and no Xposed support. I'll hold out on the account of both of those things.
Well, Chainfire was able to root Lollipop on the Nexus 9 a few days ago: http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-9/orig-development/root-t2929118
Interestingly, Lollipop requires the kernel to be patched on every boot.
Hmm, I've never used Xposed, but it sounds great. But, I'm not optimistic on Xposed on ART coming anytime soon.
Maybe I'm headed back to custom ROMs or a la carte mods...
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So, I guess the answer to the initial question is: OK to perform the OTA update? No permanent modifications happen?
If we really miss Xposed or root in the coming weeks, we can just flash back to KitKat (I assume that when Motorola said you can't downgrade they didn't include users who unlocked their bootloader). Right?
Great post, but the fact that they removed it from their site doesn't make me comfortable... They must have some problem with it!
smitharro said:
Great post, but the fact that they removed it from their site doesn't make me comfortable... They must have some problem with it!
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Most likely it was accidentally put up too early, so they hid it again until the time is right.
Ambient display on ips panel??No ty
andrewk2x said:
Ambient display on ips panel??No ty
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may be mistake from them while writing for Moto G and X
after all the changelogs are not final you can see <insert built number> there
I'm really looking forward to LP on the MG2
Does anybody know if there will be a option to disable the lock when I'm conneted to a certain Wifi?
andrewk2x said:
Ambient display on ips panel??No ty
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Right? They do say in the changelog that it will increase battery consumption, though.
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Right? They do say in the changelog that it will increase battery consumption, though.
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I think it will be there but you can disable it in the display settings
not named said:
I'm really looking forward to LP on the MG2
Does anybody know if there will be a option to disable the lock when I'm conneted to a certain Wifi?
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Not via WiFi, two options will be if connected to A trusted Bluetooth device or you can have face unlock setup and trust me, this face unlock is very different from ICS and Jellybean. And these are applicable only on secured lockscreen.
Ambient Display is a part of Android 5.0 Lollipop and we can on/off it under display settings.
nirmalbalaji said:
Ambient Display is a part of Android 5.0 Lollipop and we can on/off it under display settings.
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Yup. On the Moto X 2014 Lollipop, there's an option to switch it with Moto Active Display.
Look's like that changelog was a slight mess up from moto's side.Our phone surely wont have ambient display
theserpent said:
Look's like that changelog was a slight mess up from moto's side.Our phone surely wont have ambient display
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Ambient display is a Lollipop feature and it will present in every Lollipop rom no matter which phone, unless the OEM or Rom developer removes it.
From the wording of the change log it sounds like Ambient Display is off by default anyway so you would have to turn it on manually.
Personally cannot wait for Lollipop I'm definitely going to factory reset after the update to make it as pure/smooth as possible
I thought we would get more news today about the soak test for the Moto G. MAkes me wonder how premature was the publication of those Release Notes
News! http://www.idigitaltimes.com/moto-g...load-and-install-new-build-ota-rollout-394272
Welcome to JimTDI's Guide - Tuning the Nexus 7 with Android 5 Lollipop for Maximum Performance!
What's Up
The goal of this guide is to provide you with a well performing base for your Nexus 7 on which you can then build upon, enabling all the features of Lollipop that you want and need, and leaving the ones that affect performance and are unnecessary or unneeded by you, off or disabled.
Don't worry... we're not going to harm or do anything to your Nexus 7 that can't be easily undone. None of my tuning tips "alter" or "root" your Nexus 7, or do anything that would void your warranty - but let's face it, if you have a Nexus 7, it's probably old enough that it doesn't have a warranty anyway. That being said, use common sense, and make your own choices - I am not responsible for any damage to your Nexus 7 because of my recommendations and tuning tips. Rest assured though, I have tested my recommended settings extensively on both the Nexus 7 2012 and Nexus 7 2013 Wi-Fi models. I'll be as gentle, and as non-technical as possible as we tune your Nexus 7. So, let's begin...
This guide has been recently updated to cover tuning the latest released versions of Android 5 Lollipop on both the Nexus 7 2012 and Nexus 7 2013 Wi-Fi and Mobile models. I'll refer to them as the Nexus 7(12) or Nexus 7(13) hereafter when we need specifics.
The Nexus 7(12) was available in 3 models, with either 8, 16 or 32GB of storage memory - and with 1 GB of memory to run applications. The Nexus 7(13) was available with either 16 or 32GB of storage, and 2GBs of memory to run applications. There were Wi-Fi and mobile editions available. It's always prudent for a Nexus 7 owner to know the specifics of the tablet they own, especially when asking for help or seeking out support, repair, software patches or looking for accessories like a case, or parts.
If you're not sure which model you have here's a tip, if there's a camera on the back side (facing away from you) it's a 2013 model, if it has just a front-facing camera only (no camera on the backside), then it's a 2012.
As you can see from the above specs, the Nexus 7(12) has very limited application memory with just 1GB on board, just one half of what the Nexus 7(13) has. It also has a bit slower processor than the Nexus 7(13) does (you can look those specs up later). Therefore the goal of this guide is to reduce anything that uses excessive memory, battery, and processing power while still providing a buttery smooth, fully functional user interface. After all, that's what the Lollipop & the Material Design experience is all about
What's New
As of this writing (I update this guide regularly!) these are the current Android 5 Lollipop versions for the various Nexus 7 models. For the best performance, -MAKE SURE- you have the latest Android 5 Lollipop version for your particular Nexus 7 device.
Nexus 7(12) Wi-Fi 5.0.2 (prior release 5.0, no 5.0.1 version for the Nexus 7(12) was ever released).
Nexus 7(12) Mobile 5.0.2
Nexus 7(13) Wi-Fi 5.0.2 (prior releases 5.0, and 5.0.1)
Nexus 7(13) Mobile 5.0.2
Some users have received updates from Android 4.x to Android 5 Lollipop "over-the-air" (known as OTA), and some users have either side-loaded or flashed factory images of Android 5 Lollipop. This guide is written assuming you already have Android 5 Lollipop installed on your Nexus 7 tablet. Many users of the Nexus 7 (particularly the 2012 model) have reported major performance issues since the Android 5 Lollipop "update". The majority of users reporting performance issues are those who received their update "over the air" (OTA) while keeping all of their old Apps and settings.
Because of this, if you are experiencing slowness and lag AFTER applying these tuning tips, I then recommend that you do a "Factory Reset" (see the Factory Reset section at the bottom of this guide). Just so you know, "Factory Reset" is a bit of misleading term, as your Nexus 7 probably did not come with Lollipop on it from the factory, and a "Factory Reset" will take you back to a clean base Android 5 Lollipop installation without any of your applications or settings retained. Try my recommended settings below first - many of these settings may make a difference in the performance you see on your Nexus 7 without doing the Factory Reset. If you flashed a factory image to get Lollipop on your Nexus 7, you got a clean base install, and probably don't need to worry about a Factory Reset.
Do you have enough cash? (if you have extra, you can send me some!)
Android Lollipop (and prior versions of Android) use a portion of your Nexus 7's storage space to hold temporary data about the programs you have run, or are running. This area of storage is called the "Recovery Cache" (pronounced "cash"). Over time this area of your storage can hold old outdated or not used information about your system and programs. It is highly recommended to wipe Recovery Cache on your Nexus 7. You do NOT need to do a "Factory Reset" (see above) to wipe Recovery Cache, and you will not lose any of your settings or Apps wiping your Recovery Cache. Wiping the cache at this point will help assure you have a trouble-free and well performing system. Please see the section "Wipe Recovery Cache" directly below on how to perform this important step.
Wipe Recovery Cache
Turn off your Nexus 7
When the device turns off, press & hold the Volume Down button, and then press & hold the Power button simultaneously until the device turns on, then release both buttons.
You'll see the word "Start" with an arrow drawn around it.
Press the Volume Down button twice to highlight Recovery mode.
Press the Power button to start Recovery mode, and release it. You'll see the Google logo, and after a moment you'll see an image of an Android robot laying on it's back with a red exclamation mark.
While holding down the Power button, press and hold the Volume Up button for a second, then release both buttons.
Use the volume buttons to scroll to "wipe cache partition" then briefly press the Power button to select it.
When the cache is cleared (may take a few seconds to a few minutes), press the Power button on the option "reboot system now."
OK, First Things First
When you first run Android Lollipop, it has some housekeeping chores it needs to perform. You want to help these processes as much as possible to improve the performance on your Nexus 7 both the first time you run Lollipop and as time continues.
Lollipop uses a new Android Run Time "engine" (ART) to run programs. ART needs to pre-compile all of the Apps that you install before Android can run them for the first time. This pre-compile is very resource intensive, the more Apps you install, the more compiling will take place. But it doesn't all take place at once! This compilation takes place in the background, usually in idle-time so if you install a bunch of Apps - be patient as Lollipop needs time to compile them. Lollipop assumes you want to run some Apps too, not just wait for your Apps to compile, so it balances time for you to run Apps while it waits to pre-compile others as idle system time allows. Give Lollipop a day or two (or even a week) to settle-in on your Nexus 7, then just remember Lollipop and ART will work in the background after you install new Apps before you actually have the App available to run. ART likes battery too, so be sure to keep your Nexus 7 charged as much as possible until things settle in.
Now that you know a little about ART, Launch the Google Play Store. Tap the 3 stacked bars in the upper left corner and then select "Settings". Select "Auto-update apps" and set the radio button to "Do not auto-update apps". This will prevent Google Play from auto-updating user applications and more importantly compiling them in the background while you are trying to tune/run your Nexus 7. The Google core applications (Maps, GMail, Chrome, etc.) will all still update with "Auto-Update" set to "Do not auto-update apps". You will still receive all notifications about updates from Google Play for Apps you have installed, if you turn on "Notifications" in the same Google Play settings screen where you disable auto-updates. It is recommended that you wait until all Google core Apps have updated, before you begin to install your own Apps, but I understand, easier said than done... Turning off auto-updates of your applications puts you in control of when and which App updates are applied, and the amount of work ART needs to do, and do it in a more controlled manner.
What? - There's More??
Yes! - as if there's not enough going on already in the background, Android Lollipop's Media Scanner also likes to run, reading through the entire storage space on your Nexus 7 looking for various media files to index so that your Apps later can read the index and find your songs, photos, and movie files. Be aware that Media Scanner runs each and every time you reboot your Nexus 7 too, and that uses a lot of battery and affects performance while it runs. I recommend not rebooting or powering off your Nexus 7 unless you need to, unless you want to rescan your media files often (totally un-necessary!). Let your Nexus 7 sleep while you're not using it, and if necessary, plug it in to charge. It's better anyway to leave it on so it can perform maintenance on itself during idle time, while it, and you, sleep.
What do you mean don't swipe, I'm not a thief!
Android Lollipop has an "Overview" button (the big square icon at the bottom right side of the main screen). It stores a graphical card list (Rolodex or Carousel style) of recently used and running Apps allowing you to easily switch between them. Quite a useful feature, quite nice to pick up where you left off! One change in Lollipop is that this list remains, even after a reboot. Speaking of unnecessary things, I recommend -not- removing Apps from the Overview List, and allowing Lollipop to manage them. I know... it feels like something you should do, but just ignore your urge to clear them, the Apps shown there are using limited or no resources and virtually not affecting your performance. Additionally, you'll be swiping them away all the time since there is no "Clear All" feature (by design!). Closing Apps from the Overview Rolodex menu panel takes time, system resources, and uses battery.
Now the fun stuff!
OK, now that we've got a few things out of the way, and you've met ART, wiped your Recovery Cache (you did, right??, if not go back and do it!), and possibly performed a Factory Reset, it's time to change some settings to help your Nexus 7 run smoother and be buttery smooth and snappy. While my settings are not for everyone, you can use them as a base for yours and then enable what you might need, like Bluetooth if you use a Bluetooth device, or enable NFC if you make payments with your Nexus 7 at point-of-sale terminals, etc. Let's go!
Settings --> Wi-Fi --> tap 3 dots upper right --> Advanced --> Scanning Always Available --> OFF
Settings --> Wi-Fi --> tap 3 dots upper right --> Advanced --> Keep Wi-Fi on during sleep --> Always
Settings --> Wi-Fi --> tap 3 dots upper right --> Advanced --> Wi-Fi frequency band --> Automatic (Nexus 7(13) model setting only!)
Settings --> Bluetooth --> OFF (unless you use it)
Settings --> More --> NFC --> OFF
Settings --> Display --> Adaptive Brightness - OFF
Settings --> Display --> Sleep --> 2 minutes
Settings --> Display --> Daydream - OFF
Settings --> Display --> When Device Is Rotated --> set to: "Stay in current orientation" (will save you about 3-5% constant CPU usage). This turns Auto-Rotate off. You can later toggle this on/off as one of the items in the Quick Settings panel with a two finger swipe down from the top on your main Launcher screen so switching it on/off later for NetFlix, etc. is easy.
Settings --> Sound & Notification --> Set all Volumes to lowest level you still can hear comfortably.
Settings --> Sound & Notification --> Events and Reminders --> ON
Settings --> Sound & Notification --> Messages --> OFF
Settings --> Sound & Notification --> Other Sounds --> Screen Locking Sounds --> OFF
Settings --> Sound & Notification --> Other Sounds --> Touch Sounds --> OFF
Settings --> Sound & Notification --> Pulse Notification light --> OFF (Nexus 7(13) only!)
Settings --> Sound & Notification --> When Device is locked --> Don't show notifications at all
Settings --> Sound & Notification --> App notifications --> be aware there are settings for notifications from each App you have. If you don't want Pandora for example notifying you when new music is added to a channel you are subscribed to, or song notifications, you can either set Pandora to Block --> ON, and/or set the Pandora Notifications to --> Priority
Settings --> Sound & Notification --> Notification access --> Uncheck All Boxes (don't allow any, also helps with data privacy!)
Settings --> Storage --> Tap the 3 dots in the upper right, USB computer connection --> set to MTP. This will allow your Nexus 7 to connect to your PC as a Media device. If you want to connect it as a camera to transfer photos, select PTP instead.
Settings --> Battery --> Tap the 3 dots in the upper right, Battery Saver --> OFF, and Turn on Automatically --> Never
Settings --> Location --> ON, set Mode also to Device Only for now. This activates the GPS chip/hardware location of your Nexus 7, but not software location services.
Settings --> Security --> Power button instantly locks --> OFF (this option will only show if you have a lock method specified in Settings --> Security - Screen Lock (I use a PIN).
Settings --> Security --> Owner Info (enter your name and phone number, "Reward if Found..., etc." here, this displays on the lock screen or if your Nexus 7 is rebooted.
Settings --> Security --> Trust Agents --> Deactivate All (turning off Smart Lock (Google) here, removes the display and configuration items in Settings --> Security --> Smart Lock, so if you want to use Smart Lock, (Face Unlock, etc.) leave this set ON. You can toggle it easily, so don't worry if you decide not to use Smart Lock initially, and later decide to use it).
Settings --> Security --> Screen Pinning --> OFF
Settings --> Accounts, select your Google account --> Privacy --> Search --> Google Now --> OFF
Settings --> Accounts, select your Google account --> Privacy --> Search --> Tablet Search --> Uncheck all boxes
Settings --> Accounts, select your Google account --> Privacy --> Search --> Voice --> "OK Google" detection --> all sliders set to OFF
Settings --> Accounts, select your Google account --> Privacy --> Search --> Voice --> Audio History --> OFF
Settings --> Accounts, select your Google account --> Privacy --> Search --> Voice --> Block offensive words --> OFF (damnit!)
Settings --> Accounts, select your Google account --> Ads --> Opt out of interest-based ads - slider set to ON
Settings --> Language & Input --> Voice Input --> Turn OFF "Enhanced Google services", turn ON "Basic Google recognition"
Settings --> Printing --> Cloud Print - OFF (this one really seems to help performance!!)
Developers Options
The following settings are in the 'Developer Options' section of your Settings. If you don't have a 'Developer Options' listed in your Settings, go to Settings --> About Tablet and tap "Build Number" 7 times to enable Developer Settings.
Settings --> Developer Options --> USB debugging --> ON (checked) (can be used later if necessary to recover your Nexus 7 or use advanced ADB commands). Just turn it on and leave it alone for now, no harm!
Settings --> Developer Options --> Use NuPlayer (experimental) --> OFF (unchecked)
Settings --> Developer Options --> Window animation scale --> Animation OFF
Settings --> Developer Options --> Transition animation scale --> Animation OFF
Settings --> Developer Options --> Animator duration scale --> Animation Off
To turn Developer Settings back off: Settings --> Developer Options --> slider switch at top right, OFF (more than OK to leave Developer Settings enabled however!)
More Google Settings
Now let's make some more changes to how your Google Account is associated with your Nexus 7. We covered some of these settings above, but lets go through them again anyway. Go to your App List (where you select icons from to drag to your desktop), and run the already installed App called "Google Settings" (you may be really surprised at some of the default settings!)
Tap the 3 dots upper right - Usage & Diagnostics - set Slider to OFF
Play Games - (you may receive a notice about a Google Account problem, just ignore it) "Level Up Notifications" - uncheck the box, make sure all boxes are unchecked. Also make sure to set "Game Profile" to "Hidden" in the Play Games settings.
Location - set slider to On, and Mode to "Device Only"
Disable 'Google Now' Search & Now --> Google Now, slide to OFF
Turn Tablet Search off - Search & Now --> Tablet Search, uncheck all the boxes.
Accounts & Privacy - all sliders set to OFF, especially "Personal Results", also, "Manage App History", uncheck App History
Voice - all sliders set to OFF
Security - set all sliders to OFF
Some other useful tips for great performance
Some users report intermittent or non-existent Wi-Fi connections after installing or updating to Lollipop. Make sure your wireless router is operating on Channel 11 or under. Lollipop seems to have problems with routers running Channels above 11. If you're not sure what channel your router is on, you can download the excellent free app called "Wifi Analyzer" by author "farproc" from Google Play to easily see these details. You can also make sure your router is not on the same channel as one of your neighbors with this must-have utility.
Check Google Play for updates to your applications regularly, especially for Google's core Apps (Google Maps, Google Play Music, Chrome Browser, etc.) themselves, which have recently updated. Many users are saying the newly updated Google Apps are boosting performance on the Nexus 7 as well. Remember you now have auto-update turned OFF for your Apps, so be sure to check Google Play often for updates and watch your notifications since we set notifications for App updates ON (above).
Use a 3rd Party Launcher! - What is a Launcher? The Launcher is the program that fires when you press the <Home> button (the circle) at the middle bottom of the main screen in Android. It is the program that you drop your icons and widgets onto to later "launch" them by tapping on them. Google provides a "stock" launcher with Lollipop - but you can easily replace it. Simply go to Google Play and select/install the Launcher you want to use, just like any other Android Application. In fact you can have several Launchers installed and switch between them easily. You don't delete the stock launcher, just add others, and select the new one to use, just as you can have two or three browsers installed on your system. Next Launcher 3D (my favorite!), Nova Launcher, Apex Launcher and Go Launcher are all good launcher choices. You can install one or all of them, and choose which one you want to use as you experiment more. To roll back to the original "stock" launcher after you have installed a (better!) Launcher, go into Settings --> (Device Section) --> Home, and select the radio button for the Launcher you would like to use. Using a different Launcher is easy, and does not require you to alter or "root" your Nexus 7, and switching back to the Google Launcher is even easier!
Note: If you choose Nova Launcher (an excellent choice for a first-timer changing Launchers!!), make this change in Nova: Nova Settings --> Desktop --> Wallpaper Scrolling --> Force.
Do not use a Live Wallpaper! Live Wallpapers eat CPU and battery. Later, once you achieve your performance nirvana on your Nexus 7 - you can then try a Live Wallpaper if you so desire.
Nexus 7(12) users - Don't forget you have a camera - Go to Google Play and install "Camera Nexus 7 (official)", Nexus 7(13) users should have Google Camera installed in Lollipop by default.
You may want to strongly consider replacing the stock Lollipop keyboard with a third party (better!) keyboard such as SwiftKey (free). This also seems to help boost performance some as well. You can always add a keyboard, change to it, try it, and change back to the stock quite easily in Settings --> Language & input. If you decide to keep the Lollipop (white) keyboard, be aware you can make it dark again and appear with separate keys by going to Settings --> Language & input, Google Keyboard --> Appearance & layouts --> Theme, and select Material Dark, or if you prefer the KitKat look, Holo Blue or Holo White.
Consider using a 3rd Party Browser to surf the web from your Nexus 7. Boat Browser, Ghostery Privacy Browser, Opera Mobile or Firefox are all good browser choices! If you choose to use Chrome, make sure to check for updates regularly! Many users report better luck using the latest beta version(s) of Chrome.
Too many Nexus 7 users having problems with performance are using the Facebook App. This can not be a coincidence. It is recommended that you uninstall the Facebook App, and use Facebook with a browser such as Firefox or Ghostery until you stabilize your Nexus 7, and/or until Facebook updates their application. Some users have reported great success using the App "Tinfoil for Facebook", available on Google Play, to access Facebook.
Factory Reset
To perform a Factory Reset (as referenced above in this guide): Settings --> Backup and Reset --> Factory Data Reset. Note: you will lose -ALL- of your personal data, music, pictures, etc., so back those items up if you wish to keep them.
Remember - Android 5 Lollipop is a major new release of Android, and is now just a few months old. I will continue to update this guide as I discover more in the settings, other new Android 5 versions for the Nexus 7 are released, or other tips & tricks are discovered to maximize performance of the Nexus 7. Please post any tips you find. All models of the Nexus 7 can run Lollipop outstandingly well, just not the way it is set to run out of the box. Best of luck achieving maximum performance, and have fun with your Nexus 7!!
Updated: 01/31/2015
I made a few updates to this Guide - post #1 of this thread. Now, includes the Nexus 7 Mobile tablets too, reworded some stuff, and added a few tips. Thank you all for your feedback along the way... !!!
Glad to see the LTE versions of the Nexus 7 get Lollipop too!
Many thanks as usual
I suggested your guide to several users of this fantastic tablet
May I create a couple of 3D into an italian forum (named ANDROIDIANI) recalling this your guide ?? Of course i will underline your reference, this 3D, etc ...
Yes, of course. No problem at all !!
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Yes, of course. No problem at all !!
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Ok thanks i will inform you when and where i forward your big guide
Ciao
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Here my first 2 post dedicated to your guide:
http://www.androidiani.com/forum/go...-per-lavorare-meglio-con-lollipop-jimtdi.html
http://www.androidiani.com/forum/go...-per-lavorare-meglio-con-lollipop-jimtdi.html
ciao and thanks so much
paolo
Many Thanks
Many thanks for this, very educational, I had not a clue about most of this.
Mick.
JimTDI said:
Welcome to JimTDI's Guide - Tuning the Nexus 7 with Android 5 Lollipop for Maximum Performance!
What's Up
The goal of this guide is to provide you with a well performing base for your Nexus 7 on which you can then build upon, enabling all the features of Lollipop that you want and need, and leaving the ones that affect performance and are unnecessary or unneeded by you, off or disabled.
Don't worry... we're not going to harm or do anything to your Nexus 7 that can't be easily undone. None of my tuning tips "alter" or "root" your Nexus 7, or do anything that would void your warranty - but let's face it, if you have a Nexus 7, it's probably old enough that it doesn't have a warranty anyway. That being said, use common sense, and make your own choices - I am not responsible for any damage to your Nexus 7 because of my recommendations and tuning tips. Rest assured though, I have tested my recommended settings extensively on both the Nexus 7 2012 and Nexus 7 2013 Wi-Fi models. I'll be as gentle, and as non-technical as possible as we tune your Nexus 7. So, let's begin...
This guide has been recently updated to cover tuning the latest released versions of Android 5 Lollipop on both the Nexus 7 2012 and Nexus 7 2013 Wi-Fi and Mobile models. I'll refer to them as the Nexus 7(12) or Nexus 7(13) hereafter when we need specifics.
The Nexus 7(12) was available in 3 models, with either 8, 16 or 32GB of storage memory - and with 1 GB of memory to run applications. The Nexus 7(13) was available with either 16 or 32GB of storage, and 2GBs of memory to run applications. There were Wi-Fi and mobile editions available. It's always prudent for a Nexus 7 owner to know the specifics of the tablet they own, especially when asking for help or seeking out support, repair, software patches or looking for accessories like a case, or parts.
If you're not sure which model you have here's a tip, if there's a camera on the back side (facing away from you) it's a 2013 model, if it has just a front-facing camera only (no camera on the backside), then it's a 2012.
As you can see from the above specs, the Nexus 7(12) has very limited application memory with just 1GB on board, just one half of what the Nexus 7(13) has. It also has a bit slower processor than the Nexus 7(13) does (you can look those specs up later). Therefore the goal of this guide is to reduce anything that uses excessive memory, battery, and processing power while still providing a buttery smooth, fully functional user interface. After all, that's what the Lollipop & the Material Design experience is all about
What's New
As of this writing (I update this guide regularly!) these are the current Android 5 Lollipop versions for the various Nexus 7 models. For the best performance, -MAKE SURE- you have the latest Android 5 Lollipop version for your particular Nexus 7 device.
Nexus 7(12) Wi-Fi 5.0.2 (prior release 5.0, no 5.0.1 version for the Nexus 7(12) was ever released).
Nexus 7(12) Mobile 5.0.2
Nexus 7(13) Wi-Fi 5.0.2 (prior releases 5.0, and 5.0.1)
Nexus 7(13) Mobile 5.0.2
Some users have received updates from Android 4.x to Android 5 Lollipop "over-the-air" (known as OTA), and some users have either side-loaded or flashed factory images of Android 5 Lollipop. This guide is written assuming you already have Android 5 Lollipop installed on your Nexus 7 tablet. Many users of the Nexus 7 (particularly the 2012 model) have reported major performance issues since the Android 5 Lollipop "update". The majority of users reporting performance issues are those who received their update "over the air" (OTA) while keeping all of their old Apps and settings.
Because of this, if you are experiencing slowness and lag AFTER applying these tuning tips, I then recommend that you do a "Factory Reset" (see the Factory Reset section at the bottom of this guide). Just so you know, "Factory Reset" is a bit of misleading term, as your Nexus 7 probably did not come with Lollipop on it from the factory, and a "Factory Reset" will take you back to a clean base Android 5 Lollipop installation without any of your applications or settings retained. Try my recommended settings below first - many of these settings may make a difference in the performance you see on your Nexus 7 without doing the Factory Reset. If you flashed a factory image to get Lollipop on your Nexus 7, you got a clean base install, and probably don't need to worry about a Factory Reset.
Do you have enough cash? (if you have extra, you can send me some!)
Android Lollipop (and prior versions of Android) use a portion of your Nexus 7's storage space to hold temporary data about the programs you have run, or are running. This area of storage is called the "Recovery Cache" (pronounced "cash"). Over time this area of your storage can hold old outdated or not used information about your system and programs. It is highly recommended to wipe Recovery Cache on your Nexus 7. You do NOT need to do a "Factory Reset" (see above) to wipe Recovery Cache, and you will not lose any of your settings or Apps wiping your Recovery Cache. Wiping the cache at this point will help assure you have a trouble-free and well performing system. Please see the section "Wipe Recovery Cache" directly below on how to perform this important step.
Wipe Recovery Cache
Turn off your Nexus 7
When the device turns off, press & hold the Volume Down button, and then press & hold the Power button simultaneously until the device turns on, then release both buttons.
You'll see the word "Start" with an arrow drawn around it.
Press the Volume Down button twice to highlight Recovery mode.
Press the Power button to start Recovery mode, and release it. You'll see the Google logo, and after a moment you'll see an image of an Android robot laying on it's back with a red exclamation mark.
While holding down the Power button, press and hold the Volume Up button for a second, then release both buttons.
Use the volume buttons to scroll to "wipe cache partition" then briefly press the Power button to select it.
When the cache is cleared (may take a few seconds to a few minutes), press the Power button on the option "reboot system now."
OK, First Things First
When you first run Android Lollipop, it has some housekeeping chores it needs to perform. You want to help these processes as much as possible to improve the performance on your Nexus 7 both the first time you run Lollipop and as time continues.
Lollipop uses a new Android Run Time "engine" (ART) to run programs. ART needs to pre-compile all of the Apps that you install before Android can run them for the first time. This pre-compile is very resource intensive, the more Apps you install, the more compiling will take place. But it doesn't all take place at once! This compilation takes place in the background, usually in idle-time so if you install a bunch of Apps - be patient as Lollipop needs time to compile them. Lollipop assumes you want to run some Apps too, not just wait for your Apps to compile, so it balances time for you to run Apps while it waits to pre-compile others as idle system time allows. Give Lollipop a day or two (or even a week) to settle-in on your Nexus 7, then just remember Lollipop and ART will work in the background after you install new Apps before you actually have the App available to run. ART likes battery too, so be sure to keep your Nexus 7 charged as much as possible until things settle in.
Now that you know a little about ART, Launch the Google Play Store. Tap the 3 stacked bars in the upper left corner and then select "Settings". Select "Auto-update apps" and set the radio button to "Do not auto-update apps". This will prevent Google Play from auto-updating user applications and more importantly compiling them in the background while you are trying to tune/run your Nexus 7. The Google core applications (Maps, GMail, Chrome, etc.) will all still update with "Auto-Update" set to "Do not auto-update apps". You will still receive all notifications about updates from Google Play for Apps you have installed, if you turn on "Notifications" in the same Google Play settings screen where you disable auto-updates. It is recommended that you wait until all Google core Apps have updated, before you begin to install your own Apps, but I understand, easier said than done... Turning off auto-updates of your applications puts you in control of when and which App updates are applied, and the amount of work ART needs to do, and do it in a more controlled manner.
What? - There's More??
Yes! - as if there's not enough going on already in the background, Android Lollipop's Media Scanner also likes to run, reading through the entire storage space on your Nexus 7 looking for various media files to index so that your Apps later can read the index and find your songs, photos, and movie files. Be aware that Media Scanner runs each and every time you reboot your Nexus 7 too, and that uses a lot of battery and affects performance while it runs. I recommend not rebooting or powering off your Nexus 7 unless you need to, unless you want to rescan your media files often (totally un-necessary!). Let your Nexus 7 sleep while you're not using it, and if necessary, plug it in to charge. It's better anyway to leave it on so it can perform maintenance on itself during idle time, while it, and you, sleep.
What do you mean don't swipe, I'm not a thief!
Android Lollipop has an "Overview" button (the big square icon at the bottom right side of the main screen). It stores a graphical card list (Rolodex or Carousel style) of recently used and running Apps allowing you to easily switch between them. Quite a useful feature, quite nice to pick up where you left off! One change in Lollipop is that this list remains, even after a reboot. Speaking of unnecessary things, I recommend -not- removing Apps from the Overview List, and allowing Lollipop to manage them. I know... it feels like something you should do, but just ignore your urge to clear them, the Apps shown there are using limited or no resources and virtually not affecting your performance. Additionally, you'll be swiping them away all the time since there is no "Clear All" feature (by design!). Closing Apps from the Overview Rolodex menu panel takes time, system resources, and uses battery.
Now the fun stuff!
OK, now that we've got a few things out of the way, and you've met ART, wiped your Recovery Cache (you did, right??, if not go back and do it!), and possibly performed a Factory Reset, it's time to change some settings to help your Nexus 7 run smoother and be buttery smooth and snappy. While my settings are not for everyone, you can use them as a base for yours and then enable what you might need, like Bluetooth if you use a Bluetooth device, or enable NFC if you make payments with your Nexus 7 at point-of-sale terminals, etc. Let's go!
Settings --> Wi-Fi --> tap 3 dots upper right --> Advanced --> Scanning Always Available --> OFF
Settings --> Wi-Fi --> tap 3 dots upper right --> Advanced --> Keep Wi-Fi on during sleep --> Always
Settings --> Wi-Fi --> tap 3 dots upper right --> Advanced --> Wi-Fi frequency band --> Automatic (Nexus 7(13) model setting only!)
Settings --> Bluetooth --> OFF (unless you use it)
Settings --> More --> NFC --> OFF
Settings --> Display --> Adaptive Brightness - OFF
Settings --> Display --> Sleep --> 2 minutes
Settings --> Display --> Daydream - OFF
Settings --> Display --> When Device Is Rotated --> set to: "Stay in current orientation" (will save you about 3-5% constant CPU usage). This turns Auto-Rotate off. You can later toggle this on/off as one of the items in the Quick Settings panel with a two finger swipe down from the top on your main Launcher screen so switching it on/off later for NetFlix, etc. is easy.
Settings --> Sound & Notification --> Set all Volumes to lowest level you still can hear comfortably.
Settings --> Sound & Notification --> Events and Reminders --> ON
Settings --> Sound & Notification --> Messages --> OFF
Settings --> Sound & Notification --> Other Sounds --> Screen Locking Sounds --> OFF
Settings --> Sound & Notification --> Other Sounds --> Touch Sounds --> OFF
Settings --> Sound & Notification --> Pulse Notification light --> OFF (Nexus 7(13) only!)
Settings --> Sound & Notification --> When Device is locked --> Don't show notifications at all
Settings --> Sound & Notification --> App notifications --> be aware there are settings for notifications from each App you have. If you don't want Pandora for example notifying you when new music is added to a channel you are subscribed to, or song notifications, you can either set Pandora to Block --> ON, and/or set the Pandora Notifications to --> Priority
Settings --> Sound & Notification --> Notification access --> Uncheck All Boxes (don't allow any, also helps with data privacy!)
Settings --> Storage --> Tap the 3 dots in the upper right, USB computer connection --> set to MTP. This will allow your Nexus 7 to connect to your PC as a Media device. If you want to connect it as a camera to transfer photos, select PTP instead.
Settings --> Battery --> Tap the 3 dots in the upper right, Battery Saver --> OFF, and Turn on Automatically --> Never
Settings --> Location --> ON, set Mode also to Device Only for now. This activates the GPS chip/hardware location of your Nexus 7, but not software location services.
Settings --> Security --> Power button instantly locks --> OFF (this option will only show if you have a lock method specified in Settings --> Security - Screen Lock (I use a PIN).
Settings --> Security --> Owner Info (enter your name and phone number, "Reward if Found..., etc." here, this displays on the lock screen or if your Nexus 7 is rebooted.
Settings --> Security --> Trust Agents --> Deactivate All (turning off Smart Lock (Google) here, removes the display and configuration items in Settings --> Security --> Smart Lock, so if you want to use Smart Lock, (Face Unlock, etc.) leave this set ON. You can toggle it easily, so don't worry if you decide not to use Smart Lock initially, and later decide to use it).
Settings --> Security --> Screen Pinning --> OFF
Settings --> Accounts, select your Google account --> Privacy --> Search --> Google Now --> OFF
Settings --> Accounts, select your Google account --> Privacy --> Search --> Tablet Search --> Uncheck all boxes
Settings --> Accounts, select your Google account --> Privacy --> Search --> Voice --> "OK Google" detection --> all sliders set to OFF
Settings --> Accounts, select your Google account --> Privacy --> Search --> Voice --> Audio History --> OFF
Settings --> Accounts, select your Google account --> Privacy --> Search --> Voice --> Block offensive words --> OFF (damnit!)
Settings --> Accounts, select your Google account --> Ads --> Opt out of interest-based ads - slider set to ON
Settings --> Language & Input --> Voice Input --> Turn OFF "Enhanced Google services", turn ON "Basic Google recognition"
Settings --> Printing --> Cloud Print - OFF (this one really seems to help performance!!)
Developers Options
The following settings are in the 'Developer Options' section of your Settings. If you don't have a 'Developer Options' listed in your Settings, go to Settings --> About Tablet and tap "Build Number" 7 times to enable Developer Settings.
Settings --> Developer Options --> USB debugging --> ON (checked) (can be used later if necessary to recover your Nexus 7 or use advanced ADB commands). Just turn it on and leave it alone for now, no harm!
Settings --> Developer Options --> Use NuPlayer (experimental) --> OFF (unchecked)
Settings --> Developer Options --> Window animation scale --> Animation OFF
Settings --> Developer Options --> Transition animation scale --> Animation OFF
Settings --> Developer Options --> Animator duration scale --> Animation Off
To turn Developer Settings back off: Settings --> Developer Options --> slider switch at top right, OFF (more than OK to leave Developer Settings enabled however!)
More Google Settings
Now let's make some more changes to how your Google Account is associated with your Nexus 7. We covered some of these settings above, but lets go through them again anyway. Go to your App List (where you select icons from to drag to your desktop), and run the already installed App called "Google Settings" (you may be really surprised at some of the default settings!)
Tap the 3 dots upper right - Usage & Diagnostics - set Slider to OFF
Play Games - (you may receive a notice about a Google Account problem, just ignore it) "Level Up Notifications" - uncheck the box, make sure all boxes are unchecked. Also make sure to set "Game Profile" to "Hidden" in the Play Games settings.
Location - set slider to On, and Mode to "Device Only"
Disable 'Google Now' Search & Now --> Google Now, slide to OFF
Turn Tablet Search off - Search & Now --> Tablet Search, uncheck all the boxes.
Accounts & Privacy - all sliders set to OFF, especially "Personal Results", also, "Manage App History", uncheck App History
Voice - all sliders set to OFF
Security - set all sliders to OFF
Some other useful tips for great performance
Some users report intermittent or non-existent Wi-Fi connections after installing or updating to Lollipop. Make sure your wireless router is operating on Channel 11 or under. Lollipop seems to have problems with routers running Channels above 11. If you're not sure what channel your router is on, you can download the excellent free app called "Wifi Analyzer" by author "farproc" from Google Play to easily see these details. You can also make sure your router is not on the same channel as one of your neighbors with this must-have utility.
Check Google Play for updates to your applications regularly, especially for Google's core Apps (Google Maps, Google Play Music, Chrome Browser, etc.) themselves, which have recently updated. Many users are saying the newly updated Google Apps are boosting performance on the Nexus 7 as well. Remember you now have auto-update turned OFF for your Apps, so be sure to check Google Play often for updates and watch your notifications since we set notifications for App updates ON (above).
Use a 3rd Party Launcher! - What is a Launcher? The Launcher is the program that fires when you press the <Home> button (the circle) at the middle bottom of the main screen in Android. It is the program that you drop your icons and widgets onto to later "launch" them by tapping on them. Google provides a "stock" launcher with Lollipop - but you can easily replace it. Simply go to Google Play and select/install the Launcher you want to use, just like any other Android Application. In fact you can have several Launchers installed and switch between them easily. You don't delete the stock launcher, just add others, and select the new one to use, just as you can have two or three browsers installed on your system. Next Launcher 3D (my favorite!), Nova Launcher, Apex Launcher and Go Launcher are all good launcher choices. You can install one or all of them, and choose which one you want to use as you experiment more. To roll back to the original "stock" launcher after you have installed a (better!) Launcher, go into Settings --> (Device Section) --> Home, and select the radio button for the Launcher you would like to use. Using a different Launcher is easy, and does not require you to alter or "root" your Nexus 7, and switching back to the Google Launcher is even easier!
Note: If you choose Nova Launcher (an excellent choice for a first-timer changing Launchers!!), make this change in Nova: Nova Settings --> Desktop --> Wallpaper Scrolling --> Force.
Do not use a Live Wallpaper! Live Wallpapers eat CPU and battery. Later, once you achieve your performance nirvana on your Nexus 7 - you can then try a Live Wallpaper if you so desire.
Nexus 7(12) users - Don't forget you have a camera - Go to Google Play and install "Camera Nexus 7 (official)", Nexus 7(13) users should have Google Camera installed in Lollipop by default.
You may want to strongly consider replacing the stock Lollipop keyboard with a third party (better!) keyboard such as SwiftKey (free). This also seems to help boost performance some as well. You can always add a keyboard, change to it, try it, and change back to the stock quite easily in Settings --> Language & input. If you decide to keep the Lollipop (white) keyboard, be aware you can make it dark again and appear with separate keys by going to Settings --> Language & input, Google Keyboard --> Appearance & layouts --> Theme, and select Material Dark, or if you prefer the KitKat look, Holo Blue or Holo White.
Consider using a 3rd Party Browser to surf the web from your Nexus 7. Boat Browser, Ghostery Privacy Browser, Opera Mobile or Firefox are all good browser choices! If you choose to use Chrome, make sure to check for updates regularly! Many users report better luck using the latest beta version(s) of Chrome.
Too many Nexus 7 users having problems with performance are using the Facebook App. This can not be a coincidence. It is recommended that you uninstall the Facebook App, and use Facebook with a browser such as Firefox or Ghostery until you stabilize your Nexus 7, and/or until Facebook updates their application. Some users have reported great success using the App "Tinfoil for Facebook", available on Google Play, to access Facebook.
Factory Reset
To perform a Factory Reset (as referenced above in this guide): Settings --> Backup and Reset --> Factory Data Reset. Note: you will lose -ALL- of your personal data, music, pictures, etc., so back those items up if you wish to keep them.
Remember - Android 5 Lollipop is a major new release of Android, and is now just a few months old. I will continue to update this guide as I discover more in the settings, other new Android 5 versions for the Nexus 7 are released, or other tips & tricks are discovered to maximize performance of the Nexus 7. Please post any tips you find. All models of the Nexus 7 can run Lollipop outstandingly well, just not the way it is set to run out of the box. Best of luck achieving maximum performance, and have fun with your Nexus 7!!
Updated: 01/31/2015
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I just posted a new version of my Tuning Guide for the Nexus 7 & Lollipop here:
https://productforums.google.com/d/msg/nexus/EWUtW5-fVrE/zgxJ-S7NSNkJ
I would update it here, but the document is too big now according to a message from this forum when trying to save it...
JimTDI said:
I just posted a new version of my Tuning Guide for the Nexus 7 & Lollipop here:
https://productforums.google.com/d/msg/nexus/EWUtW5-fVrE/zgxJ-S7NSNkJ
I would update it here, but the document is too big now according to a message from this forum when trying to save it...
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I will post my issue and dubt regarding N7 2012 3G with LL there
Many thanks
Paolo
Hello. Thanks for your very useful Guide. Having gone through all your steps I feel my Nexus-7 2012 has improved (less problems) but now I cannot get any sound from the keyboard pressing. Unlike many users, we prefer sound as I can tell whether or not a character has been pressed, eg when entering password. When I go to settings/options etc etc I cannot see any option that allows me to turn keyboard sounds on and off. Perhaps that is being governed by some other weird settings somewhere. Can you help please? Like so many other people, my Nexus-7 was screwed up by Android 5. I am on 5.1.1 ie the latest/last for this machine. Kept failing to respond, or dying to black, though never predictable. Always fine on Android 4 that it came with.
Hi - yes, 5.1.1 crippled many a Nexus 7. Can you tell me the values for Settings > Language & Input > Current Keyboard? If it's the Google Keyboard, touch that (right below current keyboard) then select Preferences > Sound on keypress (make sure it's turned on), and also check Volume on keypress there in the keyboard preferences. If you're using a different keyboard, then we may need to approach this differently to solve your problem.
HI Jim,
our N7 is really too old but ... sometimes some owners ask me on Italian forum in which way they can speed their N7 with LL
I always forward them to this topic and to your very interesting guide
Thanks a lot for all your effort addressed to N7
Really appreciate
Ciao
Paolo
paolocorpo said:
HI Jim,
our N7 is really too old but ... sometimes some owners ask me on Italian forum in which way they can speed their N7 with LL
I always forward them to this topic and to your very interesting guide
Thanks a lot for all your effort addressed to N7
Really appreciate
Ciao
Paolo
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Thank you Paolo for your kind words!
-Jim
Cant get Keyboard to click
Hello. Thanks for the Guide. I used it to try to fix my Nexus-7 2012 after the dreaded Android 5 update. It is a bit better after your suggested changes to settings, though still far from good compared to what it was like under Android 4. A key annoying problem is that I cant get the keyboard to click when I try to login to the tablet. I have tried what seems like everything but nothing works. Clicking is important to me because otherwise it is very difficult to tell whether a key stroke has been accepted or not, which is essential when entering passwords. Thanks for any help. Regards Roger Keynes
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Sorry. Just realised you had replied earlier to my original post. I will look for my settings shortly and post them here. Regards RK
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Sorry. Just realised you had replied earlier to my original post. I will look for my settings shortly and post them here. Regards RK
No clicking from keyboard
Hello again. The Current Keyboard is English (UK) Gboard, which I believe is the Google Keyboard. Preferences seem to show Sound-on-keypress being ON, and Volume on keypress being 98%. I would have expected that to give me clicking, but it doesnt. Tablet has been turned off and on (many many times of course, due to the frustrations with it hanging up etc) but still I get no clicking. The tablet is basically just as it came orignally, apart from the 'automatically delivered' Android updates, and addition of various Apps from Google Play. No attempt ever made to 'root' it, or anything like that. Any help would be welcomed. Thanks and regards Roger K
PS... Sorry for any mistakes trying to use this forum...not intentional!
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Sorry but not sure whether you will have seen my keyboard settings that you asked for. I'm obviously not very good at using these forums. In case you didnt see my reply, it says keyboard is Gboard, and Sound on keypress seems to be ON, and Volume on keypress set to 98%. Thanks for any help, regards Roger Keynes
Re: keyboard click
Hello again Jim. Are you able to give me some help with this (refce my post in August)? Sorry but I'm not sure exactly where or how to look for any feedback from you. Perhaps you are on holiday, on maybe not monitoring this any longer? Kind regards, Roger Keynes, Beanosenior.
Do you hear any touch sounds? I have a PIN set and I do get sounds when I enter it to unlock my Nexus 7. I also tried a GMail with GBoard as my keyboard. I am able to hear keypresses there also, so try looking at Settings > Sound & notification > Other Sounds > Touch Sounds > slide to ON.
Sorry it took me a bit of time to get back with you - you're right, I was on holiday.
Keyboard clicks - Touch sounds
JimTDI said:
Do you hear any touch sounds? I have a PIN set and I do get sounds when I enter it to unlock my Nexus 7. I also tried a GMail with GBoard as my keyboard. I am able to hear keypresses there also, so try looking at Settings > Sound & notification > Other Sounds > Touch Sounds > slide to ON.
Sorry it took me a bit of time to get back with you - you're right, I was on holiday.
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Hi Jim. Thanks for your feedback. I checked as you suggested, and found that Touch Sounds is already set to ON, and Screen locking sounds is also set to ON. (Docking sounds was OFF, and although I dont think that setting is relevant for me I did turn it on, and powered the N7 off and back on but no change; still no clicking. The places I want clicking are 1) when logging in to the N7, ie to unlock it (what you called a PIN I think), and 2) when putting in password to log in to my email (the latter not gmail but some other provider, but essentially the same thing as you said in your reply). It's really odd. If it hadnt been originally clicking (under Android 4) I perhaps would never have realised that it COULD click! The N7 is in one of those fairly standard protective cases, ie when you close the cover the N7 goes off. We use the machine mainly for downloading the daily TIMES Newspaper, and when away on holiday without laptop then we also use it for Internet and Email. There are many Apps loaded on it but few are used. There's plenty of space available. Every night we charge it up fully. Apart from the clicking issue, the only problem we have is that on some days/times it seems to be hanging, and it's a pig to get into, ie struggle to get to the PIN/login screen. In some of those cases we might see the msg that the UI (user interface I guess) is not responding. The only way to fix it is to power off (hold power button in for 10 secs or so). Sometimes even that does not work at the first try. Though the WiFi signal in the house is showing as fairly week, it doesnt really seem to be that per-se which is affecting it. We've been on holiday where the signal was much better but still had similar problems. As you can guess from the above, patience is needed when using the N7; and it wasnt like that under Android 4. I have a little more patience in this particular respect than my dear wife! Once you finally get to the PIN screen, and on to the Times App, or the Internet/Email, it seems to work quite reasonably. Not that fast, but at least tolerable. All your suggestions in the guide have, I think, helped, but as you can gather there's still a fair frequency of despair! I keep thinking of ditching it for a more modern tablet (Samsung S2 seems good even though 2+ years old), but then the good old N7 behaves for a while and i continue to save my money...... Any thoughts welcomed. Best regards.
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Hi Jim. Thanks for your feedback. I checked as you suggested, and found that Touch Sounds is already set to ON, and Screen locking sounds is also set to ON. (Docking sounds was OFF, and although I dont think that setting is relevant for me I did turn it on, and powered the N7 off and back on but no change; still no clicking. The places I want clicking are 1) when logging in to the N7, ie to unlock it (what you called a PIN I think), and 2) when putting in password to log in to my email (the latter not gmail but some other provider, but essentially the same thing as you said in your reply). It's really odd. If it hadnt been originally clicking (under Android 4) I perhaps would never have realised that it COULD click! The N7 is in one of those fairly standard protective cases, ie when you close the cover the N7 goes off. We use the machine mainly for downloading the daily TIMES Newspaper, and when away on holiday without laptop then we also use it for Internet and Email. There are many Apps loaded on it but few are used. There's plenty of space available. Every night we charge it up fully. Apart from the clicking issue, the only problem we have is that on some days/times it seems to be hanging, and it's a pig to get into, ie struggle to get to the PIN/login screen. In some of those cases we might see the msg that the UI (user interface I guess) is not responding. The only way to fix it is to power off (hold power button in for 10 secs or so). Sometimes even that does not work at the first try. Though the WiFi signal in the house is showing as fairly week, it doesnt really seem to be that per-se which is affecting it. We've been on holiday where the signal was much better but still had similar problems. As you can guess from the above, patience is needed when using the N7; and it wasnt like that under Android 4. I have a little more patience in this particular respect than my dear wife! Once you finally get to the PIN screen, and on to the Times App, or the Internet/Email, it seems to work quite reasonably. Not that fast, but at least tolerable. All your suggestions in the guide have, I think, helped, but as you can gather there's still a fair frequency of despair! I keep thinking of ditching it for a more modern tablet (Samsung S2 seems good even though 2+ years old), but then the good old N7 behaves for a while and i continue to save my money...... Any thoughts welcomed. Best regards.
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Not quite sure what to recommend to you as far as getting your clicking back, sorry.
As far as performance goes - on one of my Nexus 7s (2012) I am running what's called Pure Nexus and it's running really fast. If you feel technically comfortable with altering your Nexus 7 it might be a way to go...
After a lot of time using stock rom and your tips and tricks I have decided to downgrade from 5 to 4 version
The usage with 5 is very ... unusable
I am obligated to use rom stock because unfortunately I have an app that cannot runs with Tom custom
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paolocorpo said:
After a lot of time using stock rom and your tips and tricks I have decided to downgrade from 5 to 4 version
The usage with 5 is very ... unusable
I am obligated to use rom stock because unfortunately I have an app that cannot runs with Tom custom
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I get it... Lollipop did a number on many of the Nexus 7(12s), hence the guide. Good luck flashing back!
Is there a way to have the date/time (and maybe battery %) on the 2nd screen when the screen is *on* ? I can only see if as an option when it's off.
I also tried the music controls, but while it shows Spotify the controls don't work for me.
And dangit, I still can't put a Phone shortcut (not an app shortcut) on the favorites (a Folder Organizer shortcut in my case pointing to a folder of apps).
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Is there a way to have the date/time (and maybe battery %) on the 2nd screen when the screen is *on* ? I can only see if as an option when it's off.
I also tried the music controls, but while it shows Spotify the controls don't work for me.
And dangit, I still can't put a Phone shortcut (not an app shortcut) on the favorites (a Folder Organizer shortcut in my case pointing to a folder of apps).
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While the display is on, time, date, and battery percent is kinda useless on the second screen. I don't see the options. While the main display is off, its a good idea, and that's why LG made it available.
Spotify works great for me with the main screen off and on.
You cannot move the info to the second screen unless you're viewing something like media or playing some games. To put a shortcut up on the second screen you'll need to leave one shortcut blank, and then create a shortcut of your choice to the home screen and drag it up to the second screen and drop it. You cannot put entire folders on the second screen though.
leyvatron said:
While the display is on, time, date, and battery percent is kinda useless on the second screen. I don't see the options. While the main display is off, its a good idea, and that's why LG made it available.
Spotify works great for me with the main screen off and on.
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I have a few apps that run in full screen (like Kindle*) where I'd like to be able to put up the date/time. Not sure why LG *wouldn't* give us the option to have it there if we wanted it. I mean, to me, the signature thing is just silly, but I realize that some people may like it.
Will try a reboot shortly to see if Spotify kicks in.
I know I'm only 1/2 a day into the phone, but so far the 2nd screen isn't doing what I imagined it would. I'l also pretty disappointed in how notifications work on it. Would like to have the entire bar be the notification w/summary & just stay there until I dismiss it.
Likewise, when the phone is off and I get a notification, I just see an icon. There a way to get a summary or something without turning the phone on, or should I go back to Dynamic Notifications (the app) ?
While not the only factor, the 2nd screen was the main reason I picked the LG over the Pixel XL.
*Kindle - I haven't checked in a while to see if there is a way to disable full screen. Need to check settings for it.
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I have a few apps that run in full screen (like Kindle*) where I'd like to be able to put up the date/time. Not sure why LG *wouldn't* give us the option to have it there if we wanted it. I mean, to me, the signature thing is just silly, but I realize that some people may like it.
Will try a reboot shortly to see if Spotify kicks in.
I know I'm only 1/2 a day into the phone, but so far the 2nd screen isn't doing what I imagined it would. I'l also pretty disappointed in how notifications work on it. Would like to have the entire bar be the notification w/summary & just stay there until I dismiss it.
Likewise, when the phone is off and I get a notification, I just see an icon. There a way to get a summary or something without turning the phone on, or should I go back to Dynamic Notifications (the app) ?
While not the only factor, the 2nd screen was the main reason I picked the LG over the Pixel XL.
*Kindle - I haven't checked in a while to see if there is a way to disable full screen. Need to check settings for it.
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I agree. I would rather take the date and time than the signature.
LG should set a limit with the 2nd screen display. My 2nd display gives me a short summary of my notification with screen on or off for a second or two.
Your spotify issue isn't related to the phone its the latest version that has a crapload of bugs I suggest downgrading to 6.2 to fix it. It isn't the phone, try pandora or google music and you'll find they work fine.
Follow these steps to downgrade:
- uninstall Spotify
- make sure auto update in playstore is disabled or it'll automatically update you back to 6.3
- enable the ability to install apps outside of the playstore (I suggest disabling this setting once you've installed 6.2)
- go to http://www.apkmirror.com/apk/spotify-ltd/spotify/spotify-6-2-0-1028-release/
- download the apk for ARM architecture and install it
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polstein said:
I have a few apps that run in full screen (like Kindle*) where I'd like to be able to put up the date/time. Not sure why LG *wouldn't* give us the option to have it there if we wanted it. I mean, to me, the signature thing is just silly, but I realize that some people may like it.
Will try a reboot shortly to see if Spotify kicks in.
I know I'm only 1/2 a day into the phone, but so far the 2nd screen isn't doing what I imagined it would. I'l also pretty disappointed in how notifications work on it. Would like to have the entire bar be the notification w/summary & just stay there until I dismiss it.
Likewise, when the phone is off and I get a notification, I just see an icon. There a way to get a summary or something without turning the phone on, or should I go back to Dynamic Notifications (the app) ?
While not the only factor, the 2nd screen was the main reason I picked the LG over the Pixel XL.
*Kindle - I haven't checked in a while to see if there is a way to disable full screen. Need to check settings for it.
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Read my post above you.. Go to second screen options and select "more" and then toggle the slider. This allows for the time and date to go to the second screen when in full screen.
Swizzle82 said:
Read my post above you.. Go to second screen options and select "more" and then toggle the slider. This allows for the time and date to go to the second screen when in full screen.
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Which version of the V20 do you have, i have the verizon one and dont have this setting
bayniner said:
Which version of the V20 do you have, i have the verizon one and dont have this setting
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Oh that sucks.. I'm on Tmo..
Swizzle82 said:
To put a shortcut up on the second screen you'll need to leave one shortcut blank, and then create a shortcut of your choice to the home screen and drag it up to the second screen and drop it. You cannot put entire folders on the second screen though.
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Wow, don't think I would have discovered this trick myself, THANK YOU - this one was VERY important to me !!!
(You can get an entire folder if you cheat - I use Folder Organizer & make a shortcut to a "Home" group that I put a Shortcut to using your method. This home group has 20 shortcuts, including 5 "sub-folders" and 15 favorite apps. Subfolders are Tools, Internet, Multimedia, Games & Apps. Some of those folders have sub-folders as well. Then you can use this same "Home" shortcut in other places as well.)
bayniner said:
Which version of the V20 do you have, i have the verizon one and dont have this setting
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Verizon does have it, its under second screen settings.
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leyvatron said:
Verizon does have it, its under second screen settings.
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Yea i found it, i was looking for a more section since the tmobile one is under more lol
Does anyone know how to get the 2nd display to "Auto-Scroll/ScreenSaver" mode,as shown in this video (FastForward to the 3:00 mark) :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnB2gsR9XYI
probably a thing when you have that case maybe.
Tidbits said:
probably a thing when you have that case maybe.
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I have it,arrived earlier today,& I've looked in the following settings:
Display/SecondScreen/Home Screen/LockScreen/Assessibility/QuickCover Case/Developer Options
I was thinking perhaps in some Hidden Menu settings via dialer,IDK?
It looks like it does it on it's own? When I look at it he didn't play with any setting and it did that
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Tidbits said:
It looks like it does it on it's own? When I look at it he didn't play with any setting and it did that
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Yeah,that's what I'm trying to figure out,perhaps it's model-specific?
One wouldn't think so,but,ya never know.
The only other thing I can think of is he's got an app installed that enables this,if it's not a hidden menu item.
I'm gonna look around in there,see if anything jumps out,I'll post again if I find something..................
@Tidbits
I figured out what's going on:
If you make your "signature" long enough,it will scroll as shown in the video,but,it only makes one revolution & stops.
At least the functionality seems to exist for an endless screen roll,perhaps someone with the capability will develop an app to expand on this.
Has anybody tried playing games like Traffic rider and notice that the 2nd screen doesnt work? I mean if i tap on it, it just shows the time any notification icon. No quick settings or previous app option?
Just thought to have a thread where I will try to compile all suggestions and feedback regarding the phone -- be it hardware or software (EMUI). Hope you guys think this is a good idea...
compiling a list...
1. Customisable notification lights -- whether to turn on notification LED for charging, type of colour for different events, etc... (see OP)
2. Separate volume for notification. (see OP)
3. Remove the CD-Drive where HiSuite is stored (see OP)
4. Default USB mode does not seem to work. enabled it on Develop options and set MTP as default but still, it goes to charging mode only on my phone (see OP)
5. Option to disable auto beauty mode when using front facing cam. i'm one of those that don't like beauty mode. or at least a settings where we can turn it on/ off as default. (see OP)
6. Option to manually change screen resolution to 1080p or even 720p. right now, it's automatic and comes under power savings options. (see OP)
7. Double-tap to wake. (see OP)
8. improve on smart unlock -- paired with my fitness band but the smart unlock behavior is erratic. sometimes does not work. (see OP)
9. Mobile Data stats to track usage needs a major improvement -- ability to change data cycle date. not every data cycle starts on 1st of calendar month. mine starts almost mid month, so this Mobile Data thingy is quite useless in tracking and reminding me of usage. should stick to something simple like what Samsung has got. (see OP)
10. Improve/ Reorganise options in settings. (see OP)
11. No notification when low resolution mode kicks in. Also see point 6 above. (see OP)
12. Improve on volume level, especially when using earphones. Also, an equalizer? (see OP)
13. Themes that does more than just change wallpaper and icons. (see OP)
14. Clicking sound on the power button. (see OP)
15. Charging speed when phone is used should be faster. Currently very slow. (see OP)
16. More improvements on the camera - better overall quality (including in low light) and speed. (see OP) (see OP)
17. More options for selecting network-type (which SIM gets 4G, 3G, 2G only, etc). (see OP)
18. Club honor forum needs some reworking. (see OP)
19. Expand on the menu in Power Button. (see OP)
20. Improve on low-light photography (see OP)
21. Heat issue after prolonged use of camera (4K recording) (see OP)
22. Photo and video using both front and rear camera. I know Samsung has got this and I quite love it. Useful for those still not using selfie stick. Plus, for video and doing livestream, being able to use both can be fun! <-- This seems to be on the new Nokia 8. Even if it's not possible on video, would be nice to see this option for photos.
23. Improve App Twin. Currently only two apps. Would be better if users can just clone any apps. (see OP)
24. Add quick menu on camera editable -- users can customise what they want on the camera apps' quick menu. That way, we can put whatever settings we like. Perhaps HDR. (see OP)
25. More icons/ options for Quick Access. There could be many more options like Auto Sync. (see OP)
26. Allow warranty claims even on rooted devices like OnePlus. (see OP)
27. Enhance the PIN entry screen. (see OP)
28. Allow contact events (like birthdates) to be entered without YEAR. (see OP)
and to kick things off, my own list of suggestions:
1. customisable notification lights -- whether to turn on notification LED for charging, type of colour for different events, etc...
2. separate volume for notification
3. remove the CD-Drive where HiSuite is stored
4. default USB mode does not seem to work. enabled it on Develop options and set MTP as default but still, it goes to charging mode only on my phone
5. option to disable auto beauty mode when using front facing cam. i'm one of those that don't like beauty mode. or at least a settings where we can turn it on/ off as default.
6. option to manually change screen resolution to 1080p or even 720p. right now, it's automatic and comes under power savings options.
7. double-tap to wake
8. improve on smart unlock -- paired with my fitness band but the smart unlock behavior is erratic. sometimes does not work.
9. that Mobile Data to track usage needs a major improvement -- ability to change data cycle date. not every data cycle starts on 1st of calendar month. mine starts almost mid month, so this Mobile Data thingy is quite useless in tracking and reminding me of usage. should stick to something simple like what Samsung has got.
mydragoon said:
and to kick things off, my own list of suggestions:
1. customisable notification lights -- whether to turn on notification LED for charging, type of colour for different events, etc...
2. separate volume for notification
3. remove the CD-Drive where HiSuite is stored
4. default USB mode does not seem to work. enabled it on Develop options and set MTP as default but still, it goes to charging mode only on my phone
5. option to disable auto beauty mode when using front facing cam. i'm one of those that don't like beauty mode. or at least a settings where we can turn it on/ off as default.
6. option to manually change screen resolution to 1080p or even 720p. right now, it's automatic and comes under power savings options.
7. double-tap to wake
8. improve on smart unlock -- paired with my fitness band but the smart unlock behavior is erratic. sometimes does not work.
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Your list of suggestions is definitely a good start. IMHO, suggestions 1,2,7 are to be given high priority followed by 5,6 and 8. Regarding 3&4 I have observed the same default action on all my previous OnePlus devices also. May be it's implemented that way I guess.
mydragoon said:
and to kick things off, my own list of suggestions:
1. customisable notification lights -- whether to turn on notification LED for charging, type of colour for different events, etc...
2. separate volume for notification
3. remove the CD-Drive where HiSuite is stored
4. default USB mode does not seem to work. enabled it on Develop options and set MTP as default but still, it goes to charging mode only on my phone
5. option to disable auto beauty mode when using front facing cam. i'm one of those that don't like beauty mode. or at least a settings where we can turn it on/ off as default.
6. option to manually change screen resolution to 1080p or even 720p. right now, it's automatic and comes under power savings options.
7. double-tap to wake
8. improve on smart unlock -- paired with my fitness band but the smart unlock behavior is erratic. sometimes does not work.
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Number 4 - I had the same behavior on my previous device as well. Moto X Play.
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Let's start -
The number of options is settings is huge. It's sort of a mess to find out a particular setting.
The low resolution power saver has no notification about when it lowers the resolution.
The double tap to wake should be there.
Notification light should be customizable.
The volume level through earphones is very low. Also an equalizer is sorely missed.
There is a click noise when pressing the power button. It irks me when the surrounding is silent.
The themes present doesn't change much other than icons and wallpapers. I would like to see themes changing QS panel and settings screen as well.
The charging speed while using the phone is way too low.
The camera quality is good enough but improvement is still desired.
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Regular security updates, enough said.
srvoleti said:
Your list of suggestions is definitely a good start. IMHO, suggestions 1,2,7 are to be given high priority followed by 5,6 and 8. Regarding 3&4 I have observed the same default action on all my previous OnePlus devices also. May be it's implemented that way I guess.
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regarding 3 & 4... i do wonder what is the logic for implementing it this way. anyone can share if there's a good reason to do it this way? plus, the settings in Develop Options to set default USB mode does not seem to over-ride this, making the option in Develop Options useless.
mydragoon said:
regarding 3 & 4... i do wonder what is the logic for implementing it this way. anyone can share if there's a good reason to do it this way? plus, the settings in Develop Options to set default USB mode does not seem to over-ride this, making the option in Develop Options useless.
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Yes, you are coorect. The settings in Developer Options to set default USB mode as MTP does not over-ride this. Don't know why.
K.khiladi said:
Number 4 - I had the same behavior on my previous device as well. Moto X Play.
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Let's start -
The number of options is settings is huge. It's sort of a mess to find out a particular setting.
The low resolution power saver has no notification about when it lowers the resolution.
The double tap to wake should be there.
Notification light should be customizable.
The volume level through earphones is very low. Also an equalizer is sorely missed.
There is a click noise when pressing the power button. It irks me when the surrounding is silent.
The themes present doesn't change much other than icons and wallpapers. I would like to see themes changing QS panel and settings screen as well.
The charging speed while using the phone is way too low.
The camera quality is good enough but improvement is still desired.
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Clicking noise... never noticed that till you pointed it out. i guess this is a hardware thing and unlikely to be fixable. but ya, maybe have those soft/ quiet buttons in future.
mydragoon said:
and to kick things off, my own list of suggestions:
1. customisable notification lights -- whether to turn on notification LED for charging, type of colour for different events, etc...
2. separate volume for notification
3. remove the CD-Drive where HiSuite is stored
4. default USB mode does not seem to work. enabled it on Develop options and set MTP as default but still, it goes to charging mode only on my phone
5. option to disable auto beauty mode when using front facing cam. i'm one of those that don't like beauty mode. or at least a settings where we can turn it on/ off as default.
6. option to manually change screen resolution to 1080p or even 720p. right now, it's automatic and comes under power savings options.
7. double-tap to wake
8. improve on smart unlock -- paired with my fitness band but the smart unlock behavior is erratic. sometimes does not work.
9. that Mobile Data to track usage needs a major improvement -- ability to change data cycle date. not every data cycle starts on 1st of calendar month. mine starts almost mid month, so this Mobile Data thingy is quite useless in tracking and reminding me of usage. should stick to something simple like what Samsung has got.
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One more suggestion.Select network mode individually.i mean select 2g/3g/LTE only mode.Now if we select SIM1 for data,the SIM2 automatically change into 2g/3g mode and vice versa.I need 2g only mode for non-data sim
kakkooran said:
One more suggestion.Select network mode individually.i mean select 2g/3g/LTE only mode.Now if we select SIM1 for data,the SIM2 automatically change into 2g/3g mode and vice versa.I need 2g only mode for non-data sim
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Yeah. That's a bummer too. We cant manually set that.
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+1 for all the suggestions! If these could be managed, it would be a near perfect phone which ticks all the checkboxes.
Also club honor forum needs a vast update. It doesn't allow to post a new post after saying it is getting reviewed and the whole forum is a mess. Nobody knows what forum is for what and there are no separate sections!
just remembered something else... would be nice if the power button's options can be expanded. i mean, perhaps under Develop Options, we have the ability to add more options such as:
* screenshot
* mute (mute using volume button currently needs 2 press -- one to reduce volume to 0 and then another click to enable MUTE)
* airplane mode
aKp1 said:
+1 for all the suggestions! If these could be managed, it would be a near perfect phone which ticks all the checkboxes.
Also club honor forum needs a vast update. It doesn't allow to post a new post after saying it is getting reviewed and the whole forum is a mess. Nobody knows what forum is for what and there are no separate sections!
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i totally agree. first of all, signing up was confusing. first attempt, i ended up signing for HK account. later, i managed to create another based on correct country -- Malaysia. when i joined the club honor forum, i found it messy as well. and... there was no section on honor 8 Pro. i asked 1-2 members/ mods, but never got any reply.
in the end, came back to XDA instead.
For me, there are two major complaints. Fast charging on this device is a real bummer. It charges incredible slow. Also, I don't like the oversaturated, unnatural looking display.
Battery life and camera are just ok. Over all I'm fine with the phone.
In addition to said improvements, they should start working on an update that supports VoLTE over wider providers. Here in India, there was a problem with Jio VoLTE and the now another company (Airtel ) os going to activate it on their Network. So that should be addressed as well. Including low light photography needs improvement
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Also I read in the PDF, about the meet up in Chennai, India where discussions were held for feedback, that a hashtag be created for sharing pictures on Instagram. Can I know what the hashtag is?
pranav_5 said:
In addition to said improvements, they should start working on an update that supports VoLTE over wider providers. Here in India, there was a problem with Jio VoLTE and the now another company (Airtel ) os going to activate it on their Network. So that should be addressed as well. Including low light photography needs improvement
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Also I read in the PDF, about the meet up in Chennai, India where discussions were held for feedback, that a hashtag be created for sharing pictures on Instagram. Can I know what the hashtag is?
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Regarding the volte support on other networks, it's still some months away but as the volte support is present, I guess it will work automatically on other networks also once they support it.
Low light photography. Yes needs to be improved.
Also on continuous usage of camera, it gets unreasonably hot.
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Import HDR to main display on camera app, like a bokeh effect
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Add Autosynchronization to quick settings
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sorry... what do you mean by import HDR to main display? isn't that already done?
also, auto-sync... you disable/ enable it every now and then? or? usually, i set this when i setup my phone -- to determine what needs to be sync-ed and what does not. and then just let it auto-sync...
jak989 said:
For me, there are two major complaints. Fast charging on this device is a real bummer. It charges incredible slow. Also, I don't like the oversaturated, unnatural looking display.
Battery life and camera are just ok. Over all I'm fine with the phone.
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technically, this phone does not have any Quick Charging tech. it's just regular 2A charging. the phone does not come with Huawei's Fast Charging (like on Mate9) or Qualcomm's QC or even like OnePlus's DASH. but still... full charge within 2 hours, i feel... is OK for a phone with big battery and no Quick Charge tech.
as for un-natural looking display. i dunno... i can't really tell. plus, if anything, i'm am AMOLED fan. but... having said that, i thought the phone has got some display calibration that complies to some standards?
updated: there's this DCI-p3... not sure what that means. maybe later i Google it.
was reading the Nokia8 first impression when i got reminded about this camera feature where you can take a photo with both front and back camera together. in Samsung's case, they have done it quite well. would be nice to see this on our phones.
Rommco05 said:
Here implement HDR for quick use
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i see. i get what you mean now. ya, sadly, camera apps don't allow us to customise the menu. I know i can do that with Samsung phones. and on some other phones, they have swipe gestures to toggle between the modes. this one... good idea!
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And here auto sync
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for this... iinm, i've seen this on Samsung phones too. auto sync option. but, i never really understood why ppl need these. you don't want phone to auto-sync? why not?
just thought to highlight this... hopefully we can compile a list of suggestions/ feedback that our lucky fellows in India can share with honor India.