So it seems the Nexus 6 comes with a different hardware for the eMMC and the RAM
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eMMC = embedded Multimedia Card or basically the internal memory
RAM = as most of us know is the memory of the device
I don't have the Nexus 6 yet but these shots i took off two different youtube videos for how to unlock the bootloader and unlike any nexus device before the nexus 6 list the internal hardware with the model and the manufacturer on the bootloader screen
What I'm interested in is the eMMC and as you can see from the pic there is one model comes with eMMC made by Sandisk and the other comes with an eMMC made by Samsung and since the Nexus 6 has an issue with the reading and writing speed of the eMMC, Can you guys check your Nexus 6 which eMMC it come with and let's compare if there is any Difference in performance between SanDisk and Samsung
Very cool. Can't wait to see the speed comparisons.
Mine has Sandisk. 64gb blue in the first batch from Motorola
My SDRAM is Samsung
We should get speed tests up and going for the various types and whether they are encrypted or not.
I bet the 64 are sandisk and the 32 samsung
I have a 64GB variant & my eMMC is neither Samsung nor Sandisk but Hynix. For the DRAM it's Samsung though.
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I bet the 64 are sandisk and the 32 samsung
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Nope.
32GB from ATT here. Sandisk.
I have a 64GB MB from the first shipment of Google Play Store Orders. eMMC is Sandisk, RAM is samsung.
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I bet the 64 are sandisk and the 32 samsung
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In the screens in OP are both 32GB. One is Samsung, the other Sandisk.
I can't see any pattern here it's just random like there is no plan they put whatever available
Ram from Samsung and emmc from SanDisk 32gb midnight blue.
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Ram and eMMC both Samsung (at&t 32gb midnight blue)
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Ram and eMMC both Samsung (at&t 32gb midnight blue)
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Same here.
eMMC: Sandisk (32GB)
RAM: Hynix
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Unencrypted
Read: 264MB/s
Write: 81MB/s
I have a 64 Cloud White from Google Play and both emmc and DRAM are Hynix.
32GB from Sprint. Samsung for both.
eMMC: 64GB Sandisk
DRAM: 3072MB Samsung
Midnight blue direct from Motorola
32 GB Samsung eMMC
Hynix Ram
Blue from Motorola store.
Stock encrypted
66 MB/s sequential read
35 MB/s sequential write
14 mb/s random read
10 MB/s random write.
I am holding out for a stock fix...
64GB MB from moto
eMMC = Sandisk
RAM = Samsung
eMMC: 32GB Samsung
DRAM: 3072MB Samsung
Midnight blue from Sprint
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Hi there. I just bought Galaxy 8gb yesterday. Today i've noticed that in my either computer or in phone settings it showing me only 5.78gb. So where is my 2gb gone? Help please.
Still there. 1+Gb is partitioned for applications. The remaining 5.78Gb something is for your personal storage.
mika34 said:
Hi there. I just bought Galaxy 8gb yesterday. Today i've noticed that in my either computer or in phone settings it showing me only 5.78gb. So where is my 2gb gone? Help please.
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Samsung uses the 2Gb to store the cache of applications. It is formatted in a different filesystem and not supposed to be accesible to the user. Thats why you only see about 6GB.
@kcharng: nice and quick... i like it
Darkstriker said:
Samsung uses the 2Gb to store the cache of applications. It is formatted in a different filesystem and not supposed to be accesible to the user. Thats why you only see about 6GB.
@kcharng: nice and quick... i like it
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Thanks guys.
that is why the 16 GB version is better
16 GB version have the same 2GB partition for applications.
The difference is that you have 14GB left rather than 6GB.
I use to remember on my old old original Palm V almost 10 years back, it only have 2MB and THAT was considered a lot for all your contacts.
Talking about Palm V, I still have it and it is sturdy as rock! I wish Samsung or other manufacturers learned from the past. The curves and the feel of the magnesium alloy is unbeatable.
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that is why the 16 GB version is better
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GSMarena then is incorrectly listing the details:
Internal 8 GB/16GB storage, 512 MB RAM, 2GB ROM
When I read this I assumed 512MB for CPU, 2GB ROM for operating system, 8/16GB for applications and storage.
What your saying is the 2GB ROM is actually a partition of the 8/16GB?
Then is that not false advertisement or am I missing something.
That's not correct either. There is a 2gb rom chip but in order to allow you to install more application (especially things like navigators) samsung moved the cache for the applications off the ROM in order to save space there.
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indeed.
i still have and use my old Palm 650 and 600
i still cook update ROMs to reflash it every now and then to keep it current, and squeeze every little bit of RAM i can out of it, else it runs with a log of lag without enough free RAM
kcharng said:
16 GB version have the same 2GB partition for applications.
The difference is that you have 14GB left rather than 6GB.
I use to remember on my old old original Palm V almost 10 years back, it only have 2MB and THAT was considered a lot for all your contacts.
Talking about Palm V, I still have it and it is sturdy as rock! I wish Samsung or other manufacturers learned from the past. The curves and the feel of the magnesium alloy is unbeatable.
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I have benchmarked the provided Samsung 8GB microSD card with HD Tune and compared with my other Kingstone 8GB microSD cards. The results showed minor difference in Kingston's favor.
In particular I got those marks:
Samsung (DHD):
Minimum Read: 4.9 MB/s
Maximum Read: 6.4 MB/s
Average: 6.1 MB/s
Access Time: 1.54 ms
Kingston:
Minimum Read: 5.1 MB/s
Maximum Read: 6.3 MB/s
Average: 6.2 MB/s
Access Time: 1.14 ms
It seems that Kingston is slidely faster but not that much to change it.
Has anyone used any other brand (i.e.SanDisk) and noticed significant performance difference?
andreasy said:
I have benchmarked the provided Samsung 8GB microSD card with HD Tune and compared with my other Kingstone 8GB microSD cards. The results showed minor difference in Kingston's favor.
In particular I got those marks:
Samsung (DHD):
Minimum Read: 4.9 MB/s
Maximum Read: 6.4 MB/s
Average: 6.1 MB/s
Access Time: 1.54 ms
Kingston:
Minimum Read: 5.1 MB/s
Maximum Read: 6.3 MB/s
Average: 6.2 MB/s
Access Time: 1.14 ms
It seems that Kingston is slidely faster but not that much to change it.
Has anyone used any other brand (i.e.SanDisk) and noticed significant performance difference?
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which test did you tried?
Here is mine, I have a Samsung plus.
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Is this for the same card provided with DHD?
How did you connect your card to your computer?
I used an SD card adapter and a USB card reader because my laptop's card reader is dead. I knew that there will be differences but I am not trying to determine the exact values but rather to compare between different cards based on the same equipment I have here. So your benchmark could be the same as mine if we used the same devices.
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Is this for the same card provided with DHD?
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Nope, It's a Samsung plus class 6 card.
How did you connect your card to your computer?
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The same way you did.
Kalavere said:
Nope, It's a Samsung plus class 6 card.
The same way you did.
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That's very big difference then. Have you performed comparisons before you choose that one or was that pure luck?
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That's very big difference then. Have you performed comparisons before you choose that one or was that pure luck?
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A class six is a class six, the speed differences between the highend SD card makers is negligible I would have thought. I am fine with my card potentially being 0.3Mbps slower than another card.
I'd be interested to see some write speeds here. Because a cards's class is a measure of the minimum write speed allowed, but not a measure of fastest read/write speeds.
I know there are probably threads about this already BUT most people don't know but micro sdhc devices like the EVO 3d and View and EVO 4g LTE are actually fully compatible with Micro sdxc its Microsoft has a patent on the exFAT format used but all Micro sdxc card but all Mico sdxc can be formated to fat32.
Now in real world terms as shown here http://forums.androidcentral.com/htc-evo-3d-accessories/162673-picked-up-64gb-micro-sd-card.html
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all you have to do is insert a 64 gig Micro sdxc card which is selling right now on newegg for 89.99 free shipping click format and now you have 64 gig of external storage on the EVO LTE... It should also be noted that the maximum storage allowed on FAT32 is 2 Terabytes yes TWO TBs how is that for future proof.
this means for 239.99 we could have 80 GB of storage on the device not mentioning the dropbox 25 GB and box 50 GB accounts either
Did you mean to post this in the EVO 4G LTE General forum?
WOW that's some interesting stuff.....BUT I think I'll stick with the 32GB for now, I don't have enough music and stuff to even think about filling a 64GB sdcard...hahaha
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I know there are probably threads about this already BUT most people don't know but micro sdhc devices like the EVO 3d and View and EVO 4g LTE are actually fully compatible with Micro sdxc its Microsoft has a patent on the exFAT format used but all Micro sdxc card but all Mico sdxc can be formated to fat32.
Now in real world terms as shown here http://forums.androidcentral.com/htc-evo-3d-accessories/162673-picked-up-64gb-micro-sd-card.html
all you have to do is insert a 64 gig Micro sdxc card which is selling right now on newegg for 89.99 free shipping click format and now you have 64 gig of external storage on the EVO LTE... It should also be noted that the maximum storage allowed on FAT32 is 2 Terabytes yes TWO TBs how is that for future proof.
this means for 239.99 we could have 80 GB of storage on the device not mentioning the dropbox 25 GB and box 50 GB accounts either
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Thanks a lot - very informative post! Good to know that this device is future-proof!
Nice topic and very helpful informations!
I just bought one! Thanks for this information!
Side note:
I wasn't able to find them on newegg.com for 79.99, but bestbuy.com has them for this price as well. After taxes the total came out to be 85.79 with free shipping.
your welcomed Stumbled unto this info too i understand why companies do not advertise this because they actually have to pay Microsoft to use the exFAT format, which i do understand might possible better than FAT32 but then we have FAT 32 devices. its just wrong to try to limit hardware capabilities and growth due to software and legal patents. But as we all know MICROSOFT is very notorious for doing just that and have been doing that for decades
nice
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I wasn't able to find them on newegg.com for 79.99, but bestbuy.com has them for this price as well. After taxes the total came out to be 85.79 with free shipping.[/QUOTE]
fond one from best buy 79.99 free shipping
alsoi giving the rapid price drop i would have to say that a 128 GB might just be around the corner
These two cards have higher speeds. Do they improve the performance of the Note 4 and Note Edge?
At the moment, I am considering to get the Extreme Plus 64GB.
i
petercohen said:
These two cards have higher speeds. Do they improve the performance of the Note 4 and Note Edge?
At the moment, I am considering to get the Extreme Plus 64GB.
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NO
no ext memory will improve performance but they can work more efficient. means not to reduce performance
because real performance of phones for Read/Write op is on Internal >> and there s no micro-sd card with IO speed of internal memories.
and Yes they support this micro-sd cards and all microSDHC + microSDXC ( UHS-I/ UHS-II )
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Yes if you often read/write on external sdcard like me: pics, videos, Rom, Docs ... all store on ExtSDcard
No for gerneral apps/games
anybody know when they will have a 128 gb micro sdcard extreme?
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anybody know when they will have a 128 gb micro sdcard extreme?
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Pretty sure they already do
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Pretty sure they already do
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Really? I couldn't find
no extreme yet, just the ultra. no word yet. Probably be a months, at least. The good news, Scandisk is making a big push to get bigger cards to the market before anyone else. They just announced, maybe released, at 512GB SD card.
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no extreme yet, just the ultra. no word yet. Probably be a months, at least. The good news, Scandisk is making a big push to get bigger cards to the market before anyone else. They just announced, maybe released, at 512GB SD card.
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Now that is awesome!
Samsung list the Note 4 having SDHC/SHD SD Card microSD (up to 128GB) on the web site now.
http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones/SM-N910TZKETMB
I'm avoiding sandisk SD cards from now on. Both ours for our s3 phones have had to be replaced under lifetime warranty, and on the gopro, the sandisk cards can't keep up with 2k and 4k video recording speeds, so they throttled them with firmware detection. Other SD brands did not have the issue, only sandisk.
Really hope for UHS-1 support for the exynos version.
Any chance of supporting UHS-1 U3? This new SanDisk Extreme Pro 64Gb 95MB/s read and up to 90MB/s write speed looks awesome, or just too much/no support?
The beast: http://www.sandisk.com/products/memory-cards/microsd/extremepro-uhs-i/?capacity=64GB
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As marshmallow is getting on our m9 we have a new function were we can make our micro SD-Card formatted as internal memory, a fast micro SD becomes more and more important in this thread I want to collect a couple of benchmarks made on our m9 with the A1 SD Bench app made by me and the community additions are apriciated
FYI the M9 has UHS-II support means it has a very fast sd card read/write speed
Hope that we find a good amount of benchmarks ?
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Benchmark of internal SD and an Lexar Professional 1000x UHS- 2 128 GB
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/... micro sdxc&qid=1451561228&ref_=sr_1_1&sr=8-1
64GB micro SDXC £19.99p Amazon
External SD - Read 38.15MB/s - Write 12.08MB/s
Internal Memory - Read 178.78MB/s - Write 96.73MB/s
There is quite a difference between the two.
Program used A1 SD Bench, chose internal memory and SD Card (RED)
Screen grab of test.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/SanDisk-And...d=1451561608&sr=8-1&keywords=128GB+micro+sdxc
128GB £46.64p Amazon
External SD - Read 38.28MB/s - Write 11.69MB/s
Performed on a galaxy S5
Same program as above.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/SanDisk-Ext...d=1451564645&sr=8-7&keywords=32GB+extreme+pro
Sandisk Extreme Pro 32GB... fairly cheap. Read 83.78MB/s Write 73.95MB/s
SanDisk ultra 64GB micro SDXC
43.29 read 14.53 write
Samsung 64GB EVO Class 10 Micro SDXC Memory Card with Adapter (MB-MP64DA/AM)
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My Cards
SanDisk Ultra 128 GB
Samsung Pro 32 GB
Samsung PRO 64 GB UHS-I Grade 1 Class 10 (MB-MG64D)
I had a gift card to burn at frys.
Samsung EVO 128GB Class 10 UHS-1 microSDHC Card with 48MB/s Transfer Speed
On Lollipop
External SD Read 66.22 / Write 19.81
Lexar 128GB 633x microSD (Amazon)
Could be interesting to mention whether it's:
Lollipop vs Marshmallow
If M, formatted as "portable" or as "internal" storage
Cheers
Sandisk Extreme 64GB micro sdxc UHS-1
https://www.cdw.com/shop/products/S...emory-card-64-GB-microSDXC-UHS-I/3260307.aspx
65/46 MB