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[q] firmware udates on rooted stock roms?

I know you can update you PRL & PROFILE. But is it ok to update firmware on a stock rom that is rooted?

Depends. Usually, you'll lose root if you do so. That was the case with the MDL firmware, for example. I'd just come over here when you start to get update messages and see what folks have to say that have installed it. If you want to keep root, you'll have to wait for some friendly dev to come up with a version that gives you the update w/o loosing root. Doesn't seem to take long at all for that happen on the Samsung Galaxy line.

jejb said:
Depends. Usually, you'll lose root if you do so. That was the case with the MDL firmware, for example. I'd just come over here when you start to get update messages and see what folks have to say that have installed it. If you want to keep root, you'll have to wait for some friendly dev to come up with a version that gives you the update w/o loosing root. Doesn't seem to take long at all for that happen on the Samsung Galaxy line.
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MDL is the current right?

Yes, MDL is the latest and greatest.

[Q] on My girls S4

My lady has been locked up for 8 months and is due out Thursday. Her S4 is Safestrap rooted MF3 running stock rim. version (she missed having the loki bootloader by minutes n took the update). Anyway she gets out on Thursday n her phone has been in her property this whole time.
What do I need to do when she gets out? Anything I need to not do or not accept ? Of course there are a ton of Google updates going on n I know to accept those. Will at&t send the KK update to her phone or because of root it won't send for it? If she does get the KK update, by chance, do Y's lol have a root method (only reason for that question is my S4 is a VZW with lokified bootloader but I have seen issues we are having with out KK update) any help n all help is much appreciated
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FordNate said:
My lady has been locked up for 8 months and is due out Thursday. Her S4 is Safestrap rooted MF3 running stock rim. version (she missed having the loki bootloader by minutes n took the update). Anyway she gets out on Thursday n her phone has been in her property this whole time.
What do I need to do when she gets out? Anything I need to not do or not accept ? Of course there are a ton of Google updates going on n I know to accept those. Will at&t send the KK update to her phone or because of root it won't send for it? If she does get the KK update, by chance, do Y's lol have a root method (only reason for that question is my S4 is a VZW with lokified bootloader but I have seen issues we are having with out KK update) any help n all help is much appreciated
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If her phone says Custom when booting, the KitKat update will fail to finish and will not be installed.
As for whether she can root the KitKat update, she can't if she goes full stock and then updates to NC1 (I think). However since she's still on MF3 I believe she can get a rooted 4.4.2 ROM, however there's a very high chance it'll clear your data. This may be of assistance, however I'm not sure if it'll work or not so don't try it until someone who knows more than I do says it's clear to try it or not.

Update Broke Root

Ok I did a very stupid thing this morning. I have had my S5 for a week and decided I was ready to root. I had already done lots of research and watched some YouTube videos on it.
Of course the process is a breeze for anyone that is familiar with rooting in general. I attained root and was getting ready to look at the various ROMS.
While poking around the phone I noticed there was an update that could be applied. Now I know you are not suppose to take updates after rooting but I really hate not being on the most current version. So I started searching furiously to see if this update would break root. After 20 minutes or so I found nothing so I took the update. Surprise surprise it BROKE ROOT and Towel root won't fix it. I am devastated. ...is there nothing I can do.?
If anyone can provide hope I would appreciate it.
Now that I have plenty of time to look I have seen a couple of entries that says it did break root on some but not all phones. The update didn't even change the 4.4.2 status. Basically I have royally screwed up so if anyone else see that update.....BEWARE.!

You should be able to downgrade to a prior software version of the rom you have installed like NE2. I downgraded from NG2 to NE2 without tripping KNOX or any other issues. Flash the prior version of your firmware with Odin, untick Auto Reboot before the flash, after the flash pull the battery, wait 20 seconds, go into recovery and do a data factory reset. The phone should boot normal now. After you setup the phone, root with Towelroot and install superSU and SU Pro and enable root survival mode. This should keep the device rooted after an OTA or flash the new updated rom with Mobile Odin Pro and enable Evverroot and the other 2 options which should also keep the phone rooted. Both ways will not trip KNOX.

Thanks for the reply....did you do that with a Verizon phone? If so any links to the file? I've used Odin in the past I must admit it scares the crap out of me but if that is my only option I will do it. Also was that with a non development phone? It's like a dang minefield....lol.

GigaRack said:
Thanks for the reply....did you do that with a Verizon phone? If so any links to the file? I've used Odin in the past I must admit it scares the crap out of me but if that is my only option I will do it. Also was that with a non development phone? It's like a dang minefield....lol.
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No, did it with an unbranded Dutch phone, its a non development phone with a unlocked bootloader. I don`t have xperience with US phones so better read up in the Verizon section before you do anything. Good luck mate

Ok I found the link...... http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-galaxy-s5/general/how-to-root-g900vvru1ane9-t2836201

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Thanks very much. I have it rooted and on the latest version. Odin is not so scarey now....lol.

GigaRack said:
Odin is not so scarey now....lol.
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Odin is never scary if you know how to use it
PS.: thank god for carriers that don't care about knox being 0x1

[Q] Need help with updating to recent version after ****ing up update while rooted.

A week ago, I got a prompt to update to the most recent Android version. I have a Galaxy S5 SM-G900F. Had rooted it with Towelroot in July and everything was smooth, haven't done any major changes other than SuperSU and titanium. After I ok'ed the software update, it got to like 30% or something until it crashed and rebooted. Everything seems fine, just the update didn't get installed, I'm still 4.4.2. When trying to update it, it says that my operating system has been modified in an unauthorized way (towelroot) and that I should try to download updates using Kies.
So I looked a bit for solutions, I checked the SuperSU survival mode AFTER failing the update, and now my question is, what is the best way to update whilst retaining root and all my settings, in the fastest way? Or just what is the best solution to update? Don't really want to download Kies just for this. Sorry for noobness. Thanks for any help, appreciate it.

tempest22 said:
just what is the best solution to update?
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The best thing to do is always search first. Most questions have been asked and answered before, so a quick search gives you an immediate answer, not to mention a larger number of replies and accumulated wisdom. And if any aspect remains unanswered, you are in a much better position to pose informed questions.
Of course that is a pipe dream, because most people aren't sensible enough to take 30 seconds to search, expecting someone else to gift wrap the answer for them.
Anyway, the best approach is arguably to never be first to accept an update. Instead wait a few days and then see what early adopters are posting about any given new update. Every update is different and that will quickly tell you if there are any issues regarding root and inevitably how to deal with them. OTA updates will usually break root and often fail to install properly as well. It's better to wait and install an update via Odin IMO.
Some apps, notably mobile odin pro and super su pro have root survival modes that will attempt to regain root after an update. But there are no guarantees and you should not rely upon them. Instead treat it as an emergency plan B.
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Did you change from dalvik to ART. I got the same message after changing to art and going back to dalvik sorted it for me.
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fffft said:
The best thing to do is always search first. Most questions have been asked and answered before, so a quick search gives you an immediate answer, not to mention a larger number of replies and accumulated wisdom. And if any aspect remains unanswered, you are in a much better position to pose informed questions.
Of course that is a pipe dream, because most people aren't sensible enough to take 30 seconds to search, expecting someone else to gift wrap the answer for them.
Anyway, the best approach is arguably to never be first to accept an update. Instead wait a few days and then see what early adopters are posting about any given new update. Every update is different and that will quickly tell you if there are any issues regarding root and inevitably how to deal with them. OTA updates will usually break root and often fail to install properly as well. It's better to wait and install an update via Odin IMO.
Some apps, notably mobile odin pro and super su pro have root survival modes that will attempt to regain root after an update. But there are no guarantees and you should not rely upon them. Instead treat it as an emergency plan B.
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Thanks for the answer. I'm not technically well versed, I just know that this forum is the best for people like me who need advice from the pros lol. I would rather just have the most recent update because I don't want any vulnerabilities or whatever. I haven't ever used Odin, just Towelroot and done. I don't use any roms, just factory plus root through towelroot and supersu, that's it for now. So again, how would a noob like me go about safely getting an update and having the reassurance that Towelroot will either still be there, or if an unroot is necessary, that towelroot will be able to root again? Kies? Also, is an actual OTA update still possible (I'm getting that error message) or is a computer update the only thing left?

Prof Peach said:
Did you change from dalvik to ART. I got the same message after changing to art and going back to dalvik sorted it for me.
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nope, just towelrooted it 2 months ago and that's that. no roms. still have 4.2.2, wanted to update. I got a failed update a week ago when I got an OTA update prompt. That failed, root is stil there, S5 working fine but can't do OTA since it gives me that error message. What could I do to safely get the most recent software update but retain root, OR be able to update and reroot again with towelroot if I need to unroot to update...

can anybody help please?

Why not find a stock rooted rom for your model and flash it?

tempest22 said:
nope, just towelrooted it 2 months ago and that's that. no roms. still have 4.2.2, wanted to update. I got a failed update a week ago when I got an OTA update prompt. That failed, root is stil there, S5 working fine but can't do OTA since it gives me that error message. What could I do to safely get the most recent software update but retain root, OR be able to update and reroot again with towelroot if I need to unroot to update...
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Just downgrade to an older rom like NE2 and root with Towelroot, after that flash the new rom with Mobile Odin Pro and keep root with Everroot and the other 2 options enabled. Or flash an older kernel on your updated rom now and reroot with TR, look here for how to http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s5/general/how-to-root-triggering-knox-2nd-method-t2843044. Or as posted above a pre-rooted stock rom like Alexander rom.

metalfan78 said:
Why not find a stock rooted rom for your model and flash it?
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I'm sorry but I really don't know what that means in this context for an update. I used Towelroot 2 months ago to root and still haven't gotten myself anx root aps or mods (but was planning on it right when the update failed). Is there not a simple way to make this update work while either 1)unrooting, then updating then rerooting with Towelroot, or 2) updating whilst retaining Towelroot?

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gee2012 said:
Just downgrade to an older rom like NE2 and root with Towelroot, after that flash the new rom with Mobile Odin Pro and keep root with Everroot and the other 2 options enabled. Or flash an older kernel on your updated rom now and reroot with TR, look here for how to http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s5/general/how-to-root-triggering-knox-2nd-method-t2843044. Or as posted above a pre-rooted stock rom like Alexander rom.
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I don't think you understand what I'm asking for, or I'm just way too much of a noob, probably that. but I'd just like to update to the most recent Android version. I'm 4.4.2, got an update prompt 1 week ago, have an SM-G900F, and have Towelrooted 2 months ago. All I want is to update. How can I do this, since I'm getting the failure message that it can't be updated due to my device being modified. If I unroot with supersu, then update, then (if the update works) try to Towelroot again, will Towelroot work? Or does the new update **** with it? Or an I update with Samsung Kies, while retaining Towelroot? Ahhhh I'm so sorry for this stupid question but I really don't know

no halp?

I'm really sorry for bumping this again, but I just honestly have no clue what to do to get it updated and either retain Towelroot or be able to install it again after updating. somebody help a noob out please.

my samsung galaxy s5 , it is rooted but I would like to upgrade, I can't do the OTA upgrade so I should proceed with Kies , I would like to know whether I have to unroot my phone (how do I do that? via kies? it does not matter if it'll lose the root, I just want to be sure I would still be able to use my samsung without creating any damage)or just directly proceed with the upgrade,furthermore, my phone was a sumsung galaxy s5 tmobile but I managed to unlock it in order to use it with other carriers, if I install the original firmware and then upgrade to the newest version, can I still use it with other carriers or will return locked? thank you in advance for your help

[Q] Rooted but Stock

Hi Everyone,
I have the G2, and wanted to get rid of annoying ads. So I rooted(that's it, stock, no recovery). I only rooted it. Everything is still stock. The only thing I added was superuser and busybox. I didn't install a recovery like Twrp or cm. I hate ads, that is the only reason I rooted. I didn't delete any bloatware, only froze with Titanium. Essentially everything is factory, except it is rooted.
Question: Will I be able to take the lollipop OTA?
If so, Will I lose root?
If I cant receive OTA, what do I need to do to receive ota update?
Thanks a bunch

jimecv88 said:
Question: Will I be able to take the lollipop OTA?
If so, Will I lose root?
If I cant receive OTA, what do I need to do to receive ota update?
Thanks a bunch
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Probably
Probably not
Flash stock .kdz
Well we are not likely to see a LP update in the near future, so no worries. As long as you haven't touched any system apps or installed custom recovery you will most likely be fine taking any OTA.

I think that OTA updates aint posible on some devices, like example mine which is 20b. I can only update via pc and lg update tool, but im kinda scared i wont brick my phone since i rooted it on stock 20b with towelroot.
Should i do the update? Can sh*t happen? I am looking over the forums atm, but wanted to ask.
Also im searching for a recovery install way on d802 with rooted 20b stock firmware.
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If you are Stock you can still take the OTA if/when it comes out. Root has never been an issue upgrading with an OTA.
What makes the process fail is what you do with root, like changing DPI, changing the WiFi Tether App, physically deleting bloat (verse disabling it).
I'm not sure if you can root Lollipop yet. I've heard they are disabling the ability to root lollipop without a custom kernel.

player911 said:
If you are Stock you can still take the OTA if/when it comes out. Root has never been an issue upgrading with an OTA.
What makes the process fail is what you do with root, like changing DPI, changing the WiFi Tether App, physically deleting bloat (verse disabling it).
I'm not sure if you can root Lollipop yet. I've heard they are disabling the ability to root lollipop without a custom kernel.
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Thanks,
I did few changes with xposed and g2 tweakbox, you think that could cause problems for the update?
I think i should really update 20b stock..
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I wouldn't risk it, I've read a lot about people bricking their phone because they thought they could just uninstall xposed, uproot and update